Dr. Katalin Karikó & Dr. Robert Malone, who is telling the truth? The Atlantic piece below raises many troubling questions I am hoping Malone provides details on; they reside at the very core of mRNA
Dr. Katalin Karikó & Dr. Robert Malone, who is telling the truth? The Atlantic piece below raises many troubling questions I am hoping Malone provides details on; they reside at the very core of mRNA
technology; the call out (as I know they religiously read this substack) is for the COVID Freedom Fighter media to properly interview Malone & get his responses to these to provide clarity
Neither have I, Edward. But Atlantic articles are widely quoted and disseminated in the mainstream press as if they merit attention, so they need to be addressed by those seeking to establish the truthful record.
We're not as simple-minded as media wants us to be. You don't believe any sources. You believe your gut instinct at the end of the day. The most effective lies are 90% true. You can trust the true parts are true. You can do your due diligence to get to the truth of the matter at hand. no source is trustworthy 100%.
Dr. Daniel Nagase was a good source warning us about reverse transcription. Then Dr. Daniel Nagase doubted himself because he was told lies by Dr. Robert Malone. https://rumble.com/v2fjsqm-wainright-ab.html
Dr. Malone's role in the psyop is already completed. He convinced many, by LIES, that the shots were safe early on. That was his role. Then he attacked Dr. Breggin and his wife over nothing with a $25 million lawsuit. And he denied what he undoubtedly knew to be true -- that there is ample evidence the mRNA could write itself into DNA. He lied about that. To the public.
I am quite sure I heard Dr. Malone say there was a paper, scientific evidence that the mRNA can reverse transcribe in an animal model. I believe he said that after he came back from a conference in Rome so unless I am remembering this wrongly, I think he did state it as fact a while ago. I met him in Dec. 2021 and I think it was around this time frame.
He says everything right. And when it counted, he misled. When he warned Dr. Nagasaki about talking about reverse transcription he misled. And I think Dr. Nagasaki is right to point to the minutes Dr. Malone spent away from the Zoom call before returning with the crafted answer that stopped Dr. Nagasaki from mentioning reverse transcription.
Yeah, I follow him on Telegram. He constantly tries to meme and make himself the center of attention and to stay relevant to the crowd. The last post I read from his was something about transgender something. That's his schtick. On the topics of covid, though -- everything he says is right now. I wouldn't be surprised if he was talking about reverse transcription from the shots now. It's when it counted that he silenced the truth. Back then, when the time was at hand, he misled. It can only be on purpose, especially regarding the reverse transcription topic, because the topic is so well-known and it's obvious the shots have the potential to write themselves into DNA. Malone was always present to steer the conversation. By training, it seems.
Is there a way to see the actual zoom call that is being referred to? I would find that interesting to watch. No doubt that Dr. Malone seems to be enjoying the attention and lime light. Back when I met him, he was just becoming known, it was before Rogan and I thought he was pretty quiet and reserved and unwell and tired. I was afraid that he'd retreat back into the shadows because there was no way that he could speak out without becoming the target of severe attacks to come. I knew they would double and triple down on him because of his unique position as a researcher, vaccine developer and mRNA early tech inventor. He said he suffered a nervous breakdown in his early days in the lab under the political stress of it regarding the patents. Why anyone would want to put themselves in the line of fire like this, having suffered that in the past when he had a very nice life now was beyond me except for why he said he was doing it, for the children's sake. That was the hill he would die on he said. Is it possible that that is really his truth still? Or was that a lie and he's doing it for who, for what?! I hear what a lot of people on here are saying about him and have followed some of it down but I still can't come to believe the why is that he's government to the core above all. He would have to be a cold-hearted sociopath to pull that off. I can't get there.
I can think of many reasons someone in Malone's position might go ahead and work to intentionally disrupt the movement. In fact, it would be extraordinarily curious if someone WEREN'T there to disrupt -- and I do mean a government / intel agent, given the DoD's involvement in the covid response. If Malone isn't disrupting, then who is? Because you know that's about the first rule. Intel ALWAYS has someone inside these movements. ALWAYS. Otherwise they wouldn't be intel. Right now, I just read a random headline, probably from a Highwire video title actually, asking whether or not anti-vaxxers are the largest voting block in America. I didn't look closely at the question but I do find it an intriguing one and I guarantee you, friend, so does the CIA.
I don't really care to speculate about Malone's possible motives, although the idea that the mRNA platform -- that he invented, or whatever -- becomes the standard new vaccine platform worldwide certainly opens up some juicy speculation, as do many other points -- but it gets us nowhere really to speculate. What if we can't discern his motive? So what? Right? How would that matter? If he's still doing it regardless. And people's motives are like that. That's why the LAST place I look, almost always, is at peoples motives in doing things. I don't know the motive of the fruit tree, but I do know it's fruit.
Thank you for the link. I will look at it. If I go with the idea that he’s a disruptor I still don’t see what damage he is causing. He has brought a huge audience to question what has happened which I cannot think the powers running the show are thrilled with so how is that beneficial to them? I guess I just don’t see it.
Dr. Katalin Karikó & Dr. Robert Malone, who is telling the truth?
Easy answer. Who was and is glorified for the Covid/Wuhan mRNA gene therapy by the the mains stream media and the big pharma? Hint... hint... Dr. Katalin Kariko. Who was silenced? Dr. Robert Malone. To whom do I not trust? Dr. Karalin Kariko.
"Who was and is glorified for the Covid/Wuhan mRNA gene therapy by the the mains stream media and the big pharma?"
Are you sure about your answer to this? Dr. Robert Malone claimed for months and months and MONTHS -- EVEN ON THE JOE ROGAN PODCAST -- that the shots saved old people. I mean, he may not have said that directly, but one thing he said on the podcast -- I remember defending him on the point -- was that he "may have to rethink" if the shots are good for anyone at all -- implying, of course, that he was still recommending the shots to old people. The death shots. That kill old people.
Then, right now I'm watching Dr. Daniel Nagase describe how Dr. Robert Malone shut him down during a Zoom call on the topic of reverse transcription from the shots. That stopped Dr. Nagase from talking about reverse transcription in public for about 4 months. Here is Dr. Nagase describing what happened:
That's how psyops works. Go to Dr. Malone's Telegram channel. It's pure gospel. Pure. His job is done, except to destroy the Breggins for -- criticizing his stupid take on -- what was it? -- crowd psychology? Is Malone a crowd psychologist?
Ah! Have we stumbled on the truth through blind interlocution? I think Dr. Malone IS INDEED WELL-TRAINED in public psychology and crowd psychology. That's what the CIA does.
But, back to the point about how psyops work -- they work with temporal impact. Get it? It doesn't matter what happens now. His lies worked THEN. That's all that matters. That's how conspiracies work. IT DOESN'T MATTER if "they're always found out." If they're "found out" -- hey, buddy -- you know what that means? IT MEANS THEY WORKED.
Malone is scum. I get angry every time I start writing about it. I defended him baselessly, too. I thought a quick Google News search would show his name come up in the 80's, or the 90's, or whenever, and it don't. No one ever said anything about this little turd having anything to do with mRNA technology except for him and the CIA -- er, his wife, or whatever.
Can you give us any facts? Early on Dr. Malone warned the entire world "Do not take the Vaccine" because they knew only 3% about the gene therapy's behaviour but and 97% unknown. So big thanks to him because he saved many lives! You are attacking the wrong person. You are saying that Dr. Malone implied that the shots might saved old people... Who cares? Just recently one doctor, on World Council For Health, said the same thing that the gene therapy might have saved old people and even recommended it. It just happened recently. Do I attack him for that? No. I Still I respect him. I have to add that Later on he corrected his statement. Most of the doctors have been saying the same thing, if you do not believe you can look it up,. I have been following what is going for the past 3 years and many doctors among us recommended the covid gene therapy to older people. You would be very surprised about the long list. Why people are cherry picking and attacking only one person when Dr. Robert Malone clearly said, over a year ago, do not take the mRNA vaccine and his message resonated around the world. While on the other side Dr. Katalin Kariko was promoting the gene therapy on steroids. I have been following multiple doctors since the beginning of COVID19 (2019 - 2023) and there are very few doctors with clean track and solid record like Dr. Robert Malone. I must say Big thank you to Dr. Robert Malone for his excellent and supportive testimony, yesterday, on the NCI -National Citizens Inquiry (NCI) NCI Toronto Day 2, Ontario, Canada. IMO and based on my research Dr. Malone is the greatest asset for the freedom loving people to drain the swamp. So please do not attack him instead support and use him. That is what I do. Yes, I also know Dr. Paul Alexander who once asked me on the Niagara Bridge if he makes a difference. I said to him yes me makes a huge difference but that time he attacked the right people. It is very painful to watch for me when evil is doing a great job in the freedom movement. So please have critical thinking and do not trust anybody. Let them gain you trust. So far Dr. Malone has my trust. Yes, I know abut his contracts, I know Dr. Malone's and his wife's history. IMO Dr. Robert Malone and his wife are doing the right thing... so please leave them alone.
Not very convincing argument! On the other hand when one follows all of the expositions of Dr. David Martin he presents himself as not only highly intelligent and scholarly but extremely open and transparent ; in fact, he has never had to retract a single statement he has ever made and when challenged by "fact-checkers" or anyone else he responds with evidence-based facts and data that is irrefutable; he actually invites questions and challenges as they assist in his efforts to get the truth out to more and more people; indeed, he hopes, in many cases, that he could be proven wrong about much of what he has knowledge of and exposed but expresses despair that what he continues to discover has been and is much worse than any of us could have imagined; David Martin is deserving of a much wider audience but that won't likely happen because he digs deeper in search of the truth than anyone else...and that frightens not only all those who want to remain hidden but also those of us still living in ignorance and denial and unable to face terrible truths.
Are you saying that David Martin has evidence against Dr. Malone? I listened a whole lot to David Martin the last couple years and I don't recall him disparaging or raising questions about him. I agree that he has offered a whole lot of insight, especially the patent information.
Gabriel has no facts, only accusations based on very weak evidence. You, on the other hand, mount a reasoned, rational argument. That is not going to sit well with her.
You are mistaken when you assume that he is right over my head. I do not trust anybody I only trust facts and during the past 2.5 years he did not do anything wrong. Dr. Robert Malone is one of the most valuable person any freedom movement can get. Each time he speakes I cross check him against different sources and he is credible. Yes, many people see only half of the picture and they never research the entire truth. He explained his entire life and people still picking on him because of their lack knowledge about his work what he did.
Show us hard evidence, publication and date, that you had better cost/benefit by age data than Malone did, before he did, or at least at the same time.
If you can't do that then you are a hypocrite. Show us your data.
Stop shilling for Kariko. She tried to deflect blame on to Malone to cover her own ass.
These jabs she created have taken countless lives!!!!!
I watched Malone the whole time. He pushed the shots at first -- when it mattered. He denied reverse transcription at first -- don't know if he still does -- and publicly shamed others for speaking about the topic -- at first, when it mattered.
Just look at what he did.
And also, what kind of feeling do you get from him? Be honest. Especially if you knew of him from early on. He was a disruptor, is taking undue credit, has CIA ties, and is probably on the payroll of the agency, imho.
Will Doctors Kariko and Malone sue each other? Kariko may be on adequate scientific level to discuss mrna disputes in the court against Malone . But Malone lost all my previous trust in him because he sued those scientifically lower level doctors like Ruby or Breggin for criticizing him ("defaming"). I have also stopped believing he took a jab. He surely knew it was experimental, highly toxic and dangerous. He was spouting all the time he took it in order to buy credibility with the public. Atlantic writes those articles in order to distract us from logical and factual thinking. I have strong sense that Malone is hiding a lot of inconvenient for him facts from his career.
Can you post a link to prove this please because during the past 3 years Dr. Malone never ever promoted the mRNA gene therapy: "He was spouting all the time he took it in order to buy credibility with the public" . thank you.
OMG!!!! YOU CANNOT really trust Google at this point with all the evidence that shows they are controlling us, what we see in searches, how it's framed?! PLEASE. When Malone got mainstream press from being on Rogan, they scrubbed his info. Wiki got rid of his accomplishments. Think how quickly the Pfizer doctor who was exposed by James O'Keef had all his information sanitized within hours of the videos release. You cannot look to Google as a valid way to boost your claim. Further, there are good doctors in this fight who still defend Malone so what do you say about them? Are they scum too? I don't think we should be so quick to judge here. The truth is seldom this or that, good or bad. Live in the grey a bit longer. This is far too complex for rash judgements.
That's the difference between you and a lot of people, such as his readers. Malone does not like criminals. I respect him for opening himself up to discovery and to questioning and to having to give answers under penalty of perjury. If no crime of criminal defamation has been committed against him then he will lose and will have to pay the Breggins' costs.
Lawsuits are always risky. I think he did it to shut them up, thus the outrageous amount. Still there is the court of public opinion and that is where Malone is coming off as the bad guy imo.
Sources of bias in observational studies of covid-19 vaccine effectiveness
"Our article [provides] examples based on actual data sets that quantify how case-counting window bias, age bias, and background infection rate bias can profoundly complicate the analysis of observational studies, shifting covid-19 vaccine effectiveness estimates by an absolute magnitude as high as 50% to 70%."
The shots killed old people. Then their deaths were covered up -- blamed on natural causes, on inherited heart defects, and, of course, on a highly unreliable pcr test showing the presence of sars-cov2 virus, which we all ham-handedly started calling "covid," partially because the CDC and everyone else was as well.
I have no time for this bullshit, friend. An old friend of mine is in the hospital right now. Classic vaccine injury story. She just spent a day doing another test to no avail -- A DAY LONG TEST regarding her genetic heart condition. If she died, they would probably have blamed her heart condition. Not the shot. But now that she's had this test -- along with the test of her heart working fine her whole life, which is how genetic heart defects usually work -- they know it's not from that. Her mysterious health condition is from something else. She's as baffled as her doctors are.
The real issue is Moderna’s central role in creating the mRNA injections for pushing humanity to accept this as a new form of healthcare treatment. A deep dive into moderna is called for.
Whitney Web did an excellent video on Moderna, their background, history of Steve B. being a salesman, first and foremost. That fact that Moderna never successfully brought a product to market and that their chief scientific officers left very quickly and often. Also, they were not doing well with the mRNA injections with cancer and needed some other thing they could be used for making vaccines the perfect new place to look. It was known that the mRNA was problematic for REPEATED use so a couple vaccines might make it under the radar avoiding detection. Her reporting is always very enlightening.
The "deep dive" has already been done by Dr. David Martin; Martin reveals the clear-cut evidence that Moderna paid NIAID $400 million dollars for a royalty license in exchange for royalties on FUTURE COVID-19 VACCINE SALES; such criminal acts were and and are at the heart of the racketeering and conspiracy to profit from "vaccine" development BEFORE there was any real pathogenic threat identified!
One thing I know for sure... I don't trust anything published in The Atlantic. I also know that Dr. Malone was listed as the primary developer of mRNA technology by Wikipedia until after he began speaking out against the Covid shots. That was removed shortly afterwards, with the propagandists then claiming Katalin Karikó was the person who developed the technology. Indeed, it was pushed as a feminist talking point... the new "vaccine" technology was developed by a woman! At the time, I joked that if you want to con people into trusting a new movement or technology, you put the face of a woman on it.
Isn't she the person who incorporated the dangerous pseudouridine into the mRNA? Yeah, she is. Wouldn't believe a thing she says. She's one of the killers.
for sure all linked to mRNA and the LNP complex and shot have brought us death. It boggles my mind what they did. was this pure money? fame? God complex?
I wouldn't go that far. For clarity, I haven't looked that closely at her, and what she's said about the shots. But I do know the research into pseudouridine was ongoing before she and the other guy did their bit with it. If she's out there pushing the shots, then f her. In fact, I don't really care about her. It sounds like she did basic scientific work that led to an advancement. It's not a matter of "her or Malone." It's a matter of the truth. Duh.
And speaking of truth -- that's what she and her coworker came across a bit of. Like Einstein did. And boom.
You are a blunt voice of reason and are a singular voice of integrity. I respect you. But I would be highly suspect of Kariko if I were you. Malone too for his past connection and current litigious spree. I’m mostly having trouble with the latter not the former. I am watching him closely. Kariko works directly for the Pharma industry as a VP. Her conflicts of interest are legion IMO.
Katalin Karikó certainly profited from these shots. She got the Solvay prize(€300,000 prize), the Horwitz prize, the Pearl Meister Greengard Prize (The prize, which includes a $100,000 honorarium), the Princess of Asturias Award etc. etc. She even expected to win the Nobel prize in medicine or chemistry.
Has anyone ever heard Katalin Karikó saying that the mRNA shots are not safe and effective because I haven’t.
And we shouldn't trust you either. Your tricky attempt at whataboutism won''t wash! You are deflecting ballme away from Kariko. As Gabby has been saying repeatedly to you wilfully blind and deaf sheep, Kariko's fingerprints are all over this. Sorry but she doesn't get a pass. You belong at Nuremberg 2 alongside her!
Wow. You’re weird. Read what I said. I did no such thing. You’re just all-in on Malone obviously. At the risk of being redundant I do not trust either of them equally. Get it? Now get a clue!
Malone doesn't say anything that I pay attention to because he usually stays on his substack, where those of us who can't afford to buy our comments onto it are excluded from participation.
Thank you for keeping the comments free on this substack.
It would be nice to have some knowledgeable laypeople explain some of the highly technical content here, FWIW.
Dr Death Jab herself. The hero of the haters on this echo chamber. Watch them rush to defend her while performing mental gymnastics to try to hide that the whole time they have been giving her a pass.
Scientists don't need a pass to do science. Regarding the mRNA technology, as far as I can tell, that's all she did -- some science.
Also, heavens but this is getting tiresome. We deal with facts, not people. Attack the facts, not the person. Does it hit harder if I say that in Latin?
Isn't she responsible for saying she found a way to make the mRNA stable so it could be used effectively? Shouldn't she have known that the mRNA doesn't degrade quickly at all even though we were told it does? Why isn't she being called out for not disclosing that? Certainly she should have known that or cared to.
google scholar lists her credited publications through the years. so the pseudouridine, the LNP’s, it tracks back to her.
she is widely credited with inserting the mRNA into a cell without it destroying the cell.
another of her publications deals with getting the mRNA to evade the immune system (which would make it last longer, if the body isn’t seeking it out and eliminating it).
fact. doctors are baffled at the unexplained excess morbidity and mortality.
fact. Kariko worked on the covid-19 vaccines. is senior VP of one of the companies involved. and is also leasing her patents to both companies involved in the production of covid-19 mRNA vaccines.
I appreciate the stuff you're saying. Yeah they had to hire like 2,000 people to keep track of the harms reports. I know. Same deal with the Australian vaccine reporting system, I think it was. They had to increase their staff by like 20 times, from 4 to 80.
i’m not aware that Einstein developed, licensed patents for, headed up a company that produced, was awarded countless medals and awards for his work on, or profited financially or professionally from any vaccines.
could you be more specific about the Einstein jabs you’re referring to?
I'm watching Dr. Nagase right now talking about the time Dr. Robert Malone disappeared from the Zoom call for 10 when Dr. Nagase brought up the reverse transcription effect potential of the shots, only to reappear with slick talking points -- lies -- that convinced Dr. Nagase to stop talking about reverse transcription for a period of about 4 months.
He lied about the shots for a few months and got TONS of people to take them.
The bigger problem is the woman who actually develoed the jabs. Stop making excuses for the main perpetrator and trying to deflect blame! I see a little shithead I don't like. Neither you nor your precious feminist iconn gets a pass
The truth is what's important. The bankers wrote the Federal Reserve Act, which gave the private bank control over US money. Then to get it passed they railed against it in the press.
It's easy to mold people. We are subject to the best molders on Earth.
In short, they can both be scum, he and her. It doesn't matter one bit. That won't change your DNA. But they both -- he and her -- probably knew the shots do.
You say you want the truth but do you? I doubt it. Malone is opening himself up to discovery and to questioning and to having to give answers under penalty of perjury. The transcript of wuestions and answers will be able to be evaluated for scientific merit, or lack thereof. Additionaly, if no crime of criminal defamation has been committed against him then he will lose and will have to pay the defendanrs' costs. There's a huge difference in integrity between you and Malone. Malone's arguments are not governed by sophistry and emotional reasoning.
Malone's arguments supported the shots and detracted from their detractors. Then he sued the Breggins for $25 million. That's not how you unite against a global enemy. That's how you stop the movement that is uniting against that enemy. This ain't sophistry. This is very plain-spoken -- in fact it's looping at this point because I'm repeating my three main charges against him over and over because somehow it seems I'm not getting through.
didn’t the Breggins cause this by repeatedly defaming and libelling Malone (and Desmet) first, without being willing to have any interaction, discourse, communication, interview, questioning or other form of civil debate?
from my perspective the Breggins kinda seem like the bullies in this situation, and in classic form, bullies often claim to be the victims to excuse their bullying behaviour.
i personally think there’s professional jealousy and ego at play. i imagine book sales written by psychiatrists analyzing the landscape before is has something to do with it. but that’s just a guess.
at any rate, i don’t see how slandering fellow freedom fighters strengthens the movement’s unity against the global enemy.
both parties are guilty of fracturing. one began the process. the other is attempting to finish it.
i don’t think so much attention should be given to it because it’s like a poison infecting nearby tissue.
If AwakeNotWoke wants to attack those of us who are on his or her side for no reason then he/she needs to go elsewhere. That type of insulting diatribe is not acceptible. I do not believe in censorship but his/her comments will be completely ignored by me from now on.
Here's how your side attacks me, Laura J. Actual quotes:
I'd wish the same on you, but I'm a giant fucking pussy who hides behind studies and stuff and I need to have my shitty fucking family murdered in front of my face.
You should be commended for getting your face smashed in with a bat.
I hope that you get assaulted today and beaten into a coma.
I'd wish the same on you, but I'm a giant fucking pussy who hides behind studies and stuff and I need to have my shitty fucking family murdered in front of my face.
Enjoy getting your head caved in with an anvil.
Enjoy getting assaulted and having your face smashed into bits, Cunt.
Is this reasonable? I'd like to smash your fucking face in with a bat? And then kick you in the liver until you vomit blood.
I would smash your fucking face into the curb, you fucking little bitch. After you are done licking out Bob Malone's asshole do you let Jill fuck you up the ass?
Hey Bob Malone needs you to come over and clean the shit out of Jill's ass, can you make it by noon?
You stupid fucking cunt. your whore mother should have aborted you. Now get over there and get busy letting Bob Malone fuck you up the ass.
You have cancer of the liver. Bitch ass pussy.
It's reminiscent of Saul/Paul and me letting Bob fuck me up the ass and then sucking my shit off his dick.
Not for no reason Laura j. There's good reason. Defending Kariko by omission, by deflecting blame just shows your culpability and complicity. You belong at Nuremberg 2 alongside this woman who is the principal perpetrator. Gabby has been pointing out the truth and the guilty have failed to listen. That includes you.
I haven't considered The Atlantic to be a credible source for some time now.
Neither have I, Edward. But Atlantic articles are widely quoted and disseminated in the mainstream press as if they merit attention, so they need to be addressed by those seeking to establish the truthful record.
It's 100% lies then.
No, it isn't.
We're not as simple-minded as media wants us to be. You don't believe any sources. You believe your gut instinct at the end of the day. The most effective lies are 90% true. You can trust the true parts are true. You can do your due diligence to get to the truth of the matter at hand. no source is trustworthy 100%.
Dr. Daniel Nagase was a good source warning us about reverse transcription. Then Dr. Daniel Nagase doubted himself because he was told lies by Dr. Robert Malone. https://rumble.com/v2fjsqm-wainright-ab.html
Dr. Malone's role in the psyop is already completed. He convinced many, by LIES, that the shots were safe early on. That was his role. Then he attacked Dr. Breggin and his wife over nothing with a $25 million lawsuit. And he denied what he undoubtedly knew to be true -- that there is ample evidence the mRNA could write itself into DNA. He lied about that. To the public.
Sources? I don't care.
Lies. I care.
Cheers
I am quite sure I heard Dr. Malone say there was a paper, scientific evidence that the mRNA can reverse transcribe in an animal model. I believe he said that after he came back from a conference in Rome so unless I am remembering this wrongly, I think he did state it as fact a while ago. I met him in Dec. 2021 and I think it was around this time frame.
He says everything right. And when it counted, he misled. When he warned Dr. Nagasaki about talking about reverse transcription he misled. And I think Dr. Nagasaki is right to point to the minutes Dr. Malone spent away from the Zoom call before returning with the crafted answer that stopped Dr. Nagasaki from mentioning reverse transcription.
Yeah, I follow him on Telegram. He constantly tries to meme and make himself the center of attention and to stay relevant to the crowd. The last post I read from his was something about transgender something. That's his schtick. On the topics of covid, though -- everything he says is right now. I wouldn't be surprised if he was talking about reverse transcription from the shots now. It's when it counted that he silenced the truth. Back then, when the time was at hand, he misled. It can only be on purpose, especially regarding the reverse transcription topic, because the topic is so well-known and it's obvious the shots have the potential to write themselves into DNA. Malone was always present to steer the conversation. By training, it seems.
Cheers
Is there a way to see the actual zoom call that is being referred to? I would find that interesting to watch. No doubt that Dr. Malone seems to be enjoying the attention and lime light. Back when I met him, he was just becoming known, it was before Rogan and I thought he was pretty quiet and reserved and unwell and tired. I was afraid that he'd retreat back into the shadows because there was no way that he could speak out without becoming the target of severe attacks to come. I knew they would double and triple down on him because of his unique position as a researcher, vaccine developer and mRNA early tech inventor. He said he suffered a nervous breakdown in his early days in the lab under the political stress of it regarding the patents. Why anyone would want to put themselves in the line of fire like this, having suffered that in the past when he had a very nice life now was beyond me except for why he said he was doing it, for the children's sake. That was the hill he would die on he said. Is it possible that that is really his truth still? Or was that a lie and he's doing it for who, for what?! I hear what a lot of people on here are saying about him and have followed some of it down but I still can't come to believe the why is that he's government to the core above all. He would have to be a cold-hearted sociopath to pull that off. I can't get there.
Someone put this up. It's the whole conversation I think.
https://odysee.com/n:db
At about 47:00 Malone drops off the call.
I can think of many reasons someone in Malone's position might go ahead and work to intentionally disrupt the movement. In fact, it would be extraordinarily curious if someone WEREN'T there to disrupt -- and I do mean a government / intel agent, given the DoD's involvement in the covid response. If Malone isn't disrupting, then who is? Because you know that's about the first rule. Intel ALWAYS has someone inside these movements. ALWAYS. Otherwise they wouldn't be intel. Right now, I just read a random headline, probably from a Highwire video title actually, asking whether or not anti-vaxxers are the largest voting block in America. I didn't look closely at the question but I do find it an intriguing one and I guarantee you, friend, so does the CIA.
I don't really care to speculate about Malone's possible motives, although the idea that the mRNA platform -- that he invented, or whatever -- becomes the standard new vaccine platform worldwide certainly opens up some juicy speculation, as do many other points -- but it gets us nowhere really to speculate. What if we can't discern his motive? So what? Right? How would that matter? If he's still doing it regardless. And people's motives are like that. That's why the LAST place I look, almost always, is at peoples motives in doing things. I don't know the motive of the fruit tree, but I do know it's fruit.
Cheers
Thank you for the link. I will look at it. If I go with the idea that he’s a disruptor I still don’t see what damage he is causing. He has brought a huge audience to question what has happened which I cannot think the powers running the show are thrilled with so how is that beneficial to them? I guess I just don’t see it.
agree too.
Dr. Katalin Karikó & Dr. Robert Malone, who is telling the truth?
Easy answer. Who was and is glorified for the Covid/Wuhan mRNA gene therapy by the the mains stream media and the big pharma? Hint... hint... Dr. Katalin Kariko. Who was silenced? Dr. Robert Malone. To whom do I not trust? Dr. Karalin Kariko.
"Who was and is glorified for the Covid/Wuhan mRNA gene therapy by the the mains stream media and the big pharma?"
Are you sure about your answer to this? Dr. Robert Malone claimed for months and months and MONTHS -- EVEN ON THE JOE ROGAN PODCAST -- that the shots saved old people. I mean, he may not have said that directly, but one thing he said on the podcast -- I remember defending him on the point -- was that he "may have to rethink" if the shots are good for anyone at all -- implying, of course, that he was still recommending the shots to old people. The death shots. That kill old people.
Then, right now I'm watching Dr. Daniel Nagase describe how Dr. Robert Malone shut him down during a Zoom call on the topic of reverse transcription from the shots. That stopped Dr. Nagase from talking about reverse transcription in public for about 4 months. Here is Dr. Nagase describing what happened:
https://rumble.com/v2fjsqm-wainright-ab.html
That's how psyops works. Go to Dr. Malone's Telegram channel. It's pure gospel. Pure. His job is done, except to destroy the Breggins for -- criticizing his stupid take on -- what was it? -- crowd psychology? Is Malone a crowd psychologist?
Ah! Have we stumbled on the truth through blind interlocution? I think Dr. Malone IS INDEED WELL-TRAINED in public psychology and crowd psychology. That's what the CIA does.
But, back to the point about how psyops work -- they work with temporal impact. Get it? It doesn't matter what happens now. His lies worked THEN. That's all that matters. That's how conspiracies work. IT DOESN'T MATTER if "they're always found out." If they're "found out" -- hey, buddy -- you know what that means? IT MEANS THEY WORKED.
Malone is scum. I get angry every time I start writing about it. I defended him baselessly, too. I thought a quick Google News search would show his name come up in the 80's, or the 90's, or whenever, and it don't. No one ever said anything about this little turd having anything to do with mRNA technology except for him and the CIA -- er, his wife, or whatever.
Cheers
Can you give us any facts? Early on Dr. Malone warned the entire world "Do not take the Vaccine" because they knew only 3% about the gene therapy's behaviour but and 97% unknown. So big thanks to him because he saved many lives! You are attacking the wrong person. You are saying that Dr. Malone implied that the shots might saved old people... Who cares? Just recently one doctor, on World Council For Health, said the same thing that the gene therapy might have saved old people and even recommended it. It just happened recently. Do I attack him for that? No. I Still I respect him. I have to add that Later on he corrected his statement. Most of the doctors have been saying the same thing, if you do not believe you can look it up,. I have been following what is going for the past 3 years and many doctors among us recommended the covid gene therapy to older people. You would be very surprised about the long list. Why people are cherry picking and attacking only one person when Dr. Robert Malone clearly said, over a year ago, do not take the mRNA vaccine and his message resonated around the world. While on the other side Dr. Katalin Kariko was promoting the gene therapy on steroids. I have been following multiple doctors since the beginning of COVID19 (2019 - 2023) and there are very few doctors with clean track and solid record like Dr. Robert Malone. I must say Big thank you to Dr. Robert Malone for his excellent and supportive testimony, yesterday, on the NCI -National Citizens Inquiry (NCI) NCI Toronto Day 2, Ontario, Canada. IMO and based on my research Dr. Malone is the greatest asset for the freedom loving people to drain the swamp. So please do not attack him instead support and use him. That is what I do. Yes, I also know Dr. Paul Alexander who once asked me on the Niagara Bridge if he makes a difference. I said to him yes me makes a huge difference but that time he attacked the right people. It is very painful to watch for me when evil is doing a great job in the freedom movement. So please have critical thinking and do not trust anybody. Let them gain you trust. So far Dr. Malone has my trust. Yes, I know abut his contracts, I know Dr. Malone's and his wife's history. IMO Dr. Robert Malone and his wife are doing the right thing... so please leave them alone.
Not very convincing argument! On the other hand when one follows all of the expositions of Dr. David Martin he presents himself as not only highly intelligent and scholarly but extremely open and transparent ; in fact, he has never had to retract a single statement he has ever made and when challenged by "fact-checkers" or anyone else he responds with evidence-based facts and data that is irrefutable; he actually invites questions and challenges as they assist in his efforts to get the truth out to more and more people; indeed, he hopes, in many cases, that he could be proven wrong about much of what he has knowledge of and exposed but expresses despair that what he continues to discover has been and is much worse than any of us could have imagined; David Martin is deserving of a much wider audience but that won't likely happen because he digs deeper in search of the truth than anyone else...and that frightens not only all those who want to remain hidden but also those of us still living in ignorance and denial and unable to face terrible truths.
Are you saying that David Martin has evidence against Dr. Malone? I listened a whole lot to David Martin the last couple years and I don't recall him disparaging or raising questions about him. I agree that he has offered a whole lot of insight, especially the patent information.
Please provide a link to support your argument that Dr. David Martin ever questioned Dr. ROBERT Malone' s credibility.
Gabriel has no facts, only accusations based on very weak evidence. You, on the other hand, mount a reasoned, rational argument. That is not going to sit well with her.
So why would Malone EVER take the vax? Saline?
Because he was sick and could not travel. He explained it very well.
Don't buy that one. Since he knew how deadly it was, he wouldn't take the real deal. Saline, yes.
And your evidence is ...? Your feelings?
Right over your head, you just don’t get it!
He looks so trusting and all, just like the most interesting man in the world gets thirsty, he has a Dos Equis
You are mistaken when you assume that he is right over my head. I do not trust anybody I only trust facts and during the past 2.5 years he did not do anything wrong. Dr. Robert Malone is one of the most valuable person any freedom movement can get. Each time he speakes I cross check him against different sources and he is credible. Yes, many people see only half of the picture and they never research the entire truth. He explained his entire life and people still picking on him because of their lack knowledge about his work what he did.
Show us hard evidence, publication and date, that you had better cost/benefit by age data than Malone did, before he did, or at least at the same time.
If you can't do that then you are a hypocrite. Show us your data.
Stop shilling for Kariko. She tried to deflect blame on to Malone to cover her own ass.
These jabs she created have taken countless lives!!!!!
I watched Malone the whole time. He pushed the shots at first -- when it mattered. He denied reverse transcription at first -- don't know if he still does -- and publicly shamed others for speaking about the topic -- at first, when it mattered.
Just look at what he did.
And also, what kind of feeling do you get from him? Be honest. Especially if you knew of him from early on. He was a disruptor, is taking undue credit, has CIA ties, and is probably on the payroll of the agency, imho.
Cheers
and Dr Kariko is still profiting from the carnage. she is being defended by people trying to stop the shots.
Will Doctors Kariko and Malone sue each other? Kariko may be on adequate scientific level to discuss mrna disputes in the court against Malone . But Malone lost all my previous trust in him because he sued those scientifically lower level doctors like Ruby or Breggin for criticizing him ("defaming"). I have also stopped believing he took a jab. He surely knew it was experimental, highly toxic and dangerous. He was spouting all the time he took it in order to buy credibility with the public. Atlantic writes those articles in order to distract us from logical and factual thinking. I have strong sense that Malone is hiding a lot of inconvenient for him facts from his career.
Can you post a link to prove this please because during the past 3 years Dr. Malone never ever promoted the mRNA gene therapy: "He was spouting all the time he took it in order to buy credibility with the public" . thank you.
Her beliefs are full of shit
Just another shill for Kariko. Best she does the perp.walk at Nurembergv2. Damn her to hell!!!!
OMG!!!! YOU CANNOT really trust Google at this point with all the evidence that shows they are controlling us, what we see in searches, how it's framed?! PLEASE. When Malone got mainstream press from being on Rogan, they scrubbed his info. Wiki got rid of his accomplishments. Think how quickly the Pfizer doctor who was exposed by James O'Keef had all his information sanitized within hours of the videos release. You cannot look to Google as a valid way to boost your claim. Further, there are good doctors in this fight who still defend Malone so what do you say about them? Are they scum too? I don't think we should be so quick to judge here. The truth is seldom this or that, good or bad. Live in the grey a bit longer. This is far too complex for rash judgements.
I don't think Google is burying 1980's news reports. I don't put much past them, either.
Malone's Breggin lawsuit alone is unforgivable.
I certainly think less of him for going after the Breggins.
That's the difference between you and a lot of people, such as his readers. Malone does not like criminals. I respect him for opening himself up to discovery and to questioning and to having to give answers under penalty of perjury. If no crime of criminal defamation has been committed against him then he will lose and will have to pay the Breggins' costs.
Lawsuits are always risky. I think he did it to shut them up, thus the outrageous amount. Still there is the court of public opinion and that is where Malone is coming off as the bad guy imo.
Your quote sums it all up....that the shots saved old people. I mean, he may not have said that directly
Lol. The shots were never effective. The third author of this commentary, Dr. Peter Doshi, is the editor of the BMJ.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36967517/
Sources of bias in observational studies of covid-19 vaccine effectiveness
"Our article [provides] examples based on actual data sets that quantify how case-counting window bias, age bias, and background infection rate bias can profoundly complicate the analysis of observational studies, shifting covid-19 vaccine effectiveness estimates by an absolute magnitude as high as 50% to 70%."
The shots killed old people. Then their deaths were covered up -- blamed on natural causes, on inherited heart defects, and, of course, on a highly unreliable pcr test showing the presence of sars-cov2 virus, which we all ham-handedly started calling "covid," partially because the CDC and everyone else was as well.
I have no time for this bullshit, friend. An old friend of mine is in the hospital right now. Classic vaccine injury story. She just spent a day doing another test to no avail -- A DAY LONG TEST regarding her genetic heart condition. If she died, they would probably have blamed her heart condition. Not the shot. But now that she's had this test -- along with the test of her heart working fine her whole life, which is how genetic heart defects usually work -- they know it's not from that. Her mysterious health condition is from something else. She's as baffled as her doctors are.
Are you baffled?
Cheers
sorry about your friend.
this tragedy is going to touch all of us and the coverup of it is absolutely disgusting.
I'm not baffled at all and do recognize a lack of clear objectionable thinking
I'm sure I've misunderstood you somehow. Sorry about that.
Cheers
Well said Làszlò!
We shouldn’t even look or care about what is going on between Dr.Karikò and Dr.Malone.
Karikò is on the other side!!!
She is GLORIFIED by Google. That tells us everything we need to know.
The dumbfucks on the earlier stacks have been giving her a pass.
not only glorified: profiting.
follow the money.
The real issue is Moderna’s central role in creating the mRNA injections for pushing humanity to accept this as a new form of healthcare treatment. A deep dive into moderna is called for.
BOOM
Whitney Web did an excellent video on Moderna, their background, history of Steve B. being a salesman, first and foremost. That fact that Moderna never successfully brought a product to market and that their chief scientific officers left very quickly and often. Also, they were not doing well with the mRNA injections with cancer and needed some other thing they could be used for making vaccines the perfect new place to look. It was known that the mRNA was problematic for REPEATED use so a couple vaccines might make it under the radar avoiding detection. Her reporting is always very enlightening.
The "deep dive" has already been done by Dr. David Martin; Martin reveals the clear-cut evidence that Moderna paid NIAID $400 million dollars for a royalty license in exchange for royalties on FUTURE COVID-19 VACCINE SALES; such criminal acts were and and are at the heart of the racketeering and conspiracy to profit from "vaccine" development BEFORE there was any real pathogenic threat identified!
and BioNTech. for which Kariko is senior vice president.
stop defending her. she is highly responsible here.
Yep! A troll causing descent!
this whole crime scene needs thorough investigation.
but we have media accolades, awards etc. to one person who is responsible for the absolute carnage.
One thing I know for sure... I don't trust anything published in The Atlantic. I also know that Dr. Malone was listed as the primary developer of mRNA technology by Wikipedia until after he began speaking out against the Covid shots. That was removed shortly afterwards, with the propagandists then claiming Katalin Karikó was the person who developed the technology. Indeed, it was pushed as a feminist talking point... the new "vaccine" technology was developed by a woman! At the time, I joked that if you want to con people into trusting a new movement or technology, you put the face of a woman on it.
Yes, I remember that as well. Malone made waves so they immediately started their discrediting campaign.
Stop the feminist bullshit. She gets no pass, no amnesty just because she is a woman. You cannot defend the indefensible! Rot in hell!!
Isn't she the person who incorporated the dangerous pseudouridine into the mRNA? Yeah, she is. Wouldn't believe a thing she says. She's one of the killers.
for sure all linked to mRNA and the LNP complex and shot have brought us death. It boggles my mind what they did. was this pure money? fame? God complex?
I wouldn't go that far. For clarity, I haven't looked that closely at her, and what she's said about the shots. But I do know the research into pseudouridine was ongoing before she and the other guy did their bit with it. If she's out there pushing the shots, then f her. In fact, I don't really care about her. It sounds like she did basic scientific work that led to an advancement. It's not a matter of "her or Malone." It's a matter of the truth. Duh.
And speaking of truth -- that's what she and her coworker came across a bit of. Like Einstein did. And boom.
Cheers
I think we listen to everyone...
You are a blunt voice of reason and are a singular voice of integrity. I respect you. But I would be highly suspect of Kariko if I were you. Malone too for his past connection and current litigious spree. I’m mostly having trouble with the latter not the former. I am watching him closely. Kariko works directly for the Pharma industry as a VP. Her conflicts of interest are legion IMO.
RNA is inflammatory she says?
As part of informed consent that would of been nice to know.
I battled with inflammation before the shot. You wouldn’t believe the problems I have now.
Absolutely unforgivable!!!
my doctor, my hero, my personal virulently-anti-clot-shot doc, wrote me a pass to get out of the jab based on an inflammatory condition.
I do not quite understand why ANYONE wants "credit" for this biotechnological disaster...
However, troubling questions remain.
Malone, the ball is in your court.
Katalin Karikó certainly profited from these shots. She got the Solvay prize(€300,000 prize), the Horwitz prize, the Pearl Meister Greengard Prize (The prize, which includes a $100,000 honorarium), the Princess of Asturias Award etc. etc. She even expected to win the Nobel prize in medicine or chemistry.
Has anyone ever heard Katalin Karikó saying that the mRNA shots are not safe and effective because I haven’t.
Here's the link for an article that describes Kariko's history.
https://www.bu.edu/articles/2021/how-drew-weissman-and-katalin-kariko-developed-mrna-technology-inside-covid-vaccines/
I do not trust either one of them. Seems to me both of them are two sides of the same psyops.
And we shouldn't trust you either. Your tricky attempt at whataboutism won''t wash! You are deflecting ballme away from Kariko. As Gabby has been saying repeatedly to you wilfully blind and deaf sheep, Kariko's fingerprints are all over this. Sorry but she doesn't get a pass. You belong at Nuremberg 2 alongside her!
Wow. You’re weird. Read what I said. I did no such thing. You’re just all-in on Malone obviously. At the risk of being redundant I do not trust either of them equally. Get it? Now get a clue!
A shill for Kariko is hardly the best judge of what's weird. Now you seek to cover your ass. You belong on the scaffold along with her at Nuremberg.
You’re a liar and a moron. Fuck off.
You're describing yourself. Her fingerprints are all iover the jabs. Who gives a fuck what you think. Fuck you. Go to hell
I never exonerated her. In my opinion she’s a piece of garbage same as Malone. Geez. Take your meds. You’ll feel better in a few hours.
Malone doesn't say anything that I pay attention to because he usually stays on his substack, where those of us who can't afford to buy our comments onto it are excluded from participation.
Thank you for keeping the comments free on this substack.
It would be nice to have some knowledgeable laypeople explain some of the highly technical content here, FWIW.
Yeah, the paid-only commenting model is corrupt. I'm not paying someone in order to tell them I disagree with them.
Who are you paying to agree with them?
Remember, that is very profitable to those who sell sport swag...
Dr Kariko owns mRNA patents licensed to BioNTech and Moderna
Dr Death Jab herself. The hero of the haters on this echo chamber. Watch them rush to defend her while performing mental gymnastics to try to hide that the whole time they have been giving her a pass.
yeah. Dr Kariko is not the victim here. as i keep saying, her fingerprints are all over this crime scene.
Scientists don't need a pass to do science. Regarding the mRNA technology, as far as I can tell, that's all she did -- some science.
Also, heavens but this is getting tiresome. We deal with facts, not people. Attack the facts, not the person. Does it hit harder if I say that in Latin?
fact. Kariko is senior vice president of BioNTech.
fact. Kariko’s patents are under licence to BioNTech and Moderna.
fact. in early 2020 Kariko worked on the development of covid-19 vaccines.
fact. since the deployment of covid-19 vaccines we see significant levels of excess mortality in all the highly vaccinated nations around the world.
fact. we also see increased reports of disability and miscarriages in this time period.
Isn't she responsible for saying she found a way to make the mRNA stable so it could be used effectively? Shouldn't she have known that the mRNA doesn't degrade quickly at all even though we were told it does? Why isn't she being called out for not disclosing that? Certainly she should have known that or cared to.
google scholar lists her credited publications through the years. so the pseudouridine, the LNP’s, it tracks back to her.
she is widely credited with inserting the mRNA into a cell without it destroying the cell.
another of her publications deals with getting the mRNA to evade the immune system (which would make it last longer, if the body isn’t seeking it out and eliminating it).
she figured out how to make the mRNA not degrade.
it’s all on record. fingerprints. crime scene.
Shills hate facts.
fact. BioNTech and Pfizer partnered for the manufacturing and distribution of covid-19 vaccines linked to excess mortality.
fact. Pfizer’s revenu more than doubled due to these covid-19 vaccines.
fact. in 2019 BioNTech stated that training would be required for medical personnel to recognize and treat adverse effects of their mRNA products and that failure to do so could cause death. see pages 21-25, specifically p.24 for that nugget: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1776985/000119312519241112/d635330df1.htm#toc635330_17
fact. doctors are baffled at the unexplained excess morbidity and mortality.
fact. Kariko worked on the covid-19 vaccines. is senior VP of one of the companies involved. and is also leasing her patents to both companies involved in the production of covid-19 mRNA vaccines.
And she's right about Malone, too.
I appreciate the stuff you're saying. Yeah they had to hire like 2,000 people to keep track of the harms reports. I know. Same deal with the Australian vaccine reporting system, I think it was. They had to increase their staff by like 20 times, from 4 to 80.
Yup.
i am more concerned about ‘team human freedom’ defending Kariko than i am about anything Malone does or says.
he might be a CIA plant. he himself has given sufficient information about his dealings to raise the red flags on him.
but Kariko is legit profiting from carnage.
she’s not innocent here.
and at least Malone is warning people. Kariko’s not. she’s developing more mRNA to juice into babies’ arms.
You cannot defend the indefensible! How appalling that you even try!! Millions are dead
because of her jabs!
How many died because of Einstein's jabs?
i’m not aware that Einstein developed, licensed patents for, headed up a company that produced, was awarded countless medals and awards for his work on, or profited financially or professionally from any vaccines.
could you be more specific about the Einstein jabs you’re referring to?
The atomic bomb.
it's a metaphor. or simile, or irony or something. nothing to get your fur up about.
Correction. Kariko's jabs. Nice try.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki, brought to you by Albert Einstein.
I'm not so sure this is an either/or issue.
I'm watching Dr. Nagase right now talking about the time Dr. Robert Malone disappeared from the Zoom call for 10 when Dr. Nagase brought up the reverse transcription effect potential of the shots, only to reappear with slick talking points -- lies -- that convinced Dr. Nagase to stop talking about reverse transcription for a period of about 4 months.
He lied about the shots for a few months and got TONS of people to take them.
He lied about his role in the mRNA technology.
He lied about reverse transcription.
I never liked that little shithead.
The bigger problem is the woman who actually develoed the jabs. Stop making excuses for the main perpetrator and trying to deflect blame! I see a little shithead I don't like. Neither you nor your precious feminist iconn gets a pass
You belong at Nuremberg 2 with her!!
DrKariko is actually profiting from the experimental covid-19 vaccines which are killing and damaging people.
Dr Kariko is senior vice president at BioNTech.
The truth is what's important. The bankers wrote the Federal Reserve Act, which gave the private bank control over US money. Then to get it passed they railed against it in the press.
It's easy to mold people. We are subject to the best molders on Earth.
In short, they can both be scum, he and her. It doesn't matter one bit. That won't change your DNA. But they both -- he and her -- probably knew the shots do.
Cheers
yeah. well worded!
as far as i’m concerned it’s not an either or. false choice is the game ‘they’ play to win.
good cop bad cop.
You say you want the truth but do you? I doubt it. Malone is opening himself up to discovery and to questioning and to having to give answers under penalty of perjury. The transcript of wuestions and answers will be able to be evaluated for scientific merit, or lack thereof. Additionaly, if no crime of criminal defamation has been committed against him then he will lose and will have to pay the defendanrs' costs. There's a huge difference in integrity between you and Malone. Malone's arguments are not governed by sophistry and emotional reasoning.
Malone's arguments supported the shots and detracted from their detractors. Then he sued the Breggins for $25 million. That's not how you unite against a global enemy. That's how you stop the movement that is uniting against that enemy. This ain't sophistry. This is very plain-spoken -- in fact it's looping at this point because I'm repeating my three main charges against him over and over because somehow it seems I'm not getting through.
Cheers
didn’t the Breggins cause this by repeatedly defaming and libelling Malone (and Desmet) first, without being willing to have any interaction, discourse, communication, interview, questioning or other form of civil debate?
from my perspective the Breggins kinda seem like the bullies in this situation, and in classic form, bullies often claim to be the victims to excuse their bullying behaviour.
i personally think there’s professional jealousy and ego at play. i imagine book sales written by psychiatrists analyzing the landscape before is has something to do with it. but that’s just a guess.
at any rate, i don’t see how slandering fellow freedom fighters strengthens the movement’s unity against the global enemy.
both parties are guilty of fracturing. one began the process. the other is attempting to finish it.
i don’t think so much attention should be given to it because it’s like a poison infecting nearby tissue.
You nailed it Gabby.
If AwakeNotWoke wants to attack those of us who are on his or her side for no reason then he/she needs to go elsewhere. That type of insulting diatribe is not acceptible. I do not believe in censorship but his/her comments will be completely ignored by me from now on.
Here's how your side attacks me, Laura J. Actual quotes:
I'd wish the same on you, but I'm a giant fucking pussy who hides behind studies and stuff and I need to have my shitty fucking family murdered in front of my face.
You should be commended for getting your face smashed in with a bat.
I hope that you get assaulted today and beaten into a coma.
I'd wish the same on you, but I'm a giant fucking pussy who hides behind studies and stuff and I need to have my shitty fucking family murdered in front of my face.
Enjoy getting your head caved in with an anvil.
Enjoy getting assaulted and having your face smashed into bits, Cunt.
Is this reasonable? I'd like to smash your fucking face in with a bat? And then kick you in the liver until you vomit blood.
I would smash your fucking face into the curb, you fucking little bitch. After you are done licking out Bob Malone's asshole do you let Jill fuck you up the ass?
Hey Bob Malone needs you to come over and clean the shit out of Jill's ass, can you make it by noon?
You stupid fucking cunt. your whore mother should have aborted you. Now get over there and get busy letting Bob Malone fuck you up the ass.
You have cancer of the liver. Bitch ass pussy.
It's reminiscent of Saul/Paul and me letting Bob fuck me up the ass and then sucking my shit off his dick.
Can I have a hug? And then smash your liver?
Not for no reason Laura j. There's good reason. Defending Kariko by omission, by deflecting blame just shows your culpability and complicity. You belong at Nuremberg 2 alongside this woman who is the principal perpetrator. Gabby has been pointing out the truth and the guilty have failed to listen. That includes you.