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Dr. Paul Alexander's avatar

I could build or take any regression model simple or multi variable or logistic or the like, and build it, and use input parameters predictor variables that can derive me any output I seek as the dependent variable. I can manipulate it at will and make it say what I want. this is the fraud of global warming and most academic research that is published.

Murray J Allatt's avatar

This information about the ice core CO2 drag has been around a long time. See for example ‘The Great Climate Swindle’ from 2007.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1020027/

Amazing. I thought this film alone would have been enough almost 20 years ago to shaft the climate cult. But here we are in 2025 and the cult is still going strong.

Dr. Paul Alexander's avatar

vostok cleared up many issues, we knew it was a hoax, real data, not man made models

Patricia's avatar

You would think but I bet a huge percentage of the population have never seen that film and as long as most of the people don't know the scam continues

Murray J Allatt's avatar

The above link is the movie’The Great Global Warming Swindle’ circa 2007. Reference to Vostok ice core about 20 minutes in.

Gerald Williams's avatar

Fairly complicated, but basically it shows that the current Climate models are over simplistic and thus wrong, even if not intentionally wrong.

I have been calling for ending the bogus hoax term "Climate Change" and going back to "Global Warming". The Climate is ALWAYS changing. Yes there is Global Warming, but its end effect is exaggerated as this article proves, and there is little we can do to change it.

Also, not mentioned in the article, its known that Western Antarctica has major underground volcanic activity, resulting is ice melting. Meanwhile, Eastern Antarctica, where this current research was taken, has an INCREASE in ice. That alone debunks the concern of Global Warming.

PS: I didn't spend the time to consult Grok, but I'm sure I can get him to admit to what I've said, if I spent enough time.

Milton Farrow's avatar

IT WAS NOTHING BIUT A FUCKING GLOBALIST MONEY MSKING SCEME TO SELL CARBON

FUITURES- BY THAT FUCKING HYPOCFRITE AL GORE--

edward's avatar

Two phonies/fakes in the persons of Al Whore, a political hack and ignoramus, and Pukizuki a mere geneticist, who also is a fake expert on globaloney, started their nonsense decades ago and led the ignorant masses on a wild goose chase that has led to a dead end.

It was a farce from the start and still is with more idiots like Greta Stunnedburg in the picture confusing her supporters to no end. All it was and is turned out to be a scam and these fools plus others need to be arrested and tried for fraud.

Janet Hofbauer's avatar

The carbon has been demonized just like cholesterol. The truth is they just want to carbon tax you to death. You only get so many credits per day after that you cant buy meat eggs etc. You didn't get the shot so the carbon credit is taken away. In California right now they want to tax everyone's electric bill pay for recent wild fires having to keep paying for taxes without our representatives serving the people who voted for them. The true villain is nitrogen from left over bomb making WWII its used to destroy our soil and crops with the RoundUp Ready Crops nutrient void of any minerals that we used to have say 50 years ago. What was in the soil went into our gut microbiome immunity now that has been destroyed leaky gut and leaky brain dysbiosis autoimmune issues with food particles being triggered by the food particles that should not be in the blood steam. Nitrogen and chemicals sprayed in multiple layers of the planet all of this has been created by mankind after Kennedy was murdered with Jackie in the convertible in 1968 he wanted control over the weather way back then and still does today each country is doing their thing in attempt to bring the rest of the world down China with their sun replacement and many other strange things. Just because you pollute it and want to leave it behind doesn't mean the same fate will occur somewhere else.

Patricia's avatar

It all looks like a fraud to me - starting with the measurements. Many of the weather stations are on

sites now encased in tarmac and concrete which were once simply fields and where do they measure CO2 - turns out one the longest running stations is on top of the Hawaiian volcano Mauna Loa!

Froggie's avatar

I wonder why at 150000 years the CO2 lags the temperature fall but between then and 200000 years the CO2 appears to lead the temperature rise. Just asking?

Curmudgeon's avatar

I think that the late Dr. Tim Ball has, once again, been proven correct. When he was sued, in a Canadian court, by Michael Mann for saying Mann belonged in the state pen, not at Penn State, Mann didn't realize that his usual legal tactics wouldn't work in Canada. Ball immediately provided all of his data on climate, going back centuries, and got the court to order Mann to turn over his, for discovery. Mann thought he could hide, and after ignoring several court orders to produce the data, had his case dismissed. While Ball received costs, he was essentially bankrupted. Ball was saying and writing, over 40 years ago, that the climate change narrative was the hoax of the 20th century. Personally, I'm happy about climate change. If it hadn't happened, I'd be living under a glacier or at the bottom of the massive lake that covered half of North America.

Jason's avatar

I would like to know if the CO2 has a calming effect.

Just look at the chart, one could say the temperature is lowering when CO2 gets high.

Maurice Lavigne's avatar

The sun is the main driver of our atmospheric conditions. It warms oceans which release hot vapor phases of water which heat the atmosphere. Warming ocean water also releases CO2. As the ice cores show, the heat comes first.

Sharon sivori's avatar

Years ago when climate change lies were first published, they were challenged as a proven false at the foundation of their work! Then whole climate change data disappeared, but was taken as factual by the people that wanted it to be true. But, it was all based on false and untrue foundation, therefore it was all a lie!