Agree that this has been a nightmare in the way it was handled and probably how it originated but, "that COVID is and was just a regular influenza-like illness."-absolutely not. I've been an inpatient nurse for 19 years and there has never been a flu season like covid. Never have so many filled up our hospital so fast and required oxygen…
Agree that this has been a nightmare in the way it was handled and probably how it originated but, "that COVID is and was just a regular influenza-like illness."-absolutely not. I've been an inpatient nurse for 19 years and there has never been a flu season like covid. Never have so many filled up our hospital so fast and required oxygen. Never have I seen bodies lying in the ante-room because the morgue was full, never have I had to take care of 12 patients at a time, and never have I seen patients that looked well enough to go home soon, just drop and code after continuing to take off their oxygen. I will continue to remember the young man in his 20's that I had to send to step down because we could not keep his O2 saturation up without high flow. He lingered for 3 more weeks after being sent to ICU and intubated before dying. And my 56 yr old friend who died at home after starting to recover from covid who refused to consult with any medical professional and apparently refused to follow any protocol that I published regularly on my FB feed because apparently he had started to see me as someone untrustworthy once I posted that covid was not just a regular flu?
When you say, "COVID", how is this being diagnosed?
Would it be
a) an AMBIGUOUS clinical diagnosis of a non-distinguishing syndrome?
or b) a 100% bogus "test", which has never been calibrated to any real-world Certified Reference Materials, i.e., actual purified viral isolates obtained from a sick person, without being contanimated by foreign DNA (e.g., Vero/Monkey Kidney cells, fetal bovine serum, A549 human lung cancer cells, etc)?
They couldn't keep their O2 above 88% on 2 liters of oxygen. That's something they all had in common to be admitted. The rest is not relevant to the fact that very ill people flooded our hospital and too many died.
I can only tell you about my hospital. Before the covid peak hit we had a ship ready to take patients, but only non-covid patients. One of my patients was mad they wanted to transfer her there and I think she ended up going home sooner than expected. Even though patients were tested before transfer an outbreak started on the ship and then that was basically the end of that project. I know my floor was trying to transfer a non-covid pt with addiction and psych issues that they probably didn't appreciate. People were getting afraid to come to the doctor or hospital so the ER was pretty quiet the day I had to go for myself for a non-covid issue. The covid patients that needed to be hospitalized were transferred quickly until the beds got scarce. They opened up an outpatient treatment center and gave Remdesivir, oxygen and IV fluids and had them come back each day for follow up with home oxygen. And like I said all of our rooms became two person rooms.
On my med-surg floor which is a lower level of care the majority of our patients were 40-60 years of age. The most disturbing was a 23 yr old who had to be transferred and died 3 weeks later.
And my hospital and the one nearest my home have lots of multi-family households in the surrounding neighborhoods. I remember the big spike after Thanksgiving and many of the patients said their other family members were sick also.
Agree that this has been a nightmare in the way it was handled and probably how it originated but, "that COVID is and was just a regular influenza-like illness."-absolutely not. I've been an inpatient nurse for 19 years and there has never been a flu season like covid. Never have so many filled up our hospital so fast and required oxygen. Never have I seen bodies lying in the ante-room because the morgue was full, never have I had to take care of 12 patients at a time, and never have I seen patients that looked well enough to go home soon, just drop and code after continuing to take off their oxygen. I will continue to remember the young man in his 20's that I had to send to step down because we could not keep his O2 saturation up without high flow. He lingered for 3 more weeks after being sent to ICU and intubated before dying. And my 56 yr old friend who died at home after starting to recover from covid who refused to consult with any medical professional and apparently refused to follow any protocol that I published regularly on my FB feed because apparently he had started to see me as someone untrustworthy once I posted that covid was not just a regular flu?
When you say, "COVID", how is this being diagnosed?
Would it be
a) an AMBIGUOUS clinical diagnosis of a non-distinguishing syndrome?
or b) a 100% bogus "test", which has never been calibrated to any real-world Certified Reference Materials, i.e., actual purified viral isolates obtained from a sick person, without being contanimated by foreign DNA (e.g., Vero/Monkey Kidney cells, fetal bovine serum, A549 human lung cancer cells, etc)?
They couldn't keep their O2 above 88% on 2 liters of oxygen. That's something they all had in common to be admitted. The rest is not relevant to the fact that very ill people flooded our hospital and too many died.
1: You didn't answer my question. HOW are you diagnosing COVID?
a) AMBIGUOUS clinical diagnosis?
b) Bogus uncalibrated test?
2: Please review the CDC sysmptom guide and please show me were "low O2 blood levels" is a recognized symptom of "COVID".
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/symptoms-testing/symptoms.html
Your questions aren't relevant.
Bill's question was entirely relevant.
You simply opted not to answer the question...
Why did the tents, stadium, ships and all the other "temporary" structures for "overflow" never see anything more than a trickle of patients?
I can only tell you about my hospital. Before the covid peak hit we had a ship ready to take patients, but only non-covid patients. One of my patients was mad they wanted to transfer her there and I think she ended up going home sooner than expected. Even though patients were tested before transfer an outbreak started on the ship and then that was basically the end of that project. I know my floor was trying to transfer a non-covid pt with addiction and psych issues that they probably didn't appreciate. People were getting afraid to come to the doctor or hospital so the ER was pretty quiet the day I had to go for myself for a non-covid issue. The covid patients that needed to be hospitalized were transferred quickly until the beds got scarce. They opened up an outpatient treatment center and gave Remdesivir, oxygen and IV fluids and had them come back each day for follow up with home oxygen. And like I said all of our rooms became two person rooms.
I have never seen it addressed, by any of the talking head experts, why some hospitals overflowed.
Other than the numbers of the vulnerable living in the area.
On my med-surg floor which is a lower level of care the majority of our patients were 40-60 years of age. The most disturbing was a 23 yr old who had to be transferred and died 3 weeks later.
And my hospital and the one nearest my home have lots of multi-family households in the surrounding neighborhoods. I remember the big spike after Thanksgiving and many of the patients said their other family members were sick also.
Which Thanksgiving had a "big spike"? 2019? 2020?
2020.