went down? Would we be told vaccine status & if linked? Until we know this was not due to vaccine, that the pilot was not vaccinated, then like for Jamie FOXX & Damar Hamlin, we must conclude vaccine
Read an article by NBC & purposely watched the Today Show this morning (😵💫) to learn their take on it. The leftwing MSM seems to be stating that like in 1999 when golfer Payne Stewarts airplane’s cabin lost oxygen pressurization, that this scenario is the most likely cause. IMHO, it was a mid-air medical emergency, caused by the shot. The easiest way to confirm would be to ask the grieving family & owner of the Cessna, whether his daughter or the nanny texted that they had an emergency in flight, their pilot was unresponsive, etc. I haven’t read yet whether the Owner/Dad has stated that he was in communication with his daughter. With a sudden drop of altitude, if she was conscious, that would be scary & would cause anyone to wonder WTAF was happening. All I’ve read from the Dad/Owner is their family asking for privacy. Lastly, the owner could have mandated his pilot to take the vaxx. Hoping for his sake & the rest of the grieving family that it was insufficient oxygen. But I doubt it.
In the Payne STewart incident, the windows were all frosted over due to the loss of pressure. In this case the windows were clear as reported by the F16s and they clearly saw the pilot slumped over.
Base1Aransas has linked a very informative video below by an industry expert (his aviation podcast.) Specific points made by the expert/host: the Cessna jet leveled off at 23K feet, so the Pilot had to have been alive at that point. The last known way-point was programmed in and the autopilot will fly that existing heading. That heading is what the plane flew until the right engine lost fuel, started it’s descent, & when the plane couldn’t maintain its altitude, the auto-pilot disengaged, the plane then started its ultimate death spiral. The podcast host/expert theorizes that the passengers might not have known what was wrong until it started its big, steep right wing turn down, until it crashed. He said, as we can all imagine, the terror in that cabin would have been horrific.
Tragic 💉 consequences continue if was vaccine induced incapacitation. 😔
It has been confirmed that the fatal aircraft crash in Virginia on June 4 was a pilot incapacitation event. The single pilot on board was vaccinated. The FAA must be held accountable for their malfeasance!
Another possibility, is loss of Cabin pressure, Hypoxia can occur slowly thought processes are muddled,leaving little time to get Oxygen, fall asleep, never to wake-up, from what I read, the right engine was out of fuel.
In the prior incident of loss of pressure, the windows were frozen over and opaque. In this case, the windows were clear as the F16 reported seeing the pilot slumped over.
This is now highly likely a case of pilot incapacitation.
This case demands a solid coroner with energy looking for a common link between all deaths that does NOT include depressurization from the start. A comment below pointed out more info and counter information. Entire official 'conspiracy' appears as typical suppression, brush off; we can not believe anything except perhaps the sonic boom as that was reported by many obviously born after the 'boomer' generation. Boomers were sonic boomers, whatever.
If someone can come up with a political link a bit richer than an American supporter of Trump, that would work to link up planned deaths. Also we need to know if the Cessna jet has auto oxygen for depressurization.
Only four days until the purchase, sale, distribution or possession of ivermectin becomes a Federal crime. Being the most absolutely cheap and effective way to halt reproduction of all malignant viruses known to man, ivermectin must be eradicated from the United States of America.
Same thing, I presume, for hydroxychloraquine. So sayeth the Food and Drug Agency. "Death To America ! !"guy.
As others have noted, the Payne Stewart scenario is a more likely explanation, particularly given the nature of the craft. Seems to me all on board were somehow incapacitated simultaneously or someone would have tried to initiate control of the plane or mic. Please don’t be precipitous in making the most tenuous of connections on these types of incidents as they don’t enhance your credibility when it comes to Pilot health concerns (which I do agree with).
In that case, the windows were frozen over and they could not see inside the plane because the windows were all opaque when the moisture inside the airplane froze.
The window was clear in this case, because the F16s reported them as clear and they could clearly see the pilot slumped over in his seat.
The evidence does point to pilot incapacitation, as the aircraft flew on autopilot until it ran out of fuel with a clearly incapacitated pilot.
Now, the reason for the incapacitation will never be known for sure.
Which begs the question: what else was visible? Were the passengers similarly postured? Do you know? Until given legitimate answers to legitimate questions, I’ll stick with a Payne Stewart-type scenario in terms of speculative hierarchy as it at least provides a possible explanation for the lack of any intervening action on the part of his passengers. And even then I strongly assert the verdict is a long ways out in my book. But that was not the primary point of my comment (as I thought was made evident). It was cautioning against making sudden connections between events based upon the barest of details. It’s embarrassing to see people time and again attribute deaths to the vaccine (bio weapon) when the decedents had been battling cancer or some other ailment since 2010 and were in their 80’s. There’s enough damning evidence available elsewhere without conflating such with lesser candidates so as to dilute the credibility of the whole.
I do not know. But I know the lack of frozen windows likely rules out loss of pressure, so given the evidence at hand (an incapacitated pilot for sure), it's not likely there are too many other explanations for airplane malfunction to incapacitate the pilot.
There is plenty of evidence that the vaccine suppresses immune response, which would mean anyone who was fighting cancer would likely suffer significant regression, so having cancer doesn't rule out death by vaccine.
The clear increase of cancers, and heart and blood problems strongly correlated with vaccination across countries and time periods make it a prime suspect in many of these deaths now so the speculation is not without merit.
However, what we can say in this case is the pilot was almost certainly incapacitated and it wasn't likely due to loss of pressure, leaving some sort of health problem as the culprit.
We can say pretty confidently that speculating it was loss of pressure or similar to the Payne incident is not merited. The only similarity is that the plane flew on autopilot due to an incapacitated flight crew in both cases. The similarities end there.
I will spell it out for you: when I said a Payne Stewart scenario was a more likely explanation I meant that a unilaterally incapacitating event was a more likely explanation based upon optics. NOT that said event had to be cabin depressurization. Hell, some toxin might have been insinuated in the plane for ALL you or I know. At the considerable risk of repeating myself, this is the point: it’s asinine to conclude at this time it was a cardiac incident. Got it? If it had been, I would think some demonstrative initiative would have been taken by the passengers to mitigate the plane’s eventual crash, either by attempting control, initiating contact with authorities via mic, or making a call by phone. Your obsession with it being one scenario or another is irritating. I stand by my initial assertion: events such as these should not be immediately conflated with others as they diminish the credibility of those making such correlations once they’re refuted.
There is absolutely no evidence to imply that there was a unilateral incapacitating event at all. The optics are purely an artifact of reporting bias.
Toxins can insinuate planes (burning oil through bleed air etc) but they don't cause quick incapacitation without warning signs (smoke and smell) meaning the pilot would have called in an emergency and donned the proper equipment before becoming incapacitated.
What is asinine at this point is to assume a unilateral incapacitating event without evidence or precedent. Cardiac events among pilots are far more common since 2021 and therefore a far better assumption than the one you and the press decided to throw out there.
If the autopilot is flying how would the passengers have any idea the pilot was incapacitated? The autopilot flew the complete flight path including lining up for the runway. After it passed the airport marker, it simply maintained heading and altitude until it ran out of fuel. The passengers would have no idea there was anything wrong. There are very obvious plausible answers to the questions you are asking. Oh, and cell phones don't work from 34000 feet.
I am not obsessed at all. After examining the evidence, it seems highly likely this was a plane crash due to fuel exhaustion after the incapacitation of the single pilot. The single pilot incapacitation was likely due to health causes given zero indications of any problems with the plane and no evidence to suggest otherwise.
The irony here is that you complain about conflation of events, and yet you immediately proposed a scenario that conflated events (plane failure) that were contrary to the evidence.
No, the irony is that you double down on your lack of reading comprehension. I did not propose the Payne Stewart scenario as a SOLE alternative possibility, merely that it would be a more plausible explanation in the HIERARCHY of possibilities between the two ALREADY proposed by others given the optics involved. Also, I did not propose plane failure, you ignorant ass. I said toxins may have been insinuated into the plane - intentionally so - a consciously stretched hypothetical so as to illustrate the permutations of possibilities involved. Could cabin pressure heat have prevented the windows from frosting over? Did the presence of the fighter jet go unnoticed by those Cessna passengers presumed to be alert by you? NOTHING proposed by you or I are to the EXCLUSION of other possibilities. The PRUDENCE I advocated trumps any premature insistence that a vaccine -induced cardiac event precipitated the crash in the absence of further evidence. THAT was the point glaringly made. Are you really going to dispute that?
By willfully misreading my point, your idiocy is transparent. Think - THINK, if your faculty permits the imposition - about what I’m advocating. I’m asking for Alexander - who occasionally fulminates when he should educate - and George and you to be cautious before assigning blame on ANY matter, lest you find your credibility relegated to the levels of those who co-signed Jussie’s “assault”, claims of a fair election, and the legitimacy of the plandemic. It’s not “making excuses”, it’s advocating for a search for truth. Years ago I wrote a column decrying criticisms of Monday morning quarterbacking as examining problematic cop killings before all the facts were in could mitigate additional losses of lives. But I was also cautious in refocusing such practices away from what cops may have done wrong and instead couching things in “what if” scenarios as they simultaneously allowed for broader examinations of endemic threats. My posture herein is no different. By all means speculate and discuss the possibilities, but don’t instantly assign blame. The deaths of pilots incident to medical misadventure SANS vaccination predates 2021; it’s likewise been a plot point of books and movies. To suddenly decree that it was both a heart attack AND vaxx related at this point is asinine.
The FAA doesn’t even investigate pilots with medical issues on the planes. It’s true. Check out Steve Kirsch Substack, back in January. Unreal accounts of pilots having strokes, heart attacks, etc., and FAA didn’t reach out to these pilots. Not one time. 😳
Read an article by NBC & purposely watched the Today Show this morning (😵💫) to learn their take on it. The leftwing MSM seems to be stating that like in 1999 when golfer Payne Stewarts airplane’s cabin lost oxygen pressurization, that this scenario is the most likely cause. IMHO, it was a mid-air medical emergency, caused by the shot. The easiest way to confirm would be to ask the grieving family & owner of the Cessna, whether his daughter or the nanny texted that they had an emergency in flight, their pilot was unresponsive, etc. I haven’t read yet whether the Owner/Dad has stated that he was in communication with his daughter. With a sudden drop of altitude, if she was conscious, that would be scary & would cause anyone to wonder WTAF was happening. All I’ve read from the Dad/Owner is their family asking for privacy. Lastly, the owner could have mandated his pilot to take the vaxx. Hoping for his sake & the rest of the grieving family that it was insufficient oxygen. But I doubt it.
In the Payne STewart incident, the windows were all frosted over due to the loss of pressure. In this case the windows were clear as reported by the F16s and they clearly saw the pilot slumped over.
NBC needs to do better than that.
NBC do a better job? That’s funny. 😂
Go and read George Webb's Substack: Oliver North's Iran Contra Jet Just Crashed..
Barbara Hempel states in that Substack that she has NO daughters. There is more
to this crash than is being told. John and Barbara Rumpel are Big Trump and NRA
supporters.
To correct: Their last name is Rumpel.
Ohhhhh, okay. NOW, its making sense!
Let me know what you think :-)
First of all it wasn't even flying at an altitude requiring the cabin to be pressurized was it? It was a Cessna for God's sake.
Base1Aransas has linked a very informative video below by an industry expert (his aviation podcast.) Specific points made by the expert/host: the Cessna jet leveled off at 23K feet, so the Pilot had to have been alive at that point. The last known way-point was programmed in and the autopilot will fly that existing heading. That heading is what the plane flew until the right engine lost fuel, started it’s descent, & when the plane couldn’t maintain its altitude, the auto-pilot disengaged, the plane then started its ultimate death spiral. The podcast host/expert theorizes that the passengers might not have known what was wrong until it started its big, steep right wing turn down, until it crashed. He said, as we can all imagine, the terror in that cabin would have been horrific.
Tragic 💉 consequences continue if was vaccine induced incapacitation. 😔
Agree!
It has been confirmed that the fatal aircraft crash in Virginia on June 4 was a pilot incapacitation event. The single pilot on board was vaccinated. The FAA must be held accountable for their malfeasance!
https://twitter.com/JoshYoder/status/1666176866204504064
If it is discovered the shots killed the pilot, then the entity that mandated the pilot take the shot has murdered the pilot AND THE PASSENGERS.
FAA……
https://twitter.com/JoshYoder/status/1666176866204504064
I believe I read an account of the pilot of the F-16 reporting seeing the pilot hunched over in the cockpit.
We will know the cause of the crash by when -or whether - the FAA releases a report.
If it is quietly buried, as I suspect it will be, make your own conclusions!
Another possibility, is loss of Cabin pressure, Hypoxia can occur slowly thought processes are muddled,leaving little time to get Oxygen, fall asleep, never to wake-up, from what I read, the right engine was out of fuel.
In the prior incident of loss of pressure, the windows were frozen over and opaque. In this case, the windows were clear as the F16 reported seeing the pilot slumped over.
This is now highly likely a case of pilot incapacitation.
No, pilots just accidentally die and planes fall from the sky.
Keep discussing statistics instead of how to end this organized murder.
It's been ruled out.
https://twitter.com/JoshYoder/status/1666176866204504064
I’ve been checking Josh Yoder’s Twitter account but missed this announcement. Thank you for the heads up!
I wasn't following him but saw it retweeted and was very impressed by his clear, to the point presentation and command of Facts. Following now.
This case demands a solid coroner with energy looking for a common link between all deaths that does NOT include depressurization from the start. A comment below pointed out more info and counter information. Entire official 'conspiracy' appears as typical suppression, brush off; we can not believe anything except perhaps the sonic boom as that was reported by many obviously born after the 'boomer' generation. Boomers were sonic boomers, whatever.
If someone can come up with a political link a bit richer than an American supporter of Trump, that would work to link up planned deaths. Also we need to know if the Cessna jet has auto oxygen for depressurization.
Besides the vaccine and hypoxia, two other potential causes, are that the beer served on the plane was Bud Light, or white supremacy.
lol
100% agree!
Almost no question about it. Almost…
How long would it take until many one-pilot airplanes fall due to COVID-shot killing the pilot?
And long distance buses?
Why do authorities prefer to risk the lives of all passengers instead of recognizing that we've got a big fat heart-clot problem?
Is it all part of the depopulation plan by murder?
16 laws we need to exit Prison Planet
Politics got us in, politics is the way out ... after prayers!
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/laws-to-exit-planet-prison
Only four days until the purchase, sale, distribution or possession of ivermectin becomes a Federal crime. Being the most absolutely cheap and effective way to halt reproduction of all malignant viruses known to man, ivermectin must be eradicated from the United States of America.
Same thing, I presume, for hydroxychloraquine. So sayeth the Food and Drug Agency. "Death To America ! !"guy.
Go to www.anamihalceamdphd@substack.com as she has data about Nano Technoligy in the Covid Jabs. Interacting with the 5G cell towers
As others have noted, the Payne Stewart scenario is a more likely explanation, particularly given the nature of the craft. Seems to me all on board were somehow incapacitated simultaneously or someone would have tried to initiate control of the plane or mic. Please don’t be precipitous in making the most tenuous of connections on these types of incidents as they don’t enhance your credibility when it comes to Pilot health concerns (which I do agree with).
In that case, the windows were frozen over and they could not see inside the plane because the windows were all opaque when the moisture inside the airplane froze.
The window was clear in this case, because the F16s reported them as clear and they could clearly see the pilot slumped over in his seat.
The evidence does point to pilot incapacitation, as the aircraft flew on autopilot until it ran out of fuel with a clearly incapacitated pilot.
Now, the reason for the incapacitation will never be known for sure.
Which begs the question: what else was visible? Were the passengers similarly postured? Do you know? Until given legitimate answers to legitimate questions, I’ll stick with a Payne Stewart-type scenario in terms of speculative hierarchy as it at least provides a possible explanation for the lack of any intervening action on the part of his passengers. And even then I strongly assert the verdict is a long ways out in my book. But that was not the primary point of my comment (as I thought was made evident). It was cautioning against making sudden connections between events based upon the barest of details. It’s embarrassing to see people time and again attribute deaths to the vaccine (bio weapon) when the decedents had been battling cancer or some other ailment since 2010 and were in their 80’s. There’s enough damning evidence available elsewhere without conflating such with lesser candidates so as to dilute the credibility of the whole.
I do not know. But I know the lack of frozen windows likely rules out loss of pressure, so given the evidence at hand (an incapacitated pilot for sure), it's not likely there are too many other explanations for airplane malfunction to incapacitate the pilot.
There is plenty of evidence that the vaccine suppresses immune response, which would mean anyone who was fighting cancer would likely suffer significant regression, so having cancer doesn't rule out death by vaccine.
The clear increase of cancers, and heart and blood problems strongly correlated with vaccination across countries and time periods make it a prime suspect in many of these deaths now so the speculation is not without merit.
However, what we can say in this case is the pilot was almost certainly incapacitated and it wasn't likely due to loss of pressure, leaving some sort of health problem as the culprit.
I won’t bifurcate my reply, just refer you to that consolidating the matters in dispute.
We can say pretty confidently that speculating it was loss of pressure or similar to the Payne incident is not merited. The only similarity is that the plane flew on autopilot due to an incapacitated flight crew in both cases. The similarities end there.
I will spell it out for you: when I said a Payne Stewart scenario was a more likely explanation I meant that a unilaterally incapacitating event was a more likely explanation based upon optics. NOT that said event had to be cabin depressurization. Hell, some toxin might have been insinuated in the plane for ALL you or I know. At the considerable risk of repeating myself, this is the point: it’s asinine to conclude at this time it was a cardiac incident. Got it? If it had been, I would think some demonstrative initiative would have been taken by the passengers to mitigate the plane’s eventual crash, either by attempting control, initiating contact with authorities via mic, or making a call by phone. Your obsession with it being one scenario or another is irritating. I stand by my initial assertion: events such as these should not be immediately conflated with others as they diminish the credibility of those making such correlations once they’re refuted.
There is absolutely no evidence to imply that there was a unilateral incapacitating event at all. The optics are purely an artifact of reporting bias.
Toxins can insinuate planes (burning oil through bleed air etc) but they don't cause quick incapacitation without warning signs (smoke and smell) meaning the pilot would have called in an emergency and donned the proper equipment before becoming incapacitated.
What is asinine at this point is to assume a unilateral incapacitating event without evidence or precedent. Cardiac events among pilots are far more common since 2021 and therefore a far better assumption than the one you and the press decided to throw out there.
If the autopilot is flying how would the passengers have any idea the pilot was incapacitated? The autopilot flew the complete flight path including lining up for the runway. After it passed the airport marker, it simply maintained heading and altitude until it ran out of fuel. The passengers would have no idea there was anything wrong. There are very obvious plausible answers to the questions you are asking. Oh, and cell phones don't work from 34000 feet.
I am not obsessed at all. After examining the evidence, it seems highly likely this was a plane crash due to fuel exhaustion after the incapacitation of the single pilot. The single pilot incapacitation was likely due to health causes given zero indications of any problems with the plane and no evidence to suggest otherwise.
The irony here is that you complain about conflation of events, and yet you immediately proposed a scenario that conflated events (plane failure) that were contrary to the evidence.
Got it?
Wel done, George.
No, the irony is that you double down on your lack of reading comprehension. I did not propose the Payne Stewart scenario as a SOLE alternative possibility, merely that it would be a more plausible explanation in the HIERARCHY of possibilities between the two ALREADY proposed by others given the optics involved. Also, I did not propose plane failure, you ignorant ass. I said toxins may have been insinuated into the plane - intentionally so - a consciously stretched hypothetical so as to illustrate the permutations of possibilities involved. Could cabin pressure heat have prevented the windows from frosting over? Did the presence of the fighter jet go unnoticed by those Cessna passengers presumed to be alert by you? NOTHING proposed by you or I are to the EXCLUSION of other possibilities. The PRUDENCE I advocated trumps any premature insistence that a vaccine -induced cardiac event precipitated the crash in the absence of further evidence. THAT was the point glaringly made. Are you really going to dispute that?
smh
By making excuses for anything but the vaccine some people make it obvious who and what they are.
By willfully misreading my point, your idiocy is transparent. Think - THINK, if your faculty permits the imposition - about what I’m advocating. I’m asking for Alexander - who occasionally fulminates when he should educate - and George and you to be cautious before assigning blame on ANY matter, lest you find your credibility relegated to the levels of those who co-signed Jussie’s “assault”, claims of a fair election, and the legitimacy of the plandemic. It’s not “making excuses”, it’s advocating for a search for truth. Years ago I wrote a column decrying criticisms of Monday morning quarterbacking as examining problematic cop killings before all the facts were in could mitigate additional losses of lives. But I was also cautious in refocusing such practices away from what cops may have done wrong and instead couching things in “what if” scenarios as they simultaneously allowed for broader examinations of endemic threats. My posture herein is no different. By all means speculate and discuss the possibilities, but don’t instantly assign blame. The deaths of pilots incident to medical misadventure SANS vaccination predates 2021; it’s likewise been a plot point of books and movies. To suddenly decree that it was both a heart attack AND vaxx related at this point is asinine.
WE WILL NEVER HAVE PEACE ON EARTH UNTIL WE THE UNITED REMOVE THE EVIL DECEPTICONS. UNITH WITH GOD AND LIKE MINDED
How many plane crashes have happened since the mandates. Does anyone have any data on that?
The FAA doesn’t even investigate pilots with medical issues on the planes. It’s true. Check out Steve Kirsch Substack, back in January. Unreal accounts of pilots having strokes, heart attacks, etc., and FAA didn’t reach out to these pilots. Not one time. 😳