Great statements from Tucker & Kirsch but something stinks to high heavens, NOW it seems a move to MAINSTREAM mRNA Malone Bourla vaccine! Vigilant News covered, now taken down?
To draw a parallel as I see it, using mRNA (or plasmid DNA) to transfect human cells as a putative means to prevent disease severity or cure cancer or other diseases (or secretly to harm and kill) should be as forbidden as eating from the Tree of Knowledge in the Garden of Eden.
When you come right down; it does not matter how you spell P o I s o n. How you say it, how you spell it, how you write it. mRNA technology to the Human body is POISON. I had 6 friends who took from one dose to 5 doses. They are all DEAD today. One guy was a mid life Cardiologist. Another was an Engineer. Another was a Sales Manager. One died with his first Jab. He got sick within an hour and was dead 20 hours later. Another took the Jab and 4 boosters. He was found dead in his bed 12 hours after his last booster.
I have 3 friends left alive and healthy; all have never partaken of these Jabs. The odds are showing us quite simply that life without mNRA is much healthier!!!
Under EUA rules it is not a vaccine but a biological weapon counter measure. All the talk about it being a vaccine & the studies for its approval are fig leaves to conceal the true regulatory status of the bio weapon counter measures. Sasha Lapova has written in detail about this on her Substack.
Kirsch also dismissed Rancourt and hurried him along in some areas of their discussion. It was a strange interview. Kirsch seems to have different priorities. He is a Universal ID guy, so there's that...
Caveat Emptor…beware the Trojan Horses….they are already inside the city walls, the fox is in the hen house. And yet, Kirsch, Malone, Nass and others fail to sound the alarm….
SK had a figurative Come to Jesus moment (he is Jewish) after he had dodged the bullet of being vaccinated, but several of his friends & family were vaccine injured but the Jab. He has been a changed man and a crusader against the vaccine ever since.
He has paid a personal and professional price for this.
Laura, you haven’t been following him closely since then I don’t believe. You should review his weekly webinars to get up to speed, IMHO.
I’ve followed him. But the fact remains….Vint Cerf is helping to lead the 4th Industrial Revolution in my state. A named expert my state has referenced….along with David Roux who is has extremely close ties with Gates et al.
And I cannot understand why Nass, Malone, Kirsch, Kennedy and others will not actually name names. You know….the ones actually pulling the levers behind the curtain? Check out my substack.
They have literally set up in the backyard of Nass! And any attempt to get her to draw attention to the globalists operating stateside and building the infrastructure gets met with Nass telling me to shut up and go away. And when I drew attention to the social impact markets (what the NWO will run on with data as the new gold and us as human capital) Malone kicked me off his substack. And Kennedy was going to hire a Pfizer consultant to run CHD while he ran for president. Make it make sense?!
And as I said….Vint Cerf is helping to lead the charge in Maine. Go ahead and read the roadmap laid out with the Roux, Gates and Cerf as the experts advising….see experts listed on Page 35/36.
I am fully aware of what Kirsch argues. From where I sit, we are being sold a bill of goods by some in the medical freedom movement that is more hopium and calls for “reform.” Like Kennedy saying we should not get caught up in the quagmire of retribution. Or Malone and others keep circling back to referencing “blunders” or administrative incompetence. I call BS. Mistakes were not made. There are people who knew exactly what was done from the beginning. And my fear or concern is that either Kirsch et al are reluctant to make them because they do not want to alienate their peers of the past, or they lack a full understanding of exactly who they are in bed with.
And when I asked Nass if she knew who Vint Cerf is….her reply was, no idea. But yet she is fighting the globalists all over Europe while the technocrats are setting up their systems in her backyard. And if I suggest we need to pay attention to what is right under our nose…she gets nasty. Why is that?
Honestly, what is happening at the WHO doesn’t mean a wit or will not stop the 2030 agenda when at the state level the foundations, NGOs, philanthropaths have already captured the state governments like in Maine and elsewhere.
If Kirsch is serious about fighting the NWO then maybe he should stop talking about how highly he thinks of Gates.
There is only so much time in the day. I have other things to do that are important & I am not as busy as SK. He is looking at data, setting up evidence for trials for vaccine injured he is speaking on the basis of evidence that he has gathered & is credible. Not so sure that he can be as credible doing what you want him to do. IMHO , I am Ok with him tending his own store, & maintaining his credibility to fence sitters & persuadable opponents .
Ditto with Dr. Nass she is influencing & being informed on WHO Shenanigans.
Again IMHO she has an important role that along with trying to get her license restored and fighting the illegitimate sanctions against her in MA, she has her hands full. Besides, Maine has become a blue state & not sure how effective her efforts that you think she should be pursuing would be in that environment.
I tell you what, why don’t you just go do what you want them to do?
Don’t be the critic, be the man (or woman in your case) in the arena.
I get that you don’t have the resources that SK has, but Dr MN has lost her career and source of income and as a primary care physician she likely doesn’t have a huge bank account, so, go out and make some noise in a more public forum than Substack comments.
She got nasty because her hand are full and some no nothing critic is telling her what to do rather than doing it themselves.
BTW, I have no idea who you are and perhaps you are doing something meaningful.
Recently forcibly retired due to my COVID treatments & advice, I still have other projects and passions that keep me busy: overseas medical missions in 2 countries, volunteering in local homeless clinic, teaching English as a second language classes through our church & looking for another job, so I’m not free to drop those obligations.
Ha! And you assume I am not doing my part in raising awareness, educating people, fighting locally at schools board meetings or in other venues? I lost my mother to the vaccine…I diagnosed her, but it was too late by then the doctors had literally starved and dehydrated her to death. The vax caused sudden onset of myasthenia gravis at 82, full blown crisis and they missed it. I visited her and said…”Get a neurologist in, this is MG.” I regularly educate others. I’ve lost family and friends due to how vocal I am. I had to fight for exemptions for my daughters. I’ve testified at the state house. So please do not presume I’m just being a lazy negative Nelly.
I am sorry for your loss, and as I said, I don’t know you nor your story until now. I have not been personally affected as you have, but have tried unsuccessfully often to help families fight the system (outpatient doc at that stage in my career).
My impression is that people are not onboard with what they were before (& I confess that outside the FLCCC & VSRF, lawyer Jeff of COFFEE AND COVID & Paul Alexander’s Substack, I don’t know & can’t argue with you about who is still with the 15 minute cities crew— most don’t seem to be in my reading, but then I have not had confrontations with them as you apparently have.
It is a big war with lots of different theaters and a lot of battles to be fought on different levels and fronts.
Thank you. Yes it is. I just worry that we are being purposefully distracted and are all being laser pointed on the vaccine. Meanwhile, the agenda is moving full speed ahead. And if you try to point that out…the MFM thought leaders ostracize you….it begs a few questions?
You do know Dr. Nass self reported her self to the Maine authorities? And honestly…the latest round about MA going after her is well….begins to feel like “theatre”
Here is the thing….I am an attorney and I offered to help Nass and do research. I also offered early on, very early on to put her in touch with people in the education space who had been tracking the globalists well before the pandemic and were far more versed in Agenda 2030 than the MFM were or claimed to be. She had no interest.
She and I had a falling out of sorts
when I was shocked that Malone was claimed to have had no idea that the DOD was working on cyborgs. Yet he was also constantly claiming to be connected to the military and deep state players and being “in the know.” Heck, those of us in the education space had the whole cyborg stuff on radar since before the pandemic. So I said to Nass, “What gives….he claims to not know…I could have told you that?” After all, I had offered that kind of info and offered to connect them with people who had been mapping the 2030 Agenda in many sectors and states. She took offense and was indignant that I would question Malone?! My reaction was she was trying to intimidate or insult me into asking any further questions. And as I said, when I raised the issue of social impact markets which are arguably more important than the vaccine in stopping the MWO and coming fascism…well, he unsubscribed me and gave me a refund so I could no longer comment.
The issue we face is FAR BIGGER than the vaccine….and trust me, the likes of Nass, Malone, Kirsch and Kennedy know it…but they are just running out the clock by laser pointing on the vaccine.
Self reporting what were and are ethical medical practices unlike the Fauci dictates were likely a strategy to avoid or mitigate any sanctions, naive in retrospect but understandable to present at a board hearing and on appeal looks good.
I didn’t & got fired for my troubles: same outcome only I still have my license.
I understand that and did not think much of the self reporting until the latest shenanigans out of MASS that Nass is carrying on about.
As a lawyer, I can tell you the MASS pursuit of her is crap…and does not pass the straight face test under law. And yet…she doesn’t bother to address that, instead she carries on about the persecution.
Have you seen the movie on Netflix, produced by Obama, “Leave the
World Behind?” If not, watch it. Then get the book (it’s not a long read) and compare movie to the book. Very interesting.
I personally think part of the psych op is stoking division. They want to tear it down from within. You know…to “build back better.” So when I see what strikes me as theatre…it catches my attention.
I went to the March Against Mandates in DC in January of 2022. Even then, looking back…something didn’t sit right in my gut. I ignored then, but not anymore.
Malone is a different case & I don’t know, but I am suspicious on the basis of what others have said, but unwilling to criticize him on hearsay (not that my little ole country doc opinion would matter).
But I think shooting our wounded, which is what I see you doing is not helpful.
Let them do their thing realizing they are doing the best they can; and you do what you can in areas that they aren’t or can’t.
What I see is a new set of “experts” just as willing to silence and censor people who raise legitimate concerns….and that has caused me to ask valid questions about why they avoid certain topics and also work to control the narrative.
Has it not occurred to you that the “team” seems to fall into certain positions…let’s say Kennedy gets elected…who will head the FDA? How about the CDC? And who will be the White House tech advisor? Hmmm….and of course, lots of promises that those who have made their living as part of the “system” will reform it. Give me a break. Malone wants us to believe his government lied to him…my position is that when you work within the system as he did…well, guess what….he knew exactly what it was all about. I stopped practicing law because I knew the system would change me. And let’s not just gloss over that all of these guys were largely on board with much of the Agenda 2030 goals….so again, it is not really about “pandemic policy” or the vaccine….it’s about a whole lot of stuff and many of us knew not to take the vaccine because we went down the rabbit hole years earlier. But yeah, these guys tell us to step off as they bask in their hero status.
FLCCC, Paul Alexander, Peter McCullough, VSRF are who I pay attention to & some others (Midwest Doctor) are any of those players people who are trying to censor others as you say? I am going for a run & won’t be playing for a while…
And if you think the MFM is doing great things jetting around the world, forming foundations, etc. and that the tide is going to shift….well, I’d suggest you do a little research on the American Medical Association for starters. Go ahead and look at who was placed in the CEO position around 10 years ago and began setting the AMA on its course to fuse climate change and health. And look at what the focus of the AMA has been. Is it any surprise that doctors did not speak up? The AMA is captured and infiltrated….so again, we can shout about Tedros all day long, but even if you defeat the WHO with its pandemic shenanigans, but have we moved the needle at all on the home front?
The talk at the last FLCCC conference I was able to attend was about setting up parallel systems of care, licensing and credentialing, recognizing that the existing systems are compromised and corrupt.
That is laughable…parallel system?! So those who are taking away the licenses of people like Nass are just going to allow a separate system to be set up? Careful you are not being duped into them leading you exactly into the system envisioned by the globalists…precision medicine, running on data, with telehealth as a focus, etc.
And if you think that is going to be allowed….I have a bridge in the desert I will sell you. The whole point of Central Bank Digital Currency and Digital ID is no one can live outside the system. And if you think they are just going to allow parallel systems to be set up….I’m pretty sure you do not understand how the digital prison works. How are you going to pay your property taxes for your home or business? That’s just a simple example.
And not to be dramatic….but if you are staying abreast of what they are currently doing with drones and who has invested….psst….microsoft, China, Roux, etc. ….and how there is all this talk of drones being needed for “homeland security.” Meanwhile, have you seen where India just deployed drones to drop tear gas on protesting farmers?!
And yer everyone fawns over Malone talking about how he is just a homesteader and he tells people to get chickens and everything will be ok.
Oh…and didn’t we just find out that his pockets were lined by a nursing home guy?!
I think it is important to be as prepared as we can be for if and when they crash the economy so they can usher in the CBDC. People are going to beg for it like they begged for the vaccine. Best to get in a position where you can buy yourself time to think critically. Get out of debt so you will not have your accept their terms. That is at least one place to start.
There is an Indian tribe (Crow, I believe) that has their own healthcare system with licensing and credentialing that is outside of the State Medical Board System and accepts non-Indians as physicians into their system & is valid nation wide, because of their unique tribal status. I started to look into it last spring but then dropped it. Since they are an AA group I think it would be hard to shut them down.
I don’t think that people were thinking that the parallel system would replace the corrupt current system, but be a figurative place where alternative care practitioners (think prescribe ivermectin unhindered) could serve those who desired such care & were willing to pay for it. How it would evolve over time is anyone’s guess.
I don’t think that the people @ the FLCCC are down with that precision medicine system. As an early proponent of Evidence Based Medicine (EBM), some 35+ years ago, I am well aware how the Cochrane Library has been corrupted by Big Pharma $$, as is everyone I talk to in the FLCCC. We have all read Arnold Relman’s & Marcia Angel’s valedictory editorials in the NEJM decades ago and realize that things have only gotten worse.
Look, I am 73 & though I am quite competent within my field in the profession, I know that I am not going to live forever (unlike Bill Gates, & some of the guys in Google) and all I want to do is what I thought I was doing all along: provide good personalized care to my patients, but with the new realization that what I thought was right was not (the whole vaccine edifice is an oversold sham that is very likely causing a lot of chronic illness beyond autism (Wakefield was right!)).
I can lead horses to water, but I can’t make even my own family drink.
Have you read “Braiding Sweetgrass” by Robin Kimmerer? It is a balm for the soul. Was recommended to me at the start of the pandemic. Highly recommend.
Also, another favorite…Barbara Kingsolver’s “Poisonwood Bible.”
Appreciate your willingness to have an exchange. We all have things to learn as we make our way through these trying times.
Like you, I am out of debt, got a greenhouse at the start of the pandemic, was already an avid gardener. I am most at peace walking in the woods, no longer able to run miles on the road which was formerly my church. Where I processed and meditated while staying fit. A cancer survivor , and a big pharma victim…having saved my life twice by pushing back on expert advice. Mother, daughter, friend…determined but tired these days having begun the battle in earnest against the technocrats in education in 2018.
Best of luck to you.
You may find my substack on my cancer experience and toxic breast implants worth reading.
The Canadian Truckers convoy was kinda like the Alamo & Tampon man crushed them, but his actions have been judged illegal, and the farmers in Europe are taking a page from the Truckers book & now the US independent truckers are threatening NYC with no deliveries: point is the Alamo was not the end of the story and Abbot & his AG are carrying on that spirit.
Well I am out of debt, own our home and my car-but our retirement accounts include Vanguard bond funds, TIAA IRA, hospital defined benefits, and ~$900,000 in Apple stock that I can’t afford to sell because I inherited it from my dad who bought it @ ~$5/share so I donate to balance our portfolio per financial advisor recommendation. Don’t have gold & I am quite sure I couldn’t convince my wife to buy gold.
I am quite aware of the threat of CBDC, & will be using cash should they try to implement it ( from my frequent 3rd world travels, I find it preposterous that they think that it will work in those settings and that there won’t be substantial noncompliance in this country outside of blue states—have these people not heard of Prohibition and how that worked out?
I may be naive, but I don’t think Trump will allow that to transpire, and if Biden or some Democrat replacement is elected, we have bigger problems than CBDC—how is your Chinese btw?
In my view, the national sovereignty issues and the left vs right paradigms are veneer. The corporate technocrats (fin/tech elite) are transnational….and they are the ones driving the NWO/Agenda 2030.
To give you an example….Some fancy that Russia or Putin are not on board with the NWO. They think that Putin is pushing back with asserting Russian sovereignty. Yet, Russia is home to the WEF 4th Industrial Revolution Center.
And the one that really gets me is how everyone is loving on Governor Abbott in Texas with his challenge to the federal government around the influx of immigrants. I find it curious that he is taking this stand now in such a very public grandstanding way. Why now?
Here’s the thing, those of us who have been following and tracking the globalists in education know that Governor Abbott is of the WEF ilk. He is pushing in education the globalists interests in spades.
And many believe the plan is that Israel will be the capital of the new global order. And Israel definitely wants to be the lead on the tech and IT front, particularly on the security front. As I noted before, Airobotics is an Israeli company and the first to have the AI powered autonomous drone authorized for use.
It is easy to spot some of the players…like Trudeau. The trick is to spot the ones whose motivations are not always readily apparent.
Just like the guy who funded Moderna at its founding, Noubar Afayen, was the chair of the WEF committee on “Emerging Technologies” in 2014. Worth looking at his report on the top 10 Emerging Technologies in 2014….and reflecting on that it was written nearly 10 years ago. So we can assume that they have far more advanced technologies ready to deploy than they have let on. But again, the MFM thought leaders will not even entertain the idea that some of the lots of the vaccine might have ingredients that are for nefarious purposes, like graphene or possibly other things.
I am fully aware that the AMA is part of the problem and doing the bidding of Big Pharma & colluding with state licensing agencies, specialty boards, etc. to illegally threaten & sanction physicians who didn’t & don’t toe the line. Most physicians are employees and either have drunk the KoolAide or are afraid for their jobs and careers (families to support & children to educate, etc.) , bought too expensive a house & cars , lived too high when in Med school. Not the same profession that I thought I joined 50 years ago.
And that is just the tip of the iceberg. You really want to go down the rabbit hole….look into Schmidt and his role in funding and advancing 15 minute cities. And he is tied to Google, like Vint Cerf.
No…that’s not what I’m talking about. You need to trace the money to understand who is calling the shots and how they do it. That is where the light needs to be shone.
Look up Janes Madara, where he hails from….what his focus has been and who the AMA is in bed with….
Do you know who Eric Schmidt is? Again, the key is to trace the connections and money back to the fin/tech elite whose bidding is being done….
Agreed! Kirsch cannot be wobbly on the mRNA juice. Kirsch is a data guy, has done some amazing work in compiling the numbers of injuries and deaths caused by the mRNA jab juice,BUT… there is something that nags me about him, can’t put my finger on it. And now, for someone who counts on the numbers to be correct. He then needs to be correct and precise in his determination on the mRNA jab juice being bad for human assimilation and induction into the body. He cannot have it both ways. Does he stand by his findings or not?
I first heard Steve speak at the first FLCCC Educational Conference in Orlando, in October 2022. At that time I was just figuring out if and for whom I should recommend the Jab. I had pretty much decided I would support any decision that my patients made, but would only encourage older adults with co-morbidities to get vaccinated. Steve presented data by age groups & said no young or middle aged people should get it which confirmed my view, but he went on to say that there was no age at which the jabs made sense—I forget the data details, but they were impressive & changed my thinking and practice.
His data and conclusions have only gotten stronger with much more data on harms available to us all and analyzed by him & others.
I have never heard him say otherwise unless he was stating the countervailing argument just to refute it or in sarcasm, asI noted before.
I think Steve has a deadpan sarcastic response to a lot of things & often it takes a while for that to sink in or for the conversation to evolve before it becomes clear that he is meaning exactly the opposite of what was literally said.
Doc, your explanation and opinion on Kirsch may be what I’m missing. Simply put, I don’t trust him, so that’s a nag. Regardless…I will concede to your point that a deadpan does not wobble.
More people need to call them Transfection Agents in lieu of vaccines. They transfect cells and do not stay in the arm. There’s more but how much more does anyone need to know to understand this shit does not belong in their body.
I like Kirsch but don’t understand why he seemingly refuses to discuss the Graphene Oxide identified by Quinta Columna in Spain. Also, that when mass spectroscopy is carried out that the elements P and N are not present. No N or P indicates no mRNA.
To draw a parallel as I see it, using mRNA (or plasmid DNA) to transfect human cells as a putative means to prevent disease severity or cure cancer or other diseases (or secretly to harm and kill) should be as forbidden as eating from the Tree of Knowledge in the Garden of Eden.
When you come right down; it does not matter how you spell P o I s o n. How you say it, how you spell it, how you write it. mRNA technology to the Human body is POISON. I had 6 friends who took from one dose to 5 doses. They are all DEAD today. One guy was a mid life Cardiologist. Another was an Engineer. Another was a Sales Manager. One died with his first Jab. He got sick within an hour and was dead 20 hours later. Another took the Jab and 4 boosters. He was found dead in his bed 12 hours after his last booster.
I have 3 friends left alive and healthy; all have never partaken of these Jabs. The odds are showing us quite simply that life without mNRA is much healthier!!!
Here is where the facts get GREASY.
1. Vaccines have immunity to being sued.
2. mNRA originally did NOT qualify as a Vaccine, due to its recipe which could NOT be changed.
3. So to call mNRA a Vaccine and to have immunity they had to do something.
4. They changed the description of a Vaccine. Now it has that immunity which it DID NOT have prior.
SIMPLE - change what you call it and fool most everybody. What do you call a Successful Bioweapon?
Under EUA rules it is not a vaccine but a biological weapon counter measure. All the talk about it being a vaccine & the studies for its approval are fig leaves to conceal the true regulatory status of the bio weapon counter measures. Sasha Lapova has written in detail about this on her Substack.
Yes. Exactly.
100 %
Kirsch recently had Dr. Denis Rancourt on his show, and Rancourt had very interesting things to say about viruses: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/why-it-does-matter
Rancourt is a phenomenal scientist. His work was what showed that the vaccine has killed at least 17million. We should listen to him.
Kirsch also dismissed Rancourt and hurried him along in some areas of their discussion. It was a strange interview. Kirsch seems to have different priorities. He is a Universal ID guy, so there's that...
Honestly, I don’t believe any of them. If they have a huge platform and are allowed to get away with making millions, they are part of the Py Opts.
I would like to know why Epoch Times has given Malone a platform? Not too many I trust on this front. The only thing I trust is my gut.
Some call them "gate keepers" : https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/lies-not-discussed-within-the-truth
You might want to look into who Kirsch’s mentor was….he is with Google…Vint Cerf.
And then look at his thoughts around the “pandemic.”
How come it is that the likes of Malone, Nass and Kirsch avoid naming names when it comes to the technocrats driving the 2030 Agenda?
https://www.kirschfoundation.org/who/about.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/vintcerf/2020/05/21/vint-cerf-what-happened-when-i-got-covid-19-and-how-our-medical-system-must-change/
Caveat Emptor…beware the Trojan Horses….they are already inside the city walls, the fox is in the hen house. And yet, Kirsch, Malone, Nass and others fail to sound the alarm….
SK had a figurative Come to Jesus moment (he is Jewish) after he had dodged the bullet of being vaccinated, but several of his friends & family were vaccine injured but the Jab. He has been a changed man and a crusader against the vaccine ever since.
He has paid a personal and professional price for this.
Laura, you haven’t been following him closely since then I don’t believe. You should review his weekly webinars to get up to speed, IMHO.
I’ve followed him. But the fact remains….Vint Cerf is helping to lead the 4th Industrial Revolution in my state. A named expert my state has referenced….along with David Roux who is has extremely close ties with Gates et al.
And I cannot understand why Nass, Malone, Kirsch, Kennedy and others will not actually name names. You know….the ones actually pulling the levers behind the curtain? Check out my substack.
They have literally set up in the backyard of Nass! And any attempt to get her to draw attention to the globalists operating stateside and building the infrastructure gets met with Nass telling me to shut up and go away. And when I drew attention to the social impact markets (what the NWO will run on with data as the new gold and us as human capital) Malone kicked me off his substack. And Kennedy was going to hire a Pfizer consultant to run CHD while he ran for president. Make it make sense?!
https://lauragarcia.substack.com/p/tech-overlord-roux-of-the-northeast
https://lauragarcia.substack.com/p/tech-overlord-roux-of-the-northeast
https://open.substack.com/pub/lauragarcia/p/do-you-know-who-andrew-pek-is-and?r=yzi9x&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
And as I said….Vint Cerf is helping to lead the charge in Maine. Go ahead and read the roadmap laid out with the Roux, Gates and Cerf as the experts advising….see experts listed on Page 35/36.
https://www.maine.gov/future/sites/maine.gov.future/files/inline-files/Maine%20ERC%20Report_FINAL_11242020.pdf
And then consider that the model they are sitting up in Maine is expected to be a model in the US and even in other countries….have a look.
It got presented to none other than the Council in Foreign Relations.
https://www.cfr.org/blog/can-maine-model-bring-innovation-economy-rest-america
And in the Netherlands….
https://www.rvo.nl/sites/default/files/2021/10/Boston-The%20New-England-AI-Innovation-Ecosystem.pdf
I am fully aware of what Kirsch argues. From where I sit, we are being sold a bill of goods by some in the medical freedom movement that is more hopium and calls for “reform.” Like Kennedy saying we should not get caught up in the quagmire of retribution. Or Malone and others keep circling back to referencing “blunders” or administrative incompetence. I call BS. Mistakes were not made. There are people who knew exactly what was done from the beginning. And my fear or concern is that either Kirsch et al are reluctant to make them because they do not want to alienate their peers of the past, or they lack a full understanding of exactly who they are in bed with.
And when I asked Nass if she knew who Vint Cerf is….her reply was, no idea. But yet she is fighting the globalists all over Europe while the technocrats are setting up their systems in her backyard. And if I suggest we need to pay attention to what is right under our nose…she gets nasty. Why is that?
Honestly, what is happening at the WHO doesn’t mean a wit or will not stop the 2030 agenda when at the state level the foundations, NGOs, philanthropaths have already captured the state governments like in Maine and elsewhere.
If Kirsch is serious about fighting the NWO then maybe he should stop talking about how highly he thinks of Gates.
Well I had to look up VC.
There is only so much time in the day. I have other things to do that are important & I am not as busy as SK. He is looking at data, setting up evidence for trials for vaccine injured he is speaking on the basis of evidence that he has gathered & is credible. Not so sure that he can be as credible doing what you want him to do. IMHO , I am Ok with him tending his own store, & maintaining his credibility to fence sitters & persuadable opponents .
Ditto with Dr. Nass she is influencing & being informed on WHO Shenanigans.
Again IMHO she has an important role that along with trying to get her license restored and fighting the illegitimate sanctions against her in MA, she has her hands full. Besides, Maine has become a blue state & not sure how effective her efforts that you think she should be pursuing would be in that environment.
I tell you what, why don’t you just go do what you want them to do?
Don’t be the critic, be the man (or woman in your case) in the arena.
I get that you don’t have the resources that SK has, but Dr MN has lost her career and source of income and as a primary care physician she likely doesn’t have a huge bank account, so, go out and make some noise in a more public forum than Substack comments.
She got nasty because her hand are full and some no nothing critic is telling her what to do rather than doing it themselves.
BTW, I have no idea who you are and perhaps you are doing something meaningful.
Recently forcibly retired due to my COVID treatments & advice, I still have other projects and passions that keep me busy: overseas medical missions in 2 countries, volunteering in local homeless clinic, teaching English as a second language classes through our church & looking for another job, so I’m not free to drop those obligations.
Ha! And you assume I am not doing my part in raising awareness, educating people, fighting locally at schools board meetings or in other venues? I lost my mother to the vaccine…I diagnosed her, but it was too late by then the doctors had literally starved and dehydrated her to death. The vax caused sudden onset of myasthenia gravis at 82, full blown crisis and they missed it. I visited her and said…”Get a neurologist in, this is MG.” I regularly educate others. I’ve lost family and friends due to how vocal I am. I had to fight for exemptions for my daughters. I’ve testified at the state house. So please do not presume I’m just being a lazy negative Nelly.
I am sorry for your loss, and as I said, I don’t know you nor your story until now. I have not been personally affected as you have, but have tried unsuccessfully often to help families fight the system (outpatient doc at that stage in my career).
My impression is that people are not onboard with what they were before (& I confess that outside the FLCCC & VSRF, lawyer Jeff of COFFEE AND COVID & Paul Alexander’s Substack, I don’t know & can’t argue with you about who is still with the 15 minute cities crew— most don’t seem to be in my reading, but then I have not had confrontations with them as you apparently have.
It is a big war with lots of different theaters and a lot of battles to be fought on different levels and fronts.
Thank you. Yes it is. I just worry that we are being purposefully distracted and are all being laser pointed on the vaccine. Meanwhile, the agenda is moving full speed ahead. And if you try to point that out…the MFM thought leaders ostracize you….it begs a few questions?
You do know Dr. Nass self reported her self to the Maine authorities? And honestly…the latest round about MA going after her is well….begins to feel like “theatre”
Here is the thing….I am an attorney and I offered to help Nass and do research. I also offered early on, very early on to put her in touch with people in the education space who had been tracking the globalists well before the pandemic and were far more versed in Agenda 2030 than the MFM were or claimed to be. She had no interest.
She and I had a falling out of sorts
when I was shocked that Malone was claimed to have had no idea that the DOD was working on cyborgs. Yet he was also constantly claiming to be connected to the military and deep state players and being “in the know.” Heck, those of us in the education space had the whole cyborg stuff on radar since before the pandemic. So I said to Nass, “What gives….he claims to not know…I could have told you that?” After all, I had offered that kind of info and offered to connect them with people who had been mapping the 2030 Agenda in many sectors and states. She took offense and was indignant that I would question Malone?! My reaction was she was trying to intimidate or insult me into asking any further questions. And as I said, when I raised the issue of social impact markets which are arguably more important than the vaccine in stopping the MWO and coming fascism…well, he unsubscribed me and gave me a refund so I could no longer comment.
The issue we face is FAR BIGGER than the vaccine….and trust me, the likes of Nass, Malone, Kirsch and Kennedy know it…but they are just running out the clock by laser pointing on the vaccine.
Self reporting what were and are ethical medical practices unlike the Fauci dictates were likely a strategy to avoid or mitigate any sanctions, naive in retrospect but understandable to present at a board hearing and on appeal looks good.
I didn’t & got fired for my troubles: same outcome only I still have my license.
I understand that and did not think much of the self reporting until the latest shenanigans out of MASS that Nass is carrying on about.
As a lawyer, I can tell you the MASS pursuit of her is crap…and does not pass the straight face test under law. And yet…she doesn’t bother to address that, instead she carries on about the persecution.
Have you seen the movie on Netflix, produced by Obama, “Leave the
World Behind?” If not, watch it. Then get the book (it’s not a long read) and compare movie to the book. Very interesting.
I personally think part of the psych op is stoking division. They want to tear it down from within. You know…to “build back better.” So when I see what strikes me as theatre…it catches my attention.
I went to the March Against Mandates in DC in January of 2022. Even then, looking back…something didn’t sit right in my gut. I ignored then, but not anymore.
Malone is a different case & I don’t know, but I am suspicious on the basis of what others have said, but unwilling to criticize him on hearsay (not that my little ole country doc opinion would matter).
But I think shooting our wounded, which is what I see you doing is not helpful.
Let them do their thing realizing they are doing the best they can; and you do what you can in areas that they aren’t or can’t.
What I see is a new set of “experts” just as willing to silence and censor people who raise legitimate concerns….and that has caused me to ask valid questions about why they avoid certain topics and also work to control the narrative.
Has it not occurred to you that the “team” seems to fall into certain positions…let’s say Kennedy gets elected…who will head the FDA? How about the CDC? And who will be the White House tech advisor? Hmmm….and of course, lots of promises that those who have made their living as part of the “system” will reform it. Give me a break. Malone wants us to believe his government lied to him…my position is that when you work within the system as he did…well, guess what….he knew exactly what it was all about. I stopped practicing law because I knew the system would change me. And let’s not just gloss over that all of these guys were largely on board with much of the Agenda 2030 goals….so again, it is not really about “pandemic policy” or the vaccine….it’s about a whole lot of stuff and many of us knew not to take the vaccine because we went down the rabbit hole years earlier. But yeah, these guys tell us to step off as they bask in their hero status.
FLCCC, Paul Alexander, Peter McCullough, VSRF are who I pay attention to & some others (Midwest Doctor) are any of those players people who are trying to censor others as you say? I am going for a run & won’t be playing for a while…
I don’t think Kennedy will get elected, so I don’t spend any time thinking about that.
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And if you think the MFM is doing great things jetting around the world, forming foundations, etc. and that the tide is going to shift….well, I’d suggest you do a little research on the American Medical Association for starters. Go ahead and look at who was placed in the CEO position around 10 years ago and began setting the AMA on its course to fuse climate change and health. And look at what the focus of the AMA has been. Is it any surprise that doctors did not speak up? The AMA is captured and infiltrated….so again, we can shout about Tedros all day long, but even if you defeat the WHO with its pandemic shenanigans, but have we moved the needle at all on the home front?
The talk at the last FLCCC conference I was able to attend was about setting up parallel systems of care, licensing and credentialing, recognizing that the existing systems are compromised and corrupt.
That is laughable…parallel system?! So those who are taking away the licenses of people like Nass are just going to allow a separate system to be set up? Careful you are not being duped into them leading you exactly into the system envisioned by the globalists…precision medicine, running on data, with telehealth as a focus, etc.
And if you think that is going to be allowed….I have a bridge in the desert I will sell you. The whole point of Central Bank Digital Currency and Digital ID is no one can live outside the system. And if you think they are just going to allow parallel systems to be set up….I’m pretty sure you do not understand how the digital prison works. How are you going to pay your property taxes for your home or business? That’s just a simple example.
You need to watch this if you have not seen it.
https://youtu.be/DUHnC4DQS1M?si=nW-DIHTnbNGXabvr
And not to be dramatic….but if you are staying abreast of what they are currently doing with drones and who has invested….psst….microsoft, China, Roux, etc. ….and how there is all this talk of drones being needed for “homeland security.” Meanwhile, have you seen where India just deployed drones to drop tear gas on protesting farmers?!
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN1BI1TU/
https://www.euronews.com/2024/02/13/police-fire-tear-gas-from-drones-at-indian-farmers-protest
And yer everyone fawns over Malone talking about how he is just a homesteader and he tells people to get chickens and everything will be ok.
Oh…and didn’t we just find out that his pockets were lined by a nursing home guy?!
I think it is important to be as prepared as we can be for if and when they crash the economy so they can usher in the CBDC. People are going to beg for it like they begged for the vaccine. Best to get in a position where you can buy yourself time to think critically. Get out of debt so you will not have your accept their terms. That is at least one place to start.
There is an Indian tribe (Crow, I believe) that has their own healthcare system with licensing and credentialing that is outside of the State Medical Board System and accepts non-Indians as physicians into their system & is valid nation wide, because of their unique tribal status. I started to look into it last spring but then dropped it. Since they are an AA group I think it would be hard to shut them down.
I don’t think that people were thinking that the parallel system would replace the corrupt current system, but be a figurative place where alternative care practitioners (think prescribe ivermectin unhindered) could serve those who desired such care & were willing to pay for it. How it would evolve over time is anyone’s guess.
I don’t think that the people @ the FLCCC are down with that precision medicine system. As an early proponent of Evidence Based Medicine (EBM), some 35+ years ago, I am well aware how the Cochrane Library has been corrupted by Big Pharma $$, as is everyone I talk to in the FLCCC. We have all read Arnold Relman’s & Marcia Angel’s valedictory editorials in the NEJM decades ago and realize that things have only gotten worse.
Look, I am 73 & though I am quite competent within my field in the profession, I know that I am not going to live forever (unlike Bill Gates, & some of the guys in Google) and all I want to do is what I thought I was doing all along: provide good personalized care to my patients, but with the new realization that what I thought was right was not (the whole vaccine edifice is an oversold sham that is very likely causing a lot of chronic illness beyond autism (Wakefield was right!)).
I can lead horses to water, but I can’t make even my own family drink.
Have you read “Braiding Sweetgrass” by Robin Kimmerer? It is a balm for the soul. Was recommended to me at the start of the pandemic. Highly recommend.
Also, another favorite…Barbara Kingsolver’s “Poisonwood Bible.”
Appreciate your willingness to have an exchange. We all have things to learn as we make our way through these trying times.
Like you, I am out of debt, got a greenhouse at the start of the pandemic, was already an avid gardener. I am most at peace walking in the woods, no longer able to run miles on the road which was formerly my church. Where I processed and meditated while staying fit. A cancer survivor , and a big pharma victim…having saved my life twice by pushing back on expert advice. Mother, daughter, friend…determined but tired these days having begun the battle in earnest against the technocrats in education in 2018.
Best of luck to you.
You may find my substack on my cancer experience and toxic breast implants worth reading.
https://open.substack.com/pub/lauragarcia/p/breast-cancer-implants-big-pharma?r=yzi9x&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
And the second substack, part II
https://open.substack.com/pub/lauragarcia/p/part-ii-breast-implants-big-pharma?r=yzi9x&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
The Canadian Truckers convoy was kinda like the Alamo & Tampon man crushed them, but his actions have been judged illegal, and the farmers in Europe are taking a page from the Truckers book & now the US independent truckers are threatening NYC with no deliveries: point is the Alamo was not the end of the story and Abbot & his AG are carrying on that spirit.
Malone is Malone and I can’t do anything about him. I have other more reliable unconflicted sources.
Well I am out of debt, own our home and my car-but our retirement accounts include Vanguard bond funds, TIAA IRA, hospital defined benefits, and ~$900,000 in Apple stock that I can’t afford to sell because I inherited it from my dad who bought it @ ~$5/share so I donate to balance our portfolio per financial advisor recommendation. Don’t have gold & I am quite sure I couldn’t convince my wife to buy gold.
I am quite aware of the threat of CBDC, & will be using cash should they try to implement it ( from my frequent 3rd world travels, I find it preposterous that they think that it will work in those settings and that there won’t be substantial noncompliance in this country outside of blue states—have these people not heard of Prohibition and how that worked out?
I may be naive, but I don’t think Trump will allow that to transpire, and if Biden or some Democrat replacement is elected, we have bigger problems than CBDC—how is your Chinese btw?
In my view, the national sovereignty issues and the left vs right paradigms are veneer. The corporate technocrats (fin/tech elite) are transnational….and they are the ones driving the NWO/Agenda 2030.
To give you an example….Some fancy that Russia or Putin are not on board with the NWO. They think that Putin is pushing back with asserting Russian sovereignty. Yet, Russia is home to the WEF 4th Industrial Revolution Center.
https://www.weforum.org/press/2021/10/russia-joins-centre-for-the-fourth-industrial-revolution-network/
And the one that really gets me is how everyone is loving on Governor Abbott in Texas with his challenge to the federal government around the influx of immigrants. I find it curious that he is taking this stand now in such a very public grandstanding way. Why now?
Here’s the thing, those of us who have been following and tracking the globalists in education know that Governor Abbott is of the WEF ilk. He is pushing in education the globalists interests in spades.
https://www.weforum.org/people/greg-abbott/
https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/governor-abbott-to-lead-economic-development-mission-to-israel-and-switzerland
And many believe the plan is that Israel will be the capital of the new global order. And Israel definitely wants to be the lead on the tech and IT front, particularly on the security front. As I noted before, Airobotics is an Israeli company and the first to have the AI powered autonomous drone authorized for use.
It is easy to spot some of the players…like Trudeau. The trick is to spot the ones whose motivations are not always readily apparent.
Just like the guy who funded Moderna at its founding, Noubar Afayen, was the chair of the WEF committee on “Emerging Technologies” in 2014. Worth looking at his report on the top 10 Emerging Technologies in 2014….and reflecting on that it was written nearly 10 years ago. So we can assume that they have far more advanced technologies ready to deploy than they have let on. But again, the MFM thought leaders will not even entertain the idea that some of the lots of the vaccine might have ingredients that are for nefarious purposes, like graphene or possibly other things.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2014/09/top-ten-emerging-technologies-2014/
The alternative narrative of the MFM begins to feel a bit controlled by design.
I’m glad you are out of debt and will have the ability to make choices when they put the squeeze on. The vast majority will not be in that position.
I am fully aware that the AMA is part of the problem and doing the bidding of Big Pharma & colluding with state licensing agencies, specialty boards, etc. to illegally threaten & sanction physicians who didn’t & don’t toe the line. Most physicians are employees and either have drunk the KoolAide or are afraid for their jobs and careers (families to support & children to educate, etc.) , bought too expensive a house & cars , lived too high when in Med school. Not the same profession that I thought I joined 50 years ago.
Here….
https://www.ama-assn.org/about/leadership/placing-physicians-front-line-health-care-innovation
And that is just the tip of the iceberg. You really want to go down the rabbit hole….look into Schmidt and his role in funding and advancing 15 minute cities. And he is tied to Google, like Vint Cerf.
But we can all just keep shouting about Tedros.
No…that’s not what I’m talking about. You need to trace the money to understand who is calling the shots and how they do it. That is where the light needs to be shone.
Look up Janes Madara, where he hails from….what his focus has been and who the AMA is in bed with….
Do you know who Eric Schmidt is? Again, the key is to trace the connections and money back to the fin/tech elite whose bidding is being done….
NO to transfection. FULL 🛑!!!!
Agreed! Kirsch cannot be wobbly on the mRNA juice. Kirsch is a data guy, has done some amazing work in compiling the numbers of injuries and deaths caused by the mRNA jab juice,BUT… there is something that nags me about him, can’t put my finger on it. And now, for someone who counts on the numbers to be correct. He then needs to be correct and precise in his determination on the mRNA jab juice being bad for human assimilation and induction into the body. He cannot have it both ways. Does he stand by his findings or not?
I first heard Steve speak at the first FLCCC Educational Conference in Orlando, in October 2022. At that time I was just figuring out if and for whom I should recommend the Jab. I had pretty much decided I would support any decision that my patients made, but would only encourage older adults with co-morbidities to get vaccinated. Steve presented data by age groups & said no young or middle aged people should get it which confirmed my view, but he went on to say that there was no age at which the jabs made sense—I forget the data details, but they were impressive & changed my thinking and practice.
His data and conclusions have only gotten stronger with much more data on harms available to us all and analyzed by him & others.
I have never heard him say otherwise unless he was stating the countervailing argument just to refute it or in sarcasm, asI noted before.
I think Steve has a deadpan sarcastic response to a lot of things & often it takes a while for that to sink in or for the conversation to evolve before it becomes clear that he is meaning exactly the opposite of what was literally said.
I don’t think he is wobbly at all.
Doc, your explanation and opinion on Kirsch may be what I’m missing. Simply put, I don’t trust him, so that’s a nag. Regardless…I will concede to your point that a deadpan does not wobble.
So, yes, he does.
More people need to call them Transfection Agents in lieu of vaccines. They transfect cells and do not stay in the arm. There’s more but how much more does anyone need to know to understand this shit does not belong in their body.
I like Kirsch but don’t understand why he seemingly refuses to discuss the Graphene Oxide identified by Quinta Columna in Spain. Also, that when mass spectroscopy is carried out that the elements P and N are not present. No N or P indicates no mRNA.
Because he is busy enough with what he is doing with the mmRNA jabs, maybe?
Maybe priorities?
Not everyone is excited about Graphene Oxide, saw something in another stack that said it was a red herring.
Your near constant references and borderline idolatry to SH is discrediting of you.