monsters; & we are to open our arms? are you Biden et al. eff in crazy? we need to oil our guns & do target practice and ensure our girls are safe & teach them to kill islamist when he comes to rape
All violence is horrific. All wars promote violence. If you think this case is so bad, how about looking at what the US military does, particularly the white supremacists to people of color in other countries. Look at what you are supporting in Gaza and the rest of Palestine against the Palestinians of both Muslim, Arab and Christian groups of people. If you want violence to cease stop supporting US hegemony and genocide. Stop being a hypocrite calling for an end to depopulation here while supporting it elsewhere.
It and its God delusion is definitely part of the problem. Team America World Police is also part of the problem. Team America World Police, the "god that failed" is responsible for terrorist attacks in its vassel countries. Team America World Police has not been the victor in any war of aggression it has started or been involved in since WW2. It gets its ass kicked every time by the small, backward, illiterate, technologically inferior third world peasants it attacks.
Islam specifically is the problem, in particular its commandment to murder all those who refuse to accept Islam or pay the jizya ransom, as well as its command to murder all those who attempt to leave Islam.
Christianity is 180 degrees different, literally just the opposite. True, Christian countries have committed crimes similar to Islamic crimes, but they did this in _spite_ of the teaching of Christianity, while Muslims murder _because_ of the teachings of Islam.
Yes, that must be why the Jews went unmolested in Al- Andalusia (Muslim Spain for 600 years but got kicked out in 1492 when Ferdinand and Isabella gave there decree
Absolutely not. You've fallen into the trap of false analogy.
Christianity itself has nothing to do with mass murder. Jesus killed no one, and was himself killed.
Islam commands mass murder of all non-believers as its most fundamental principle: jihad. This is in imitation of Mohammed, who slaughtered his enemies even after they surrendered.
Guess what tanya? 90% of the violence is started by Muslims. 9/11, barracks attack, ship attack, Nigeria, Uganda, Oct 7. The genocide is Muslims murdering Christians for hundreds of years, as their Qur'an demands.
What our corrupt government does in our name across the globe is not representative of the American Constitution. Conflating the two betrays your ignorance on the subject.
The US was defeated in Afghanistan Tanya. What did Lee Rigby die for? The Taliban are back in power in Afghanistan. The US left them.$80B when it cut and ran from the Taliban. The US increased the threat of terrorism in other Western countries when it went into Afghanistan and Iraq etc. Your heros, Bush and Obama have Lee Rigby's blood on their hands. They were accomplices to the muslim extremists. They are cowards.The heros in the Lee Rigby case were the brave civilians, police and paramedics who arttended the murder scene. Look at what motivated the barbarous attack:
"One of the men was talking about religion and she [a civilian witness] heard him say something along the lines of: 'These soldiers go to our land, kill or bomb our people,' the jury was told. She then asked the man: 'Are you going to hurt us?'
'He replied: 'No the women and children are safe. You need to get back when the police and the soldiers get here,' Mr Whittam told the court ...
The court was told that when paramedics tried to sit Mr Adebolajo up, he said: "Please let me lay here, I don't want anyone to die. I just want the soldiers out of my country."
"Mr Adebolajo told the officers: 'I am a Muslim extremist, this may be the only chance you meet one,' the jury heard ... In a second interview, the day after the shooting, he claimed that his intention was never to hurt civilians. In a signed statement, Mr Adebolajo says: "We hope that one day Great Britain will replace those corrupt politicians with men or women who truly care about the security of their citizens by withdrawing from affairs of Muslims, including their lands.' "
The organizations that promote and fund the mass migration into western countries from less civilized parts of the world need to be held to account, shut down, and imprisoned for actively working to destroy the nations and cultures of western civilization.
Dr. Paul, by you posting some African "converts to Islam" horrific crime in the UK, in no way whatsoever justifies Israel's genocide of Christian and Muslim children women and men in Gaza Palestine.
Do you mean as depicted in this Israeli documentary, a trailer for which is at the link? Israeli former soldiers admit to raping young Palestinian girls and mass murdering Palestinians. It is worse than what the German Nazis did in villages they occupied because the Nazis were not rapists. Now there is archaeological evidence to corroborate eyewitness accounts of Israeli atrocities against civilians occurring at the time of the creation of the state of Israel. The ICC needs to do something and if it is outside their jurisdiction then a Nuremberg style international tribunal needs to be created to try the accused Israeli murderers and rapists and their apologists in. Accused Hamas wrong doers also need to be tried.
Tantura
Summaries
In the war of 1948 hundreds of Palestinian villages were depopulated. Israelis call it 'The War of Independence. Palestinians call it 'Nakba"'. The film examines one village- Tantura and why "Nakba" is taboo in Israeli society.
Synopsis
The tape-recorded words "erase it" take on new weight in the context of history and war. After the U.N decided to partition Palestine into two separate independent Jewish and Arab states, and the state of Israel was established in 1948, local hostilities escalated to regional war and hundreds of Palestinian villages were depopulated in its aftermath. Israelis know this as the War of Independence. Palestinians call it "The Nakba" (the Catastrophe). In the late 1990s, graduate student Teddy Katz researched a large-scale massacre that had allegedly occurred in the village of Tantura in 1948. His work later came under attack and his reputation was ruined, but 140 hours of audio testimonies remain.
Director Alon Schwarz revisits former Israeli soldiers of the Alexandroni Brigade and confronts them with Teddy's recorded audiotape interviews as well as visiting former Palestinian residents of Tantura in an effort to re-examine what happened in the village and explore why "The Nakba" is taboo in Israeli society. The now elderly ex-soldiers recall unsettling acts of war while disquietly pausing at points they either don't want to remember or won't speak of. Audio from Katz's 20-year-old interviews cuts through the silence of self-preservation and exposes the ways in which power, silencing, and protected narratives can sculpt history. The film provides a rare look at Israeli society's first-generation and how the country's founding myth has shaped reality for generations. The film brings never before seen archival footage from the war of 1948 alongside intimate interviews with ex-Israeli soldiers, Palestinian residents, and historians.
I'll watch this when I have time, knowledge is power. But, why do you keep going back to 1948? That's ancient history and not relevant to current events. Also a lot of the Nakba, were the Arabs willingly left their homes because their Arab leaders told them to. Remember, there's always two sides to any story. In today's world, it's consistently been the Muslims who are the aggressors and the Israeli's only defending them selves. Israel consists of 1.5% of all the middle east adjacent to all the Arab lands. It seems to me that Arabs having 98.5% of all that land mass, shouldn't begrudge the Jews for their microscopic sliver of Israel.
If you think 1948 is ancient history and not relevant to current events then you must think the holocaust, which predates 1946 is ancient history and not relevant to current events. Actually, increasing numbers of youth agree with you. Surveys show they are suspicious of holocaust stories and sick of hearing about them. The Shoah is being forgotten. Nonetheless, the Simon Wiesenthal Centerkeeps chasing old Nazis for pre-1945 alleged atrocities. Now they want the Ukranian Waffen SS trooper who was recently honored by the Canadian parliament extradited for allegedly killing Jews decades ago. He's in his 90s!
Starts in the Qur'an, 33:26 "Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And he made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before". Continues with the conquest of the middle eastern countries. The Qur'an has hundreds of references to kill the Jews. Over and Over again. The Qur'an was produced around 700-800 AD and ever since then the Muslims have persecuted the Jews.
Your translation specifically mentioning "Jews" is unfindable, here is the common translation of 33:26
And He brought down those from the People of the Book 1 who supported the enemy alliance from their own strongholds, and cast horror into their hearts. You ˹believers˺ killed some, and took others captive. Surah Juz Page Tip: try navigating with ctrl K 20Taha 21Al-Anbya 22Al-
I believe it was this islamist when taken to court the judge said it is people like you that give islam a bad reputation. He said back to the judge, "YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT ISLAM IS." I have since repeated those words to people who support islam.
"One of the men [who attacked Lee Rigby] was talking about religion and she [a civilian witness] heard him say something along the lines of: 'These soldiers go to our land, kill or bomb our people,' the jury was told. She then asked the man: 'Are you going to hurt us?'
'He replied: 'No the women and children are safe. You need to get back when the police and the soldiers get here,' Mr Whittam told the court ...
The court was told that when paramedics tried to sit Mr Adebolajo up, he said: "Please let me lay here, I don't want anyone to die. I just want the soldiers out of my country."
It was a terrorist attack on a military target [the soldier, Rigby]. Bush and Obama, and their sycophants Bliar and Cameron, were a part, a big part, of the causal chain that led to the attacks. The US and Israel have radicalized the muslim world. Before the rise of the post WW2 US and the massacres of civilians in villages like Tantura, many of the muslim countries that now produce muslim extremists were Westernised and secular. The women wore Western fashions, not burkas. The US created the problem. The blood of millions of terrorism victims is on Americans' hands.
"One of the men [who butchered the soldier, Rigby] was talking about religion and she [a civilian witness] heard him say something along the lines of: 'These soldiers [i.e., Rigby and others] go to our land, kill or bomb our people' ... The court was told that when paramedics tried to sit Mr Adebolajo up, he said: "Please let me I just want the soldiers out of my country' ... In a second interview, the day after the shooting, he claimed that his intention was never to hurt civilians."
It was in the U K. How is the U K a muslim country or was it already in his eyes a conquered sharia loving country and he just needed to get rid of the left over debris (UK soldiers)?
Now you've really went nuts. "The US and Israel have radicalized the Muslim world" How did we create the Saudi Imams who radicalized the 9/11 jihadists? How did we bring birth to the Ayatollah Khomeini? Where we failed was when imbecile Carter wouldn't support the Shah, and our poor intelligence agencies not sharing intelligence!
Bliar and Cameron decided to play lap dogs to Team America World Police which got its ass kicked by the technologically backward, illiterate third world Taliban. That's why Lee Rigby was murdered. He died for the psychopathic USA government. It is very, very sad.
Most epidemiological studies estimate that the number of Iraqis butchered by the US or as a result of US actions was 1,000,000+. The US also butchered a lot of civilians in Haiti, in the Philippines and during WW2. The US has also practiced cannibalism and head hunting.
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Eating Your Enemy. Richard Sugg searches history to explain the phenomenon of aggressive cannibalism, following recent allegations from Iraq.
The Israeli army is doing the same shit to the Palestinian people, including children, in Gaza. There is video footage from The Grayzone showing the IDF & their supporters talking about killing all the people in Gaza. To ethnically cleanse the whole region & chop off everybody’s heads. No matter who. All of em. They don’t care. Israeli’s are indoctrinated to despise the Palestinians just like Hamas does to their people regarding Israeli’s. It definitely goes both ways. The Palestinians are being lumped in with Hamas. Children don’t choose where they’re born or what culture they’re born into. Children are always innocent. Carpet bombing all of Gaza & millions of innocent people is never going to be “okay”! A few thousand Hamas terrorists does not justify killing everyone in Gaza. Yes, those who murdered innocent Israeli civilians & tortured them, should be found & hanged. No one is disputing that. Terrorists on both sides should be punished to the fullest extent. No more war! No more state sponsored mass murdering! No more funding both sides, then propagandizing who should be on who’s side. Again, WHERE WAS THE IDF on October 7th? Why did they take 7 hrs. to “rescue” any of their injured & traumatized citizens? During which, more people died! Waiting for help! I have friends with family over there. I get their take on the whole situation. A lot of lies & propaganda is going on. Both the IDF & Hamas have committed evil atrocities on innocent people. At the behest of Netanyahu. Just sayin.
In the war of 1948 hundreds of Palestinian villages were depopulated. Israelis call it 'The War of Independence. Palestinians call it 'Nakba"'. The film examines one village- Tantura and why "Nakba" is taboo in Israeli society.
Synopsis
The tape-recorded words "erase it" take on new weight in the context of history and war. After the U.N decided to partition Palestine into two separate independent Jewish and Arab states, and the state of Israel was established in 1948, local hostilities escalated to regional war and hundreds of Palestinian villages were depopulated in its aftermath. Israelis know this as the War of Independence. Palestinians call it "The Nakba" (the Catastrophe). In the late 1990s, graduate student Teddy Katz researched a large-scale massacre that had allegedly occurred in the village of Tantura in 1948. His work later came under attack and his reputation was ruined, but 140 hours of audio testimonies remain.
Director Alon Schwarz revisits former Israeli soldiers of the Alexandroni Brigade and confronts them with Teddy's recorded audiotape interviews as well as visiting former Palestinian residents of Tantura in an effort to re-examine what happened in the village and explore why "The Nakba" is taboo in Israeli society. The now elderly ex-soldiers recall unsettling acts of war while disquietly pausing at points they either don't want to remember or won't speak of. Audio from Katz's 20-year-old interviews cuts through the silence of self-preservation and exposes the ways in which power, silencing, and protected narratives can sculpt history. The film provides a rare look at Israeli society's first-generation and how the country's founding myth has shaped reality for generations. The film brings never before seen archival footage from the war of 1948 alongside intimate interviews with ex-Israeli soldiers, Palestinian residents, and historians.
The Israeli's were trying their very best to live in peace with the Palestinians. Israel provided water, food, and electricity to them. Israel allowed Palestinian workers to cross the border. Hamas declared war when they butchered, raped, tortured over 1200 innocent people, and took hostages. Every death of a Palestinian child is due to Hamas, their fault, no one else. Polls show that most Palestinians supported Hamas, Palestinian families with mom, dad, and children in the house held some of the Israeli hostages. Don't you understand that there would not be one single death in this conflict, if Hamas didn't perform their vile attack?
Yes, of course. I stated, “Hamas is bad. They’re terrorists.” Children are not Hamas. Don’t YOU understand that? All children are innocent. Gaza has at least a million children. They don’t deserve to be terrorized. No child does. It only propagates more terrorists in the future. Because they will never forget what they’ve been put through. Stop equating Hamas with all Palestinians. Please. That is utterly moronic. I have seen the stories of those suffering from constant bombings. Doctors trying to save lives. Not Hamas! People. Human beings. Innocent people. For God sakes. Not all Palestinians are Hamas. And not all IDF soldiers have clean hands either. They tell them to leave because bombs will be dropping & when they do, they get attacked while they’re leaving. What about disabled people? How are they supposed to get out of the way? Babies & young children who’ve lost both parents now? They can’t read the flyers telling them to go. There are lots of nuances going on with this situation. And it is genocide when you are cut off from food, fresh water, medicines, shelter, safety, etc. There’s no other word for it.
What would you have Israel do, not fight back? Allow a terror camp to continue right next door, funded by billions $$$ from Iran and Arab countries, and even the USA, Biden sent $300 million to Gaza? Hamas has pledged to continue attacks just like Oct 7, to last forever. Why aren't you crying for all the Israeli lives lost, (including the last 30 years of terror attacks from Jihadists), rockets streaming in and landing on civilian area's. The butchery of the Oct 7 attack was the final straw, Israel decided to end the existence of Hamas, no matter what it takes. I can't blame them. Remember, 80% of the Palestinians supported the Oct 7 attack, they elected Hamas, even families there came across the border to rape, pillage, and murder Israeli's. One hostage said that she was held captive in a family home, mom, dad, and the kids. She says all of the Palestinians are terrorists. The IDF tries hard to not injure civilians, something that the Muslims do not do. Not one person would have been injured or died if Hamas had not attacked. All the blame for every baby and persons deaths are to Hamas.
Denise, Duane and the Israelis and IDF appear to approve of "collective punishment" as practiced by the US during the American Civil War and later also by Nazi Germany and others.
Nazi Germany killed 2300 civilians in the Kragujevac massacre, as retaliation for 10 German soldiers killed by Yugoslav Partisans in Nazi-occupied Serbia in 1941.
Using Duane's logic, what those Nazis did was acceptable because none of those 2300 civilians, not one, would have been killed if the Partisans had not attacked the German soldiers.
"Collective punishment is a punishment or sanction imposed on a group for acts allegedly perpetrated by a member of that group, which could be an ethnic or political group, or just the family, friends and neighbors of the perpetrator. Because individuals who are not responsible for the acts are targeted, collective punishment is not compatible with the basic principle of individual responsibility. The punished group may often have no direct association with the perpetrator other than living in the same area and can not be assumed to exercise control over the perpetrator's actions. Collective punishment is prohibited by treaty in both international and non-international armed conflicts, more specifically Common Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention and Article 4 of the Additional Protocol II."
"The principle of collective punishment was laid out by Union General William Tecumseh Sherman in his Special Field Order 120, November 9, 1864, which laid out the rules for his "March to the sea" in the American Civil War:
V. To army corps commanders alone is entrusted the power to destroy mills, houses, cotton-gins, etc..., and for them this general principle is laid down: In districts and neighborhoods where the army is unmolested, no destruction of such property should be permitted; but should guerrillas or bushwhackers molest our march, or should the inhabitants burn bridges, obstruct roads, or otherwise manifest local hostility, then army commanders should order and enforce a devastation more or less relentless according to the measure of such hostility."
"The current blockade of Gaza has been criticized by the International Committee of the Red Cross, in a United Nations report, and by various other organisations as collective punishment aimed at the Palestinians."
"UN condemns 'war crimes' in Gaza". BBC News. September 16, 2009. Archived from the original on October 8, 2022. Retrieved December 10, 2011.
"ICRC says Israel's Gaza blockade breaks law". BBC News. June 14, 2010. Archived from the original on April 14, 2019. Retrieved June 21, 2018.
"US Congress freeze on $200m Palestinian aid criticised". BBC News. October 4, 2011. Archived from the original on October 9, 2018. Retrieved June 21, 2018.
There's no doubt that the USA has made many mistakes, the invasion of Iraq was certainly one. There was a Iraqi group that wanted Saddam finished, and they convinced us of the WMD, even the UN went along. Saddam did use poison gas on Iraqi's. If Saddam had simply let the weapons inspectors do their jobs, the invasion wouldn't have occurred.
Dr. Alexander you must be familiar with the School of the Americas. This is our COUNTRY man. We do dat. No wonder murdering millions by fake medicine and fake science is passionately praised by the Bureaucrats.
School of the Americas: Training Torturers & Secret Police for US-Backed Dictators Since 1946. Over 64,000 soldiers have been trained to oppress, smash dissent, and maintain American imperial order since the “school” first opened. his article was originally published in December 2015.
For the past 69 years, many of the most notorious U.S.-backed South American dictators, along with their secret police and torturers, have learned their dark arts from a secretive American training facility.
Located in Fort Benning, Georgia, the facility changed its name from “School of the Americas” to “Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation” in 2001. Human rights advocates say the change was purely cosmetic, a result of the increasing pressure the facility faced from activists and other critics. In November, thousands protested outside Fort Benning in what has become an annual occurrence.
Originally founded in 1946 and based in Panama, it was expelled from the nation in 1984 under the terms of the Panama Canal Treaty. According to SOA Watch, a nonprofit which seeks the closure of the torture school, hundreds of thousands of Latin Americans have been tortured, raped, murdered or “disappeared” through the work of its 64,000 graduates.
It first became a target for activists over three decades ago, after repeated atrocities in El Salvador were linked to graduates of the school. In December of 1980, three Catholic nuns, Dorothy Kazel, Maura Clarke, and Ita Ford, along with a Catholic lay missionary, Jean Donovan, were kidnapped by El Salvadoran soldiers who proceeded to torture, rape, and murder the four women under orders from the country’s military dictatorship in retaliation for their advocacy for the impoverished. https://www.globalresearch.ca/school-of-the-americas-training-torturers-secret-police-for-us-backed-dictators-since-1946/5647471
"God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3). He orders another attack and the killing of all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses (Joshua 6). In Judges 21 He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife!
Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody! In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church! In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered
The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 & Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person."
Because of tales of murder and atrocities in the bible, I've never believed that all of it is the "word of God" like so many Christian fanatics claim. It's down right stupid.
Speaking for myself, I don't believe that "God" spoke to anyone, or that any kind of God advocated any of this. We see in the Old Testament, "God" regularly speaking to many individuals, but this is all fiction, made up by the ancient authors of those prehistoric times. The same with all the times "Allah" spoke with Muhammad. All fiction
Qur'an 5.33 "The punishment for those who wage war against Allah and his Prophet and make mischief in the land, is to murder them, crucify them, or cut off a hand and foot on opposite sides. Their doom is dreadful They will not escape the fire, suffering constantly
Then we also know that Islam plagiarized much from the Bible and the Torah, to create their Qur'an. Everybody's in the Qur'an, Jesus, Gabriel, John, Mary, Moses, even King David, who they anoint as another prophet.
Again the difference is that Muslims today still practice what the Qur'an tells them to do, from the era of 700-800 AD, but Christians don't practice the murders and atrocities of the Old Testament, with few exceptions. I found a verse in the Qur'an that described exactly the rape and tortures that Hamas did to the Israeli females, such as cutting off body parts, but didn't book mark it like I should have.
All violence is horrific. All wars promote violence. If you think this case is so bad, how about looking at what the US military does, particularly the white supremacists to people of color in other countries. Look at what you are supporting in Gaza and the rest of Palestine against the Palestinians of both Muslim, Arab and Christian groups of people. If you want violence to cease stop supporting US hegemony and genocide. Stop being a hypocrite calling for an end to depopulation here while supporting it elsewhere.
we do and we punish too
Did you notice that the killers are converts to Islam?
This proves that Islam is the problem.
It and its God delusion is definitely part of the problem. Team America World Police is also part of the problem. Team America World Police, the "god that failed" is responsible for terrorist attacks in its vassel countries. Team America World Police has not been the victor in any war of aggression it has started or been involved in since WW2. It gets its ass kicked every time by the small, backward, illiterate, technologically inferior third world peasants it attacks.
Islam specifically is the problem, in particular its commandment to murder all those who refuse to accept Islam or pay the jizya ransom, as well as its command to murder all those who attempt to leave Islam.
Christianity is 180 degrees different, literally just the opposite. True, Christian countries have committed crimes similar to Islamic crimes, but they did this in _spite_ of the teaching of Christianity, while Muslims murder _because_ of the teachings of Islam.
Yes, that must be why the Jews went unmolested in Al- Andalusia (Muslim Spain for 600 years but got kicked out in 1492 when Ferdinand and Isabella gave there decree
If the USA is mostly Christian and the USA is responsible for killing over a million people in its wars, is Christianity the problem?
Absolutely not. You've fallen into the trap of false analogy.
Christianity itself has nothing to do with mass murder. Jesus killed no one, and was himself killed.
Islam commands mass murder of all non-believers as its most fundamental principle: jihad. This is in imitation of Mohammed, who slaughtered his enemies even after they surrendered.
It would be to the benefit of moslems to stay out of America.
Yuk yuk yuk. You are showing your age boomer.
Guess what tanya? 90% of the violence is started by Muslims. 9/11, barracks attack, ship attack, Nigeria, Uganda, Oct 7. The genocide is Muslims murdering Christians for hundreds of years, as their Qur'an demands.
9/11 huh? wake up dude
So, is SecDef Lloyd Austin a "white supremacist" for supporting wars in Ukraine and the Middle East?
What our corrupt government does in our name across the globe is not representative of the American Constitution. Conflating the two betrays your ignorance on the subject.
The US was defeated in Afghanistan Tanya. What did Lee Rigby die for? The Taliban are back in power in Afghanistan. The US left them.$80B when it cut and ran from the Taliban. The US increased the threat of terrorism in other Western countries when it went into Afghanistan and Iraq etc. Your heros, Bush and Obama have Lee Rigby's blood on their hands. They were accomplices to the muslim extremists. They are cowards.The heros in the Lee Rigby case were the brave civilians, police and paramedics who arttended the murder scene. Look at what motivated the barbarous attack:
"One of the men was talking about religion and she [a civilian witness] heard him say something along the lines of: 'These soldiers go to our land, kill or bomb our people,' the jury was told. She then asked the man: 'Are you going to hurt us?'
'He replied: 'No the women and children are safe. You need to get back when the police and the soldiers get here,' Mr Whittam told the court ...
The court was told that when paramedics tried to sit Mr Adebolajo up, he said: "Please let me lay here, I don't want anyone to die. I just want the soldiers out of my country."
"Mr Adebolajo told the officers: 'I am a Muslim extremist, this may be the only chance you meet one,' the jury heard ... In a second interview, the day after the shooting, he claimed that his intention was never to hurt civilians. In a signed statement, Mr Adebolajo says: "We hope that one day Great Britain will replace those corrupt politicians with men or women who truly care about the security of their citizens by withdrawing from affairs of Muslims, including their lands.' "
agree AWAKE
Just some good and faithful Muslims doing what all Muslims are commanded to do: kill the infidels.
The organizations that promote and fund the mass migration into western countries from less civilized parts of the world need to be held to account, shut down, and imprisoned for actively working to destroy the nations and cultures of western civilization.
Dr. Paul, by you posting some African "converts to Islam" horrific crime in the UK, in no way whatsoever justifies Israel's genocide of Christian and Muslim children women and men in Gaza Palestine.
What about the real genocide of Jews by Muslims that has gone on for centuries?
Do you mean as depicted in this Israeli documentary, a trailer for which is at the link? Israeli former soldiers admit to raping young Palestinian girls and mass murdering Palestinians. It is worse than what the German Nazis did in villages they occupied because the Nazis were not rapists. Now there is archaeological evidence to corroborate eyewitness accounts of Israeli atrocities against civilians occurring at the time of the creation of the state of Israel. The ICC needs to do something and if it is outside their jurisdiction then a Nuremberg style international tribunal needs to be created to try the accused Israeli murderers and rapists and their apologists in. Accused Hamas wrong doers also need to be tried.
Tantura
Summaries
In the war of 1948 hundreds of Palestinian villages were depopulated. Israelis call it 'The War of Independence. Palestinians call it 'Nakba"'. The film examines one village- Tantura and why "Nakba" is taboo in Israeli society.
Synopsis
The tape-recorded words "erase it" take on new weight in the context of history and war. After the U.N decided to partition Palestine into two separate independent Jewish and Arab states, and the state of Israel was established in 1948, local hostilities escalated to regional war and hundreds of Palestinian villages were depopulated in its aftermath. Israelis know this as the War of Independence. Palestinians call it "The Nakba" (the Catastrophe). In the late 1990s, graduate student Teddy Katz researched a large-scale massacre that had allegedly occurred in the village of Tantura in 1948. His work later came under attack and his reputation was ruined, but 140 hours of audio testimonies remain.
Director Alon Schwarz revisits former Israeli soldiers of the Alexandroni Brigade and confronts them with Teddy's recorded audiotape interviews as well as visiting former Palestinian residents of Tantura in an effort to re-examine what happened in the village and explore why "The Nakba" is taboo in Israeli society. The now elderly ex-soldiers recall unsettling acts of war while disquietly pausing at points they either don't want to remember or won't speak of. Audio from Katz's 20-year-old interviews cuts through the silence of self-preservation and exposes the ways in which power, silencing, and protected narratives can sculpt history. The film provides a rare look at Israeli society's first-generation and how the country's founding myth has shaped reality for generations. The film brings never before seen archival footage from the war of 1948 alongside intimate interviews with ex-Israeli soldiers, Palestinian residents, and historians.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt16378034/
I'll watch this when I have time, knowledge is power. But, why do you keep going back to 1948? That's ancient history and not relevant to current events. Also a lot of the Nakba, were the Arabs willingly left their homes because their Arab leaders told them to. Remember, there's always two sides to any story. In today's world, it's consistently been the Muslims who are the aggressors and the Israeli's only defending them selves. Israel consists of 1.5% of all the middle east adjacent to all the Arab lands. It seems to me that Arabs having 98.5% of all that land mass, shouldn't begrudge the Jews for their microscopic sliver of Israel.
the way in which Israel was founded in 1948, and the situation today, is typical of the adage, "You Reap What You Sow".
If you think 1948 is ancient history and not relevant to current events then you must think the holocaust, which predates 1946 is ancient history and not relevant to current events. Actually, increasing numbers of youth agree with you. Surveys show they are suspicious of holocaust stories and sick of hearing about them. The Shoah is being forgotten. Nonetheless, the Simon Wiesenthal Centerkeeps chasing old Nazis for pre-1945 alleged atrocities. Now they want the Ukranian Waffen SS trooper who was recently honored by the Canadian parliament extradited for allegedly killing Jews decades ago. He's in his 90s!
What examples can you cite of an alleged genocide of Jews by Muslims for centuries?
None!
it doesn't exist there but only in Europe.
Starts in the Qur'an, 33:26 "Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And he made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before". Continues with the conquest of the middle eastern countries. The Qur'an has hundreds of references to kill the Jews. Over and Over again. The Qur'an was produced around 700-800 AD and ever since then the Muslims have persecuted the Jews.
I can't find any referenced to "Jews" specifically, only " people of the book" in the Quran tract that you referenced.
Your translation specifically mentioning "Jews" is unfindable, here is the common translation of 33:26
And He brought down those from the People of the Book 1 who supported the enemy alliance from their own strongholds, and cast horror into their hearts. You ˹believers˺ killed some, and took others captive. Surah Juz Page Tip: try navigating with ctrl K 20Taha 21Al-Anbya 22Al-
https://myislam.org/surah-ahzab/ayat-26/
https://www.israelunwired.com/this-video-won-the-case-for-israel-in-just-5-minutes/
https://www.israelunwired.com/mind-blowing-idf-takes-extreme-actions-to-help-save-gazan-civilians/
Oh my God! This is horrible. That man suffered and his family must have endured unbelievable shock! We need to be more vigilante
Vigilante? Learn something about Islam.
Just stay thr hell out of America!
I believe it was this islamist when taken to court the judge said it is people like you that give islam a bad reputation. He said back to the judge, "YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT ISLAM IS." I have since repeated those words to people who support islam.
"One of the men [who attacked Lee Rigby] was talking about religion and she [a civilian witness] heard him say something along the lines of: 'These soldiers go to our land, kill or bomb our people,' the jury was told. She then asked the man: 'Are you going to hurt us?'
'He replied: 'No the women and children are safe. You need to get back when the police and the soldiers get here,' Mr Whittam told the court ...
The court was told that when paramedics tried to sit Mr Adebolajo up, he said: "Please let me lay here, I don't want anyone to die. I just want the soldiers out of my country."
the women and children weren't safe on Oct 7. They butchered them. The murder of Rigby was a terror attack, not a military action.
It was a terrorist attack on a military target [the soldier, Rigby]. Bush and Obama, and their sycophants Bliar and Cameron, were a part, a big part, of the causal chain that led to the attacks. The US and Israel have radicalized the muslim world. Before the rise of the post WW2 US and the massacres of civilians in villages like Tantura, many of the muslim countries that now produce muslim extremists were Westernised and secular. The women wore Western fashions, not burkas. The US created the problem. The blood of millions of terrorism victims is on Americans' hands.
"One of the men [who butchered the soldier, Rigby] was talking about religion and she [a civilian witness] heard him say something along the lines of: 'These soldiers [i.e., Rigby and others] go to our land, kill or bomb our people' ... The court was told that when paramedics tried to sit Mr Adebolajo up, he said: "Please let me I just want the soldiers out of my country' ... In a second interview, the day after the shooting, he claimed that his intention was never to hurt civilians."
It was in the U K. How is the U K a muslim country or was it already in his eyes a conquered sharia loving country and he just needed to get rid of the left over debris (UK soldiers)?
Now you've really went nuts. "The US and Israel have radicalized the Muslim world" How did we create the Saudi Imams who radicalized the 9/11 jihadists? How did we bring birth to the Ayatollah Khomeini? Where we failed was when imbecile Carter wouldn't support the Shah, and our poor intelligence agencies not sharing intelligence!
I grew up in the area he was slaughtered 🙏
Being allowed to get out of control to fit the narrative all around the world 🌍
So sad 🙏
Bliar and Cameron decided to play lap dogs to Team America World Police which got its ass kicked by the technologically backward, illiterate third world Taliban. That's why Lee Rigby was murdered. He died for the psychopathic USA government. It is very, very sad.
I will never forget.
I will also never forget:
365,000 Vietnamese killed in the Vietnam war.
3000+ of mostly civilian Panamanians killed in the 1989 US invasion of Panama
20,000+ Lebanese killed by Israel in the early 1980s
600,000+ Iraqis killed as a result of the US-led Iraq war
110,000+ Afghanis killed by the USA.
Countless thousands of Palestinians killed by Israeli 'settlers' and Zionists since at the 1930s.
The 34 US Navy personnel killed by Israel when it attacked the USS Liberty.
The 9/11 false flag event that killed over 3,000 Americans with Israeli fingerprints over the entire operation before, during and after the event.
The millions killed by the Covid 'vaccine'.
And the 23,000+ Palestinians - 95% of which were women, children and other civilians - killed indiscriminately by Israel in late 2023.
I'm afraid Doctor that your Islamophobia and racism is showing.
Most epidemiological studies estimate that the number of Iraqis butchered by the US or as a result of US actions was 1,000,000+. The US also butchered a lot of civilians in Haiti, in the Philippines and during WW2. The US has also practiced cannibalism and head hunting.
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Eating Your Enemy. Richard Sugg searches history to explain the phenomenon of aggressive cannibalism, following recent allegations from Iraq.
https://www.historytoday.com/archive/eating-your-enemy
The Israeli army is doing the same shit to the Palestinian people, including children, in Gaza. There is video footage from The Grayzone showing the IDF & their supporters talking about killing all the people in Gaza. To ethnically cleanse the whole region & chop off everybody’s heads. No matter who. All of em. They don’t care. Israeli’s are indoctrinated to despise the Palestinians just like Hamas does to their people regarding Israeli’s. It definitely goes both ways. The Palestinians are being lumped in with Hamas. Children don’t choose where they’re born or what culture they’re born into. Children are always innocent. Carpet bombing all of Gaza & millions of innocent people is never going to be “okay”! A few thousand Hamas terrorists does not justify killing everyone in Gaza. Yes, those who murdered innocent Israeli civilians & tortured them, should be found & hanged. No one is disputing that. Terrorists on both sides should be punished to the fullest extent. No more war! No more state sponsored mass murdering! No more funding both sides, then propagandizing who should be on who’s side. Again, WHERE WAS THE IDF on October 7th? Why did they take 7 hrs. to “rescue” any of their injured & traumatized citizens? During which, more people died! Waiting for help! I have friends with family over there. I get their take on the whole situation. A lot of lies & propaganda is going on. Both the IDF & Hamas have committed evil atrocities on innocent people. At the behest of Netanyahu. Just sayin.
Tantura
Summaries
In the war of 1948 hundreds of Palestinian villages were depopulated. Israelis call it 'The War of Independence. Palestinians call it 'Nakba"'. The film examines one village- Tantura and why "Nakba" is taboo in Israeli society.
Synopsis
The tape-recorded words "erase it" take on new weight in the context of history and war. After the U.N decided to partition Palestine into two separate independent Jewish and Arab states, and the state of Israel was established in 1948, local hostilities escalated to regional war and hundreds of Palestinian villages were depopulated in its aftermath. Israelis know this as the War of Independence. Palestinians call it "The Nakba" (the Catastrophe). In the late 1990s, graduate student Teddy Katz researched a large-scale massacre that had allegedly occurred in the village of Tantura in 1948. His work later came under attack and his reputation was ruined, but 140 hours of audio testimonies remain.
Director Alon Schwarz revisits former Israeli soldiers of the Alexandroni Brigade and confronts them with Teddy's recorded audiotape interviews as well as visiting former Palestinian residents of Tantura in an effort to re-examine what happened in the village and explore why "The Nakba" is taboo in Israeli society. The now elderly ex-soldiers recall unsettling acts of war while disquietly pausing at points they either don't want to remember or won't speak of. Audio from Katz's 20-year-old interviews cuts through the silence of self-preservation and exposes the ways in which power, silencing, and protected narratives can sculpt history. The film provides a rare look at Israeli society's first-generation and how the country's founding myth has shaped reality for generations. The film brings never before seen archival footage from the war of 1948 alongside intimate interviews with ex-Israeli soldiers, Palestinian residents, and historians.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt16378034/
https://www.israelunwired.com/mind-blowing-idf-takes-extreme-actions-to-help-save-gazan-civilians/
The Israeli's were trying their very best to live in peace with the Palestinians. Israel provided water, food, and electricity to them. Israel allowed Palestinian workers to cross the border. Hamas declared war when they butchered, raped, tortured over 1200 innocent people, and took hostages. Every death of a Palestinian child is due to Hamas, their fault, no one else. Polls show that most Palestinians supported Hamas, Palestinian families with mom, dad, and children in the house held some of the Israeli hostages. Don't you understand that there would not be one single death in this conflict, if Hamas didn't perform their vile attack?
Yes, of course. I stated, “Hamas is bad. They’re terrorists.” Children are not Hamas. Don’t YOU understand that? All children are innocent. Gaza has at least a million children. They don’t deserve to be terrorized. No child does. It only propagates more terrorists in the future. Because they will never forget what they’ve been put through. Stop equating Hamas with all Palestinians. Please. That is utterly moronic. I have seen the stories of those suffering from constant bombings. Doctors trying to save lives. Not Hamas! People. Human beings. Innocent people. For God sakes. Not all Palestinians are Hamas. And not all IDF soldiers have clean hands either. They tell them to leave because bombs will be dropping & when they do, they get attacked while they’re leaving. What about disabled people? How are they supposed to get out of the way? Babies & young children who’ve lost both parents now? They can’t read the flyers telling them to go. There are lots of nuances going on with this situation. And it is genocide when you are cut off from food, fresh water, medicines, shelter, safety, etc. There’s no other word for it.
You feed the baby cockroaches too?
Hit a nerve, did I? 🤣
I posted a reply to you but it is under one of Duane's comments below.
https://www.israelunwired.com/mind-blowing-idf-takes-extreme-actions-to-help-save-gazan-civilians/
What would you have Israel do, not fight back? Allow a terror camp to continue right next door, funded by billions $$$ from Iran and Arab countries, and even the USA, Biden sent $300 million to Gaza? Hamas has pledged to continue attacks just like Oct 7, to last forever. Why aren't you crying for all the Israeli lives lost, (including the last 30 years of terror attacks from Jihadists), rockets streaming in and landing on civilian area's. The butchery of the Oct 7 attack was the final straw, Israel decided to end the existence of Hamas, no matter what it takes. I can't blame them. Remember, 80% of the Palestinians supported the Oct 7 attack, they elected Hamas, even families there came across the border to rape, pillage, and murder Israeli's. One hostage said that she was held captive in a family home, mom, dad, and the kids. She says all of the Palestinians are terrorists. The IDF tries hard to not injure civilians, something that the Muslims do not do. Not one person would have been injured or died if Hamas had not attacked. All the blame for every baby and persons deaths are to Hamas.
Denise, Duane and the Israelis and IDF appear to approve of "collective punishment" as practiced by the US during the American Civil War and later also by Nazi Germany and others.
Nazi Germany killed 2300 civilians in the Kragujevac massacre, as retaliation for 10 German soldiers killed by Yugoslav Partisans in Nazi-occupied Serbia in 1941.
Using Duane's logic, what those Nazis did was acceptable because none of those 2300 civilians, not one, would have been killed if the Partisans had not attacked the German soldiers.
"Collective punishment is a punishment or sanction imposed on a group for acts allegedly perpetrated by a member of that group, which could be an ethnic or political group, or just the family, friends and neighbors of the perpetrator. Because individuals who are not responsible for the acts are targeted, collective punishment is not compatible with the basic principle of individual responsibility. The punished group may often have no direct association with the perpetrator other than living in the same area and can not be assumed to exercise control over the perpetrator's actions. Collective punishment is prohibited by treaty in both international and non-international armed conflicts, more specifically Common Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention and Article 4 of the Additional Protocol II."
"The principle of collective punishment was laid out by Union General William Tecumseh Sherman in his Special Field Order 120, November 9, 1864, which laid out the rules for his "March to the sea" in the American Civil War:
V. To army corps commanders alone is entrusted the power to destroy mills, houses, cotton-gins, etc..., and for them this general principle is laid down: In districts and neighborhoods where the army is unmolested, no destruction of such property should be permitted; but should guerrillas or bushwhackers molest our march, or should the inhabitants burn bridges, obstruct roads, or otherwise manifest local hostility, then army commanders should order and enforce a devastation more or less relentless according to the measure of such hostility."
"The current blockade of Gaza has been criticized by the International Committee of the Red Cross, in a United Nations report, and by various other organisations as collective punishment aimed at the Palestinians."
"UN condemns 'war crimes' in Gaza". BBC News. September 16, 2009. Archived from the original on October 8, 2022. Retrieved December 10, 2011.
"ICRC says Israel's Gaza blockade breaks law". BBC News. June 14, 2010. Archived from the original on April 14, 2019. Retrieved June 21, 2018.
"US Congress freeze on $200m Palestinian aid criticised". BBC News. October 4, 2011. Archived from the original on October 9, 2018. Retrieved June 21, 2018.
It must have been terrifying for her having to live with a Palestinian family.
Thank God that we're not responsible for the US attack on Iraq in 2003, oh wait, I guess we are.
There's no doubt that the USA has made many mistakes, the invasion of Iraq was certainly one. There was a Iraqi group that wanted Saddam finished, and they convinced us of the WMD, even the UN went along. Saddam did use poison gas on Iraqi's. If Saddam had simply let the weapons inspectors do their jobs, the invasion wouldn't have occurred.
Yeah sure, I suppose that the NeoCon PNAC policy paper, A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm, had nothing to do with it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm
Dr. Alexander you must be familiar with the School of the Americas. This is our COUNTRY man. We do dat. No wonder murdering millions by fake medicine and fake science is passionately praised by the Bureaucrats.
School of the Americas: Training Torturers & Secret Police for US-Backed Dictators Since 1946. Over 64,000 soldiers have been trained to oppress, smash dissent, and maintain American imperial order since the “school” first opened. his article was originally published in December 2015.
For the past 69 years, many of the most notorious U.S.-backed South American dictators, along with their secret police and torturers, have learned their dark arts from a secretive American training facility.
Located in Fort Benning, Georgia, the facility changed its name from “School of the Americas” to “Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation” in 2001. Human rights advocates say the change was purely cosmetic, a result of the increasing pressure the facility faced from activists and other critics. In November, thousands protested outside Fort Benning in what has become an annual occurrence.
Originally founded in 1946 and based in Panama, it was expelled from the nation in 1984 under the terms of the Panama Canal Treaty. According to SOA Watch, a nonprofit which seeks the closure of the torture school, hundreds of thousands of Latin Americans have been tortured, raped, murdered or “disappeared” through the work of its 64,000 graduates.
It first became a target for activists over three decades ago, after repeated atrocities in El Salvador were linked to graduates of the school. In December of 1980, three Catholic nuns, Dorothy Kazel, Maura Clarke, and Ita Ford, along with a Catholic lay missionary, Jean Donovan, were kidnapped by El Salvadoran soldiers who proceeded to torture, rape, and murder the four women under orders from the country’s military dictatorship in retaliation for their advocacy for the impoverished. https://www.globalresearch.ca/school-of-the-americas-training-torturers-secret-police-for-us-backed-dictators-since-1946/5647471
We will never forget nor forgive.
The problem, colonization is that they introduce the violence when they invaded these countries then when they respond they are now called terrorist
colonization is the Muslim invasion of Europe.
I get it but most of the people who are invading are coming from places that were invaded. It’s not good for anyone
Who invaded Syria, Guatemala, Venezuela, China? What places do you think were invaded?
Get and read a copy of the Qu'ran before you speak again. Learn what islam is.
"God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3). He orders another attack and the killing of all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses (Joshua 6). In Judges 21 He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife!
Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody! In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church! In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered
The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 & Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person."
https://www.evilbible.com/
Because of tales of murder and atrocities in the bible, I've never believed that all of it is the "word of God" like so many Christian fanatics claim. It's down right stupid.
Exactly- it could be the same "voices" A/K/A Demons, that told David Berkowitz (the Son of Sam) to KILL. KILL. KILL!
Speaking for myself, I don't believe that "God" spoke to anyone, or that any kind of God advocated any of this. We see in the Old Testament, "God" regularly speaking to many individuals, but this is all fiction, made up by the ancient authors of those prehistoric times. The same with all the times "Allah" spoke with Muhammad. All fiction
Qur'an 5.33 "The punishment for those who wage war against Allah and his Prophet and make mischief in the land, is to murder them, crucify them, or cut off a hand and foot on opposite sides. Their doom is dreadful They will not escape the fire, suffering constantly
Look where muslims got the idea from. See my reply above to Dorothy Ann.
Then we also know that Islam plagiarized much from the Bible and the Torah, to create their Qur'an. Everybody's in the Qur'an, Jesus, Gabriel, John, Mary, Moses, even King David, who they anoint as another prophet.
Again the difference is that Muslims today still practice what the Qur'an tells them to do, from the era of 700-800 AD, but Christians don't practice the murders and atrocities of the Old Testament, with few exceptions. I found a verse in the Qur'an that described exactly the rape and tortures that Hamas did to the Israeli females, such as cutting off body parts, but didn't book mark it like I should have.
That is a verbatim, accurate quote.
There is no such thing as a "good Muslim." There are only apostates and terrorists in training.
eat = meat
Jews, Armenians, Kurdish, Palestinians....
https://www.westernjournal.com/op-ed-what-would-we-do/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=newsletter-WJ&utm_campaign=dailyam&utm_content=western-journal