“Harvard’s and UNC’s admissions programs violate the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment,” the Supreme Court ruled in a 6-3 decision in the UNC case and a 6-2 decision in Harvard case
Students are going to be admitted on merit? In the US? Wow?! The world is in shock. US admissions on merit? Being academically mediocre but with the right ancestry is not enough? I bet skin color continues to be used to gain top academic results.
It's about time. It has been a travesty from the beginning. It has degraded university-level teaching, in-class discussions, and inflated grades, leading to the diminishment in quality and trust of all the professions.
Another friend of mine went to Harvard medical school. She told me about one of her classmates who was also a good friend of hers. She was admitted with low grades but she was a minority student. Unfortunately medical school was too hard for her and she really struggled. But they kept pushing her through every class and she managed to get her diploma. Tbh I wouldn’t feel safe in her care !
She is not a truly qualified doctor. She might have made a better hospital worker in a different, significantly lower capacity, where a person's life and health would not be dependent upon her lack of knowledge and ability.
That anecdote dovetails perfectly with the level of care I have been getting since O-care was implemented. Compared to the level of care I've had most of my life from doctors with independent practices, there is light years worth of difference. And oh how they love using the word 'compliance'.
A friend of mine, a university professor told me a couple of years ago that when he gave bad grades to some students his boss told him that he couldn’t do that because they were from minority groups. He told me that these students didn’t do ANYTHING at all, they didn’t pass the tests, they didn’t finish the projects, they didn’t even turn up for his classes. But he had to change his grading so that those students didn’t fail his class.
A perfect example. Minority applicants accepted without the credentials to gain entry into higher education on their own merit lack the intellectual ability and work ethic necessary to do university-level work. No excuses.
You nailed it! Think about infrastructure, doctors, pilots, engineers, even lawyers , lab techs, home care, and more. We are going to see more doctor errors, plane crashes, building and road collapses and more due to this bullchit.
When looking for a professional, definitely check out when they went to school. Do your homework, because what’s out there sucks.
These liberal judges are not true objective Constitutional judges at all and Obama knew exactly what he was doing when he appointed them. They are not even that smart.....Obama is a very deranged mentally ill person and he was “groomed” by leftist organizations. Before he got to Harvard etc he was a third rate student at a second rate college...then suddenly boom he is at Harvard .... ok but this is not about Obama just that the article mentions the leftist judges....there is so much wrong with student loans....Congress passed a law I believe ages ago that no student could declare chapter 11 if he or she could not pay back the loan....you can with business loans but not student loans?....give me a break......more abuse of our kids......second, college is big business not education at all.....and third I watched a Town Hall with Biden where a parent said to him that he, the parent, had worked three jobs to pay for his child’s education and would he get the money back?...Biden pushed him away and said something very nasty.....Biden has always been a very mean spirited pervert....
I believe the entire system needs to be redone....maybe college and trade schools should be a public education extension as we have evolved into needing more than a 12th grade education.....these kids are the continuation of our society.....they are very important......but tens o thousands of dollars a year to get a so called education (a brainwashed one at that) is absurd....
I am 100% behind the trade schools! These folks are the backbone of society, they keep things up and running. Much more then some assclown with a degree that’s not worth the paper it’s printed on!
Yes couldn’t agree more 👍🏻👍🏻 Actually Barry’s mother was a CIA operative and he was groomed from a very young age, hence his university place, and eventual place in the government and eventually President. A criminal operation from the get go. And what a disgrace about student loans!
Universities in the US should not require GenEd classes. Those are completely unnecessary, a waste of time and money. Universities only require those classes so that they can get more money from the students.
Look at the universities in the UK. A bachelor degree takes 3 years, or 4 if the students decide to take a placement year in their 3rd year. The placement year is basically working in their field of study. That makes so much more sense than useless GenEd classes.
A friend of my son couldn’t get her engineering degree because she didn’t have a mandatory history class. She had to stay another semester to get that credit instead of working in her field. How stupid is that!
Finally! It’s insulting to students of color - as if they need help from the government to succeed! It should also be illegal in hiring practices, too.
Minorities are capable of succeeding on their own. They are minorities and therefore it’s logical that they will not dominate in any profession. Not because they’re not capable but because they are a smaller percentage of the population.
Everything said here is highly questionable. The case was presented so superficially that one almost thinks failure was planned. The Court decision however does not do aways with AA as any decent selection process evaluates more than just racial identity. Many POC are highly qualified but suffer from structural racism at every level of their education and admission process. Elite and elitist schools really have no idea of their own racism and that is part of the problem. So Paul is simply spouting racism and celebrating it. Boo Hiss!
"...as any decent selection process evaluates more than just racial identity" ......quite possibly true, however there is more than enough evidence that there hasn't been "decent selection processes" for many many years.
Structural racism, eh? That card is old, tattered, and worn out. And shame on you for playing it on Paul.
Shame on me? Ha! Sorry that you are not entertained by this old problem. Perhaps you need to work on creating the structural changes of power relations so the same card will no longer be needed. As for Paul--he pulls racist stuff all the time and it is insane that his consciousness seems so deficient on the issue. I am glad that Paul puts out science articles on the covid debacle but that does not make him an idol in my book. His politics are reactionary and racist and I have no problem repeating it.
I am sick to death of hearing about "structural changes of power relations" and race issues. It's a tired old trope that gets no one anywhere. Ya'll got the language down pat, all the race hustlers, grievance mongers, community organizers. You see the race boogeyman behind every corner, just waiting to take you down. It's victimhood played to its utmost and where has it gotten anyone?
There are many very fine black people in this country; educated, successful, or not even educated and successful but stay-at-home moms and dads raising good kids and living a decent life. But there are also the professional victims that will not pass up an opportunity to scream racist and play that damn victim card. Woe to their misery, they court it like a lover.
There has always been power imbalances and there always will be. Get over it.
Me, too. I am sick of people who refuse to deal with their own participation in promoting racism and carrying on about how you aren't getting enough of the pie while there are so many who are getting none. If you don't like hearing about structural racism then do something to create equity in power sharing and stop blaming people who are sick of being assaulted with name calling and police brutality.
There is no realistic end game with progressives. As soon as you use the word equity you show me that you live more in a world of imagination than cold hard reality. There is no such thing as equity and there never will be. Welcome to the real world. Every bit of effort you spend working toward equity is effort wasted. You want equality of outcome instead of equality of opportunity. The world simply doesn't work that way, and further, the world is not a fair place either. We all do the best we can - or not - but to live a life that is stoked with division and grievance is no life at all.
Your words, "aren't getting enough of the pie" ....very sad to encounter someone who thinks like that.
Sorry for me? I am quite proud of all I have learned and the work I have done to educate others and create change. What do you do that has made anything better for people? Support an autocrat who preaches hate!
Because of the ruling liberal elite in judiciary and DOJ, and As long as color or race is a consideration, it will be the one and only consideration no matter what SCOTUS rules.
Students are going to be admitted on merit? In the US? Wow?! The world is in shock. US admissions on merit? Being academically mediocre but with the right ancestry is not enough? I bet skin color continues to be used to gain top academic results.
It's about time. It has been a travesty from the beginning. It has degraded university-level teaching, in-class discussions, and inflated grades, leading to the diminishment in quality and trust of all the professions.
Another friend of mine went to Harvard medical school. She told me about one of her classmates who was also a good friend of hers. She was admitted with low grades but she was a minority student. Unfortunately medical school was too hard for her and she really struggled. But they kept pushing her through every class and she managed to get her diploma. Tbh I wouldn’t feel safe in her care !
This has been my point all along , we got folks out there will alleged degrees that can’t add two and two! Yes, I’d be very leery of this one.
She is not a truly qualified doctor. She might have made a better hospital worker in a different, significantly lower capacity, where a person's life and health would not be dependent upon her lack of knowledge and ability.
That anecdote dovetails perfectly with the level of care I have been getting since O-care was implemented. Compared to the level of care I've had most of my life from doctors with independent practices, there is light years worth of difference. And oh how they love using the word 'compliance'.
Yes. The care is terrible.
15 minutes. That's all you get, and they tell you that up front.
She?'s probaly out there overseeing mRNA injections right now.
A friend of mine, a university professor told me a couple of years ago that when he gave bad grades to some students his boss told him that he couldn’t do that because they were from minority groups. He told me that these students didn’t do ANYTHING at all, they didn’t pass the tests, they didn’t finish the projects, they didn’t even turn up for his classes. But he had to change his grading so that those students didn’t fail his class.
A perfect example. Minority applicants accepted without the credentials to gain entry into higher education on their own merit lack the intellectual ability and work ethic necessary to do university-level work. No excuses.
You nailed it! Think about infrastructure, doctors, pilots, engineers, even lawyers , lab techs, home care, and more. We are going to see more doctor errors, plane crashes, building and road collapses and more due to this bullchit.
When looking for a professional, definitely check out when they went to school. Do your homework, because what’s out there sucks.
And internships.
These liberal judges are not true objective Constitutional judges at all and Obama knew exactly what he was doing when he appointed them. They are not even that smart.....Obama is a very deranged mentally ill person and he was “groomed” by leftist organizations. Before he got to Harvard etc he was a third rate student at a second rate college...then suddenly boom he is at Harvard .... ok but this is not about Obama just that the article mentions the leftist judges....there is so much wrong with student loans....Congress passed a law I believe ages ago that no student could declare chapter 11 if he or she could not pay back the loan....you can with business loans but not student loans?....give me a break......more abuse of our kids......second, college is big business not education at all.....and third I watched a Town Hall with Biden where a parent said to him that he, the parent, had worked three jobs to pay for his child’s education and would he get the money back?...Biden pushed him away and said something very nasty.....Biden has always been a very mean spirited pervert....
I believe the entire system needs to be redone....maybe college and trade schools should be a public education extension as we have evolved into needing more than a 12th grade education.....these kids are the continuation of our society.....they are very important......but tens o thousands of dollars a year to get a so called education (a brainwashed one at that) is absurd....
I am 100% behind the trade schools! These folks are the backbone of society, they keep things up and running. Much more then some assclown with a degree that’s not worth the paper it’s printed on!
Well said!!!! Thank you…
Yes couldn’t agree more 👍🏻👍🏻 Actually Barry’s mother was a CIA operative and he was groomed from a very young age, hence his university place, and eventual place in the government and eventually President. A criminal operation from the get go. And what a disgrace about student loans!
Universities in the US should not require GenEd classes. Those are completely unnecessary, a waste of time and money. Universities only require those classes so that they can get more money from the students.
Look at the universities in the UK. A bachelor degree takes 3 years, or 4 if the students decide to take a placement year in their 3rd year. The placement year is basically working in their field of study. That makes so much more sense than useless GenEd classes.
A friend of my son couldn’t get her engineering degree because she didn’t have a mandatory history class. She had to stay another semester to get that credit instead of working in her field. How stupid is that!
IF YOU ARE STILL A DEMONICRAT YOU ARE A COMMUNIST = FACT
Finally! It’s insulting to students of color - as if they need help from the government to succeed! It should also be illegal in hiring practices, too.
It's only insulting to minorities who are actually capable of succeeding on their own merit.
Minorities are capable of succeeding on their own. They are minorities and therefore it’s logical that they will not dominate in any profession. Not because they’re not capable but because they are a smaller percentage of the population.
Everything said here is highly questionable. The case was presented so superficially that one almost thinks failure was planned. The Court decision however does not do aways with AA as any decent selection process evaluates more than just racial identity. Many POC are highly qualified but suffer from structural racism at every level of their education and admission process. Elite and elitist schools really have no idea of their own racism and that is part of the problem. So Paul is simply spouting racism and celebrating it. Boo Hiss!
Is it hard to face reality, Marquette?
"...as any decent selection process evaluates more than just racial identity" ......quite possibly true, however there is more than enough evidence that there hasn't been "decent selection processes" for many many years.
Structural racism, eh? That card is old, tattered, and worn out. And shame on you for playing it on Paul.
Shame on me? Ha! Sorry that you are not entertained by this old problem. Perhaps you need to work on creating the structural changes of power relations so the same card will no longer be needed. As for Paul--he pulls racist stuff all the time and it is insane that his consciousness seems so deficient on the issue. I am glad that Paul puts out science articles on the covid debacle but that does not make him an idol in my book. His politics are reactionary and racist and I have no problem repeating it.
I am sick to death of hearing about "structural changes of power relations" and race issues. It's a tired old trope that gets no one anywhere. Ya'll got the language down pat, all the race hustlers, grievance mongers, community organizers. You see the race boogeyman behind every corner, just waiting to take you down. It's victimhood played to its utmost and where has it gotten anyone?
There are many very fine black people in this country; educated, successful, or not even educated and successful but stay-at-home moms and dads raising good kids and living a decent life. But there are also the professional victims that will not pass up an opportunity to scream racist and play that damn victim card. Woe to their misery, they court it like a lover.
There has always been power imbalances and there always will be. Get over it.
Me, too. I am sick of people who refuse to deal with their own participation in promoting racism and carrying on about how you aren't getting enough of the pie while there are so many who are getting none. If you don't like hearing about structural racism then do something to create equity in power sharing and stop blaming people who are sick of being assaulted with name calling and police brutality.
There is no realistic end game with progressives. As soon as you use the word equity you show me that you live more in a world of imagination than cold hard reality. There is no such thing as equity and there never will be. Welcome to the real world. Every bit of effort you spend working toward equity is effort wasted. You want equality of outcome instead of equality of opportunity. The world simply doesn't work that way, and further, the world is not a fair place either. We all do the best we can - or not - but to live a life that is stoked with division and grievance is no life at all.
Your words, "aren't getting enough of the pie" ....very sad to encounter someone who thinks like that.
Very well expressed rebuttals to that tiresome propaganda, Rust.
Ha. I missed your little bio earlier, I should have known.
"Progressive activist all my life."
I feel sorry for you.
Sorry for me? I am quite proud of all I have learned and the work I have done to educate others and create change. What do you do that has made anything better for people? Support an autocrat who preaches hate!
What autocrat are you referring to? As for hatred, you wear it well.
Exactly what “structural racism” do they face?
Because of the ruling liberal elite in judiciary and DOJ, and As long as color or race is a consideration, it will be the one and only consideration no matter what SCOTUS rules.