SAGE HANA & GVB, is this love or what? SAGE raises some key points and mainly the subscribers, very interesting debate; I added to it to try to understand GVB's contention given SAGE's interesting
question; we have to think deeper; SAGE is questioning the theory GVB has had given how things have played out, rightly! the unvaxxed have NOT fallen to vaxxed YET, novice as I am, what does GVB mean?
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Geert Vanden Bossche, June, 2021: "As a result of that (mass vaccinations)we are going to see increased morbidity in non-vaccinated people."
::raises hand slowly::puts hand back down::Nothing matters. Nothing matters.
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The past was alterable.
Move at the speed of science.
Just go to about the 3:00 mark if you have low tolerance for STEMSPEAK.
Ride that magical wave all the way to the end…the last :40.
This sure sounds different than the 2022 pronouncements that the “non-vaccinated” were going to be okay against the…VIRULENT VARIANTS or INFECTIOUS PRESSURE or…
::stares out window::
Note: If you are sick of the Notorious GVB posts just go on to your local SuePfizer watering hole and have a cold one.
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Here is my response to SAGE’s subscriber as I too try to understand what is happening and remember, I am no immunologist or vaccinologist…I am a mere mortal simpleton idiot at times, imperfect moron trying to uderstand, here is my input and it is only an opinion:
‘I am trying to make sense, I think what GVB is trying to say is that if the vaccine would stop then the infectious pressure would decrease since the vaccine is driving the vaccinated to become more infected and be a pool for virus...so no vaccine means no circulating virus, less infectious pressure...so if the vaccine does NOT stop, then there is continual variants and thus increased infection of the vaccinated and thus increased infection circulating, and I think what he is saying is that the innate immune system, the natural innate immune system can ordinarily handle normal or even some heavier poking with increased load but if the load is TOO much, and he does not quantify, but if the load is too much, the innate immune system which would normally clear out virus would not be able to...would be overwhelmed. He is saying that the unvaccinated relies on their innate immune system so if the vaccinated is getting infected and spreading virus, they may be causing too much virus to be in the environment and the innate immune system of the unvaccinated would be overwhelmed and they could become severely ill...that is what he is saying yet as SAGE says, hands up, hands down, stares out the window for it is not happening...in you, me, we unvaccinated...so also, again, I am a novice, I am trying to make sense like you, could the explanation be that we have enough natural immunity from the initial legacy Wuhan (us unvaccinated who have been exposed initially and repeatedly and recovered with robust immunity) that we can face any sub-variant mutant regardless of the number of mutations on the spike antigen...maybe gives us an immune re-challenge but we can still handle it??? maybe too this was circulating years before (my theory has been that COVID whatever it is/was, was let loose years earlier intentional or not, DoD or not, whatever, but let loose and was always circulating at a benign level, always across years captured as common cold or flu illness or death, and really had we done NOTHING, nothing, no one would have noticed this pathogen or COVID etc., in fact, we used over-cycled PCR to manufacture a fraud pandemic that was not a pandemic, we 'detected' something that was always circulating, it was all a fraud) and we were entirely immune years before and even when legacy Wuhan came, we were immune...as simple as that. remember Diamond Princess, early 2020, a virus burning through a closed ship, burnt out at 19%...closed ship with legacy Wuhan, 7 out of 3700 died....most infectious and lethal legacy yet of not consequence and the ship was of older persons, I think median age near 70......we had cabins with spouses where husband died reported, with hot infectious COVID, wife did not get infected or die...he was dead in same cabin under lockdown, same small cabin...how is that possible unless her immune system had seen it or similar prior??? maybe he had underlying medical conditions etc....remember, common colds or yearly flu or any other respiratory virus will take 80-85 year olds who have medical issues...happens each day...anyway by 2 cents, love SAGE's work...love it!’
the people keep getting the shots and are then turning around being the super spreaders
I think that people who still believe that vaccination is good, especially those who have long careers in it, are going to try to defend their paradigm. But I also think that people whose careers are in vaccinology have perhaps a dawning realization that vaccines (as we knew them) confer some type of artificial, temporary reaction that seems to be protective (but actually does harm, as it turns out, but would rather not talk about that part), SO......
here we are, unvaccinated, and not dying after all. But we certainly are or can be affected by the immunity of the herd. And that immunity has been badly damaged.
So here we are. It is inverted; instead of "take this shot to protect grandma," it's more like grandma's shot damaged the immunity of the herd, which harms us, potentially and possibly eventually.