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Hamas is entirely to blame for every war dead Israeli AND Gazan child.

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Hamas is a creature of Mossad, Kathleen. Owned and operated by the Israeli government. That factoid is very easy to verify. Thus, Netenyahu is responsible for every dead Israeli and Gazan child.

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Sort of like Frankenstein devouring it's creater.

Ok. I've heard that too, that Bibi is responsible for Hamas. Ok, POLITICS is one thing, mass murder is another. Whoever, WHATEVER murdered the thousand or 1500 Jews starting Oct 7 needs to "be no more". I'd like that the only ones killed were Hamas, but they embed in schools, hospitals SPECIFICALLY so that there is ALWAYS massive collateral damage- they COUNT on fighting morally superior people who actually just want to stop the killing of men, women, and children of their religion and of their country. Hamas DESIRES MORE DEATH, and DOESN'T CARE about collateral damage, even if the dead are of their faith and are neighbors. In fact Hamas FORBIDS innocent people from leaving to save themselves. They DESIRE more death of their neighbor's men women and children. Israel should go to extreme lengths (and always have- they drop inert weights on buildings to warn people inside that they are going to destroy it. They also treat enemy soldiers, even though they know these people are going to attack Israel as soon as they recover. STILL Hamas forbids their departure, ensuring maximum death.

In situations like these, it is very difficult to avoid collateral damage.

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Please don't beclown yourself with more illiteracy in the history of Israel and *palestine*. If Israel is occupying Palestinian land, can you please explain the basis in international law for Palestinian ownership of this land? There has never been a Palestinian state of any kind, ever, at any point in history. No pali people, no pali land. *Palestine* is the name given by the Romans to the region occupied by Judea, literally 'land of the Jews. In modern times, the previous *owners* were the Ottomans. The Ottomans ceded control, post- WW1 to the League of Nations, the region of Palestine and Transjordan. The League granted administrative control over these territories to Britain with specific instructions to create a “national home for the Jewish people.”

Britain immediately turned over 3/4 of the Mandate to the Arabs to create Jordan but remained committed to establishing a Jewish national home in the remainder. This was known as the Mandate for Palestine. Sometimes Leftists erroneously and deceitfully point to it as the Palestinian state that supposedly predated Israel, but this claim relies on the ignorance of the fact that this British territory had been explicitly set aside for Jewish settlement; nine years before the founding of the modern state of Israel, a 1939 flag of “Palestine” sports a star of David.

In 1948, the Arabs launched their infamous war on Israel. There actually WERE 2 occupations---Egypt occupied Gaza, and Jordan occupied Judea and Samaria (which it renamed the West Bank). Israel won back those territories in the Six-Day War of 1967, but that was actually ending an occupation, not starting one: the only international law governing sovereignty over those territories stipulated that they were to be part of a national home for the Jewish people.

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I agree with your assessment, Richard A. I'd have been proud to have expressed the same sentiment.

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Proof, please. Not conspiratorial ravings. Proof. The very, very worst and case is that your contention is a wild misrepresentation based on a claim by *someone in the know* who peddled his story to the sympathetic NYT and WSJ.

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Have a look at my reply to Martin Srugis, below...

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You have no proof of the idiotic statement.

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Perhaps consider what the son of one of Hamas' founders has to say:

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/israel-hamas-mosab-hassan-yousef/2023/11/03/id/1140878/

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I listened to a audio tape of the founder of Hamas's son. It must of been hard to leave all of his friends and relatives because he had become a Christian and no longer wanted involvement in killing innocent men, women and children with Hamas. We BADLY need more moral clarity and moral courage. I think we are shorter on moral courage than we are on physical courage- it's obvious the son of Hamas's founder has much moral AND physical courage

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And furthermore:

Via Paul Craig Roberts - "When Did Genocide Become Self-defense?" https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2023/11/03/when-did-genocide-become-self-defense/:

An Occupying Power Has No Right to Self-defense

💣 Israel’s actions in Gaza are not ‘self-defense’ - https://www.rt.com/news/586427-israel-no-right-self-defense/

💣 Israel is “defending itself” by attacking refugee camps and hospitals. - https://www.rt.com/news/586423-israel-airstrike-gaza-refugee-camp/

💣 Biden ignores Jewish Rabbi’s call for Gaza Ceasefire - https://www.rt.com/news/586418-rabbi-biden-gaza-ceasefire/

💣 Not one of the 100 US senators has yet called for a ceasefire. Everyone of them is bought-and-paid-for by Israel. - https://sputnikglobe.com/20231102/us-has-blood-on-its-hands-over-israels-bombing-of-gaza–peace-campaigner-1114664860.html "

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Thank you, Capt. Roy, for taking the time to provide this source material contrary to my view of the Hamas-Israeli War. I have a few sincere questions:

1.) What would a ceasefire accomplish but force Israel to continue to live in a state of neverending tension until the next attack by Hamas?

2.) Isn't Israel the last bastion protecting the Holy Land? A less dedicated people would simply give up and the entire Middle East would be overrun by Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt. THAT situation would be a worse threat to the entire Western world than the current plague of jihadists in Europe and the U.S.

3.) I cannot help seeing similarities between Hamas and their pretense of a nation called "Palestine" and the nonsensical claims of critical race theory and BLM.

4.) I am neither Jewish nor Arab so my reactions are based solely upon my observations and the rhetoric of BOTH sides of this conflict.

5.) It seems to me that Gaza was carved out for the express purpose of preventing Israel from living in peace. I think the land should be annexed by Israel. Any Gazan who can live and work cooperatively and peacefully in modern civilization can stay. It doesn't seem that's possible given their history, however.

6.) The other arab states prefer to watch Hamas and Gazans die rather than ask for a ceasefire to REMOVE them to a safe haven and assimilate them. That says a great deal to me about their intentions. They appear to be satisfied to sacrifice Gazans as martyrs for the purpose of demonizing Israel -- which seems to be the ultimate goal of every other Middle East country.

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"You take The Blue Pill, the story ends, you wake up in your bed, and believe -- whatever you want to. If you take The Red Pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes..."

-- Morpheus, "The Matrix"

As I said to Richard: If you can't, or won't see it Kathleen, I can't make you see it. Forgive me for this, but your comments only demonstrate to me you're brainwashed by The Controlled Mainstream Media. Watch Asha Logos' presentation to start (https://www.bitchute.com/video/2BNkmsR70oFM/). It is unpleasant (he admits this himself) but none-the-less true. You simply cannot trust anything in the media. As to your points:

1. "Israel" is an illegal regime, the Israelis are occupying land that does not belong to them, and Holy Scripture (largely as bogus as The Book of Mormon) notwithstanding, never did. I link to the Nazi connections to the foundation of Israel (yes I'm absolutely serious) here: https://captroyharkness.substack.com/p/thoughts-at-the-end-of-october-on; Mike Adams speaks to the racist, genocidal reality of "Zionism" , starting at 14:20, here: https://www.brighteon.com/58730e69-d8dc-47c8-8641-c7c342c147cf

2. This is nothing but Zionist Propaganda. The justification for Israeli occupation began with "The Balfour Declaration". Sigurd Kristinsen speaks of the reality of it, here: https://www.unz.com/article/destination-1922-a-return-to-claims-of-the-arabs-in-palestine/

3. The Palestinians, far as I can tell, have been living there, for the last 1,500 years at least... I've never heard of "similarities between Hamas and their pretense of a nation called "Palestine" and the nonsensical claims of critical race theory and BLM." before but, given the Jewish origins of all these things, to learn of similarities would not surprise me.

4. This conflict is completely artificial. I recommend the articles in unz.com as an anodyne.

5. What you're in fact talking about is continued theft and genocide: The Palestinians are in no way at fault. The Israelis are. Watch Max Igan's presentation that I linked you: "The True Face of Israel" - https://www.bitchute.com/video/mkTJPyejJAkX/. Watch John Pilger's documentary "Palestine is Still the Issue": https://www.bitchute.com/video/sse5Wnee89aw/. Go to Alison Weir's "If Americans Knew" https://ifamericansknew.org/

6. Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and Egypt have over the last 75 years already absorbed countless millions of displaced Palestinians. You're expecting them to absorb 2.6 million more? Paul Joseph Watson speaks about what the Israelis are trying to foist on all of us here; I've read similar accounts in other places. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ciqq-FTY_qU&t=23s

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The usual noxious, fellatial pro-Israel propaganda Kathleen. Asha Logos does a very nice analysis / dissection of the Controlled Mainstream Media here: "A Modestly Priced Weapon: Our Controlled Press" - https://www.bitchute.com/video/2BNkmsR70oFM/

Why don't you watch instead Max Igan's latest: "The True Face of Israel" - https://www.bitchute.com/video/mkTJPyejJAkX/

You'll likely want to watch it in 10 - 15 minute chunks, even if it's 1:38:33 long -- because it's that searing.

There's a lovely vignette of young Israeli women dancing in ecstacy at the thought of the latest Palestinian genocide. There's also another lovely vignette of Israeli soldiers pushing Palestinian civilians -- their eyes taped shut, their hands z-strapped behind their backs into a large trench full of tires, where they're then shot. According to Igan after that, the whole mess was set on fire...

Atrocity begats atrocity.

Adolf Hitler must be chortling in Hell.

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Your propaganda is obscene, speaking of chortling in Hell.

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My "propaganda" is in fact, a reflection of what's happening in reality, has been happening in Occupied Palestine, for the past 75 years!

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Go look for it Martin: It's very easy to find. But use the Russian search engine Yandex: Google is compromised.

PS I just did your homework for you:

Entered "hamas was created by mossad" in the Yandex search bar, here's responses 2 - 5, vis:

💣 https://politicalvelcraft.org/2015/06/28/hamas-created-by-israels-mossad-this-stranglehold-has-got-to-be-broken/

💣 https://counterinformation.wordpress.com/2023/10/08/history-was-hamas-a-creation-of-mossad/

💣 https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-10-12-hamas-created-israel-yasser-arafat-ron-paul.html

💣 https://www.henrymakow.com/israelcreatedhamastoavoid.html

PPS And also: Do something about your manners.

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Even granting that Hamad was created by Machevellian Israeli politicians cannot stop their necessarily complete destruction in order to preserve life. Hamas is evil and must be destroyed. You would have a better argument in that Israel needs to be as careful as possible to kill only the "bad guys". The "bad guys" NEED "neutralization" YESTERDAY. The sooner the "bad guys" are gone, the sooner Israel can leave assured that these (dead) terrorists will not be responsible for further death of innocents.

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Wait for it...the response will be *it's lies, I tell you, all lies. Believe me, not those Jews*. No matter how one tries to cultivate a false veneer of learnedness by prolifically posting anti-semitic propaganda, it all falls apart when viewed through the prism of literacy.

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Richard, if you can't see it, or won't see it, I can't make you see it: Everything you are being told by the Mainstream Media about the latest atrocity, is a lie. The "score" last time I checked, was 1,400 Israelis murdered by this latest false flag -- and 9,000 Palestinians. 4,000 of those were children, 2,500 were women.

Here’s the impossible-for-most-people-to-swallow reality of the situation in Occupied Palestine for the past 75 years: Since the beginning of The Nakba in 1948, the Palestinian people have been systematically and at gunpoint forced out of their homes and off their land by the (illegal) State of Israel; dispossessed, robbed, raped – and murdered – at least a million people, quite possibly by now 1.5 or 2 million. As fine an example of on-going genocide as you could wish for, with the additional promise by the Netanyahu government of the additional genocide of the residents of The Gaza Strip. 2.6 million people. Half of them, under the age of 17. And the people committing these incomprehensible Crimes Against Humanity? For the last 75 years? ... are Jews...

💣 I write about it here, I include links, including references to the Nazi connections to Zionism and foundation of the illegal state of Israel. Yes. I'm serious:

https://captroyharkness.substack.com/p/thoughts-at-the-end-of-october-on

💣 Mike Adams talks about the reality of "Zionism" (A racist, genocidal cult if ever there was one) here, starting about 14:20: https://www.brighteon.com/58730e69-d8dc-47c8-8641-c7c342c147cf

💣 Max Igan speaks of what is happening, here: "The True Face of Israel" - https://www.bitchute.com/video/mkTJPyejJAkX/

💣 If that's not enough for you, go to "If Americans Knew": https://ifamericansknew.org/

💣 And finally from years ago, John Pilger's documentary "Palestine is Still the Issue": https://www.bitchute.com/video/sse5Wnee89aw/

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Israel was not a country before 1948. How do you think they removed palestinians from their homeland ? By violence. 80 years of killing palestinians... no wonder they hate jews huh

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Israel has existed for 3 millenia. Conversely, there has never been a *palestinian* nation, nationality, ethnicity. The Romans, in the second century, renamed the entire region 'Palestine'...LITERALLY the 'land of the Jews'. In the same way that Staten Island is a general region, or the Midwest is a region, so is Palestine. The Ottomans ruled for 4 centuries prior to WW1, when they ceded to the League of Nations, the region of Palestine and Transjordan. Administrative control was then handed over to the Brits, with the commitment, in writing, to create a national home for the Jewish people. The Brits then turned over a large chunk of that to the Arabs, to create Jordan, with the rest, including the area now fallaciously referred to as *Palestine*, set aside for the creation of Israel. Israel's Arab neighbors immediately attacked Israel, by occupying land set aside for Israel---Gaza and the West Bank. Gaza was held by Egypt, who then lost it to Israel in 1967. Israel also reclaimed the West Bank, also known as Judea and Samaria, from Jordan. The *occupiers* are the *Palestinians*. The ONLY international law governing sovereignty over those territories specifically stipulated that they were to be part of a national home for the Jewish people.

This is historical, unarguably documented fact. And now you see how pernicious the pro-Palestinian propaganda actually is, when it arrogantly defies factual reality, and exploits the latent or overt Jew-hatred in so many people.

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There is a difference between jews e Islington for millenia abd Israel which necessitates a gov ..political org.

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That is impossible. Hamas brought it upon itself. All deaths are on their bloody hands.

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you think?

civilian deaths are human atrocities. 2 wrongs don’t make a right. what happened in Israel and Gaza is a stain on humanity. shame on all those who support this bloodbath (either side).

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What about the killing and violent forced removal of palestianians to create Israel in 1948? Israel is built on murder and genocide

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i’m well aware. 1 million arabs (not palestinians) were “relocated” to make way for 1948. by relocation, it depends on which side you listen to. one will say they “paid them fair price” … the other will say they were “robbed and forced out”.

i don’t support the killing of ANY civilians (young or old) no matter what side they are on. it’s an atrocity

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Nice sentiment, but the savages do not follow the “rules of war” no matter how much you tell them to...the only way to eliminate the savages is to get on their level and annihilate them . You try to protect the innocent but the savages put them in that position..war is hell.

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The phrase “Rules of WAR” .. is an OXYMORON

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How. 😢

Thinking anyone would follow “rules of law” was a fantasy .. after end of ww2.

Otherwise it wouldn’t be a WAR

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Their are no rules of war, that is what war is, do you mean. don't follow the rules of paid off propaganda? Paul ish boy

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I disagree. If you understand the decolonization rhetoric you see how people are used as pawns. I asked a friend how is this different than our ghettos? The black community thrived under terrible conditions. As two older black men said, black people are their best when whites are at their worst. But Sartre type philosophy came in and those who profit from victimization took over.

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Very sad but unavoidable.

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Israel has been slaughtering palestinian families since the country was made up in 1948. Does anyone know history? Cant anyone see through the pernicious jews and their lies

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Too late Dr. Paul. The Israeli government has already murdered 9,000 Palestinians with this False Flag as pretext. 4,000 of them were children.

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So sad but from what I’ve read well yes Israeli government policies are responsible… sometimes I’m not sure what to believe but I know that this situation is from Netanyahu…. Years ago I heard a private recording of him talking/thoughts on Palestine and it was truly shocking… he’s evil

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In all fairness, most "World Leaders" are.. It's why Asha Logos refers to it as a "Kakistocracy"...

A friend refered Max Igan's latest presentation. It's nearly an hour and forty minutes, but you'll have to watch it in 10 - 15 minute doses with longish breaks, it's that searing.

Forward it, far and wide.

"The Truth Face of Israel" https://www.bitchute.com/video/pBSOvrKwwdQN/

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I think Lindsay Graham gets his rocks off on kids getting killed. What are his religions? Does he follow a religion.that promotes sacrifice of other people's children? Is he an Aztec or a Satanist? Perhaps he is wanting a mass exodus of Palestinian muslim refugees so they can be resttled in the US. Perhaps he just wants to ensure that Israel and the Jewish people stay in the middle east as far away as possible and don't return to Europe or relocate to the US.

Lindsey Graham says there is 'no limit' to the number of civilians it's justifiable for Israel to kill ...

https://www.businessinsider.com/lindsey-graham-says-no-limit-to-civilians-its-justifiable-for-israel-to-kill-2023-11

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