I said my hospital was overwhelmed-with too many patients and too few beds and staff. I don't discount how badly covid was managed. I know it and tried to educate my fellow nurses every time I learned something new. I also spoke to a few doctors who are patient advocates. I also educated patients when I had relevant information. When I …
I said my hospital was overwhelmed-with too many patients and too few beds and staff. I don't discount how badly covid was managed. I know it and tried to educate my fellow nurses every time I learned something new. I also spoke to a few doctors who are patient advocates. I also educated patients when I had relevant information. When I discovered the FLCCC protocol I went to the ID doctor and asked if he had heard about it. I used the protocol on friends, myself and family. What happened was horrible, but when people say it was just a different strain of the flu; it is a false statement. And I guess you missed the part about our morgue being beyond capacity. That wasn't normal. My post wasn't about me being overworked with 12 patients and working OT; it was about what was happening to the people getting sick with covid when treatment protocols were in the early stages with the FLCCC. But for the record; lots of us still have some PTSD because we care about people and what they and their family went through.
So doctors were seeing and treating people as early as possible? As per usual...you know, early treatment saves lives. Early detection, early treatment saves lives. Or because people obeyed orders from psychopaths to stay in their homes, they were unable to get care -- or believed that no medicines existed to treat their symptoms because the source was some new "novel" virus thing??? What difference does the source of symptoms make??
"People with COVID-19 have had a wide range of symptoms reported – ranging from mild symptoms to severe illness. Symptoms may appear 2-14 days after exposure to the virus. Anyone can have mild to severe symptoms.
Possible symptoms include:
Fever or chills
Cough
Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
Fatigue
Muscle or body aches
Headache
New loss of taste or smell
Sore throat
Congestion or runny nose
Nausea or vomiting
Diarrhea
So, doctors refusing to see patients and give them anything for the above had nothing whatsoever to do with all these hospitals getting overwhelmed when untreated sick people got so sick they needed the hospital????
P.S. I have no interest in hearing about "strains" of anything. I want to know on what basis the people of this country are supposed to believe that these typical symptoms--treated at first indication--lay beyond the expertise of medical professionals to treat. Answer? They don't.
I am addressing you, Pamela. I'm asking what made the CDC's list of symptoms untreatable? I'm asking how doctors agreed to reverse overnight one of the basic aspects of medicine -- at the first signs of symptoms, seek care. I'm asking what difference does the source of symptoms make? Are the above so foreign that they would flummox doctors, making early care impossible?
I'll bet you worked very hard, but you did so in large part due to criminal conduct, Pamela, not because some "novel" virus came along. That criminal conduct included denying early care and treatment to uncountable numbers of innocent people who believed that their symptoms lay beyond the capabilities of the alleged-to-be best doctors and best hospitals and best healthcare in the world.
So after reading all of my comments why would you be asking these questions of a floor nurse who figured out that covid was treatable after studying the research and protocol from FLCCC and who has sought to educate others on what she learned? My original comment on this substack was that this was not just like another flu strain and I gave my reasons based on actual experience for my comment.
I figured out "COV!D" was treatable, too, Pamela -- long before I ever heard of the FLCCC.
The question that remains unanswered is why so many doctors thought otherwise and permitted people to become deathly ill. You mention the condition of patients you saw at this point in their illness, Pamela...the seriously ill.
Did you see patients with the sniffles, body aches, cough, fever, headache, sore throat, etc.? Or as a floor nurse in a hospital only those for whom untreated symptoms, including inflammation, had put their condition beyond care/treatment?
I can tell you that many doctors and nurses still completely trust the advice and directives. Few are open to possibilities that I know at my hospital. 99% of the patients were admitted because they required oxygen. I still don't understand why you are asking me these questions. I know early treatment and appropriate treatment would've changed the outcome for many.
Did you not question why these people seeking early treatment in hospitals were turned away and told essentially, not to come back until at death's door?
Knowing of therapeutic protocols such as Zelenko's and FLCCC, were there no discussions about using, or at the very least, recommending these protocols to newly infected who came for hospital treatment?
Or perhaps, were you already under CDC protocols mandating expensive (read PROFITABLE) Big Pharma meds like Remdesivir, respirators and intubation?
People come to my floor after a Dr. has deemed they need to be admitted. I don't triage or work in the ER. Why must you and others try to pin the blame of all on me and other health care workers who you come across on the internet?
I said my hospital was overwhelmed-with too many patients and too few beds and staff. I don't discount how badly covid was managed. I know it and tried to educate my fellow nurses every time I learned something new. I also spoke to a few doctors who are patient advocates. I also educated patients when I had relevant information. When I discovered the FLCCC protocol I went to the ID doctor and asked if he had heard about it. I used the protocol on friends, myself and family. What happened was horrible, but when people say it was just a different strain of the flu; it is a false statement. And I guess you missed the part about our morgue being beyond capacity. That wasn't normal. My post wasn't about me being overworked with 12 patients and working OT; it was about what was happening to the people getting sick with covid when treatment protocols were in the early stages with the FLCCC. But for the record; lots of us still have some PTSD because we care about people and what they and their family went through.
So doctors were seeing and treating people as early as possible? As per usual...you know, early treatment saves lives. Early detection, early treatment saves lives. Or because people obeyed orders from psychopaths to stay in their homes, they were unable to get care -- or believed that no medicines existed to treat their symptoms because the source was some new "novel" virus thing??? What difference does the source of symptoms make??
From the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/symptoms-testing/symptoms.html
"People with COVID-19 have had a wide range of symptoms reported – ranging from mild symptoms to severe illness. Symptoms may appear 2-14 days after exposure to the virus. Anyone can have mild to severe symptoms.
Possible symptoms include:
Fever or chills
Cough
Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
Fatigue
Muscle or body aches
Headache
New loss of taste or smell
Sore throat
Congestion or runny nose
Nausea or vomiting
Diarrhea
So, doctors refusing to see patients and give them anything for the above had nothing whatsoever to do with all these hospitals getting overwhelmed when untreated sick people got so sick they needed the hospital????
P.S. I have no interest in hearing about "strains" of anything. I want to know on what basis the people of this country are supposed to believe that these typical symptoms--treated at first indication--lay beyond the expertise of medical professionals to treat. Answer? They don't.
Not sure who you are addressing because if it is me you haven't actually read what I have posted.
I am addressing you, Pamela. I'm asking what made the CDC's list of symptoms untreatable? I'm asking how doctors agreed to reverse overnight one of the basic aspects of medicine -- at the first signs of symptoms, seek care. I'm asking what difference does the source of symptoms make? Are the above so foreign that they would flummox doctors, making early care impossible?
I'll bet you worked very hard, but you did so in large part due to criminal conduct, Pamela, not because some "novel" virus came along. That criminal conduct included denying early care and treatment to uncountable numbers of innocent people who believed that their symptoms lay beyond the capabilities of the alleged-to-be best doctors and best hospitals and best healthcare in the world.
So after reading all of my comments why would you be asking these questions of a floor nurse who figured out that covid was treatable after studying the research and protocol from FLCCC and who has sought to educate others on what she learned? My original comment on this substack was that this was not just like another flu strain and I gave my reasons based on actual experience for my comment.
I figured out "COV!D" was treatable, too, Pamela -- long before I ever heard of the FLCCC.
The question that remains unanswered is why so many doctors thought otherwise and permitted people to become deathly ill. You mention the condition of patients you saw at this point in their illness, Pamela...the seriously ill.
Did you see patients with the sniffles, body aches, cough, fever, headache, sore throat, etc.? Or as a floor nurse in a hospital only those for whom untreated symptoms, including inflammation, had put their condition beyond care/treatment?
I can tell you that many doctors and nurses still completely trust the advice and directives. Few are open to possibilities that I know at my hospital. 99% of the patients were admitted because they required oxygen. I still don't understand why you are asking me these questions. I know early treatment and appropriate treatment would've changed the outcome for many.
Did you not question why these people seeking early treatment in hospitals were turned away and told essentially, not to come back until at death's door?
Knowing of therapeutic protocols such as Zelenko's and FLCCC, were there no discussions about using, or at the very least, recommending these protocols to newly infected who came for hospital treatment?
Or perhaps, were you already under CDC protocols mandating expensive (read PROFITABLE) Big Pharma meds like Remdesivir, respirators and intubation?
People come to my floor after a Dr. has deemed they need to be admitted. I don't triage or work in the ER. Why must you and others try to pin the blame of all on me and other health care workers who you come across on the internet?