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Lisa Reisman's avatar

“Both sides have innocents” Incorrect! Palestinians in Israeli jails are criminals. Only Hamas has innocents. No conflating or equivocation please! It destroys your messaging!

nickij's avatar

Criminals? There are vids available showing IDF seizing Palestinian school children off the street and, it appears, hauling the kids away for no reason other than they could according to Israeli policy. Other Israeli policies: Apartheid, Expansionism, Police State Surveillance, and Collective Punishment.

Cattexas's avatar

It wasn’t innocent Palestinians exchanged!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Adam Frank's avatar

Because Netanyahu's Pro-Settler Israel sees all Palestinians as "human animals" and their lives are of almost no value.

Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Or perhaps because Israelis value the life of their people more than Hamas who use Palestinian women and children as human shields?

See how your inflammatory statement can be turned around?

DocHollywood's avatar

Your inflammatory statements can be turned around too - with evidence:

“Border Police officers use members of Jenin family as human shields”

“Israeli soldiers use a Palestinian man, ‘Abd a-Rahim Gheith, as human shield during clashes in Jericho”

“Border Police raid home of Beit Ummar resident, order her to stand by them on roof while stones were thrown at them, and force her to carry military equipment”

“In midnight raids, Israeli soldiers enter homes in Nablus District, wake families, and use young men as human shields”

https://www.btselem.org/topic/human_shields

“Palestinian children tortured, used as shields by Israel: U.N.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-palestinian-israel-children-idUSBRE95J0FR20130620/

Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Why wouldn't an Israeli soldier use a Palestinian as a human shield? Wouldn't that stop Hamas from killing both of them? I think we both know the answer to that. Hamas puts no value on Palestinian lives.

DocHollywood's avatar

Using humans shields is evil. You can’t justify it.

Kathleen Taylor's avatar

You seem to be coming to an understanding of how evil the Hamas Palestinians whom you support are.

Adam Frank's avatar

The emerging news is that Israeli government has a policy known as the Hannibal Doctrine, which is that it's better to sacrifice innocent Israeli's, than have them taken as hostages. This may have come into play regarding the music concert victims possibly having met their demise at the hands of an IDF Apache gunship. Their are very bad actors on both sides including Hamas and The rabid bloodthirsty Likudniks behind BiBi. Can we agree that the innocent Christian and Muslim children of Gaza have no collective responsibility for Hamas, and therefore do not deserve collective punishment?

Adam Frank's avatar

Why did Israel take female and teenage hostages in the first place?

Jennifer Majewski Williams's avatar

That’s what I was thinking. Anyone have an answer to that?

nickij's avatar

Are the Israelis allowing entry of food, water, and medical relief for Gazans during this ceasefire, or are they continuing to hold Gazans like hostages? Were Israeli hostages starved in captivity like Gazans are being starved for over 7 weeks? Just wondering....

CindyArizona's avatar

They weren't Israeli. All the hostages released today were Thai.

Kathleen Taylor's avatar

I believe I read 14 Thai "workers"(?) were released first in a separate negotiation. 13 Israeli women and children were to be released next.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

On what basis do you make this outrageous claim?

BMeowDawg's avatar

Americans are still held hostage. None are coming home this weekend. We have a weak President who refuses to condition our aid to Israel on attention to the American hostages, in part because Team Biden does not care at all about Americans. And if American hostages were released, the level of concern in America would, to some extent, whether right or wrong, necessarily decline, and hence perhaps impair the flow of money or carte blanche support to Israel. Glenn Greenwald has covered these points on this show System Update.