really unhealthy! if it were the common cold, it could cause damage, just look on, & with the school closures & lockdowns, now we created more obesity & obesity was the super loaded COVID risk factor
“Wokeness” is part of the equation. Look around the big stores at the fat mannequins. They want to normalize obesity. Just add that to all the other deranged identities we are supposed to accept.
In the name of (a thoroughly twisted and perverse, hijacked and distorted) "equality," welcome and wokedly embrace the present abandonment of standards and, instead, the actual promotion of the unequivocally evil and hardly democratic institution and practice of "equity".
You see, the impartial, equal application of standards -- like that of the law, there are no better iterations of equality -- is, the Woke narrative runs, implicitly racist because, while the privileged numbers might tend to comply (and in this case, eat, look, feel and live right), the disenfranchised/needy/un- derserved might tend not to do so, leading to such "disparate impact" of standards. The only obvious and available solution? Says the Left: Throw out the standards (ie, the non-anti-racism basis, or cause) -- with the rules for healthy habits and living (ie, the unequally distributed "fruit" of the aforementioned, poisoned, racist vine); and so, the baby with the bathwater. Right, and that's how it's done. By the Left.
Not at all to satisfy classical, rather than Woke, justice -- who statued, iconized Lady remains blinded: impartial to the core.
Thus, I demur, and demand -- rather than command that I be given -- a break.
The peace or remedy I seek is already, innately God-given and co-exists with my being, my life. I simply want restored what had been unlawfully and immorally taken from my existence.
At my very active and quite tall son's annual physical, his (overweight) pediatrician suggested my son was underweight. When I mentioned I had noticed his weight was right in the middle of the desired range for BMI (body mass index), he looked it up and agreed with me.
A board-certified doctor should have been able to recognize that my son's weight was normal and healthy. I'm afraid he doesn't see very many slim patients (or people in general) causing him to have an unrealistic sense of "underweight."
I'd say he's evidently statistically biased. I wonder, how so? and shouldn't such medical bias be 1) self-recognized, 2) emotionally self-managed, and 3) adjusted in his observations and assessments of any of his patients' individual physical condition and overall health and well-being?
If any or all of the foregoing points of professional, particularly ethical medical conduct are so casually disregarded on the doctor's part clinically, is it, by all relevant measures, professionally excusable?
(Maybe in this case, since he had the courage to put his ego aside, and the good sense to pause, look it up, and, based on the published data and not his own clinical conditioning and likely naturally accommodating (read: kiss-up) manner with other, protective, but probably as a poor model for their children, also overweight-to-obese, emotionally defensive moms, find your son -- anomalously! -- quite normal -- by the better, prescribed, and not the population-based, empirically worse numbers.)
Assuming, for the sake of argument, it's not professionally excusable, your nice characterization presented is, most essentially, then, as to substance, I mean, well done, Mom!
(I believe it doesn't hurt to compliment you, anyway -- despite what you probably already know first-hand: that you're quite aware of your greatness as a mom. Good role-modeling is usually complex and multi-faceted, I've found.)
Dr Paul, I don’t actually believe that age and obesity were truly involved in causing mortality from Covid. It was that hospitals and care homes were encouraged to kill the elderly and overweight. No one cares if they die, is the excuse that these homicidal doctors used!!
I’m a physician also and in Mississippi where we have been the unhealthiest state 50/50 in health for decades now. It’s the diet which leads to inactivity i which leads to diabetes and vascular damage and cardiovascular disease . The diets are terrible creating fat that is inflammatory and a huge direct risk factor for over 17 cancers ( breast and uterine in particular in my field ). What changed was the removal of fat in the diet and the replacement with curb syrup and salt to maintain flavor in food . We also have the opposite of anorexia now as we have people who have no idea that their current weight of being 70-250 lbs overweight is a factor on their infertility . It boggles my mind how people can’t see that at 26 years old and 398 lbs ( my infertility pt last week ) that even were o to get her to menstruate , ovulate regularly ( she hasn’t in 2 years , that her pregnancy would be super complicated . They don’t see it as a factor at all . And …. Are not motivated whatsoever to change it at all … being about 200 lbs too late to have made an effective and doable change . Roundup is a chelating agent and coats our food leading to selenium deficiencies and thyroid problems as well as our epidemic of low D3 which is essential for macrophages and monocytes to do their job . It’s low almost 90 percent of the time on panels I check . It’s also the disgusting infiltration of Sara Lee , Coke , Kelloggs etc being on government panels to establish our food pyramids …. With the latest insanity showing a sugary rice crispy treat as a better snack than raw almonds …. What’s a dumb parent to think these days on diet ? Not much. Not much thought at all
I don't know if those people don't know that weight is not a factor in their infertility or if they just don't care, only you would know for sure (and then) I know diabetes and weight played a part in my lack of oomph in that department. Following my amputation, I think it improved circulation to the rest of my body and gave me back some of my mojo, in the words of Austin Powers. I certainly can tell it ebbs and flows at least a bit anecdotally depending on diet.
I imagine it has to grind your gears to see many of us 200 lbs. overweight and very little can be done about it due to thyroid and other issues that crop up. For me, just the thought of all the excess skin and problems surrounding such an eventuality leads to acceptance of my current status.
Others have broached the subject of gastric bypass, but I still don't think it is worth it. A big part of the thing is that I don't want to think about food, and from those who have had the surgery say, is that their mind is preoccupied with it. They have to be painstakingly meticulous about it. Planning what and how much to eat down t o almost the mouthful.
Couple that with the complications and side effects that come with it. and it is not something I look forward to.
I need to get up and running on my prosthetic, and part of the reason is that apparently with a prosthetic, I will burn 70% more calories once I move around than if I have both my legs. I look forward to this.
Yes, the new food guidance is even more ridiculous than the previous ones and shows how compromised our institutions have become.
Wow, thanks for this. I had no idea Roundup stripped selenium. I, in an utterly lay armchair way, during lockdown tracked places where selenium was deficient in soils, where there was high air pollution and where there had been recent outbreaks of anti-biotic resistant bacteria. Quito and Lombardy, I think, had all three. I was unprofessionally just looking for patterns as I knew selenium had been found to mutate viruses toward virulence in a deficient host. I knew this in an internet nonscholarly armchair way however. But I wonder what it portends if they are now pushing, wasn't it Tufts, that said cocoa puffs were better for you than milk and eggs and meat, Roundup soaked foods as healthier? Totally whacked, but maybe not without purpose, since we know they go after vitamin D and zinc and repurposed drugs and nutraceuticals systematically. Here's the abstract on the selenium:
Recently emerged viral infectious diseases (VIDs) include HIV/AIDS, influenzas H5N1 and 2009 H1N1, SARS, and Ebola hemorrhagic fevers. Earlier research determined metabolic oxidative stress in hosts deficient in antioxidant selenium (Se) (<1 μMol Se/L of blood) induces both impaired human host immunocompetence and rapidly mutated benign variants of RNA viruses to virulence. These viral mutations are consistent, rather than stochastic, and long-lived. When Se-deficient virus-infected hosts were supplemented with dietary Se, viral mutation rates diminished and immunocompetence improved. Herein is described the role of micronutrient Se deficiency on the evolution of some contemporary RNA viruses and their subsequent VIDs. Distinguishing cellular and biomolecular evidence for several VIDs suggests that environmental conditions conducive to chronic dietary Se deprivation could be monitored for bioindicators of incipient viral virulence and subsequent pathogenesis.
You might be interested to read Anthony Williama the medical medium books, he talks a lot about virus and viral load etc. And what you can do about it too. Many people are healing from his protocols, check out his website there is a lot of free info there too.
Laura, while I wouldn't be surprised to learn that, I have also read studies that strongly suggest fat cells play a role in immunity and that obesity impairs that role. Perhaps other readers here have additional knowledge about this.
That me be true but my point is that I don’t believe that Covid killed, I believe that fear, anxiety and protocols killed. Governments paid for Covid deaths as we well know. If those people were old or fat, well shrug
I agree. I think people are walking around with poor health already and we didn’t help boost it when they got sick with vitamin D , zinc …. Etc. Then they were intubated “ prophylactically “ and given remdisivir and then Lasix to “ dry out the lungs “ further concentrating that poison in the kidneys leading to renal failure , cardiac stress , and the rest is history .
I do think that fear, anxiety, and protocols played a part, but I think also Covid was a catalyst disease. I think that many things could kill the old and the fat. It if wasn't Covid, it could have been the flu. My thinking of it is, I am fat, old, or have other comorbidities, and so I stand at the precipice of death. I see death as the way down off the precipice of being at risk. Fear/protocols/Covid/a common cold/the flu/or other things pushed people off the edge.
Speaking of that here is more irony of thinking:
At the beginning of the pandemic, the whole country was supposed to shutdown to accommodate a disease that by and large affected the old and the fat.
These same people who now see the vaccination data are questioning this as proof the vaccine as ineffective by saying "yes, but how many of those are old and sick/fat people?"
You can't have it both ways. These people can't say that all these protocols were necessary to save the old and the fat, and then say that the protocols were effective, just not for the groups they originally shut the country down for.
This it the point of those of us against the mandates and all these measures, they should not have been enacted because they were not effective.
This is not to disagree with the question of whether obese hospitalized covid patients may have been intentionally given a lower standard of care, although I believe they would have been prioritized over a slim, non-vaccinated patient.
I disagree. I think the fat and old also have compromised immune systems as it is.
I will agree that the strategy of isolating them, and putting them back into nursing homes and deferring treatment to the overweight didn't help.
I mean, when I stand up i takes more power than when a thin person stands up. That has to mean something. Although, mindset has something to do with it as well. I've had Covid twice. The second time, when it took away my sense of smell for a month, I enjoyed the weight loss benefit of lack of taste meaning also lack of appetite.
Wow, that's a surprising -- and, given what we know now, as the digital communication trail clarifies, wholly plausible -- explanation of events!
It makes a lot of sense in terms of the Bureaucracy's goals and needs.
To be fair and honest, is your assertion here ultra-reliable, commonly understood hearsay, originating from, say, nurses at your workplace? your valid but unprovable conjecture? Or maybe just one remove from 1st-person experience-account?
‘......soon all our fire men and women and police will look like the 2021 photo.’ It’s already happening. I’m a former paramedic in Australia serving 1989 to 2000. I receive every month my former employers magazine. To say I’m shocked would be an understatement for the last two years every graduating class has more and more severely overweight or obese paramedics graduating. When I joined we had to be physically fit, this included climbing 3 flights of stairs with resuscitation equipment and performing 10 minutes of continuous CPR, otherwise you were put on notice to prove why you should not be removed from training. Now, who knows! There is no way some of these paramedics could ever perform under these conditions in simulation let alone out in the real world. Whats to become of patients trapped in vehicles or difficult access or extraction. Will the rescuer become the patient?
All by design. They've been slow-killing us for decades. Now they're fast-killing folks with their Death Jab 💀 They got impatient, I guess the slow-killing was taking too long 😂😬
Every single thing that was mandated to fight covid was the exact opposite of what was known we should do. Perhaps without even knowing the how or why, those fighting the Spanish flu 100 years ago observed that those given plenty of fresh air and sunshine fair better. So what do our esteemed experts of today mandate?, Stay inside! Obesity was known to be a factor in poor outcomes with covid. Maintaining physical activity is key in keeping the weight off but once again, the experts demanded we stay in our residences. Parents in the US were even arrested for allowing their young children to play outside in their own yards. They have forced us into a lifestyle that put us at greater risk not only for covid but other health problems. Given what was known about sedentary lifestyles prior to the panic, the vast majority of medical professionals and public health officials either suddenly got stupid or they want us fat and unhealthy. As hard as the latter is to believe, the former is harder still to believe.
I just turned 74. My grandmother was a nurse during the Spanish flu and she told me to get lots of fresh air and exercise. She taught me how to cook with fresh ingredients and told me almost every cold or flu or fever is better in the morning and to STAY AWAY from pills and doctors. I’ve taken her advice all my life no prescriptions no quackcene and at 5’9” I weigh 150 pounds and my average blood pressure is 135 over 68. Last spring I fractured my ankle and HAD to have surgery. My surgeon is the head of orthopedic surgery at the Cleveland Clinic. He came in on Sunday to operate on me. I healed quickly and no one asked me if I was “vaccinated”. The ONLY reason to go to the doctor is if you break a bone or two because orthopedic surgeons ACTUALLY want you to get well and NOT come back like mine 😉👌🏽
The obesity epidemic isn't entirely self-inflicted on the part of those who are obese. Much blame goes to what is probably a combination of things like childhood vaccines, environmental factors like herbicides, pesticides, and EMF exposure, and degraded soils from farming practices that render it impossible for many people who can't afford organic foods to get necessary nutrients even if they know to avoid processed foods and are otherwise trying to eat the right things. These things work together to destroy the gut microbiome, upset the endocrine system, dysregulate the immune system, and no doubt cause a plethora of other problems that prevent proper metabolization, cause chronic fatigue, and more generally zap people's energy so that even people who want to "move" simply can't. Sure, for many people it's self-inflicted by bad dietary choices and simple laziness, but many others are victims. We're all being poisoned, and the obesity epidemic is the evidence.
Agree! They're just a bunch of criminals making up that stuff. You'd think they would be ashamed to suggest pop tarts or Lucky Charms or Fruit Loops or whatever are good for us while eggs (maybe nature's perfect food?) somehow are bad, but I don't think they lose any sleep when harming people. I've gotten to the point that I don't believe anything coming from the government. All the Covid nonsense demonstrates we all would be way ahead if we simply do the opposite of whatever they claim is good for our health.
I personally believe that the food pyramid chart was developed by a bunch of academics who didn’t have a clue about real world conditions... at least in the developed world.
It looks like a paternalistic attempt to reshape diets in what they would consider to be the perfect way, if only us stupid people would do what they want.... and that would require mandatory maximum food intake.
It’s reminiscent of the traditional peasant diet worldwide. Unfortunately for those who use it, the pyramid doesn’t account for the abundance and easy availability of many types of food in the modern world.
It also doesn’t take into account the fact that there is a fast food restaurant on every corner, offering food that is fast, easy, and usually tastes ok, although not very healthy.
The only way that the food pyramid can ever be made to work is by mandatory food rationing....
Fat people aren' t stupid though, either. Well, maybe some of us are. But then you won't get through to those people either.
Wait, I'm fat? I just thought I grew an end table out of my belly.
What I'm fat? I just thought gravity had a personal thing against me.
If you can tell that someone is being willfully obtuse, then fine, tell them they are fat, but for the most part, you're prophets of the Obvious.
I take no joy in being fat, nor would I blame a doctor (or do) for my recent amputation due to diabetes. I knew I was fat, I didn't treat the disease. To think that a doctor had to tell me something I already knew would be beyond silly.
Do you feel it needed to tell someone who smokes "those things will kill you?" or of someone who drinks 5 cases of beer a week "This is really going to screw up your liver?" Then why, out of all people, would you have to remind those who are fat something they are reminded of every time they move around?
I would recommmend a doctor approach fat people in the following way.
"I just want to tell you, my profession as a doctor informs me that I have to do this, you know your obese, right?"
If they act as if you had told them they were invisible, you were probably right to not speak it, but I imagine most people who you break the news that is patently clear would be of the "No S Sherlock variety.
Or maybe you guys should come out with a PSA and send it with your "orientation" papers of being a the primary physician for a new patient who is fat. You could give it to him in private and have it notify you that he/she saw it.
When I was in the hospital back in 2016 with a diagnosis of "A-Fib" the cardiologist double backed after he talked to me one time in order to tell me I was fat. If I had been saltier, I would have replied with some obvious remark about his appearance...like "You have hair."
I guess people are like Michael Myers in Wayne's World when they meet someone like Fred Savage with a giant mole or Kevil Pollack with a discolored eye. Comedy ensues surrounding this impulse to tell people something they already are well aware of. Maybe I should get some shirts made for a doctor's appointment that say "I know I'm Fat, tell me something I don't know."
Stay on the periphery of the grocery store. As you head down the aisles tell yourself that nothing is worth your health in the aisles. When necessary grab the few healthy items located there and get the hell out of there. Nothing tastes as good as good health feels and thin looks.
The body weight of Americans has long been a problem. One that manifests in many ways. Many years ago, on one of those servers that recreates/reenacts accidents there was a situation in which a lake excursion boat capsized and sank and several drowned. The investigation found that while it was only partially occupied, it was overloaded. It was rated by numbers of persons based upon regulations that were in turn based upon the average body weight of Americans from the 40s or 50s. By the time of the accident, in the 80s or 90s, the average American weighed far more. Yet another reason, I believe, for the smaller number of deaths in Japan than the US these past 3 years. While we have more overweight people here than when I returned 20 years ago, we still have far fewer than the US.
Hey at least those guys in the 2nd picture are out doing something. It's not just what we do, but what we consume as well. It requires a lifestyle change, and I'm currently undergoing one. It's not easy to change habits that are formed over time, and when the doctors don't actually diagnose to solve what's causing a persons problem and just prescribes medicines it doesn't help either.
I've been watching a docuseries this week being shown by Zonia concerning being Toxin Free of which Episode 4 is free and on for about another 17+ hours with 3 more to follow beginning at 7 PM each night.
In the first episode Michael Bauerschmidt, MD states "he tries to ignore patients that come in and say I have this or that disease, and tells them No you have a reason for this or that disease and we need to find", It's hard to find Doctors that take this approach as most follow the Rockefeller protocol of Big Pharma ie "Ask your Doctor" as seen over and over for those who watch ad based media.
We have to be want to change and hopefully more will start to understand the need, and be willing to research the necessary steps and get proper guidance and support.
I'm glad you liked it, I've enjoyed them all so far, and looking forward to the next 3 as I just watched the 4th one this morning. I've only seen the add to join for the $10 a month option for access to the 750+ videos other info so far in the videos, but used to products being offered in these docuseries events. The information itself is tremendous to me as I'm learning far more than I've known.
So far I've only looked up the Dr Bauerschmidt I quoted above for anyone that might be interested.
“Wokeness” is part of the equation. Look around the big stores at the fat mannequins. They want to normalize obesity. Just add that to all the other deranged identities we are supposed to accept.
In the name of (a thoroughly twisted and perverse, hijacked and distorted) "equality," welcome and wokedly embrace the present abandonment of standards and, instead, the actual promotion of the unequivocally evil and hardly democratic institution and practice of "equity".
You see, the impartial, equal application of standards -- like that of the law, there are no better iterations of equality -- is, the Woke narrative runs, implicitly racist because, while the privileged numbers might tend to comply (and in this case, eat, look, feel and live right), the disenfranchised/needy/un- derserved might tend not to do so, leading to such "disparate impact" of standards. The only obvious and available solution? Says the Left: Throw out the standards (ie, the non-anti-racism basis, or cause) -- with the rules for healthy habits and living (ie, the unequally distributed "fruit" of the aforementioned, poisoned, racist vine); and so, the baby with the bathwater. Right, and that's how it's done. By the Left.
Not at all to satisfy classical, rather than Woke, justice -- who statued, iconized Lady remains blinded: impartial to the core.
Thus, I demur, and demand -- rather than command that I be given -- a break.
The peace or remedy I seek is already, innately God-given and co-exists with my being, my life. I simply want restored what had been unlawfully and immorally taken from my existence.
1970, Just the beginning of fast food.
Yes, very good point. Can recall a McD opening my Jr. year of Univ, 1967.
Yes so true, it is also the highly processed packaged foods full of highly processed seed oils that are doing great damage.
At my very active and quite tall son's annual physical, his (overweight) pediatrician suggested my son was underweight. When I mentioned I had noticed his weight was right in the middle of the desired range for BMI (body mass index), he looked it up and agreed with me.
A board-certified doctor should have been able to recognize that my son's weight was normal and healthy. I'm afraid he doesn't see very many slim patients (or people in general) causing him to have an unrealistic sense of "underweight."
That's a nice way to put it.
I'd say he's evidently statistically biased. I wonder, how so? and shouldn't such medical bias be 1) self-recognized, 2) emotionally self-managed, and 3) adjusted in his observations and assessments of any of his patients' individual physical condition and overall health and well-being?
If any or all of the foregoing points of professional, particularly ethical medical conduct are so casually disregarded on the doctor's part clinically, is it, by all relevant measures, professionally excusable?
(Maybe in this case, since he had the courage to put his ego aside, and the good sense to pause, look it up, and, based on the published data and not his own clinical conditioning and likely naturally accommodating (read: kiss-up) manner with other, protective, but probably as a poor model for their children, also overweight-to-obese, emotionally defensive moms, find your son -- anomalously! -- quite normal -- by the better, prescribed, and not the population-based, empirically worse numbers.)
Assuming, for the sake of argument, it's not professionally excusable, your nice characterization presented is, most essentially, then, as to substance, I mean, well done, Mom!
(I believe it doesn't hurt to compliment you, anyway -- despite what you probably already know first-hand: that you're quite aware of your greatness as a mom. Good role-modeling is usually complex and multi-faceted, I've found.)
Such a nice compliment, Gator Guy. Thank you.
Dr Paul, I don’t actually believe that age and obesity were truly involved in causing mortality from Covid. It was that hospitals and care homes were encouraged to kill the elderly and overweight. No one cares if they die, is the excuse that these homicidal doctors used!!
kind of agree.
I’m a physician also and in Mississippi where we have been the unhealthiest state 50/50 in health for decades now. It’s the diet which leads to inactivity i which leads to diabetes and vascular damage and cardiovascular disease . The diets are terrible creating fat that is inflammatory and a huge direct risk factor for over 17 cancers ( breast and uterine in particular in my field ). What changed was the removal of fat in the diet and the replacement with curb syrup and salt to maintain flavor in food . We also have the opposite of anorexia now as we have people who have no idea that their current weight of being 70-250 lbs overweight is a factor on their infertility . It boggles my mind how people can’t see that at 26 years old and 398 lbs ( my infertility pt last week ) that even were o to get her to menstruate , ovulate regularly ( she hasn’t in 2 years , that her pregnancy would be super complicated . They don’t see it as a factor at all . And …. Are not motivated whatsoever to change it at all … being about 200 lbs too late to have made an effective and doable change . Roundup is a chelating agent and coats our food leading to selenium deficiencies and thyroid problems as well as our epidemic of low D3 which is essential for macrophages and monocytes to do their job . It’s low almost 90 percent of the time on panels I check . It’s also the disgusting infiltration of Sara Lee , Coke , Kelloggs etc being on government panels to establish our food pyramids …. With the latest insanity showing a sugary rice crispy treat as a better snack than raw almonds …. What’s a dumb parent to think these days on diet ? Not much. Not much thought at all
I don't know if those people don't know that weight is not a factor in their infertility or if they just don't care, only you would know for sure (and then) I know diabetes and weight played a part in my lack of oomph in that department. Following my amputation, I think it improved circulation to the rest of my body and gave me back some of my mojo, in the words of Austin Powers. I certainly can tell it ebbs and flows at least a bit anecdotally depending on diet.
I imagine it has to grind your gears to see many of us 200 lbs. overweight and very little can be done about it due to thyroid and other issues that crop up. For me, just the thought of all the excess skin and problems surrounding such an eventuality leads to acceptance of my current status.
Others have broached the subject of gastric bypass, but I still don't think it is worth it. A big part of the thing is that I don't want to think about food, and from those who have had the surgery say, is that their mind is preoccupied with it. They have to be painstakingly meticulous about it. Planning what and how much to eat down t o almost the mouthful.
Couple that with the complications and side effects that come with it. and it is not something I look forward to.
I need to get up and running on my prosthetic, and part of the reason is that apparently with a prosthetic, I will burn 70% more calories once I move around than if I have both my legs. I look forward to this.
Yes, the new food guidance is even more ridiculous than the previous ones and shows how compromised our institutions have become.
Wow, thanks for this. I had no idea Roundup stripped selenium. I, in an utterly lay armchair way, during lockdown tracked places where selenium was deficient in soils, where there was high air pollution and where there had been recent outbreaks of anti-biotic resistant bacteria. Quito and Lombardy, I think, had all three. I was unprofessionally just looking for patterns as I knew selenium had been found to mutate viruses toward virulence in a deficient host. I knew this in an internet nonscholarly armchair way however. But I wonder what it portends if they are now pushing, wasn't it Tufts, that said cocoa puffs were better for you than milk and eggs and meat, Roundup soaked foods as healthier? Totally whacked, but maybe not without purpose, since we know they go after vitamin D and zinc and repurposed drugs and nutraceuticals systematically. Here's the abstract on the selenium:
Recently emerged viral infectious diseases (VIDs) include HIV/AIDS, influenzas H5N1 and 2009 H1N1, SARS, and Ebola hemorrhagic fevers. Earlier research determined metabolic oxidative stress in hosts deficient in antioxidant selenium (Se) (<1 μMol Se/L of blood) induces both impaired human host immunocompetence and rapidly mutated benign variants of RNA viruses to virulence. These viral mutations are consistent, rather than stochastic, and long-lived. When Se-deficient virus-infected hosts were supplemented with dietary Se, viral mutation rates diminished and immunocompetence improved. Herein is described the role of micronutrient Se deficiency on the evolution of some contemporary RNA viruses and their subsequent VIDs. Distinguishing cellular and biomolecular evidence for several VIDs suggests that environmental conditions conducive to chronic dietary Se deprivation could be monitored for bioindicators of incipient viral virulence and subsequent pathogenesis.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21318622/
You might be interested to read Anthony Williama the medical medium books, he talks a lot about virus and viral load etc. And what you can do about it too. Many people are healing from his protocols, check out his website there is a lot of free info there too.
Laura, while I wouldn't be surprised to learn that, I have also read studies that strongly suggest fat cells play a role in immunity and that obesity impairs that role. Perhaps other readers here have additional knowledge about this.
That me be true but my point is that I don’t believe that Covid killed, I believe that fear, anxiety and protocols killed. Governments paid for Covid deaths as we well know. If those people were old or fat, well shrug
I agree. I think people are walking around with poor health already and we didn’t help boost it when they got sick with vitamin D , zinc …. Etc. Then they were intubated “ prophylactically “ and given remdisivir and then Lasix to “ dry out the lungs “ further concentrating that poison in the kidneys leading to renal failure , cardiac stress , and the rest is history .
We get more of what what we pay for, no?
I do think that fear, anxiety, and protocols played a part, but I think also Covid was a catalyst disease. I think that many things could kill the old and the fat. It if wasn't Covid, it could have been the flu. My thinking of it is, I am fat, old, or have other comorbidities, and so I stand at the precipice of death. I see death as the way down off the precipice of being at risk. Fear/protocols/Covid/a common cold/the flu/or other things pushed people off the edge.
Speaking of that here is more irony of thinking:
At the beginning of the pandemic, the whole country was supposed to shutdown to accommodate a disease that by and large affected the old and the fat.
These same people who now see the vaccination data are questioning this as proof the vaccine as ineffective by saying "yes, but how many of those are old and sick/fat people?"
You can't have it both ways. These people can't say that all these protocols were necessary to save the old and the fat, and then say that the protocols were effective, just not for the groups they originally shut the country down for.
This it the point of those of us against the mandates and all these measures, they should not have been enacted because they were not effective.
Here's a link to a study exploring obesity's impact on immunity:
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220704/How-does-obesity-affect-the-immune-system.aspx
This is not to disagree with the question of whether obese hospitalized covid patients may have been intentionally given a lower standard of care, although I believe they would have been prioritized over a slim, non-vaccinated patient.
So many to kill, so little time.
I disagree. I think the fat and old also have compromised immune systems as it is.
I will agree that the strategy of isolating them, and putting them back into nursing homes and deferring treatment to the overweight didn't help.
I mean, when I stand up i takes more power than when a thin person stands up. That has to mean something. Although, mindset has something to do with it as well. I've had Covid twice. The second time, when it took away my sense of smell for a month, I enjoyed the weight loss benefit of lack of taste meaning also lack of appetite.
Wow, that's a surprising -- and, given what we know now, as the digital communication trail clarifies, wholly plausible -- explanation of events!
It makes a lot of sense in terms of the Bureaucracy's goals and needs.
To be fair and honest, is your assertion here ultra-reliable, commonly understood hearsay, originating from, say, nurses at your workplace? your valid but unprovable conjecture? Or maybe just one remove from 1st-person experience-account?
It’s not just fast food- take a look at who sponsors you national heart foundation or finances dietary advice and research 🧐
‘......soon all our fire men and women and police will look like the 2021 photo.’ It’s already happening. I’m a former paramedic in Australia serving 1989 to 2000. I receive every month my former employers magazine. To say I’m shocked would be an understatement for the last two years every graduating class has more and more severely overweight or obese paramedics graduating. When I joined we had to be physically fit, this included climbing 3 flights of stairs with resuscitation equipment and performing 10 minutes of continuous CPR, otherwise you were put on notice to prove why you should not be removed from training. Now, who knows! There is no way some of these paramedics could ever perform under these conditions in simulation let alone out in the real world. Whats to become of patients trapped in vehicles or difficult access or extraction. Will the rescuer become the patient?
All by design. They've been slow-killing us for decades. Now they're fast-killing folks with their Death Jab 💀 They got impatient, I guess the slow-killing was taking too long 😂😬
Every single thing that was mandated to fight covid was the exact opposite of what was known we should do. Perhaps without even knowing the how or why, those fighting the Spanish flu 100 years ago observed that those given plenty of fresh air and sunshine fair better. So what do our esteemed experts of today mandate?, Stay inside! Obesity was known to be a factor in poor outcomes with covid. Maintaining physical activity is key in keeping the weight off but once again, the experts demanded we stay in our residences. Parents in the US were even arrested for allowing their young children to play outside in their own yards. They have forced us into a lifestyle that put us at greater risk not only for covid but other health problems. Given what was known about sedentary lifestyles prior to the panic, the vast majority of medical professionals and public health officials either suddenly got stupid or they want us fat and unhealthy. As hard as the latter is to believe, the former is harder still to believe.
I agree, Kitsune, and may I add that they also targeted gyms for closure.
That’s true. Don’t know how I forgot that they closed the gyms.
I just turned 74. My grandmother was a nurse during the Spanish flu and she told me to get lots of fresh air and exercise. She taught me how to cook with fresh ingredients and told me almost every cold or flu or fever is better in the morning and to STAY AWAY from pills and doctors. I’ve taken her advice all my life no prescriptions no quackcene and at 5’9” I weigh 150 pounds and my average blood pressure is 135 over 68. Last spring I fractured my ankle and HAD to have surgery. My surgeon is the head of orthopedic surgery at the Cleveland Clinic. He came in on Sunday to operate on me. I healed quickly and no one asked me if I was “vaccinated”. The ONLY reason to go to the doctor is if you break a bone or two because orthopedic surgeons ACTUALLY want you to get well and NOT come back like mine 😉👌🏽
from the second photo I think I've discovered the reason for rising sea levels!
Global Gorging?
The obesity epidemic isn't entirely self-inflicted on the part of those who are obese. Much blame goes to what is probably a combination of things like childhood vaccines, environmental factors like herbicides, pesticides, and EMF exposure, and degraded soils from farming practices that render it impossible for many people who can't afford organic foods to get necessary nutrients even if they know to avoid processed foods and are otherwise trying to eat the right things. These things work together to destroy the gut microbiome, upset the endocrine system, dysregulate the immune system, and no doubt cause a plethora of other problems that prevent proper metabolization, cause chronic fatigue, and more generally zap people's energy so that even people who want to "move" simply can't. Sure, for many people it's self-inflicted by bad dietary choices and simple laziness, but many others are victims. We're all being poisoned, and the obesity epidemic is the evidence.
so right you are...and what about that poison FOOD PYRAMID CHART!!!???!!
Agree! They're just a bunch of criminals making up that stuff. You'd think they would be ashamed to suggest pop tarts or Lucky Charms or Fruit Loops or whatever are good for us while eggs (maybe nature's perfect food?) somehow are bad, but I don't think they lose any sleep when harming people. I've gotten to the point that I don't believe anything coming from the government. All the Covid nonsense demonstrates we all would be way ahead if we simply do the opposite of whatever they claim is good for our health.
I personally believe that the food pyramid chart was developed by a bunch of academics who didn’t have a clue about real world conditions... at least in the developed world.
It looks like a paternalistic attempt to reshape diets in what they would consider to be the perfect way, if only us stupid people would do what they want.... and that would require mandatory maximum food intake.
It’s reminiscent of the traditional peasant diet worldwide. Unfortunately for those who use it, the pyramid doesn’t account for the abundance and easy availability of many types of food in the modern world.
It also doesn’t take into account the fact that there is a fast food restaurant on every corner, offering food that is fast, easy, and usually tastes ok, although not very healthy.
The only way that the food pyramid can ever be made to work is by mandatory food rationing....
Yes Anthony Williams the medical medium talks a lot about the combination causes, check out his website.
The obesity is so obviously out of control unless your too young to have the photographic evidence and memory.
Medical people are hesitant to speak if it!
Thank you .
Fat people aren' t stupid though, either. Well, maybe some of us are. But then you won't get through to those people either.
Wait, I'm fat? I just thought I grew an end table out of my belly.
What I'm fat? I just thought gravity had a personal thing against me.
If you can tell that someone is being willfully obtuse, then fine, tell them they are fat, but for the most part, you're prophets of the Obvious.
I take no joy in being fat, nor would I blame a doctor (or do) for my recent amputation due to diabetes. I knew I was fat, I didn't treat the disease. To think that a doctor had to tell me something I already knew would be beyond silly.
Do you feel it needed to tell someone who smokes "those things will kill you?" or of someone who drinks 5 cases of beer a week "This is really going to screw up your liver?" Then why, out of all people, would you have to remind those who are fat something they are reminded of every time they move around?
I would recommmend a doctor approach fat people in the following way.
"I just want to tell you, my profession as a doctor informs me that I have to do this, you know your obese, right?"
If they act as if you had told them they were invisible, you were probably right to not speak it, but I imagine most people who you break the news that is patently clear would be of the "No S Sherlock variety.
Or maybe you guys should come out with a PSA and send it with your "orientation" papers of being a the primary physician for a new patient who is fat. You could give it to him in private and have it notify you that he/she saw it.
When I was in the hospital back in 2016 with a diagnosis of "A-Fib" the cardiologist double backed after he talked to me one time in order to tell me I was fat. If I had been saltier, I would have replied with some obvious remark about his appearance...like "You have hair."
I guess people are like Michael Myers in Wayne's World when they meet someone like Fred Savage with a giant mole or Kevil Pollack with a discolored eye. Comedy ensues surrounding this impulse to tell people something they already are well aware of. Maybe I should get some shirts made for a doctor's appointment that say "I know I'm Fat, tell me something I don't know."
Be well Jimmy💜
Thanks.
That photo is a wake-up call.
It' not a wakeup call for those of us who are fat. We don't need photographic evidence. They are called joints.
smokin em? joints?
Stay on the periphery of the grocery store. As you head down the aisles tell yourself that nothing is worth your health in the aisles. When necessary grab the few healthy items located there and get the hell out of there. Nothing tastes as good as good health feels and thin looks.
The body weight of Americans has long been a problem. One that manifests in many ways. Many years ago, on one of those servers that recreates/reenacts accidents there was a situation in which a lake excursion boat capsized and sank and several drowned. The investigation found that while it was only partially occupied, it was overloaded. It was rated by numbers of persons based upon regulations that were in turn based upon the average body weight of Americans from the 40s or 50s. By the time of the accident, in the 80s or 90s, the average American weighed far more. Yet another reason, I believe, for the smaller number of deaths in Japan than the US these past 3 years. While we have more overweight people here than when I returned 20 years ago, we still have far fewer than the US.
Hey at least those guys in the 2nd picture are out doing something. It's not just what we do, but what we consume as well. It requires a lifestyle change, and I'm currently undergoing one. It's not easy to change habits that are formed over time, and when the doctors don't actually diagnose to solve what's causing a persons problem and just prescribes medicines it doesn't help either.
I've been watching a docuseries this week being shown by Zonia concerning being Toxin Free of which Episode 4 is free and on for about another 17+ hours with 3 more to follow beginning at 7 PM each night.
Endocrine System: Conquer The Hormonal Imbalance
https://zonia.com/tf-episode-4-live-4c0098b0
In the first episode Michael Bauerschmidt, MD states "he tries to ignore patients that come in and say I have this or that disease, and tells them No you have a reason for this or that disease and we need to find", It's hard to find Doctors that take this approach as most follow the Rockefeller protocol of Big Pharma ie "Ask your Doctor" as seen over and over for those who watch ad based media.
We have to be want to change and hopefully more will start to understand the need, and be willing to research the necessary steps and get proper guidance and support.
Thanks for the link, watched the video , that's great information!
I'm glad you liked it, I've enjoyed them all so far, and looking forward to the next 3 as I just watched the 4th one this morning. I've only seen the add to join for the $10 a month option for access to the 750+ videos other info so far in the videos, but used to products being offered in these docuseries events. The information itself is tremendous to me as I'm learning far more than I've known.
So far I've only looked up the Dr Bauerschmidt I quoted above for anyone that might be interested.
https://deeperhealing.com/
I found this page inside somewhere but it's not in the links at the top and has some package info included.
https://deeperhealing.com/discovery-labs/