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AwakeNotWoke's avatar

Not all moms with a child with autism vaccinated the child. Do you have other family members with autism or possible autism? Do you think the reported genetic association is possibly confounded with family members of autistic children, even if not necessarily the parents themselves, being vaccinated?

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Edward Flynn's avatar

If the mother was vaccinated the child can be born with highly abnormal missing bifidobacteria. The hazard to brain development is getting to be well established. Other Pharma products and exposures can do the same.

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Chelie's avatar

Many discussions of a genetic link have been tossed around. We have 4 children. 2 sons who are both adults, the younger brother has autism. 2 younger children now in their teens are our adopted kids, niece and nephew on my husbands side. Their birth mom is addicted to drugs and alcohol and has been diagnosed bipolar among other things. A couple of distant relatives on husbands side of the family have autism. I have always wondered if there is a genetic predisposition for some to react to vaccines which trigger autism.

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AwakeNotWoke's avatar

There certainly could be the genetic predisposition you wonder about. Bipolar is associated with drug and alcohol use and also with risk of OCPD which is correlated with autism. Drug and alcohol use are also associated with the a1 allele of the D2 dopamine receptor gene and I wonder how it fits in. There appears to be an association between autism and homosexuality in males and there is a tendency for male homosexuals to be the youngest brother or to have older brothers, although male homosexuality appears to be associated with stress at the end of the first trimester. Sometimes even in identical twin boys, one brother will be homosexual whereas the other is not. Infection with viruses such as influenz during pregnancy has been linked to schizophrenia and there may be a link between schizophrenia and bipolar. It's all very complex and still not well understood.

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Chelie's avatar

My 3 other children are fine, above average intelligence though our youngest adopted son has ADHD & mild dyslexia. He is a math whiz and a gifted athlete. We know for a fact his birth mom abused drugs and alcohol when pregnant with him. Both our adopted kids are doing extremely well given their traumatic start in life.

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AwakeNotWoke's avatar

That is good to hear Chelie. You are doing a very fine thing helping these disadvantaged kids to have a normal life!

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Liz's avatar

My unvaccinated, and autistic, son's dad is autistic and I'm pretty sure grandpa is too. The 'tism, as my son calls it, runs strong in this family.

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AwakeNotWoke's avatar

That makes sense

There's definitely a strong genetic component to the condition. At least nobody any longer subscribes to the "refrigerator mom" theory. There was a time when it was really popular to blame mothers for everything. Thank goodness we have moved on from that nonsense.

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CMCM's avatar

My older brother was born in 1945, and over the years I have finally concluded that he was/is most likely on the autism spectrum. Nothing else explains his odd behavior and personality. He is highly intelligent...he got a full math scholarship to U.C. Berkeley in 1963, but his social behavior was always so odd. My parents didn't know what to do with him in his growing up years, and it was very distressing to them. My mother once told me doctors suggested some horrible type of electric shock treatments, but they refused to do that. Given when he was born, he had minimal vaccines. Both he and I got measles, mumps and chicken pox as children in the 1950s . He probably got a polio vaccine on a sugar cube as I did, but his apparent autism predates that. As for genetic links, I know of no one else in our extended family that were like him.

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AwakeNotWoke's avatar

The are plenty of both vaxxed and unvaxxed with autism.

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