America needs DeSantis to stay where he is for now to show the other 49 states how to re-assert American values in public life. And to remind Washington that the states are not subserviant to the federal government.
I'm so pleased with his telling Disney how things are going to be in the state of Florida from now on -- and for his refusal to take orders on covid policy in Florida from the Biden Administration.
The claims that DeSantis was grooming underage girls are shocking. It's great that Trump has exposed this. Democrats and RINOs would never expose it. It would just create heat for Biden and the Lincoln Project. The idea that DeSantis could replace Biden is terrifying, especially for the parents of young girls, and young boys. It's vital that Trump is the GOP nominee. He has a proven record on fighting child trafficking and exploitation.
Because they are dumb and they are brainwashed sheep. Also, because Kavanaugh and Amy Commie Barrett voted with the other RINOs and Dems on the SCOTUS to reject Trump's election challenges. I wonder what 30 pieces of silver in biblical times equates to today. Seems to me like someone greased Commie Barrett's palm. Both she and Kavanaugh look like adrenochrome junkies.
He will continue to help Florida while running for POTUS and when he wins. Fighting Woke is a winning strategy. At least 75% of country hates Woke, including people like Bill Mayer.
It is pathetic that every time a Republican (or organization) shows support for DeSantis (like Breitbart) they are called RINOS. Fact is that Trump represents Megalomania.
Fact is moderates (past Dems) like Joe Rogan and the savior of free speech, Elon Musk, both said they would vote for DeSantis, but still don't like Trump.
DeSantis is running. His exploratory committee should end around June, when he announces.
I AGREE that Trump should stop making up belittling "names" for his opponents. It worked in 2016, his schtick was new and funny and people loved it. But it it just sounds juvenile and desperate given the world condition in 2023. People are broke, injured or sick and in constant anxiety. No one wants to hear about "Ron DeSanctimonious". He shouldn't be boosting that picture of RDS and the high school girls, it's beneath him to do so.
DeSanctimonious needs to declare he will not be running or Trump will disembowel him. Trump will make Epstein and kiddy sniffer look like saints compared to DeSanctimonious if DeSanctimonious doesn't pull his head in and get out of Trump's way. DeSanctimonious is very good on the jabs but at the end of the day he is a RINO and after being betrayed by Pence, Trump is on a mission to annihilate RINOs
I'm with Trump ALL the way. I live in Florida and keep calling DeSantis to find out why we can't get a prescription of Ivermectin filled in any pharmacy in Florida. You have to hunt far and wide to find one who will fill it. In Tennessee, Ivermectin is sold over the
That should tell you all you need to know. If Trump's released the photos of DeSantis with the high school girls this early, what's he holding back? I hope it's not photos of DeSantis with small boys. I don't think DeSantis is another Lindsey Graham but he's playing with fire and if he doesn't do the right thing and back out he's going to get burned.
That doesn't sound unreasonable. It's a lot better than being targeted by the secret police for saying it's effective, which has happened to quite a few doctors and scientists. I'd prefer to get it from dispensing machines.
You're comparing DeSantis to Jeffrey Epstein? You're kidding, right? RDS done many positive things for Florida, but in the end is just your basic empty suit, political climber. A smart but malleable political climber who has found his niche.
Trump needs to stop with the same old schtick, and SOMEHOW find a way to telegraph to the base that he understands what's going on with the global cull agenda. Otherwise he's telegraphing that he'll get fooled again.
And I promise that DeSantis won't attack Trump, which is going to make Trump even angrier as more and polls show he does better against Biden by 4-5% than Trump.
Like the 2016 polls that showed Hillary ahead by 15 points. If DeSantis betrays him then he'll face the same fate that is awaiting Pence and a lot of other cucks once Trump is back in
I heard a comment from someone I know who detests Biden that he'd trust Biden around his young kids before he'd trust DeSanctimonious. You are correct in what you say. DeSanctimonious is just another Pence. Weak, no integrity, just a RINO. Liz Cheney without the dress.
Don't get me wrong. Out of all the RINOs, DeSantis is the best. He's outflanked Trump on the right on the jab, which is great, even if for Machiavellian purposes. But he's still a RINO.
I agree with you. Trump will come back and set things right, get rid of perversion, communism, evil and corrupt agendas and bring back family values and entrepreneurship, and people working together to make life good for everyone. I've had about enough of this hell we've been going through.
How exactly will Trump "come back"? Are you unaware of the election fraud that took place in the 2020 election? Are you unaware of the election fraud that took place in the recent mid-terms? Are you unaware of the election fraud that has taken place around the globe of late?
Quaterfois: I agree that election fraud, including lack of required voter photo ID, falsified mail-in ballots, ballot harvesting, and outright illegal election practices in vote counting and reporting -- all by Democrats -- is the biggest concern for the 2024 election.
Of late? It started in the US under LBJ in Texas in the 1950s, if not before, when LBJ and the Dems stuffed ballot boxes to get LBJ into the senate. Then in 1960 LBJ rigged the presidential election for himself and JFK against Nixon, who actually won, so that LBJ could get within one heartbeat of the presidency. LBJ was a psychopath who boasted that he had had more women accidentally than JFK, who he hated, ever got on purpose. The late Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe was considered the world superheavyweight champion of election riggers but he is reported to have done his apprenticeship under the US Dems.
Points taken. And I completely agree....LBJ was a sociopath. His "great society" programs have helped to destroy the United States. When I said of late, I was more referring to the World Economic Forum. That is who I believe is behind all of the election fraud that has been happening in the United States, and around the globe, for the past several years. I believe they have been doing it for decades, but have really ramped it up over the past several years in preperation for their "Great Reset", which I believe is prelude to United Nations "Agenda 21 / 30". Joe Biden is completely onboard with the World Economic Forum's "Great Reset". In fact, the Biden / Harris campaign slogan was "Build Back Better", the slogan of the World Economic Forum's "Great Reset".
This is much bigger than simple ballot box stuffing. In NY it’s massive ballot stuffing paired with voter roll fraud for the purpose of reconciling fraudulent ballot counts with fraudulent “voters who voted” counts.
Which, of course you can read about and watch in the videos at both of those links as well as the Twitter thread (go from that “bottom point” UP) at http://is.gd/tosaveny
Thanks for the link. I bet on Trump to win in a landslide and feel ripped off. The only steps I expected him to lose were Oregon and Washington but to be on the safe side I bet on a smaller landslide than I was expecting.
You were correct. Too bad the legal system didn’t hear all the cases with the mountain of evidence. I’d like to see a “Grover Trumpland” return with 8 years of RP perhaps after that.
You are right, the people that are running the world are going to put in whoever they see fit. They want a NEW WORLD ORDER, Depopulation, more control, more pandemics. they are going to make our lives miserable and no one will fight back people have become complacent. Look at the injuries/death with the Vax and I don't see anything being done.
DeSantis’ time is now, this is his moment. Trump will not win, he’s already lost to Biden, and he doesn’t deserve to win. No I don’t like Biden but truthfully, Trump outsourced his presidency to these covidians, I give it 50/50 odds he would have went along with vax mandates too.
If you know someone is coming for you and do nothing to protect yourself, that’s on you. Trump lost. Period. He says there was fraud, he should have done something to stop it then. He did nothing but whine. And after the election, as Barnes has explained, he let Rudy G and Sydney P ruin any chance he had.
Did Trump give up and just walk away? Or did he place the country under Devolution and is waking Americans up to the level of corruption in our government? If we the people don’t wake up and fight to take out this corruption, what good is it to save the nation? The corruption will just creep back in and take us over all over again. I believe we are entering into disclosure and then, only when everyone wakes up to the lies we’ve been living then we can prevent this in the future. I believe, Trump is working with a global alliance to take out the central banks, fake federal reserve and deep state. Trump had to get off the stage during this process.
On Xi's instruction and with Xi's help. Biden does what the Chinese Communist Party tells him. In return he gets the big dollars, or yuan, into offshore accounts and access to the Chinese preschool kids with scented hair and the Chinese get national security info on how to defeat the US in the event of a conflict. The balloon would have been transmitting surveillance dats Instantaneously to Biden's owners in Beijing. That's why he shot it down, for show, only after it had finished its mission.
If you follow US lawyer Robert Barnes, he gives excellent insight into the logic, strategies, options, and consequences re: Trump/DeSantis.
Robert Barnes consulted for Trump prior to 2016, so he stays tapped in to the inner circles. He is also apolitical in that - he calls a spade a spade, regardless of its color.
Both Trump and De Santis attract grifters, lobbyists, covert operatives. Both are 'victims' of being fed or restricted from information. In Trump's case, he genuinely meant everything he said in the lead up to his 2016 win, and - as much as possible - he took action on those things. He was hampered by being too naive - not realising just how deep and compromised the swamp was. He thought if he 'played nice' by appointing certain people who were recommended to him - that he would be building bridges. He didn't realise these would end up betraying him.
He won't make that mistake again. However, he still has opportunists around him. The challenge for Trump is he was SO effective in his first term that the Rinos AND the Dems will do all they can to stop him from running again. Even so, he has the biggest lead by far. If he can repair the damage he did reL the vaccines - once again via relying on the wrong information that was being fed to him - he is the current best candidate.
De Santis however - is a great governor - but according to Barnes - there are some things he has remained quiet on (e.g. election fraud) and some things from earlier in his career that indicate 'approach with caution' (e.g. foreign policy).
Barnes is concerned that the people who see him and Trump as a dual threat are sowing seeds of unrest between the two camps - AND - they are encouraging De Santis to run for 2024 - BECAUSE it is too early for him - and it will mean political suicide if he tries.
He is better off as VP, working out the kinks in his pragmatic approach from there, then taking the top job in 2028.
See Barnes on twitter, but for even better analysis, see his summaries on VivaBarneslaw.locals.com He is very accessible, unswayed by machinations from either side - and definitely well-versed in law, history, politics - and - he is a champion of the people.
He has been 99% right about pretty much everything since I started listening to him.
I’m a fan of Barnes though I don’t follow him these days, for lack of time and his locals channel used to be behind a paywall, or so I thought.
Trump was his own worst enemy. I know he was betrayed, but that excuse only goes so far. He was extremely vocal about the issues with mail in ballots before the election, but did absolutely nothing about it except whine and complain. If he just would have behaved like DeSantis, he would have won in 2020, the volume was too loud and it was driving everyone crazy. He will not win even against Biden. He still talks up the vaccines and ridiculed Kemp for opening up too early.
DeSantis has been very effective as Governor, doesn’t talk much just does it. Doesn’t threaten this or that, just announces one day they are empaneling a grand jury, or introducing legislation for this or that. I do wonder about his foreign policy positions, but he seems to have a strong populist streak. Maybe he hasn’t said much about voter fraud, but FL created an office or something similar to investigate it and they changed the law in FL to make it harder to cheat.
All good points. I mostly agree. Sad to see what has happened. I was tracking all the committees, goals and boots-on-the-ground action Trump was taken when in the House. Epic. Despite dealing with a daily barrage of attacks and blocks.
What I liked most about his approach was - it seemed so obvious what to do - and so, just do it. The rest of them faff about giving each other a smell check and doing nothing - making promises - putting on displays of shock or commitment or whatever is the flavour of the day. And he was DOING things.
When he was blocked from Twitter, he was blocked from his best advisors: the People. So, he has become fuzzy around the edges or is double-dipping into things he thought worked - even if they did before, they don't now. So, he's out of touch.
Given a proper finger on the pulse he would be effective again. And his enemies (enemies of the people) know it. So, they are doing anything and everything to stop him. Has he missed the moment? Perhaps so. Quite a few people have grown beyond what he WAS offering - especially given the failures (whomever is to blame). But - if he jumped to the front of decency, common sense, relevant action, and that extra flair he has had for spicing things up for the scoundrels, I think people would join him again.
Barnes makes a point: if there is such an effort to take Trump down - it means they are afraid of him - and that means he poses a serious threat.
Meanwhile, and especially at this late stage, I see no one else. So, I'm hoping hoping hoping Trump gets clear headed.
So much to appreciate about De Santis. They seem like a good pairing. But, I trust Barnes's perspective, so I'm in wait-and-see mode. I think he's doing such a great job in Florida ... he ought to stay and keep evolving his successes there.
You can join the VivaBarnes locals at the free subscriber level and still benefit from plenty of content. My favourites are Sunday nights, where they both break down latest legal news and cases. As well, Bourbon with Barnes, which he does spontaneously on some evenings. He will do more of a deep dive into a current event/discussion, and he answers viewer questions.
In full disclosure, I voted for Trump twice. The more that time goes on, the more I sour on Trump. He genuinely did some great things. I believe he would have been reelected again, if not for Covid, but even with Covid, had he just behaved similar to how DeSantis behaves, he would have also won reelection.
I think Barnes is right, the establishment is afraid of Trump.
But look, his enemies exploit his ego too easily. He cares too much about what NYT and WA Post reporters think about him. He doesn’t learn from his mistakes. And when the chips were down, he folded like a cheap suit and completely outsourced his presidency, supporting lockdowns and all of it. I bet you he would have went along with vax mandates if he thought it would have helped him.
Contrast Trump and DeSantis from 2020 until now and it’s blatantly obvious which person has shown more courage. The globalists, the elites, are pushing the vaccine mandates, the vax passports, transgender stuff, social credit; and DeSantis has firmly, vocally stood up to ALL OF IT. He doesn’t bloviate and threaten to do it, he passes legislation. He has even taken a stance against China. I haven’t seen any evidence whatsoever that he is a globalist. I think his foreign-policy views remain to be seen, I will state upfront there is no way I would vote for a neocon—the interventionist, foreign policy align completely with what the globalists/elites want. So far DeSantis has opposed them vigorously. DeSantis has spoken out against the “biomedical security state“.
I actually believe that DeSantis might be the biggest reason why the Biden administration did not institute or try to institute a country wide vaccine passport system. I believe the New York Times even reported that. DeSantis has practically been the shadow commander in chief of the country during the Biden administration. I believe things would have gotten a lot darker here in the United States had he not been governor of Florida.
I've been observing the same. Well said. Trump's ego is his strength and downfall. De Santis is a rockstar of straight talk. I'm still cautious though. Barnes identifies that De Santis has people around him of dubious intentions.
The world watches - because - up until 2020 - so much that happens in USA impacts the world. Since this debacle, people are realising - this is not democracy vs. communism or fascism - it's elitist oligarchs vs. the people.
We are seeing the beginnings of a dis-assembling of the current system. It's going to take a bit of mess-making to get through it - but I'm hopeful we will, and we will be more autonomous as individuals, and as nations.
I'm sad for Trump - for what we know he could have been. I'm sad for the true USA - for the unnecessary suffering. But, I'm excited to see so many moral warriors starting to realise what needs to be done ... and evolve ways to do it. If Trump gets on board with that (because at his core, I think that's been his goal the whole time) - then great. If not, we will work out how to do it anyway.
I don’t believe DeSantis is anything like Pence, not in any way whatsoever. Pence is a weak man and gutless. DeSantis has shown plenty of courage and exerts his will. He won’t threaten, he just acts.
Biden and the Dems are trying to get DeSantis the nomination for a reason. He's easiest to beat than Trump and if they don't beat him he's controlled opposition anyway. He's just another Pence.
Guys, please understand that president means nothing. Look at Trump; the deep state took him out just like JFK; at least Trump still has his life.
DeSantis should stay where he is and help find more governors like him. We will have far more power in having 20-plus states with governors like DeSantis. The problem is DC; the whole apparatus is corrupt, and both parties are corrupt and take turns driving the country into the ground. They play tag teams with each other.
However, the states are a different animal, and the corruption from DC is further removed. You see, the further we move away from federalism, the closer we get to state power, precisely what the framers intended. We have allowed the Federal government to attain far too much power over the decades. This needs to change; the best way to do that is to control each state. This then becomes a tail waging the corrupted DC dog.
Ask yourselves this: what have we obtained each time we have had control of the executive branch? Very little. Trump kept Hillary out of the seat of power; he became a vital speed bump. But, he could not retain the position for more than one term. Additionally, he was distracted by one fake issue after another by the deep state to keep him occupied.
Then ask yourself the following: what if we had Trump and DeSantis clones in other states? Not only is this easier to control (election fraud notwithstanding), but the terms of the governorship are easier and cheaper to extend over time.
We are making a mistake by just focusing on the presidential elections. Sure, make an effort to get the right person in control of the executive branch and as many as possible in the legislative. But focusing mainly on the state powers will have a long-lasting effect without the pressure of the constant four year routine that usually has little impact.
Those of you calling Trump a child, keep in mind when he makes a move, he’s at least 20 steps ahead of everyone. When he nick names someone, they are going down. Just watch him. Trump has the world believing he’s not too smart and immature. Why? So you always underestimate him. Boom!
Maybe the GOP should be a bit more like parties in other countries and start expelling representatives who support the agenda of rival parties. In most conservative parties in other countries, communists like Romney, Lindsey Graham, Kinzinger and Liz Cheneywould be shown the door. Unity is strength. Disunity is death. If DeSantis doesn't get on board with Trump's agenda on election fraud and the 2020 election result he's supporting the Dem agenda. He should be told to get with the program or f-ck off back to China. Biden has made the US the laughing stock of the world. When people in other countries think of Biden, they think of a dementia patient sniffing little girls, of drag queens in schools and of the US Supreme Court finding that the US constitution gives Americans a right to sodomy and gay marriage. In what other country did their founding fathers think it was vitally important to include a "right" to be sodomised and in what other country are drag queens encouraged to model behavior for children? Representatives of the GOP who support this agenda should be booted out.
The fascist/leftist dems are already counting the votes for 2024...The Dummy is in the lead by 50 million votes. No repub has a chance. DeSantis does well in Florida, but he will be like Trump and get no support from the repubs/RINO-tards once he is in the DC Swamp. He will be digested by the filthy gators that reside there.
Ron will do whatever his handlers tell him to do. He’s done a pretty good job in FL, I’d give him a B-. But he’s part of the establishment, how is this not totally obvious. BTW, Trump is in the swamp now too. Look who is surrounding him.
What's NQ? You are generous for giving him a B. He answers to Xi, just like Mitch McTurtle. He's a cuck. One Trump is worth a thousand DeSanctimoniouses.
NQ is the NASDAQ 100 futures contract, which I trade along with a few other futures.
His B- is basically for not going bonkers with COVID, hiring a good Surgeon General and trolling. He is now pushing for Constitutional carry which should have been done in his first term along with some 2A protections like Missouri did.
He gets extra credit for not being a gay meth head or Charlie Crist.
I hope you are NOT wrong about this.
America needs DeSantis to stay where he is for now to show the other 49 states how to re-assert American values in public life. And to remind Washington that the states are not subserviant to the federal government.
I'm so pleased with his telling Disney how things are going to be in the state of Florida from now on -- and for his refusal to take orders on covid policy in Florida from the Biden Administration.
Yes.
Desantis needs to be a leader and remove all election electronics from his state!!!!
He also needs to stay right away from minors.
The claims that DeSantis was grooming underage girls are shocking. It's great that Trump has exposed this. Democrats and RINOs would never expose it. It would just create heat for Biden and the Lincoln Project. The idea that DeSantis could replace Biden is terrifying, especially for the parents of young girls, and young boys. It's vital that Trump is the GOP nominee. He has a proven record on fighting child trafficking and exploitation.
Why do people believe that these people will not commit election fraud again in 2024? Asking for a friend. 🙄
Because they are dumb and they are brainwashed sheep. Also, because Kavanaugh and Amy Commie Barrett voted with the other RINOs and Dems on the SCOTUS to reject Trump's election challenges. I wonder what 30 pieces of silver in biblical times equates to today. Seems to me like someone greased Commie Barrett's palm. Both she and Kavanaugh look like adrenochrome junkies.
Judge Amy got that BIG book deal. But, she was refused the second by a Publisher.
Ketanji Jumanji got a nice one, though. Entitled, Lovely One :-(
Exactly. The Leftists are going after all 3 in 2024.
Boomers and normies. No AZ and no PA = no White House.
I live in Fl and hope he waits, he is doing such a great job here.
He will continue to help Florida while running for POTUS and when he wins. Fighting Woke is a winning strategy. At least 75% of country hates Woke, including people like Bill Mayer.
It is pathetic that every time a Republican (or organization) shows support for DeSantis (like Breitbart) they are called RINOS. Fact is that Trump represents Megalomania.
Fact is moderates (past Dems) like Joe Rogan and the savior of free speech, Elon Musk, both said they would vote for DeSantis, but still don't like Trump.
DeSantis is running. His exploratory committee should end around June, when he announces.
You haven't been reading the Conservative Treehouse. DeSantis sold himself out to the
Elite Rhino Establishment man. He wouldn't be Governor, if not for President Trump.
How fast he forgets. Trump is MAGA. With the Leftists stealing Elections and
getting away with it, who knows what will happen in 2024. Now, a lot of States
are doing the rank voting. That's another sure way to beat the system. That's
how Lisa Murkowski won (frauded) her way in the US Senate for another
6 freaking years.
Wow!! I’m shocked at the lack of support for the best president we’ve ever had. Trump.
Xi and Schwab pay well Lisa.
Trump won’t be POTUS either if he doesn’t stop attacking DeSantis; he gives impression of being off.
We must have a STRONG candidate & get whomever elected. Otherwise it’s o.v.e.r.
I AGREE that Trump should stop making up belittling "names" for his opponents. It worked in 2016, his schtick was new and funny and people loved it. But it it just sounds juvenile and desperate given the world condition in 2023. People are broke, injured or sick and in constant anxiety. No one wants to hear about "Ron DeSanctimonious". He shouldn't be boosting that picture of RDS and the high school girls, it's beneath him to do so.
At times he just appears obtuse.
DeSanctimonious needs to declare he will not be running or Trump will disembowel him. Trump will make Epstein and kiddy sniffer look like saints compared to DeSanctimonious if DeSanctimonious doesn't pull his head in and get out of Trump's way. DeSanctimonious is very good on the jabs but at the end of the day he is a RINO and after being betrayed by Pence, Trump is on a mission to annihilate RINOs
I'm with Trump ALL the way. I live in Florida and keep calling DeSantis to find out why we can't get a prescription of Ivermectin filled in any pharmacy in Florida. You have to hunt far and wide to find one who will fill it. In Tennessee, Ivermectin is sold over the
counter.
That should tell you all you need to know. If Trump's released the photos of DeSantis with the high school girls this early, what's he holding back? I hope it's not photos of DeSantis with small boys. I don't think DeSantis is another Lindsey Graham but he's playing with fire and if he doesn't do the right thing and back out he's going to get burned.
I agree. Really BURNED. Go and read www.conservativetreehouse.com
Sundance has the scoop on DeSantis.
www.theconservativetreehouse.com
Trump didn't release the pictures. He reposted them.
Do you honestly think Trump can get you that Ivermectin??? Wow.
Just get it at a compounding pharmacy like the rest of us do.
You still have to have a consult with a pharmacist and have certain symptoms to get it. My parents live there.
That doesn't sound unreasonable. It's a lot better than being targeted by the secret police for saying it's effective, which has happened to quite a few doctors and scientists. I'd prefer to get it from dispensing machines.
You're comparing DeSantis to Jeffrey Epstein? You're kidding, right? RDS done many positive things for Florida, but in the end is just your basic empty suit, political climber. A smart but malleable political climber who has found his niche.
Trump needs to stop with the same old schtick, and SOMEHOW find a way to telegraph to the base that he understands what's going on with the global cull agenda. Otherwise he's telegraphing that he'll get fooled again.
And I promise that DeSantis won't attack Trump, which is going to make Trump even angrier as more and polls show he does better against Biden by 4-5% than Trump.
Like the 2016 polls that showed Hillary ahead by 15 points. If DeSantis betrays him then he'll face the same fate that is awaiting Pence and a lot of other cucks once Trump is back in
Lol. Cmon man. Lol.
DeSantis surrogates and Rino media are attacking trump. Lol. Of course trump is hitting back.
I can hardly wait till DeSantis is called Mr. TPP. Lol.
How TRUE......
Trump is a child.
Mr TPP DeSantis is a Rino.
Only democrats, other Rinos, the military complex, and corporate globalists want a Rino president.
DeSantis = Bush 3.0. More wars and Jebs amnesty. He’s an establishment candidate.
I heard a comment from someone I know who detests Biden that he'd trust Biden around his young kids before he'd trust DeSanctimonious. You are correct in what you say. DeSanctimonious is just another Pence. Weak, no integrity, just a RINO. Liz Cheney without the dress.
Don't get me wrong. Out of all the RINOs, DeSantis is the best. He's outflanked Trump on the right on the jab, which is great, even if for Machiavellian purposes. But he's still a RINO.
YES.....I Agree.
I agree with you. Trump will come back and set things right, get rid of perversion, communism, evil and corrupt agendas and bring back family values and entrepreneurship, and people working together to make life good for everyone. I've had about enough of this hell we've been going through.
How exactly will Trump "come back"? Are you unaware of the election fraud that took place in the 2020 election? Are you unaware of the election fraud that took place in the recent mid-terms? Are you unaware of the election fraud that has taken place around the globe of late?
Quaterfois: I agree that election fraud, including lack of required voter photo ID, falsified mail-in ballots, ballot harvesting, and outright illegal election practices in vote counting and reporting -- all by Democrats -- is the biggest concern for the 2024 election.
The Dems have it in the bag. They've already won. They have other methods beyond what you've mentioned. Gateway Pundit reported on some a while back.
Of late? It started in the US under LBJ in Texas in the 1950s, if not before, when LBJ and the Dems stuffed ballot boxes to get LBJ into the senate. Then in 1960 LBJ rigged the presidential election for himself and JFK against Nixon, who actually won, so that LBJ could get within one heartbeat of the presidency. LBJ was a psychopath who boasted that he had had more women accidentally than JFK, who he hated, ever got on purpose. The late Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe was considered the world superheavyweight champion of election riggers but he is reported to have done his apprenticeship under the US Dems.
Points taken. And I completely agree....LBJ was a sociopath. His "great society" programs have helped to destroy the United States. When I said of late, I was more referring to the World Economic Forum. That is who I believe is behind all of the election fraud that has been happening in the United States, and around the globe, for the past several years. I believe they have been doing it for decades, but have really ramped it up over the past several years in preperation for their "Great Reset", which I believe is prelude to United Nations "Agenda 21 / 30". Joe Biden is completely onboard with the World Economic Forum's "Great Reset". In fact, the Biden / Harris campaign slogan was "Build Back Better", the slogan of the World Economic Forum's "Great Reset".
This is much bigger than simple ballot box stuffing. In NY it’s massive ballot stuffing paired with voter roll fraud for the purpose of reconciling fraudulent ballot counts with fraudulent “voters who voted” counts.
Which, of course you can read about and watch in the videos at both of those links as well as the Twitter thread (go from that “bottom point” UP) at http://is.gd/tosaveny
Thanks for the link. I bet on Trump to win in a landslide and feel ripped off. The only steps I expected him to lose were Oregon and Washington but to be on the safe side I bet on a smaller landslide than I was expecting.
You were correct. Too bad the legal system didn’t hear all the cases with the mountain of evidence. I’d like to see a “Grover Trumpland” return with 8 years of RP perhaps after that.
RD
You are right, the people that are running the world are going to put in whoever they see fit. They want a NEW WORLD ORDER, Depopulation, more control, more pandemics. they are going to make our lives miserable and no one will fight back people have become complacent. Look at the injuries/death with the Vax and I don't see anything being done.
Check these out in NY: AuditNY.com
(Shortcuts to important links:
b.link/EyesOpen )
DeSantis’ time is now, this is his moment. Trump will not win, he’s already lost to Biden, and he doesn’t deserve to win. No I don’t like Biden but truthfully, Trump outsourced his presidency to these covidians, I give it 50/50 odds he would have went along with vax mandates too.
Trump did not lose to Biden. Let’s get that clear.
If you know someone is coming for you and do nothing to protect yourself, that’s on you. Trump lost. Period. He says there was fraud, he should have done something to stop it then. He did nothing but whine. And after the election, as Barnes has explained, he let Rudy G and Sydney P ruin any chance he had.
Did Trump give up and just walk away? Or did he place the country under Devolution and is waking Americans up to the level of corruption in our government? If we the people don’t wake up and fight to take out this corruption, what good is it to save the nation? The corruption will just creep back in and take us over all over again. I believe we are entering into disclosure and then, only when everyone wakes up to the lies we’ve been living then we can prevent this in the future. I believe, Trump is working with a global alliance to take out the central banks, fake federal reserve and deep state. Trump had to get off the stage during this process.
The World Economic Forum placed Biden into office.
On Xi's instruction and with Xi's help. Biden does what the Chinese Communist Party tells him. In return he gets the big dollars, or yuan, into offshore accounts and access to the Chinese preschool kids with scented hair and the Chinese get national security info on how to defeat the US in the event of a conflict. The balloon would have been transmitting surveillance dats Instantaneously to Biden's owners in Beijing. That's why he shot it down, for show, only after it had finished its mission.
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If you follow US lawyer Robert Barnes, he gives excellent insight into the logic, strategies, options, and consequences re: Trump/DeSantis.
Robert Barnes consulted for Trump prior to 2016, so he stays tapped in to the inner circles. He is also apolitical in that - he calls a spade a spade, regardless of its color.
Both Trump and De Santis attract grifters, lobbyists, covert operatives. Both are 'victims' of being fed or restricted from information. In Trump's case, he genuinely meant everything he said in the lead up to his 2016 win, and - as much as possible - he took action on those things. He was hampered by being too naive - not realising just how deep and compromised the swamp was. He thought if he 'played nice' by appointing certain people who were recommended to him - that he would be building bridges. He didn't realise these would end up betraying him.
He won't make that mistake again. However, he still has opportunists around him. The challenge for Trump is he was SO effective in his first term that the Rinos AND the Dems will do all they can to stop him from running again. Even so, he has the biggest lead by far. If he can repair the damage he did reL the vaccines - once again via relying on the wrong information that was being fed to him - he is the current best candidate.
De Santis however - is a great governor - but according to Barnes - there are some things he has remained quiet on (e.g. election fraud) and some things from earlier in his career that indicate 'approach with caution' (e.g. foreign policy).
Barnes is concerned that the people who see him and Trump as a dual threat are sowing seeds of unrest between the two camps - AND - they are encouraging De Santis to run for 2024 - BECAUSE it is too early for him - and it will mean political suicide if he tries.
He is better off as VP, working out the kinks in his pragmatic approach from there, then taking the top job in 2028.
See Barnes on twitter, but for even better analysis, see his summaries on VivaBarneslaw.locals.com He is very accessible, unswayed by machinations from either side - and definitely well-versed in law, history, politics - and - he is a champion of the people.
He has been 99% right about pretty much everything since I started listening to him.
Thank you for that thoughtful response.
I’m a fan of Barnes though I don’t follow him these days, for lack of time and his locals channel used to be behind a paywall, or so I thought.
Trump was his own worst enemy. I know he was betrayed, but that excuse only goes so far. He was extremely vocal about the issues with mail in ballots before the election, but did absolutely nothing about it except whine and complain. If he just would have behaved like DeSantis, he would have won in 2020, the volume was too loud and it was driving everyone crazy. He will not win even against Biden. He still talks up the vaccines and ridiculed Kemp for opening up too early.
DeSantis has been very effective as Governor, doesn’t talk much just does it. Doesn’t threaten this or that, just announces one day they are empaneling a grand jury, or introducing legislation for this or that. I do wonder about his foreign policy positions, but he seems to have a strong populist streak. Maybe he hasn’t said much about voter fraud, but FL created an office or something similar to investigate it and they changed the law in FL to make it harder to cheat.
All good points. I mostly agree. Sad to see what has happened. I was tracking all the committees, goals and boots-on-the-ground action Trump was taken when in the House. Epic. Despite dealing with a daily barrage of attacks and blocks.
What I liked most about his approach was - it seemed so obvious what to do - and so, just do it. The rest of them faff about giving each other a smell check and doing nothing - making promises - putting on displays of shock or commitment or whatever is the flavour of the day. And he was DOING things.
When he was blocked from Twitter, he was blocked from his best advisors: the People. So, he has become fuzzy around the edges or is double-dipping into things he thought worked - even if they did before, they don't now. So, he's out of touch.
Given a proper finger on the pulse he would be effective again. And his enemies (enemies of the people) know it. So, they are doing anything and everything to stop him. Has he missed the moment? Perhaps so. Quite a few people have grown beyond what he WAS offering - especially given the failures (whomever is to blame). But - if he jumped to the front of decency, common sense, relevant action, and that extra flair he has had for spicing things up for the scoundrels, I think people would join him again.
Barnes makes a point: if there is such an effort to take Trump down - it means they are afraid of him - and that means he poses a serious threat.
Meanwhile, and especially at this late stage, I see no one else. So, I'm hoping hoping hoping Trump gets clear headed.
So much to appreciate about De Santis. They seem like a good pairing. But, I trust Barnes's perspective, so I'm in wait-and-see mode. I think he's doing such a great job in Florida ... he ought to stay and keep evolving his successes there.
You can join the VivaBarnes locals at the free subscriber level and still benefit from plenty of content. My favourites are Sunday nights, where they both break down latest legal news and cases. As well, Bourbon with Barnes, which he does spontaneously on some evenings. He will do more of a deep dive into a current event/discussion, and he answers viewer questions.
(Disclaimer: I'm not associated.)
In full disclosure, I voted for Trump twice. The more that time goes on, the more I sour on Trump. He genuinely did some great things. I believe he would have been reelected again, if not for Covid, but even with Covid, had he just behaved similar to how DeSantis behaves, he would have also won reelection.
I think Barnes is right, the establishment is afraid of Trump.
But look, his enemies exploit his ego too easily. He cares too much about what NYT and WA Post reporters think about him. He doesn’t learn from his mistakes. And when the chips were down, he folded like a cheap suit and completely outsourced his presidency, supporting lockdowns and all of it. I bet you he would have went along with vax mandates if he thought it would have helped him.
Contrast Trump and DeSantis from 2020 until now and it’s blatantly obvious which person has shown more courage. The globalists, the elites, are pushing the vaccine mandates, the vax passports, transgender stuff, social credit; and DeSantis has firmly, vocally stood up to ALL OF IT. He doesn’t bloviate and threaten to do it, he passes legislation. He has even taken a stance against China. I haven’t seen any evidence whatsoever that he is a globalist. I think his foreign-policy views remain to be seen, I will state upfront there is no way I would vote for a neocon—the interventionist, foreign policy align completely with what the globalists/elites want. So far DeSantis has opposed them vigorously. DeSantis has spoken out against the “biomedical security state“.
I actually believe that DeSantis might be the biggest reason why the Biden administration did not institute or try to institute a country wide vaccine passport system. I believe the New York Times even reported that. DeSantis has practically been the shadow commander in chief of the country during the Biden administration. I believe things would have gotten a lot darker here in the United States had he not been governor of Florida.
I've been observing the same. Well said. Trump's ego is his strength and downfall. De Santis is a rockstar of straight talk. I'm still cautious though. Barnes identifies that De Santis has people around him of dubious intentions.
The world watches - because - up until 2020 - so much that happens in USA impacts the world. Since this debacle, people are realising - this is not democracy vs. communism or fascism - it's elitist oligarchs vs. the people.
We are seeing the beginnings of a dis-assembling of the current system. It's going to take a bit of mess-making to get through it - but I'm hopeful we will, and we will be more autonomous as individuals, and as nations.
I'm sad for Trump - for what we know he could have been. I'm sad for the true USA - for the unnecessary suffering. But, I'm excited to see so many moral warriors starting to realise what needs to be done ... and evolve ways to do it. If Trump gets on board with that (because at his core, I think that's been his goal the whole time) - then great. If not, we will work out how to do it anyway.
As example of a great warrior: Dr Paul Alexander!
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Dem talking points.
I agree on most things.
I don’t see DeSantis as trump VP though. DeSantis reminds me too much of Pence. Just a weak and untrustworthy, establishment Rino candidate.
I don’t believe DeSantis is anything like Pence, not in any way whatsoever. Pence is a weak man and gutless. DeSantis has shown plenty of courage and exerts his will. He won’t threaten, he just acts.
Biden and the Dems are trying to get DeSantis the nomination for a reason. He's easiest to beat than Trump and if they don't beat him he's controlled opposition anyway. He's just another Pence.
Guys, please understand that president means nothing. Look at Trump; the deep state took him out just like JFK; at least Trump still has his life.
DeSantis should stay where he is and help find more governors like him. We will have far more power in having 20-plus states with governors like DeSantis. The problem is DC; the whole apparatus is corrupt, and both parties are corrupt and take turns driving the country into the ground. They play tag teams with each other.
However, the states are a different animal, and the corruption from DC is further removed. You see, the further we move away from federalism, the closer we get to state power, precisely what the framers intended. We have allowed the Federal government to attain far too much power over the decades. This needs to change; the best way to do that is to control each state. This then becomes a tail waging the corrupted DC dog.
Ask yourselves this: what have we obtained each time we have had control of the executive branch? Very little. Trump kept Hillary out of the seat of power; he became a vital speed bump. But, he could not retain the position for more than one term. Additionally, he was distracted by one fake issue after another by the deep state to keep him occupied.
Then ask yourself the following: what if we had Trump and DeSantis clones in other states? Not only is this easier to control (election fraud notwithstanding), but the terms of the governorship are easier and cheaper to extend over time.
We are making a mistake by just focusing on the presidential elections. Sure, make an effort to get the right person in control of the executive branch and as many as possible in the legislative. But focusing mainly on the state powers will have a long-lasting effect without the pressure of the constant four year routine that usually has little impact.
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Trump 2024!
I'm with YOU....TRUMP 2024......
I would think if honorable he would sit out. Not sure if he will. Also there is the whole elections stolen all over the world now thing. :(
If “the powers that be” continue this travesty, we won’t have a country to vote in....😞
Those of you calling Trump a child, keep in mind when he makes a move, he’s at least 20 steps ahead of everyone. When he nick names someone, they are going down. Just watch him. Trump has the world believing he’s not too smart and immature. Why? So you always underestimate him. Boom!
Sharp reasoning Lisa!
Maybe the GOP should be a bit more like parties in other countries and start expelling representatives who support the agenda of rival parties. In most conservative parties in other countries, communists like Romney, Lindsey Graham, Kinzinger and Liz Cheneywould be shown the door. Unity is strength. Disunity is death. If DeSantis doesn't get on board with Trump's agenda on election fraud and the 2020 election result he's supporting the Dem agenda. He should be told to get with the program or f-ck off back to China. Biden has made the US the laughing stock of the world. When people in other countries think of Biden, they think of a dementia patient sniffing little girls, of drag queens in schools and of the US Supreme Court finding that the US constitution gives Americans a right to sodomy and gay marriage. In what other country did their founding fathers think it was vitally important to include a "right" to be sodomised and in what other country are drag queens encouraged to model behavior for children? Representatives of the GOP who support this agenda should be booted out.
The fascist/leftist dems are already counting the votes for 2024...The Dummy is in the lead by 50 million votes. No repub has a chance. DeSantis does well in Florida, but he will be like Trump and get no support from the repubs/RINO-tards once he is in the DC Swamp. He will be digested by the filthy gators that reside there.
Ron will do whatever his handlers tell him to do. He’s done a pretty good job in FL, I’d give him a B-. But he’s part of the establishment, how is this not totally obvious. BTW, Trump is in the swamp now too. Look who is surrounding him.
His handlers? Haha. He has already said he answers to nobody but the people he represents in his state! And his actions prove this!
Okay Boomer. I’m sure Ken Griffen gave him $5 million for no reason.
Renner the Disney dust up and the Reddy Creek issue? He did that as a media stunt, nothing is changing.
He’s a B- RINO.
What's NQ? You are generous for giving him a B. He answers to Xi, just like Mitch McTurtle. He's a cuck. One Trump is worth a thousand DeSanctimoniouses.
NQ is the NASDAQ 100 futures contract, which I trade along with a few other futures.
His B- is basically for not going bonkers with COVID, hiring a good Surgeon General and trolling. He is now pushing for Constitutional carry which should have been done in his first term along with some 2A protections like Missouri did.
He gets extra credit for not being a gay meth head or Charlie Crist.
I'm keeping an open mind on whether he is a gay meth head.
Do you live here? I highly doubt it.
Yes, I live in a very red part of Florida.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/02/09/hostile-takeover-of-project-veritas-seeking-to-remove-james-okeefe-desantis-aligned-operatives-spearheading-effort-for-removal/comment-page-4/#comment-9570331
I suggest having a look around this website, plenty of DeSantis receipts.
He answers to Xi.