RORs for ALS were elevated for all statins, with elevations possibly stronger for lipophilic statins. RORs ranged from 9.09 (6.57-12.6) and 16.2 (9.56-27.5) for rosuvastatin and pravastatin
I've been wondering why we keep hearing about so many cases of this "very rare" disease (ALS) in recent years.
P.S. My doctor prescribed atorvastatin about 7 years ago. Over 3-4 weeks I became very weak and achy, and was losing my mental sharpness. It took great effort to get out of bed in the morning. I didn't know what was happening to me until I saw an ad for a TV attorney looking for clients in a class action lawsuit against statin manufacturers. I had EVERY listed symptom. I immediately called my doctor and stopped taking the statin. The doctor now says I have unusually high "good" cholesterol for "genetic reasons" and I don't need the statin. This was my first indication that something very fishy was happening. (I was back to my energetic self in less than 2 weeks after stopping the statin.)
i've known this for years. there is a small book Lipitor, Thief of Memory by Dr. Duane Graveline which i bought (amazon tells me on 3/20/09) and gave to my father. Dr. Graveline started having TIAs after statin use. i later read a stock tip, encouraging investment in the only drug at the time used to slow (a bit) the progression of ALS, the numbers of which were expected to rise due to wide statin use (yes, the tip actually said that).
my father also read a short article in his AARP magazine about a woman with ALS who had rigged her ipad as a communications device which was apparently far more effective than the cumbersome machinery insurance would cover. "i wonder if she's taken statins?" he asked and urged me to find her. using the clues in the article, i located her through her local ALS chapter and sent her an e-mail on my father's behalf. she responded that yes, there was a suspicion.
i also somewhere read an article by a man who had ALS and was planning to kill himself before things got so bad that he lost the ability to. i tracked him down and we had a brief e-mail correspondence. he had lived in japan for a time and took pride in his exceptionally low cholesterol. i told him his levels were too low and to please add some good fats into his diet. his last e-mail to me was a thank you and a good bye and an acknowledgement that statins were suspect; he forwarded me a copy of a newspaper article on the subject.
my father always refused statins. hospitals and nursing homes tried to force them on him continually. the nurse would bring the statin every night and every night my father would turn it down, until i suggested to the nurse that the rejected pills better not appear on my father's medicare bill or i would report them for fraud. that triggered a visit from the doctor who tried to to argue with me, citing relative risk reduction stats. i had actually read the Jupiter study and could quote the absolute risk reduction plus the increased risks of diabetes, TIAs, etc. he walked away and my dad was never offered a statin again.
he also didn't stay there long. i lived with him until he died, 6 weeks shy of his 96th birthday, his mind still sharp, home in bed shortly after i had tucked him in for the night.
it comes as a shock to me that this connection isn't all common knowledge.
Dr. Malcolm Kendrick, a physician from Scotland, has written two books on statins: "A Statin Nation" and "The Great Cholesterol Con" (and has a website).
Listen to Dr. Diamond on YouTube. He goes through the the ABSOLUTE risk reduction and what scam the statin pushing is. You’ll never worry about your cholesterol again. Will you or I have a heart attack someday? Maybe? But it would not be stopped by lowering your cholesterol.
An obese friend was the sales director for a pharma line of statins... he was on them .... he tried to push them on me 10+ years ago ... I said - but I am fit and healthy and have no issues with cholesterol...
I thank God that I lost trust in the medical establishment over 20 years ago. Sometime in the early 2000's I had some blood work done for a unrelated reason, just when the push for statins was raging (the drug salesmen pushers doing their 'job').
My Dr told me about how I need to beware of heart attacks because my cholesterol levels were 'too high' and urged me to take this new drug that will help me.
"No thanks" I said and every time the issue has come up, I always tell them the same.
I think I learned of the danger of these 'drugs' from Mercola several years ago, giving me further confidence that my intuition and discernment are helping me avoid these poisons.
You are one of the few Dr's I know that is acknowledging this. Thanks for that.
Needless to say, I knew in my gut that the covid vaxxes were little more than depopulation poisons and have warned everyone I can of it.
I have read that cholesterol can't cross the blood-brain barrier. If statins interfere with the production of cholesterol, could their use be correlated with advanced onset dementia or other neurodegenerative conditions?
Your body makes about 80-85% of its own cholesterol in the liver. There are some 10-12 different types now known. Every cell in your body contains cholesterol. That includes brain cells.
They want us on that Medical Merry-go-round, instead of teaching about cutting sugars, seed oils, the benefits of vitamin D, Omega 3's, sunshine, exercising. Big Food, Big Pharma = Big Corrupt Government!
Wife's friend had us over to dinner one night, back in 2011. Colorado Springs. Liked the wife's female friend, a healthy yogi, but her Air Force Dr. husband, (AF Academy in Colorado Springs) was another story! After he suffered through the very organic meal, and some organic/bio-dynamic wine, he pulled me aside to tell me of the wonders of statins. I lived minutes from The Incline, Pike's Peak, and the Barr Trail. The climb had recently reopened to cyclists, and I was in by far the greatest shape of my life. Our house was at 7100 ft, a constant hyperbaric chamber! The chubby Dr. looked a bit like Peter Hotez!
I laughed hysterically as he told me about how I needed statins "at my age." He looked 20 years older, obverse for me. Mentioned red yeast rice to him as a healthier alternative, how Vitamin D3 was a cholesterol molecule, and we got in to an increasingly more heated discussion. The girls rushed over, and driving home the wife smiled at me, and said, "pretty sure those are the last people we know who will have us over for dinner!" She laughed, I laughed. Neither of us (except for her pregnancy, and a few broken ribs and clavicles for me!) have ever visited a doctor while married.
Too technical for me so I just dumb it down to the world of simplicity. Thanks for another reason that reminds me that I will never take any statins despite having minor heart problems. There are always much safer herbs and supplements that work even better than statins.
Besides, there is no proof that high cholesterol causes heart attacks since people with low readings also experience almost as many heart attacks. This is another big pharma charade based on hot air, faulty studies and no real scientific based evidence. This lie supports the sale of the most used drugs in the world.
We know stations are mostly useless in preventing cardiac disease, but if they can contribute to diabetes, dementia as well as something as horrific as ALS, most Americans should think twice!!!
I've been wondering why we keep hearing about so many cases of this "very rare" disease (ALS) in recent years.
P.S. My doctor prescribed atorvastatin about 7 years ago. Over 3-4 weeks I became very weak and achy, and was losing my mental sharpness. It took great effort to get out of bed in the morning. I didn't know what was happening to me until I saw an ad for a TV attorney looking for clients in a class action lawsuit against statin manufacturers. I had EVERY listed symptom. I immediately called my doctor and stopped taking the statin. The doctor now says I have unusually high "good" cholesterol for "genetic reasons" and I don't need the statin. This was my first indication that something very fishy was happening. (I was back to my energetic self in less than 2 weeks after stopping the statin.)
I had terrible muscle pain after taking it for a week. Stopped it & pain resolved within days. Pharma is really killing us.
Thank the heavens we have the FDA watching out for us...or not.
i've known this for years. there is a small book Lipitor, Thief of Memory by Dr. Duane Graveline which i bought (amazon tells me on 3/20/09) and gave to my father. Dr. Graveline started having TIAs after statin use. i later read a stock tip, encouraging investment in the only drug at the time used to slow (a bit) the progression of ALS, the numbers of which were expected to rise due to wide statin use (yes, the tip actually said that).
my father also read a short article in his AARP magazine about a woman with ALS who had rigged her ipad as a communications device which was apparently far more effective than the cumbersome machinery insurance would cover. "i wonder if she's taken statins?" he asked and urged me to find her. using the clues in the article, i located her through her local ALS chapter and sent her an e-mail on my father's behalf. she responded that yes, there was a suspicion.
i also somewhere read an article by a man who had ALS and was planning to kill himself before things got so bad that he lost the ability to. i tracked him down and we had a brief e-mail correspondence. he had lived in japan for a time and took pride in his exceptionally low cholesterol. i told him his levels were too low and to please add some good fats into his diet. his last e-mail to me was a thank you and a good bye and an acknowledgement that statins were suspect; he forwarded me a copy of a newspaper article on the subject.
my father always refused statins. hospitals and nursing homes tried to force them on him continually. the nurse would bring the statin every night and every night my father would turn it down, until i suggested to the nurse that the rejected pills better not appear on my father's medicare bill or i would report them for fraud. that triggered a visit from the doctor who tried to to argue with me, citing relative risk reduction stats. i had actually read the Jupiter study and could quote the absolute risk reduction plus the increased risks of diabetes, TIAs, etc. he walked away and my dad was never offered a statin again.
he also didn't stay there long. i lived with him until he died, 6 weeks shy of his 96th birthday, his mind still sharp, home in bed shortly after i had tucked him in for the night.
it comes as a shock to me that this connection isn't all common knowledge.
Dr. Malcolm Kendrick, a physician from Scotland, has written two books on statins: "A Statin Nation" and "The Great Cholesterol Con" (and has a website).
Yes, he is really amazing in that he questions all this standard statin nonsense.
I’ve read the Great Cholesterol Con. It’s in my library of health books
So basically the practice of medicine has become all about making us sicker, the sicker the better, for $$$. Horrific is right.
You have got it exactly right!
Listen to Dr. Diamond on YouTube. He goes through the the ABSOLUTE risk reduction and what scam the statin pushing is. You’ll never worry about your cholesterol again. Will you or I have a heart attack someday? Maybe? But it would not be stopped by lowering your cholesterol.
An obese friend was the sales director for a pharma line of statins... he was on them .... he tried to push them on me 10+ years ago ... I said - but I am fit and healthy and have no issues with cholesterol...
He says - doesn't matter lower is better.
I laughed at him and said thanks but no thanks.
He's a big time Pro Vaxxer of course
OMG! This is horrific, and makes sense. Thank you SO MUCH for posting this.
Another fraudulent drug? Color me shocked. 🙄
30 years a fraud...just the way big pharma loves it.
OMG indeed. Thanks for this warning.
I thank God that I lost trust in the medical establishment over 20 years ago. Sometime in the early 2000's I had some blood work done for a unrelated reason, just when the push for statins was raging (the drug salesmen pushers doing their 'job').
My Dr told me about how I need to beware of heart attacks because my cholesterol levels were 'too high' and urged me to take this new drug that will help me.
"No thanks" I said and every time the issue has come up, I always tell them the same.
I think I learned of the danger of these 'drugs' from Mercola several years ago, giving me further confidence that my intuition and discernment are helping me avoid these poisons.
You are one of the few Dr's I know that is acknowledging this. Thanks for that.
Needless to say, I knew in my gut that the covid vaxxes were little more than depopulation poisons and have warned everyone I can of it.
I have read that cholesterol can't cross the blood-brain barrier. If statins interfere with the production of cholesterol, could their use be correlated with advanced onset dementia or other neurodegenerative conditions?
Your body makes about 80-85% of its own cholesterol in the liver. There are some 10-12 different types now known. Every cell in your body contains cholesterol. That includes brain cells.
They want us on that Medical Merry-go-round, instead of teaching about cutting sugars, seed oils, the benefits of vitamin D, Omega 3's, sunshine, exercising. Big Food, Big Pharma = Big Corrupt Government!
Wife's friend had us over to dinner one night, back in 2011. Colorado Springs. Liked the wife's female friend, a healthy yogi, but her Air Force Dr. husband, (AF Academy in Colorado Springs) was another story! After he suffered through the very organic meal, and some organic/bio-dynamic wine, he pulled me aside to tell me of the wonders of statins. I lived minutes from The Incline, Pike's Peak, and the Barr Trail. The climb had recently reopened to cyclists, and I was in by far the greatest shape of my life. Our house was at 7100 ft, a constant hyperbaric chamber! The chubby Dr. looked a bit like Peter Hotez!
I laughed hysterically as he told me about how I needed statins "at my age." He looked 20 years older, obverse for me. Mentioned red yeast rice to him as a healthier alternative, how Vitamin D3 was a cholesterol molecule, and we got in to an increasingly more heated discussion. The girls rushed over, and driving home the wife smiled at me, and said, "pretty sure those are the last people we know who will have us over for dinner!" She laughed, I laughed. Neither of us (except for her pregnancy, and a few broken ribs and clavicles for me!) have ever visited a doctor while married.
Too technical for me so I just dumb it down to the world of simplicity. Thanks for another reason that reminds me that I will never take any statins despite having minor heart problems. There are always much safer herbs and supplements that work even better than statins.
Besides, there is no proof that high cholesterol causes heart attacks since people with low readings also experience almost as many heart attacks. This is another big pharma charade based on hot air, faulty studies and no real scientific based evidence. This lie supports the sale of the most used drugs in the world.
Apparently anything that depletes cholesterol, can dramatically increases risk of any degenerative disease.
https://raypeatforum.com/community/search/336939/?q=statin&c%5Busers%5D=haidut&o=relevance
Would someone explain, or point me to an explanation of, RORs and what the risk means for the simvastatin number?
Dow: This might help.
https://allaboutpharmacovigilance.org/43-reporting-odds-ratio-ror/
Thank you. Perfect answer!
We know stations are mostly useless in preventing cardiac disease, but if they can contribute to diabetes, dementia as well as something as horrific as ALS, most Americans should think twice!!!