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Any doctor or nurse who administered Remdesivir is a murderer.

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Tony touted AZT for fake AIDs, same template is constantly used by the domestic terrorist deep staters of power-greed.

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Tony refused low cost generic drugs like Bactrim to AIDS patients.

Sound familiar?

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Yep. More died from AZT than AIDS

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Tens of thousands more!

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And they were horrific agonizing deaths. I thought it was from AIDS but I remember an AIDs activist telling me the AZT drugs a family member was put on would kill him. I couldn't wrap my head around what he was saying. I can now.

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RFK Jr.s book on Fauci discusses it. The man deserves to burn in hell.

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You are absolutely right!

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As well as those who administered or in any way facilitated the Jabs, be it in a medical/legislative/legal or employment context, or who has denied to write or fill a RX for Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine.

Lots of innocent human blood on lots of hands.

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Sep 27, 2023·edited Sep 27, 2023

Any doctor and any hospital administrator who blocked patients from getting proper treatment— Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, Budesenide, I.V. steroids, antibiotics, and blood thinners dosed properly, vitamins C and D, etc., ARE ALSO MURDERERS!!!!!

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Disagree about IV steroids.....what is the medical indication? Where did you hear about the use of Steroids for this? BTW, Steroids come with a whole Titanic size load of some very nasty side effects. They have to be used VERY JUDICIOUSLY if at all. Using them for Covid protocol.....I don't know about going that route. You go first at your own risk and let me know how it works out for you!!

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Ms Hazur, what are your qualifications & experience to assert that IV steroids in higher doses than Saint Dr Fauci allowed were not indicated? Are you a MD intensivista? Do you have the published CV to complete with Dr Paul Marik or Pierre Kory, MD in intensive care medicine? Do you even know what organizing pneumonia is? that it was identified as a condition and treatment protocols were worked out prior to COVID, and when the same pattern of CT chest findings were noticed in very sick hospitalized COVID patients, those same high dose steroid protocols were successfully applied to the COVID patients with organizing pneumonia and they got better at a rate of 70-80%, as opposed to the 20-30% survival rate without high dose steroids?. Don’t believe me, I am just an old family doc. Rather,read the FLCCC MATH+ protocols, an listen to their webinars from the early months of the pandemic ; it is all documented there.

You are welcome, no charge for the education. Have a pleasant evening.

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I appreciate your info.

To answer your question, I was a Registered Nurse for many years, now retired.

I must say, that I found that questioning doctors was sometimes necessary for survival in the Medical field, and I do not apologize for having always put the best interests of my patients as a priority.

However, considering the reported widespread and high mortality of ventilated, ostensibly covid, patients, the FLCCC MATH PROTOCOL certainly appears to be somewhat less than unquestionable and flawless perfection. Consensus medicine based on algorhythmic models

claiming to "follow the science" seem to be in vogue. You claim to be a family doctor. As an Intensivist, how many Covid ICU patients were under your care during that period of time?

In the NIH NLM archives is a review of 12 studies including 2759 CV patients that demonstrated NO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES IN MORTALITY between high and low dose cortocosteroids, no difference in incidence of duration of hospital stay, length of time in ICU, on respiratory support or duration of mechanical ventilation. It was a relatively small sample, granted.

Of course there is much more to be discussed about the care patients received globally in hospital during the height of the covid crisis.... MUCH MORE

I really have to ask: do you usually talk down to your patients in such a sarcastic, defensive and condescending manner as you exhibited with me? An arrogant attitude isn't an appropriate look for you all things considered.

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Catherine, my apologies, I reserve that tone for people who IMHO are making assertions that appear to be beyond their experience, expertise &/or qualifications (one of the reasons that I include my professional title, & a friendly suggestion for you that you do the same).

We are both commenting as spectators on the issue of steroids in organizing pneumonia stage of COVID, though with differing knowledge of the game being played an occasional seat in the stands vs a season ticket holder’s marking up the scorecard as the game goes on.

I have done hospital medicine including ICU, but 20+ years ago. I am aware that docs will eff up more than occasionally, but also, from experience, that nurses will also second guess docs using appropriately innovative treatment.

I have followed closely the evolving evidence of early and non-Faucian evidence based, physiologic based, & treatment by analogy to similar patterns: hydroxychloroquine, Zpack, & zinc, inhaled budesonide; IVM; etc.

As I no longer have a hospital practice & I knew how poorly patients were treated & did in the hospital, I have done all I could to keep people out of the hospital w/ COVID. Early on , I was devoting my Wednesday evenings to the FLCCC webinars, reading their web pages & references (keeping a scorecard, if you will).

For some 30 years or so, (editorials by Arnold Relman & Marcia Angel, for example) I have been aware that the published medical literature is not reliable (& taught critical appraisal of the literature to the resident). This has gotten much worse with the Plandemic. The literature is censored & curated for us so that what you cited & reviewed has been cherry picked to get you to your conclusion.

Better evidence is what were the survival statistics of those ICUs and/or practitioners using the MATH+ protocol or major elements of it vs those bought & paid for by Pfizer.

Indeed there is much more to be said, but TPTB likely won’t allow it to be said & even if it were said, wouldn’t listen.

Have a pleasant evening

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People are also slowly being disabled and thus murdered by using computers and iphones. These are being programmed to sabotage people in their daily lives. The message is to either act as an extension of computers and thus become transhumans, or die trying to stay sane, but in the end it is the same murderous goal. Children and young people are being the worst hit, and parents are being blindly stupid. AI is blamed just to make it seem it is not orchestrated by murderous people and complicit high tech bastards. Stay safe.

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According to https://c19early.org/s and https://c19early.org, Remdesivir has a terrible ROI and some serious negative side-effects, yet had some merit regarding the treatment of Covid.

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It did have a 53% fatality rate in Ebola trials.

It did cause the kidneys to shut down.

It did cause the lungs to fill with fluid.

By...all means...you should request it if you end up in the hospital.

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Exactly!!!

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Well Said,Kathleen!

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Be sure and ask for it.

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...he should ask for a double dose.

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Why would I chose Remdesivir when by each of the key decision criteria, it is near or at the bottom of Covid treatments?

1) effectiveness

2) having positive side-effects and/or lacking negative side-effects

3) cost

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Why would you write: "yet had some merit regarding the treatment of Covid."

Some merit?

Like death?

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Follow the links I provided, and look at the meta-analyses.

I will note that a recent study showed that longer followup timeframes showed the lower death rates turned into higher death rates.

To Big Pharma's and Big Healthcare Industry's condemnation, there appears to be a high correlation between effectiveness, low cost, and safety. Nevertheless, many hospitals now pay all their attention to expensive, mildly effective, and questionably safe drugs like Paxlovid.

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It’s like drowning, but you’re tied down and your relatives get a big bill when you pass away.

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Beware, Remdesivir has been renamed Veklury.

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Sep 27, 2023·edited Sep 27, 2023

To be honest, Gary I had to warn my Sister when they killed our Mother with it. Remdesivir is its generic name, Veklury is its trade name. They’re one and the same.

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So sorry to hear that Gene, how tragic. Doctors know that the prescribed protocol is killing patients.

But they get what? $43,000 for a c19 diagnosis and placing someone on a water board, er ventilator plus Remdesivir.

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Thanks, Gary, for the heads-up about the renaming!

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I heard that, in one hospital, the nurses had a good way to remember the name REMDESIVIR. They called it "Run! Death is near!!" Actually, the names do kind of sound the same if you say them quickly, one right after the other!! Try it!

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Macabre and poetic!

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The “merit” just like everything else to do with Covid was “manufactured”!!!

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Really? Like what?

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No exceptions.

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I choose to do the right thing and lost my license. We don't own much in our life here on earth... our integrity/character and the quality of our hearts... everything else is an illusion and a test.

Most failed with dishonor. It was very disappointing to see.

Herewith is an article I wrote early in 2021

ww.simplelists.com/nfu/cache/16478229/2.pdf

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You are an honorable man.

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God Bless you for using the spine, fortitude He gave to you! Many just caved....and said,” they made me do it “......or some other excuse, forgetting COMPLETELY there is POWER in numbers.

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Excellent article!

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Your powerful article is a confirmation of what I suspected all along. Thank you for sharing it. May God continue to richly bless you for taking the stand that you did. Things will never be the same as God's searching light of grace and mercy is revealing the evil for what it is

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Add 1 more w to the ww at the beginning. Goes straight to it then!

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you need to add another w ...

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Ditto. Could not open link

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Thank you for your integrity

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God bless you.

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...and it seems as if he has. What humans do not realize is that there are benefits to do the right thing. Not that you do the right thing for benefits, but if we ony knew that there are rewards even here on earth (you don't have to go to heaven to be rewarded) if you do the right thing for the right reasons.Too many seek power, short term material gain and operate out of fear of loss or whatever... it is myopia all of it.

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Exactly. People are made to think in terms of nearsighted daily survival. If people thought in terms of eternity and in the present and eternal promises of God, then the bastards planning to do away with most humans would be wiped away in no time. There is much power in Christ, according to each person's faith. People just have to believe as you did. God bless you and keep you. Amen

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You did well.

Long story short, I had a near death experience: complete with a life review. I was the sole judge. Lesson learned, be the best/most loving person that you can be.

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Love is telling God's Truth always, not compromising it out of fear or greed. K.P here is a good example of that with his article

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Yes, it comes down to right and wrong. That is why the populace has been lied to about the fact that there ARE wrong and sinful actions, which have consequences.

And it comes down to a personal choice to commit a wrong, tell a lie, be complicit in murder, or NOT.

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Your article will not open for me.

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These doctors better figure out how they will get down on their knees and repent and dedicate the rest of their lives to doing good. It’s not enough to quietly admit to the good Drs that were put through hell! They need to speak out and apologize to patients and beg another chance... and if some won’t accept they need to understand why. If they do t speak and continue being “afraid” and unwilling to sacrifice anything for the health and lives of their patients. If they cannot muster up the courage they need to resign and do other work they can be honest with. All that said it will be God who judged them and what’s in their heart & soul and the fullness of their repentance. Not for us it’s for God to do.

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Without the sincere repentance before their patients and God .......Well, I pray for them to do it as THE path forward to restoration. This is God's Judgement we are under, the primary purpose of which is to uncover sin and wake people up to the dire need to repent and turn back to Him

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100% agree!

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You shall have glory and eternal life. Amen

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It means a lot.

Thank you

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I’ve yet to see a hearse followed by a moving truck. But many a rich man has no one interested in attending his funeral (but for a few heirs).

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Great article. Thank you for speaking up.

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Thank you for your courage. I am also going to suppose that as long as you were working you had been carefully 'setting aside for a rainy day'--and when that bad weather arrived you were prepared.

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Could ut be that some stayed on because they cared about their patients? Some patients are distressed to lose their doctor. I think many doctors were simply brainwashed. They really did believe they were doing the right thing by administering and encouraging these injections.

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If they really believed that then I wouldn't want them for my doctor. The data was all there for everyone to see right from the beginning- the Diamond Princess and Big Harma's own EUA application. Doctors are supposed to follow the science right? Not their feelings.

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... the science? Fauci said he is science. They were nit going to disbelieve Fauci

In that sense they followed the science.

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"We were scared" Oh, boo hoo!

You were never taught at home, at church, in med school, that someday you might have to do what's right and it will cost you? Oh, wait - of course not in med school. What was I thinking??

Tell the Good God your Mercedes would have been repossessed. Yeah, that's the ticket.

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That's funny! I was scared, too. Like when I had to go for hernia repair surgery so that I could continue to receive PD dialysis and avoid having to get hemo at the hospital. I was scared of getting jabbed while on the surgical table. Then, when I had to defend my refusal to be jabbed while also trying to get put on a transplant list. That was pretty scary. I had to make peace with the possibility that I could die waiting for the CV insanity to end so that I could receive a transplant. But, then I was scared that I would get a kidney from someone who died from the jab. So, you see, doctors weren't the only ones who were scared.

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Perfect reply, Grace.

Doctors put you through Hell. They don't deserve to be let off the hook.

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In the end, I was put on the transplant list without being jabbed and was given a new kidney. I, therefore, would defend those doctors who upheld their oaths. Was I still scared? Yes. At that time, I was deciding whether to put a hold on things and look for a donor myself, but on a Tuesday afternoon, I gave it all to God. 72 hours later, that Friday, is when I got "the call" about an available kidney. It was unfair to be put through any of this at a time when I was weak and did not feel cognitively sharp. Everything I defended myself with has since been exposed more broadly. I thank Dr. Alexander as being among those to whom I looked to devise my defense. Post transplant, I sensed that there was a divide among those on the team. I know at least one did the research and discovered the jabs were bioweapons. Sorry for the long response, but I am still processing all of this in my heart and mind.

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All glory be to God. What a lovely story. Tuesday the prayer of complete surrender; 3 days later the answer.

15 years ago, I fell from a 3rd storey scaffold. My back was broken in 8 places--or was it 11? When I awoke in the hospital, having been helicoptered there, and realized, as doctors were placing a pencil beneath my toes with "Can you feel this?" that I was still whole, my first thought was "Surely you have saved me, Lord, only because you have work for me to do."

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ViaVeritas, thank you for sharing your story, too! Yes, when I have the brains to give up control, good things happen, every time. God bless you.

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Grace - Thank you for sharing your good news in such a detailed response!

I'm overjoyed for you that your transplant came through against all odds under the circumstances. I believe it was placing your trust in God that somehow brought you this peace. I admire your strength in advocating for yourself and am inspired by your story.

Sending well wishes for your continued better health.

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Thank you, Kathleen. Sharing has a healing element to it and may help others. Blessings!

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I appreciate you sharing your testimony about how our Lord God made a way for you to get what you needed when there appeared to be no way.

Amazing things happen when you turn your anxieties and concerns over to Him. His strength was made perfect in your weakness.

GRACE is proving to be abundant in your life. No accident that that is your name. Wear it proudly

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Thank you for your kind reply, Catherine! Blessings!!!

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The ones who did this to Grace don't deserve to be let off the hook.

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They may have meant it for evil but God turned it for good because she trusted in Him. ALL THINGS WORK TOGETHER FOR GOOD FOR THOSE THAT ARE CALLED AND CHOSEN FOR HIS PURPOSE.

The evildoers will not make it even though it seems like they have temporarily profited off their ill gotten gains. Such riches obtained in such a manner will corrode their very souls

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Wow...how are you doing?.....You sound good....but what you went through, no one should have to go through....i truly hope things are good for you......peace and love to you...

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Thank you, Prema. It's been a journey! I am doing well at present. I appreciate your kind wishes. Blessings to you.

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You are so welcome. I am very glad you are doing well. You are incredibly brave and inspiring.

Thank you for your blessings. Blessings always to you too..🙏💙🙏 Be well always.

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Sending best wishes for good health ❤

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Hope you are doing okay.

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I am. Thank you for yout well wishes.

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I had to have (having regressed to requiring crutches to walk) a small knee surgery last January. I didn't want to 'go under' lest I be jabbed while unconscious. Yes, I was scared.

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It's been an awkward situation to be placed. I hear you!

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They're all liars.

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Gross overgeneralization if you're referring to doctors. Some are simply dumb and swallowed the propaganda.

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Agreed. And show me one poor or even a middle class physician. I drove through neighborhoods filled with doctors in my town. I also know the sweet deals those same physicians get from banks for very low interest mortgages.

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Sep 26, 2023·edited Sep 26, 2023

Yes, the medical community has zero credibility. No one who was an adult during the covid lies and manipulations will ever trust big pharma, big government, big tech, MSM, the health care system or the schools again.

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The problem is getting the critical mass of Americans to that cognitive point. People love their delusions, filth, evil and so on.

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Take your anti-semitism and go away.

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No. Your response has been programmed by a lifetime of your weakness and ignorance. Still, you disgust me. More than the obverse. Unexamined fools.

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Ceaselessly hawking your sheets and spreading your hate wherever you go....you need to get right with God before you die. Repent and turn back to Him, because you do not know when your soul is going to be required of you.

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https://www.gtvflyers.com/every-single-aspect-of-mass-migration-is-jewish/

God is going to send some ruthless savages to your home. Perhaps from South America, more likely African. As they do with South African Boer farmers, they may rape you, will shoot or hack everyone in your home. BUT, you will die knowing, no one ever called you a "racist." You are an idiot. Shove your appeasement and your flaccid God where the sun does not shine. You disgust me.

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Keep on going. You have been warned. Your overweening pride and scattershot hatred will be your undoing. You will be gettiing back in spades that which you put out

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You make me recall, Mom's favorite maxim, "tell me from whom it comes, I will tell you what it is worth." If I gave a wit of what weak people think, your snide comments might have some impact. But, I don't.

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I have tried explaining that to my doctors. I said we used to trust what you said (even with me doing my own research), but that trust has been lost.

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Bottom line -- do not trust a licensed doctor. They will kill to keep their license. Simple lesson that we had to learn the hard way.

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BINGO

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I agree with the comments, I don't buy what these "doctors" say. Anyone with basic morals can see the difference between right and wrong, and resolve to do the right thing. If they had all spoke out, refused to administer the clot shots, and remdesivir thousand of lives would have been saved.

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I am not a doctor or a scientist, but even I could read a study that looked at Remdesivir, the poorest performing and most expensive drug, compared with three other drugs listed and recognise what game Fauci was playing.

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Same here. I'm just a mechanic, but found out within a few weeks of the "vaccine" roll out that they were deadly, as well as "run to deaths door" remdesivir, and learned about early treatment. Fauci earned royalties and got rich from poisonous drugs.

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Duane, "just a mechanic" means that you understand how things go together, what they do and accomplish, together. There is no 'just' about that.

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Surprisingly, my common sense is far beyond all of these doctors who dropped dead from the clot shots. As well as all of the followers of Dr. Alexander's columns.

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Good Doctor, I don't want to hear those sniveling cowards admit what we all knew.. When a soldier goes off to fight in a war far away from money and family and titles and dies on foreign shores defending this country from foreign enemies, its expected for those soldiers to do what they did.. Well we expected these coward doctors to do the same for our domestic enemies, but they cringed in FEAR for their material possessions, at the expense of those same soldiers and citizens lives. These same cowards expected us to fight for them and die, but they were unwilling to lose their license, and their money and their titles for our lives... I do not have a word, I need somebody to tell me what that word is, because I cannot find it in the dictionary!!!!!!

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Wrong is wrong no matter who is doing it. If the health providers knew it to be wrong --that is the eureka moment --and they should have stopped. They must live with knowing the deaths they contributed to/caused for the remainder of their lives.

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I could see a doctor administering Remdesivir once or twice. But, once they saw what it did to people, and they didn't stop, those doctors and nurses turned into serial murders.

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I think you’re being very generous with these MDs Dr. Paul. If a decent minority of these folks had stood on principle and the Hippocratic Oath, this BS would have failed immediately. But they completely FAILED as Drs. and as caring humans.

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I think the doctors were cowards. I’m a retired teacher and it didn’t take me long to figure out the narrative was lie. I’ve had no medical training and wasn’t exactly a star in science but I have common sense. One of the biggest lies was asymptomatic transmission! If you’re not sick with symptoms, you’re not going to be contagious! And stay home until you have trouble breathing, what rubbish! That’s like if you’re bleeding from a serious wound, stay home until you’ve run out of blood and you’re skin is blue!

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Exactly Baga " asymptomatic transmission" Getting tested and wearing masks and getting the bio weapon when you had no symptoms was reverse of all medicine and it was BS, but the doctors had no backbone and still do not.. No respect for any of them ever again..

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Your bleeding analogy is quite good--wish I had thought of that!

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We have all seen the BCBS bonus schedules, right. I’m betting there were others. I guess this was all part of the dirty little psyop on the doctors too. They must have known something was wrong! For Gods sakes, we did!

Silence was the word everywhere whether forced or not! Except for a very few.

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I actually had one doctor who told me not to get the jab but only after I told her I knew Covid was not organic and in fact came from Wuhan lab, a bio weapon c Courtesy of My GP is still pushing the jab. I don’t think she’s as informed and not looking into other sources for information. I also believe some doctors blindly followed Fauci and Government protocols because they were financially incentivized and didn’t want to know the truth. Those doctors are/were derelict in their duties to first cause no harm. Those doctors need to be held accountable for their actions and the loss of life to their patients.

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All we needed was enough of them willing to do the right thing and none of this would have happened.

Your COWARDICE has cost a lot of people their LIVES.

BTW that also goes for all those who took the shots because they were afraid of losing their jobs.

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Let's dismantle the Colleges, and instead have personal responsibility from each and every doctor as individuals. The Colleges are captured and no longer justifiable or trustworthy. We can forgive the cowardly doctors who caved, but they will need to volunteer an admission of guilt first. Any who fail to volunteer an admission of guilt go directly to the stand on Nuremberg, in my opinion.

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Yes, all the top colleges were built upon Calvin principles, were targeted by the NWO elite almost immediately, not teach nothing but NWO concepts using all means necessary to produce agitation, fake knowledge, zero understanding with lock step behavioral control based upon delusions, mind control, deception and lies.

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Well am I aware of this---those top-notch New England colleges were largely Congregational (esp the one with John Harvard's personal library--founded to train the next generation of ministers, Cambridge being a bit too far away) plantings. And Princeton, Presbyterian--just the Scottish arm of Knox.

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Sadly none of that is ever going to happen

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How quickly would we forgive a mechanic knowingly putting sand in our engine oil because he was told to do it?

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Love it! Fabulous comment!

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You know who might be able to address this issue best is Dr. Aaron Kheiraty. A Catholic, a psychiatrist, and a medical ethicist, fired from his job as head of Medical Ethics for opposing the mandates (ironic beyond ironic). He is also involved in Missouri vs. Biden, the censorship lawsuit now before the Supreme Court. This is a deep philosophical quandry, worthy of Solomon. People are still be fired and attacked and savaged, at universities, in dissident circles, and in medicine, and the WHO and UN and WEF are still trying to drag us into a social credit system with vaccine passports, possible climate lockdowns, violations of the Constitution. What should these medical professionals do now? It has been for them a Catch 22, or a soft Sophie's Choice, which is no choice at all. Human beings protect their families first. The reason so few helped Jews or hid them during the Holocaust is that, if caught, the Nazis would hang their children until dead from the balconies and leave them there. These doctors are guilty of following orders, the defense Nazis used to explain how they were complicit in murder. But this isn't over. What should the doctors and medical professionals do now? Seems a question for someone deeply versed in medical ethics and not for those of us so grief stricken and enraged that we could take up pitchforks or tar and feathers in a nanosecond.

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It was the doctors and nurses in Nazi Germany that started the killings.

The disabled. The elderly. The mentally challenged.

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Yes, true, but it also happened after Hitler took advice from an "ethicist." Hitler and the Nazis were obsessed with ethics. Hitler was a brave soldier who believed passionately in honor, integrity, discipline, not drinking alcohol, not eating cream pastries, not harming or eating animals, protecting the environment, sparing the terminally ill from suffering. He was not yet a civilian when he infiltrated the Nazi party. He had not discharged from service but was working as a spook. He was on assignment but soon took over the Nazi party. The Aktion T4 euthanasia program started from the belief that it was immoral to let the terminally ill suffer. It soon grew to include the idea that the disabled, elderly and mentally ill were "parasites" on state resources who needed to be "put out of their misery" Hitler almost certainly had what the ICD-11 calls "anankastic personality disorder" aka "obsessive compulsive personality disorder (OCPD)." OCPD are obsessed with ethics, discipline etc. It's often comorbid with sadism. It's quite common in the miltary, where it often leads to rapid promotion to the highest ranks, and among bureaucrats (VA ?) and serial killers. Colonel Russell Williams, convicted serial killer and former CO of Canada's largest air force base is a good example.

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That case about Col. Williams was both fascinating and horrifying.

Lots can be learned about how someone like that went under the radar for so long.

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Sep 27, 2023·edited Sep 27, 2023

Thank goodness the Canadian cops were a lot smarter than him. He was pilot to the late queen of England whenever she was in Canada. He broke into women's houses at every locality he was posted to and filmed himself wearing their underwear as he pranced around masturbating. Then he filed and catalogued the footage neatly like a good little obsesseive compulsive. He wore women's lingerie under his military uniform. Obviously, his superiors liked what they saw or he would not have made it to full Colonel, let alone CO of Canada's largest air force base. Two possibilities arise: 1) those who made the promotion and posting decisions were incompetent, raising questions as to what else they are doing incompetently (falsus in uno falsus in omnibus) or, 2) they actually select for types like that.

Here's another like him, this time an academic on the other side of the world:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12560199/Adam-Britton-dog-rapist-crocodiles-Darwin.html

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The next frontier along the Nazi 2.0 path is MAID or Medical Assistance In Dying. AKA euthanasia being promoted in many places for just about anyone who wants it. When its promoters first started it was ostensibly as an option for only the terminally ill to commit suicide legally with the medical professionals (again!) assisting, thereby giving that trusted white coat stamp of approval to mercy killing.

No guarantees that it is going to stay "voluntary" either! Some hospitals already are taking life and Death decision making power away from individuals and/ or their families.

What about hospitals that denied transplants to desperate patients who refused the Covid shots?

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