time is acceptable; you will deal with your God as to what you do but there are options including adoption and responsible behavior; taking the life of a viable human being is WRONG!
I spent years as a peer counsellor at a crisis pregnancy centre. Counselled and tried to help post abortive women. These mothers of dead children were well and truly broken. There is no way any mother has her own preborn child killed without physical, spiritual and emotional consequences. Abortion is a dangerous, inhuman, disastrous product. Anyone who sells this product to women in a crisis pregnancy instead of the real help she needs should be locked up. There is no such thing as a "hard case" or medically necessary preborn child killing. End of story.
Thank you Elizabeth for your comment and thank your for truly trying to help women .
I agree with you. I have a close friend that had an abortion at a very young age 40yrs ago . The regret never leaves her ; even though she had 3 children eventually, the emptiness and sadness from the end of her first child’s life has never left her.
I am also against abortion. It breaks my heart to know what they do to the unborn babies. My sister's friend had nine abortions and has zero regret. I do not know anyone like that.
I also knew a woman that had almost that many abortions too. I cannot understand how someone cannot be responsible and use birth control ? Responsible use of birth control should be stressed as a very important viable solution to unwanted pregnancy. I don’t understand why women or men would want to end an unborn child’s life instead of using a birth control method ?
It was many years ago, but I read a Psychologist who argued Mothers who repeatedly abort are caught in a trauma cycle.
And until they face their pain and choose life for the current Child they’re carrying, they’re compelled to keep punishing themselves (and their Babies) in same horrific way.
Abortion is a direct result of ‘birth control.’ The contraceptive mentality was the FOUNDATION for the abortion industry. Planned parenthood and the eugenics ideologues who founded it transformed a society with sexual standards and appreciation for children into one of loathing for children and rampant promiscuity. It’s success as an industry relies on pushing the idea that children are a burden AND that the sexual act can become animalistic recreation rather than the act of procreation. The whole idea of ‘contraception’ is anti human, anti child and anti God. The notion that anything but abstinence or sterilization prevents pregnancy in women of child bearing age is a lie. The abortion industry is based on this lie. Their marketing strategy relies upon pushing promiscuity and premarital sex AND contraception because they KNOW the high failure rate of the mechanical and chemical methods of so called ‘birth control’.
Ectogenesis developments are moving fast. We'll be able to keep the fetua alive at any stage of gestation and transplant it from a pro-abortion woman nto a pro-life woman, or even into a pro-life man. Isn't that good news? If the Dems are smart they'll introduce a conscription lottery to see who gets forced to carry the child, because I can't see many of you putting your hands up. I have a very low opinion of feminists and women who abort, very low, but I wouldn't be volunteering. I'd prefer you do it.
Abortion may very well be a thing of the past in 10 years, but if so it will be because there are no unborn babies to abort anymore. Already planned parenthoods are transitioning to trans clinics...and not because roe was 'overturned'. OK, I have no links to articles. I only know the 'word on the street'. But I'm throwing it out there anyway to see if it may strike a chord anywhere.
You’re referencing the Infertility element of the ClotShots.
They’re really going to have to get the Guillotines a-choppin’ to kill off all the Elderly since Social Security won’t have much of a young workforce to fund it.
If the shots are harming fertility, there may not be many pregnancies. If livestock is being injected or going to be injected, we all become 'vaxxed', furthering the infertility. If masks reduce sperm, if GMO's reduce sperm and/or cause PCOS, if chemtrails contain fertility harming chemicals, etc. I mean, it seems the assaults on fertility are coming from everywhere. Clearly the powers that be do not want us proles reproducing. Maybe they will achieve their aim, at least by quite a bit. Planned Parenthood may have been involved in giving opposite sex hormones for some time, don't know, but I am recently hearing about it and hadn't before. So I hope I clarified a bit, but maybe it will also help to say I am kind of free-associating. I am not trying to make an argument replete with references. I'm just engaging. Thank you for humoring me!
That's a good comment. The shots affect primarily the ovaries and to a great extent also the testes. I think it was Dr. Thorp, an ObGyn, who pointed out that the shots may be sterilizing female fetuses in the womb with many millions affected but that it may take 20 years to find out.
The technical term for a miscarriage is "natural abortion," Coco. 40 of these happen every minute. I'm trying to figure out who is responsible for destroying these children, Coco. Is it Satan? Who has dominion over nature Coco because that's who is destroying 40 children every minute? Who is it?
Nope. Natural abortion is something someone does electively. Spontaneous abortion is a miscarriage. But I’m done here because I know from your comments on other posts you think you’re the smartest person in the world. Tootles.
Nope, abortion will soon be a thing of the past. We're going to be able to prevent abortion by transplanting the fetus first into an artificial womb and then into feminists like You. .
Enjoy!
Artificial Wombs Will Change Abortion Rights Forever
I am the furthest thing from a feminist. What exactly about my comment saying a “natural abortion” is not a miscarriage means I’m a feminist? You make many valid points on things but then make these kind of comments. So odd.
And I long for the day we get rid of abortion but not because of the sick way you want to do it.
I would love to say I had high moral and spiritual principles at age 20 when I did NOT have an abortion amid great pressure to do so........It was by the grace of God and because I was deathly afraid of doctors and the medical system that I did not have an abortion.
Thank God!
My firstborn son is awesome as are all his brothers.
I thank God every day for each of them and for God standing by me and protecting me through each pregnancy.
I taught at alternative high schools and made sure my students, young men and young women, could talk to me when faced with pregnancy - and that I told them, no matter what, they'd never regret a baby. And I fought hard for nurseries in schools for young parents.
Years ago when I was about 18/19 (?) I worked in a grocery store. A young woman only slightly older than me, a shift manager with whom I worked quite often, became pregnant. Unmarried. Finding me alone in our cash draw counting room, she told me. She said she was thinking about getting an abortion. She wanted to know (for some reason!) what I thought, what I'd do.
While I forget exactly what I said, it was something along the lines of while we (women/girls) can have abortions, I would never do it. I would take the responsibility. Even if her boyfriend didn't want the baby (hers didn't), that baby was a part of 𝒉𝒆𝒓. Unique in every way. Connected to her. So, while "inconvenient," how does one destroy that willfully? So, you wanna know what I'd do? I would have that baby if it was meant to be. Come what may. You'll figure it out.
Fast forward. She ended up having the baby (a boy). She came back to work with her mother's help. When the baby was probably a few months old, "Betty" (not her real name) came to me. She was talking about her baby, how beautiful he was, how she could not get over how much she loved him. Now with her beautiful baby, she said she simply could not imagine killing him, not having him.
Then came the part I'll remember forever. She went on to tell me that every single other person she talked to about her "situation" told her to have the abortion. That I was the only person who advised her to keep her pregnancy, to have that baby. The only one and she would never forget me. (Tears then, tears now.)
Thank you for writing, and now I have tears.......isn't it marvelous and mysterious how God works?!
"Betty" came to you, asked YOU for direction, while everyone around her pounded her with what she "had" to do, as they did with me, and it was you that gave her permission to listen to her heart, and the heart of her child, her son.
❤️ Thank you, Jill. That was a long time ago, but I've often thought of that -- virtually always when this subject comes up. I think -- all being well -- that "Betty's" baby is now a man in his late 40's. God does work in mysterious ways.
To your point about her heart, I think that's exactly right. I did very little except be truthful with her. She asked; I told her. What I believe is that she needed to hear from at least 𝒐𝒏𝒆 𝒑𝒆𝒓𝒔𝒐𝒏 that what she really wanted deep down was the better way -- despite all the difficulties her circumstances presented. I had no idea until she told me that I was that only person.
As for me being wise, all credit must go to my mother. Loving and wise beyond measure, but also based in reality -- hard reality. She never fluffed stuff up or blew sunshine...She was the center of my world. Of the many wise things she said to me, here are two I think of often: Live in a way that allows you to always do two things: 1) Look in mirror without shame and 2) Put your head on the pillow at night...
100% agree...however I am not clean or free from big sin on this one. I made the wrong decisions as a young man. I realize that now. I repent constantly. I can't shame or judge anyone around the sin I've committed (of course)...only encourage them to think about reconsidering the truths about all of this now.
As a woman who made the same terrible mistake over 25 years ago, I feel your pain. I was immediately punished for my sin and was never able to conceive again. I too repent continually and I know from the bottom of my heart that the LORD has forgiven me but still carry so much pain and sadness. God bless you my friend and you are loved by the body of Christ.
With all respect, unless we put our focus on taking our country back, we will not be the ones deciding who is having children and who is not - the State will decide. If we want the family unit and country to flourish once again: Step 1, focus in your town/city/county/state election laws, removing voting machines etc (join the team at True the Vote https://truethevote.locals.com/ and Precinct Strategy https://precinctstrategy.com/. Regarding the WHO Pandemic Treaty, Sign this today: https://sovereigntycoalition.org/
I suggest transplanting the embryo of rapists into you and, if you're a woman, fertilizing your eggs with rapists' sperm, cmpalmer75. If you're a male, you can still be impregnated.The technology for male pregnancy and childbirth already exists. The only reason it's not used is because it carries a high risk of death for the pregnant man. That's a risk I'd be prepared to have you take, as long as the embryo or fetus can be saved.
It's better than leaving the embryo or fetus in the body of a woman who might abort it.
Is this some of that male violence you were referring to in your other comment?
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"The technology for male pregnancy and childbirth already exists."
Bullshit.
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Since your comment is so aggressive, and your other comment said all men are violent, you must be a man.
Men don't speak for women.
In fact, women don't speak for other women.
Ipso facto, you don't get to use the tragedy of rape to make your point.
BTW, you might want to look into the statistics on pregnancy from rape (which is rare).
I was surprised to learn than many women who became pregnant from rape carry the pregnancy to term and many raise the child.
I would also point out the dirty little secret of human history. Most of us (all of us?) would find a rapist in our family tree if we looked back far enough.
Sexual promiscuity is not freedom. Women should value themselves more.
Thank you Dr Paul! I agree completely. It’s so refreshing to see someone with the courage to say the truth! Read God’s word in Psalm 139. It’s not about the “woman’s body”. It’s about the separate life within her that God created.
The only exception I can see for abortion is if the mother will die if the pregnancy continues -- for instance, in the case of ectopic pregnancy, which the fetal child can't survive in any event. Beyond that, the mother's life is rarely at risk in these times.
A child resulting from incest or rape is as much an innocent victim as the mother. Taking that life fixes nothing, doesn't undo the harm already done, and only expands and greatly magnifies the evil and the trauma. I'll never understand how anyone gives more importance to one person's emotional state than to the very life of an innocent unborn child, giving the death penalty to the child for a crime committed by someone else. Abortion after rape increases and magnifies the violence, resulting in the murder of a human being. There is nothing right, fair, kind, or just about that.
To save the life of the mother is an excuse. Unwanted embryos from rapists should be transplanted into you Sharrie. Better that this is done than leave the baby in the body of a womsn who may kill it.
The life of the mother, if genuinely threatened, must take priority. For her to suggest that saving a fully developed woman's life is not an "excuse," which is what saying there is "no excuse" implies, is morally depraved. And if embryonic transplant is feasible, which it is, how is it defensible to leave the baby in the body of a woman who is hostile to it if it can be safely transplanted into another woman who is much lower risk for harming it?
Obstetric medicine has progressed to the point where there is almost NEVER a situation where "the life of the mother" is at risk. That is a Planned Parenthood 'talking point.' An advertising slogan to kill more babies and sell more babies' organs to university Mengeles.
You mean yourself? I have not advocated for abortion. All you can offer is ad hominems. My suggestion would protect the baby better than anything you have to offer sunshine. GFY
Your aggressive personal attack says a lot about your character. The incidence of pregnancy after a rape is less than 1%. Almost all abortions are used as a means of birth control.
There are things available to prevent pregnancy after a rape. So you are basically advocating murdering babies. The laws of the universe will provide justice for those that advocate such vile practices. What you give in this life , you will get back ten fold in the next.
Multiple independent data sources corroborate that the US has thighest rate of matetnal mortality in the developed world. The only case in which I approve an abortion is where the mother's life is GENUINELY at risk, not for fake cases, of which there may be some. Nowhere have I advocated for abortion in any other circumstance apart from where the mother's life is genuinely endangered. Further, even if the incidence of pregnancy after rape is as low as you purport that it is, that's still a significant number of pregnancies. I don't advocate for the abortion of the rapist's child, I advocate for embryonic transplant of the baby from the rape victim into you. This is as sensible solution that is WIN WIN for everybody. You and the rapist win, the baby that carries the rapist's genes wins and the rape victim wins. She can cope with her PTSD better by not having the constant reminder of her traa, because you carry the rapist's child instead. There is no abortion. The baby stays alive. Do you have s better solution that does not violate the rights of the rape victim further and also protects the baby from the risk of harm by the rape victim? I doubt you do.
But you chose to attack me for not agreeing with abortion. The line of conversation is not embryonic transplant. Trolling on various platforms to see who you can offend is probably not the most productive use of your time. Perhaps doing fund raisers for rape victims who would like an embryonic transplant would be a better use of your time. Btw using data from the extremely corrupt agency funded by Bill Gates who practices eugenics and funds programs like “planned parenthood “ which is basically a “kill your child for the planet” scam is not the best reference for your argument. Unless you always use biased left leaning resources.
You have to keep in mind that the US ranks 29th in cross national comparisons for mean IQ and that American mean IQ is subnormal by nearly 1/4 of a standard deviation. That's partly, but not entirely due to dysgenics, for which you advocate, whether you realize it or not. Perhaps you do realize it. It's always best to be careful not to attribute to mere stupidity that which arises from malice. If you can discredit the methodology of the data sources then do so. Merely seeking to characterize them on a simplistic left/right continuum is a fallacious form of argument. The technology for ectogenesis and transfer of the fetus, at any stage of gestation into you, and even into your husband is steadily improving. There is a risk that the host may not survive, but that is a risk I would have no hesitation in having you take, PROVIDED that the baby survives. Whether or not, the line of conversation is embryonic transplant is irrelevant. We must look for improved solutions. Your proposal is to subject
the baby to increased risk by leaving it in the womb of a woman who may harm it, rather than transplanting it into someone who would not harm it. It SHOULD be mandated by lottery that someone like you has to carry the baby, whether she wants to or not. This would better respect the rights of the woman with the unwanted child than any solution that you have to offer. All you have to offer is unnecessary risk to the unborn child. The risk of you killing it is low. You should be the incubator for it when the risk to the baby from the procedure is low. Thank you for your suggestions with regard to use of my time. There are many projects to which I could donate it. I wil not be dictated to by control freaks. I use some of my time helping women already. Embryonic transfer is not my preferred solution to abortion. My preference is for feminists to never get pregnant in the first place. If they don't get pregnant then there will be few abortions, because it is mostly feminists, rather than pro-life women, who abort. Feminists and their genetic offspring, the babies we save from abortion, are a menace to society. I want them eliminated from the gene pool without the barbarity of abortion. Thus I propose that it be made a criminal offence for men to impregnate or provide sperm to them. All women should have to register with a vetting agency that will vet them for feminist tendencies. Those who pass the vetting and are fit to be given a clearance should receive a Certificate of Non-Feminism. Any man that has sexual relations with, marries, or donates sperm to a woman not in possession of a valid vlearance should be subjected to the harshest of criminal penalties. If these lowlife women cannot get pregnant then there will be no need for abortion and their lowlife genes and the lowlife genes of the males who are so low as to sleep with a feminist will not be passed on.
Please move on. You are ranting. You are making assumptions and attacking people. I am done responding to your lunacy. Writing an essay doesn’t make you look smart in this instance. You are coming across as psychotic. Go back to my one line original statement. If you don’t agree with abortion, great, neither do I. Let’s leave it at that.
I spent years as a peer counsellor at a crisis pregnancy centre. Counselled and tried to help post abortive women. These mothers of dead children were well and truly broken. There is no way any mother has her own preborn child killed without physical, spiritual and emotional consequences. Abortion is a dangerous, inhuman, disastrous product. Anyone who sells this product to women in a crisis pregnancy instead of the real help she needs should be locked up. There is no such thing as a "hard case" or medically necessary preborn child killing. End of story.
Thank you Elizabeth for your comment and thank your for truly trying to help women .
I agree with you. I have a close friend that had an abortion at a very young age 40yrs ago . The regret never leaves her ; even though she had 3 children eventually, the emptiness and sadness from the end of her first child’s life has never left her.
I am also against abortion. It breaks my heart to know what they do to the unborn babies. My sister's friend had nine abortions and has zero regret. I do not know anyone like that.
I also knew a woman that had almost that many abortions too. I cannot understand how someone cannot be responsible and use birth control ? Responsible use of birth control should be stressed as a very important viable solution to unwanted pregnancy. I don’t understand why women or men would want to end an unborn child’s life instead of using a birth control method ?
The abortion pill paved the way for women to use abortion as a method of “birth control.”
It was many years ago, but I read a Psychologist who argued Mothers who repeatedly abort are caught in a trauma cycle.
And until they face their pain and choose life for the current Child they’re carrying, they’re compelled to keep punishing themselves (and their Babies) in same horrific way.
Their coldness we see is part of their injury.
Abortion is a direct result of ‘birth control.’ The contraceptive mentality was the FOUNDATION for the abortion industry. Planned parenthood and the eugenics ideologues who founded it transformed a society with sexual standards and appreciation for children into one of loathing for children and rampant promiscuity. It’s success as an industry relies on pushing the idea that children are a burden AND that the sexual act can become animalistic recreation rather than the act of procreation. The whole idea of ‘contraception’ is anti human, anti child and anti God. The notion that anything but abstinence or sterilization prevents pregnancy in women of child bearing age is a lie. The abortion industry is based on this lie. Their marketing strategy relies upon pushing promiscuity and premarital sex AND contraception because they KNOW the high failure rate of the mechanical and chemical methods of so called ‘birth control’.
It's because feminists tend to be malignant narcissists and selfishness and lack of empathy are core characteristics Barb.
Abortion will be a thing of the past in 10 years.
We'll be able to end it forever
Ectogenesis developments are moving fast. We'll be able to keep the fetua alive at any stage of gestation and transplant it from a pro-abortion woman nto a pro-life woman, or even into a pro-life man. Isn't that good news? If the Dems are smart they'll introduce a conscription lottery to see who gets forced to carry the child, because I can't see many of you putting your hands up. I have a very low opinion of feminists and women who abort, very low, but I wouldn't be volunteering. I'd prefer you do it.
Abortion may very well be a thing of the past in 10 years, but if so it will be because there are no unborn babies to abort anymore. Already planned parenthoods are transitioning to trans clinics...and not because roe was 'overturned'. OK, I have no links to articles. I only know the 'word on the street'. But I'm throwing it out there anyway to see if it may strike a chord anywhere.
You’re referencing the Infertility element of the ClotShots.
They’re really going to have to get the Guillotines a-choppin’ to kill off all the Elderly since Social Security won’t have much of a young workforce to fund it.
So many to kill, so little time.
What do you mean Jamie?
If the shots are harming fertility, there may not be many pregnancies. If livestock is being injected or going to be injected, we all become 'vaxxed', furthering the infertility. If masks reduce sperm, if GMO's reduce sperm and/or cause PCOS, if chemtrails contain fertility harming chemicals, etc. I mean, it seems the assaults on fertility are coming from everywhere. Clearly the powers that be do not want us proles reproducing. Maybe they will achieve their aim, at least by quite a bit. Planned Parenthood may have been involved in giving opposite sex hormones for some time, don't know, but I am recently hearing about it and hadn't before. So I hope I clarified a bit, but maybe it will also help to say I am kind of free-associating. I am not trying to make an argument replete with references. I'm just engaging. Thank you for humoring me!
That's a good comment. The shots affect primarily the ovaries and to a great extent also the testes. I think it was Dr. Thorp, an ObGyn, who pointed out that the shots may be sterilizing female fetuses in the womb with many millions affected but that it may take 20 years to find out.
Agree and support - I am not an aborted pregnancy
I was adopted at birth-I am a contributing human-
Thank you for this post
God does not bless us with children to destroy them. Every child is a blessing.
Truth.
The technical term for a miscarriage is "natural abortion," Coco. 40 of these happen every minute. I'm trying to figure out who is responsible for destroying these children, Coco. Is it Satan? Who has dominion over nature Coco because that's who is destroying 40 children every minute? Who is it?
The technical term is “spontaneous abortion.”
Both terms are used.
Nope. Natural abortion is something someone does electively. Spontaneous abortion is a miscarriage. But I’m done here because I know from your comments on other posts you think you’re the smartest person in the world. Tootles.
Nope, abortion will soon be a thing of the past. We're going to be able to prevent abortion by transplanting the fetus first into an artificial womb and then into feminists like You. .
Enjoy!
Artificial Wombs Will Change Abortion Rights Forever
https://www.wired.com/story/ectogenesis-reproductive-health-abortion/
You really are dumb
I am the furthest thing from a feminist. What exactly about my comment saying a “natural abortion” is not a miscarriage means I’m a feminist? You make many valid points on things but then make these kind of comments. So odd.
And I long for the day we get rid of abortion but not because of the sick way you want to do it.
I would love to say I had high moral and spiritual principles at age 20 when I did NOT have an abortion amid great pressure to do so........It was by the grace of God and because I was deathly afraid of doctors and the medical system that I did not have an abortion.
Thank God!
My firstborn son is awesome as are all his brothers.
I thank God every day for each of them and for God standing by me and protecting me through each pregnancy.
I taught at alternative high schools and made sure my students, young men and young women, could talk to me when faced with pregnancy - and that I told them, no matter what, they'd never regret a baby. And I fought hard for nurseries in schools for young parents.
Years ago when I was about 18/19 (?) I worked in a grocery store. A young woman only slightly older than me, a shift manager with whom I worked quite often, became pregnant. Unmarried. Finding me alone in our cash draw counting room, she told me. She said she was thinking about getting an abortion. She wanted to know (for some reason!) what I thought, what I'd do.
While I forget exactly what I said, it was something along the lines of while we (women/girls) can have abortions, I would never do it. I would take the responsibility. Even if her boyfriend didn't want the baby (hers didn't), that baby was a part of 𝒉𝒆𝒓. Unique in every way. Connected to her. So, while "inconvenient," how does one destroy that willfully? So, you wanna know what I'd do? I would have that baby if it was meant to be. Come what may. You'll figure it out.
Fast forward. She ended up having the baby (a boy). She came back to work with her mother's help. When the baby was probably a few months old, "Betty" (not her real name) came to me. She was talking about her baby, how beautiful he was, how she could not get over how much she loved him. Now with her beautiful baby, she said she simply could not imagine killing him, not having him.
Then came the part I'll remember forever. She went on to tell me that every single other person she talked to about her "situation" told her to have the abortion. That I was the only person who advised her to keep her pregnancy, to have that baby. The only one and she would never forget me. (Tears then, tears now.)
Beautiful. With God's grace you saved that baby boy (and his mother) with your honest, compassionate counsel.
❤️ Thank you...
You were wise at 18 - or 19!
Thank you for writing, and now I have tears.......isn't it marvelous and mysterious how God works?!
"Betty" came to you, asked YOU for direction, while everyone around her pounded her with what she "had" to do, as they did with me, and it was you that gave her permission to listen to her heart, and the heart of her child, her son.
Your story has made my day.
❤️ Thank you, Jill. That was a long time ago, but I've often thought of that -- virtually always when this subject comes up. I think -- all being well -- that "Betty's" baby is now a man in his late 40's. God does work in mysterious ways.
To your point about her heart, I think that's exactly right. I did very little except be truthful with her. She asked; I told her. What I believe is that she needed to hear from at least 𝒐𝒏𝒆 𝒑𝒆𝒓𝒔𝒐𝒏 that what she really wanted deep down was the better way -- despite all the difficulties her circumstances presented. I had no idea until she told me that I was that only person.
As for me being wise, all credit must go to my mother. Loving and wise beyond measure, but also based in reality -- hard reality. She never fluffed stuff up or blew sunshine...She was the center of my world. Of the many wise things she said to me, here are two I think of often: Live in a way that allows you to always do two things: 1) Look in mirror without shame and 2) Put your head on the pillow at night...
This is beautiful- As an adopted at birth and always knew I was adopted I was always grateful for my parents.
When I was 40 I found my birthmother and 3 siblings and a big family.
Two years ago I was able to connect and meet my birthfather-
I’m a baby boomer and am so happy to have my new family- my parents adopted parents are both deceased.
Hit bottom before done- thank you for your comments and spreading the word to help young women and for your story- thank you
100% agree...however I am not clean or free from big sin on this one. I made the wrong decisions as a young man. I realize that now. I repent constantly. I can't shame or judge anyone around the sin I've committed (of course)...only encourage them to think about reconsidering the truths about all of this now.
As a woman who made the same terrible mistake over 25 years ago, I feel your pain. I was immediately punished for my sin and was never able to conceive again. I too repent continually and I know from the bottom of my heart that the LORD has forgiven me but still carry so much pain and sadness. God bless you my friend and you are loved by the body of Christ.
Thanks for sharing and Bless you too Sister.
Wishing you peace in God's love and grace.
You only have to repent once. Repent and let it go. We all made bad decisions in our youth.
That takes a lot of guts to write that! I admire you.
With all respect, unless we put our focus on taking our country back, we will not be the ones deciding who is having children and who is not - the State will decide. If we want the family unit and country to flourish once again: Step 1, focus in your town/city/county/state election laws, removing voting machines etc (join the team at True the Vote https://truethevote.locals.com/ and Precinct Strategy https://precinctstrategy.com/. Regarding the WHO Pandemic Treaty, Sign this today: https://sovereigntycoalition.org/
100%
Agree!!!
Agree
Ditto!!
I'm pro-life as well.
I suggest transplanting the embryo of rapists into you and, if you're a woman, fertilizing your eggs with rapists' sperm, cmpalmer75. If you're a male, you can still be impregnated.The technology for male pregnancy and childbirth already exists. The only reason it's not used is because it carries a high risk of death for the pregnant man. That's a risk I'd be prepared to have you take, as long as the embryo or fetus can be saved.
It's better than leaving the embryo or fetus in the body of a woman who might abort it.
Is this some of that male violence you were referring to in your other comment?
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"The technology for male pregnancy and childbirth already exists."
Bullshit.
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Since your comment is so aggressive, and your other comment said all men are violent, you must be a man.
Men don't speak for women.
In fact, women don't speak for other women.
Ipso facto, you don't get to use the tragedy of rape to make your point.
BTW, you might want to look into the statistics on pregnancy from rape (which is rare).
I was surprised to learn than many women who became pregnant from rape carry the pregnancy to term and many raise the child.
I would also point out the dirty little secret of human history. Most of us (all of us?) would find a rapist in our family tree if we looked back far enough.
Sexual promiscuity is not freedom. Women should value themselves more.
Also, embryo transfer from one woman to another isn't a thing. Just sayin'.
Ridiculous, aggressively uncalled for comment.
No worries. He clearly has some demons.
What is it with this guy?
Agree.
By virtue of each one of us here reading this post, our very lives give testimony to the humanity of our entire life cycle, from womb to tomb.
Thank you Dr Paul! I agree completely. It’s so refreshing to see someone with the courage to say the truth! Read God’s word in Psalm 139. It’s not about the “woman’s body”. It’s about the separate life within her that God created.
The only exception I can see for abortion is if the mother will die if the pregnancy continues -- for instance, in the case of ectopic pregnancy, which the fetal child can't survive in any event. Beyond that, the mother's life is rarely at risk in these times.
A child resulting from incest or rape is as much an innocent victim as the mother. Taking that life fixes nothing, doesn't undo the harm already done, and only expands and greatly magnifies the evil and the trauma. I'll never understand how anyone gives more importance to one person's emotional state than to the very life of an innocent unborn child, giving the death penalty to the child for a crime committed by someone else. Abortion after rape increases and magnifies the violence, resulting in the murder of a human being. There is nothing right, fair, kind, or just about that.
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Agree 100%. No excuse for abortion in this day and age. The unborn must be protected.
To save the life of the mother is an excuse. Unwanted embryos from rapists should be transplanted into you Sharrie. Better that this is done than leave the baby in the body of a womsn who may kill it.
Shocking, aggressively uncalled for comment.
The life of the mother, if genuinely threatened, must take priority. For her to suggest that saving a fully developed woman's life is not an "excuse," which is what saying there is "no excuse" implies, is morally depraved. And if embryonic transplant is feasible, which it is, how is it defensible to leave the baby in the body of a woman who is hostile to it if it can be safely transplanted into another woman who is much lower risk for harming it?
Obstetric medicine has progressed to the point where there is almost NEVER a situation where "the life of the mother" is at risk. That is a Planned Parenthood 'talking point.' An advertising slogan to kill more babies and sell more babies' organs to university Mengeles.
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/maternal-mortality
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2020/nov/maternal-mortality-maternity-care-us-compared-10-countries
Well these comments are weird even for you! Too bad we can’t block insensitive nut jobs.
You mean yourself? I have not advocated for abortion. All you can offer is ad hominems. My suggestion would protect the baby better than anything you have to offer sunshine. GFY
Your aggressive personal attack says a lot about your character. The incidence of pregnancy after a rape is less than 1%. Almost all abortions are used as a means of birth control.
There are things available to prevent pregnancy after a rape. So you are basically advocating murdering babies. The laws of the universe will provide justice for those that advocate such vile practices. What you give in this life , you will get back ten fold in the next.
Absolute nonsense Sharrie
Multiple independent data sources corroborate that the US has thighest rate of matetnal mortality in the developed world. The only case in which I approve an abortion is where the mother's life is GENUINELY at risk, not for fake cases, of which there may be some. Nowhere have I advocated for abortion in any other circumstance apart from where the mother's life is genuinely endangered. Further, even if the incidence of pregnancy after rape is as low as you purport that it is, that's still a significant number of pregnancies. I don't advocate for the abortion of the rapist's child, I advocate for embryonic transplant of the baby from the rape victim into you. This is as sensible solution that is WIN WIN for everybody. You and the rapist win, the baby that carries the rapist's genes wins and the rape victim wins. She can cope with her PTSD better by not having the constant reminder of her traa, because you carry the rapist's child instead. There is no abortion. The baby stays alive. Do you have s better solution that does not violate the rights of the rape victim further and also protects the baby from the risk of harm by the rape victim? I doubt you do.
But you chose to attack me for not agreeing with abortion. The line of conversation is not embryonic transplant. Trolling on various platforms to see who you can offend is probably not the most productive use of your time. Perhaps doing fund raisers for rape victims who would like an embryonic transplant would be a better use of your time. Btw using data from the extremely corrupt agency funded by Bill Gates who practices eugenics and funds programs like “planned parenthood “ which is basically a “kill your child for the planet” scam is not the best reference for your argument. Unless you always use biased left leaning resources.
You have to keep in mind that the US ranks 29th in cross national comparisons for mean IQ and that American mean IQ is subnormal by nearly 1/4 of a standard deviation. That's partly, but not entirely due to dysgenics, for which you advocate, whether you realize it or not. Perhaps you do realize it. It's always best to be careful not to attribute to mere stupidity that which arises from malice. If you can discredit the methodology of the data sources then do so. Merely seeking to characterize them on a simplistic left/right continuum is a fallacious form of argument. The technology for ectogenesis and transfer of the fetus, at any stage of gestation into you, and even into your husband is steadily improving. There is a risk that the host may not survive, but that is a risk I would have no hesitation in having you take, PROVIDED that the baby survives. Whether or not, the line of conversation is embryonic transplant is irrelevant. We must look for improved solutions. Your proposal is to subject
the baby to increased risk by leaving it in the womb of a woman who may harm it, rather than transplanting it into someone who would not harm it. It SHOULD be mandated by lottery that someone like you has to carry the baby, whether she wants to or not. This would better respect the rights of the woman with the unwanted child than any solution that you have to offer. All you have to offer is unnecessary risk to the unborn child. The risk of you killing it is low. You should be the incubator for it when the risk to the baby from the procedure is low. Thank you for your suggestions with regard to use of my time. There are many projects to which I could donate it. I wil not be dictated to by control freaks. I use some of my time helping women already. Embryonic transfer is not my preferred solution to abortion. My preference is for feminists to never get pregnant in the first place. If they don't get pregnant then there will be few abortions, because it is mostly feminists, rather than pro-life women, who abort. Feminists and their genetic offspring, the babies we save from abortion, are a menace to society. I want them eliminated from the gene pool without the barbarity of abortion. Thus I propose that it be made a criminal offence for men to impregnate or provide sperm to them. All women should have to register with a vetting agency that will vet them for feminist tendencies. Those who pass the vetting and are fit to be given a clearance should receive a Certificate of Non-Feminism. Any man that has sexual relations with, marries, or donates sperm to a woman not in possession of a valid vlearance should be subjected to the harshest of criminal penalties. If these lowlife women cannot get pregnant then there will be no need for abortion and their lowlife genes and the lowlife genes of the males who are so low as to sleep with a feminist will not be passed on.
Please move on. You are ranting. You are making assumptions and attacking people. I am done responding to your lunacy. Writing an essay doesn’t make you look smart in this instance. You are coming across as psychotic. Go back to my one line original statement. If you don’t agree with abortion, great, neither do I. Let’s leave it at that.