Ontario nurses? They did what? Won what decision against forced vaccines & masks in 2018 for influenza virus? Are you kidding? Seems no, Ontario nurses won a 2018 case against vaccinate or mask (VOM)
Ontario nurses? They did what? Won what decision against forced vaccines & masks in 2018 for influenza virus? Are you kidding? Seems no, Ontario nurses won a 2018 case against vaccinate or mask (VOM)
Sept. 7, 2018 /CNW/ - The Ontario Nurses' Association (ONA) has won a second decision on the controversial vaccinate or mask (VOM) policy, striking down the policy in effect at St. Michael's Hospital
Nurses all across Canada should get the transcripts from this and use it for the same thing now that there is precedence to go by. Could be a chance to get more people to see the truth.
Dr Paul, the ONA (Ontario Nurse's Association) won this battle twice, in 2015 and 2018. Ontario's Labour Court decided that the ONA was correct, in that mandating masks in Ontario hospitals during flu outbreaks does not protect anyone, provides a false sense of security to patients and is harmful to wearers. The court ruled that mandating the flu shot is ineffective as the efficacy is about 30% at best.
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Nurses Union Wins Battle Over ‘Vaccinate Or Mask’ Policy, Here’s Why
Dawn Papple - Author
By Dawn Papple
Oct. 9 2015, Updated 4:51 p.m. ET
Over 30 hospitals that have implemented a “vaccinate or mask” policy will no longer be able to use this method to encourage flu vaccination, an arbitrator ruled. A case was brought against the Sault Area Hospital in Sault Ste. Marie after the hospital tried to implement the policy in order to boost immunization rates, according to the Ontario Nurses Association president Linda Haslam-Stroud. The policy forced nurses and other healthcare workers to wear surgical masks for their entire shifts for the duration of the entire flu season regardless of if the staff was showing symptoms of illness or not, or if they refused to get their annual flu shot.
The Sault Area Hospital in Sault Ste. Marie was trying to shame workers into vaccinating, Haslam-Stroud said.
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“They were basically coercing and shaming nurses into getting the influenza vaccine if they individually chose not to take it. They made them all wear masks and they had little stickers on their name tag that everyone knew meant ‘I don’t have my vaccine.”‘
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The Ontario Nurses Association claimed that the “vaccinate or mask” policy was a violation of private medical information, because it allowed everyone to be able to tell which healthcare workers had not been vaccinated, Dr. Michael Gardam, director of infection prevention and control at the University Health Network and Women’s College Hospital in Toronto, explained.
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“Essentially they are outing you, because your personal health information — whether you get vaccinated or not — is now public knowledge because you’re forced to wear a mask. People know who you are.”
— SEIU Healthcare (@SEIUHealthCan) October 8, 2015
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The arbitrator on the case determined that the “vaccinate or mask” policy was unreasonable and called it “a coercive tool” instead of a protective health policy. During the case, medical experts testified on behalf of the Ontario Nurses Association stating that it was completely illogical to force healthy nurses to wear masks. The arbitrator said that the masks they wore were never actually protecting patients or other nurses from the flu.
“The sad part about it is it was giving our patients a false sense of security, and we knew that,” Haslam-Stroud explained.
Is your #primarycare office prepared for Flu Season? Contact us for Mask Fit Testing services! #WaterlooRegion pic.twitter.com/cme2dRterc — Nurse Educator (@NurseEducator2) October 2, 2015
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While the Ontario Nurses Association celebrated, the Ontario Hospital Association expressed disappointment in the ruling.
— Find Present Truth (@FindTheTruth7) September 15, 2015
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Dr. Gardam stated that the flu shot is only about 40 to 60 percent effective during its best years. Gardam argued that considering this statistic, the mask policy should extend to all hospital workers if it was really about preventing the spread of the flu.
“So the only way you can really explain that argument is to say ‘well, it’s not really that the masks are working,”‘ Dr. Gardam said. “It’s because the masks are a way of driving you towards vaccination.”
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The nurses union said that the “vaccinate or mask” policy was never a science-based policy; it was all about shaming and coercing nurses and other healthcare workers into getting vaccinated. If someone has the flu, there are already provisions in the nurses’ agreements with the hospitals that any non-vaccinated nurses would be assigned to another ward, according to the Canadian Press.
“I am not going to suggest that anyone should be forced to take the vaccine,” said Haslam-Stroud. “I personally take it, but it is an individual right as a nurse.”
A paper published last year in CMAJ boasted about the “vaccinate or mask” program paying off in two Canadian provinces, despite a “deeply divided staff of all stripes.” Employee immunization rates went up after the program launched in 2012. The article also cited legitimate improvements in the health of the staff.
“We used to have two or three units that closed for periods because both the nurses and patients would get the flu — that’s stopped for the last two years,” Marilyn Babineau, regional manager of employee health and wellness at Horizon Health Network in New Brunswick, stated.
With flu shot vaccination rates at around 70 percent, absenteeism dropped an average of two hours per employee, the author of the CMAJ article explained.
“Multiply that by 13,000 employees and it doesn’t take long to start saving some money,” Babineau stated.
By 2014, grievances were already brought against the government by the Health Sciences Association of British Columbia which was representing about 16,000 healthcare employees. The complaints from nurses and other healthcare workers cited the lack of effectiveness of the flu shot and the lack of evidence that healthy nurses wearing masks during flu season could even protect against flu transmission, according to the London Free Press.
The Plandemic was a hoax from day one. These crazy ass politicians and doctors really thought they could pull the wool over some people’s eyes. People are so damn gullible. People are dying everyday of AIDS, Cancer, COPD, Diabetes, Heart Attacks, Old Age, Strokes, Tuberculosis. I had a massive stroke coming up on ten years ago, I couldn’t walk, talk, or swallow. I had a lot of tubes in me and I was on a vent. Yes people have died from Coronavirus. People die from the flu too. It was all brought on by the Wuhan in China. It’s all about politics and big pharma.
Thank you for posting! Here is an excerpt from the decision when science still existed:
ONA's well-regarded expert witnesses, including Toronto infection control expert Dr. Michael Gardam, Quebec epidemiologist Dr. Gaston De Serres, and Dr. Lisa Brosseau, an American expert on masks, testified that there was insufficient evidence to support the St. Michael's policy and no evidence that forcing healthy nurses to wear masks during the influenza season did anything to prevent transmission of influenza in hospitals. They further testified that nurses who have no symptoms are unlikely to be a real source of transmission and that it was not logical to force healthy unvaccinated nurses to mask. Arbitrator Kaplan accepted this expert evidence. In contrast, he noted the only fair words to describe the hospital's evidence in support of masking are "insufficient, inadequate and completely unpersuasive."
He also agreed with ONA that there was little evidence of any positive impact on patient care outcomes as a result of the VOM policy. Both prior to and after introducing the policy, hospitals continued to experience outbreaks of influenza. He concluded the evidence supported that masks "do not prevent the transmission of the influenza virus."
A news report says the CEO and prior President of this nursing association flipped 180 degrees last year to support mandatory masking and vaccinations for all health-care workers for COVID-19. They allegedly opposed the opposers. Suggest asking them what the real reason(s) were for changing positions.
WHO is what is different ...
A small win...but we here in the US should take it and run with it.
Can we get the evidence presented?
But it has done a good job of moving worldwide genocide ahead under the guise of a bogus pandemic.
Nurses all across Canada should get the transcripts from this and use it for the same thing now that there is precedence to go by. Could be a chance to get more people to see the truth.
I wanna be treated by nurse who's smart and ethical. Where'd all the nurses go, long time ago
Dr Paul, the ONA (Ontario Nurse's Association) won this battle twice, in 2015 and 2018. Ontario's Labour Court decided that the ONA was correct, in that mandating masks in Ontario hospitals during flu outbreaks does not protect anyone, provides a false sense of security to patients and is harmful to wearers. The court ruled that mandating the flu shot is ineffective as the efficacy is about 30% at best.
The Inquisitr
Home > Canada News > #metoo
Nurses Union Wins Battle Over ‘Vaccinate Or Mask’ Policy, Here’s Why
Dawn Papple - Author
By Dawn Papple
Oct. 9 2015, Updated 4:51 p.m. ET
Over 30 hospitals that have implemented a “vaccinate or mask” policy will no longer be able to use this method to encourage flu vaccination, an arbitrator ruled. A case was brought against the Sault Area Hospital in Sault Ste. Marie after the hospital tried to implement the policy in order to boost immunization rates, according to the Ontario Nurses Association president Linda Haslam-Stroud. The policy forced nurses and other healthcare workers to wear surgical masks for their entire shifts for the duration of the entire flu season regardless of if the staff was showing symptoms of illness or not, or if they refused to get their annual flu shot.
The Sault Area Hospital in Sault Ste. Marie was trying to shame workers into vaccinating, Haslam-Stroud said.
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Blockquote open
“They were basically coercing and shaming nurses into getting the influenza vaccine if they individually chose not to take it. They made them all wear masks and they had little stickers on their name tag that everyone knew meant ‘I don’t have my vaccine.”‘
-
Blockquote close
The Ontario Nurses Association claimed that the “vaccinate or mask” policy was a violation of private medical information, because it allowed everyone to be able to tell which healthcare workers had not been vaccinated, Dr. Michael Gardam, director of infection prevention and control at the University Health Network and Women’s College Hospital in Toronto, explained.
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“Essentially they are outing you, because your personal health information — whether you get vaccinated or not — is now public knowledge because you’re forced to wear a mask. People know who you are.”
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Can your hospital make you wear a mask http://t.co/wHIEGGYIkO if you didn’t take the #flu shot? #onhealth #canlab pic.twitter.com/mPt0kqFJXH
— SEIU Healthcare (@SEIUHealthCan) October 8, 2015
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The arbitrator on the case determined that the “vaccinate or mask” policy was unreasonable and called it “a coercive tool” instead of a protective health policy. During the case, medical experts testified on behalf of the Ontario Nurses Association stating that it was completely illogical to force healthy nurses to wear masks. The arbitrator said that the masks they wore were never actually protecting patients or other nurses from the flu.
“The sad part about it is it was giving our patients a false sense of security, and we knew that,” Haslam-Stroud explained.
Is your #primarycare office prepared for Flu Season? Contact us for Mask Fit Testing services! #WaterlooRegion pic.twitter.com/cme2dRterc — Nurse Educator (@NurseEducator2) October 2, 2015
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While the Ontario Nurses Association celebrated, the Ontario Hospital Association expressed disappointment in the ruling.
Finally good news about personal rights regarding vaccines: http://t.co/bHmKuP6O98
— Find Present Truth (@FindTheTruth7) September 15, 2015
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Dr. Gardam stated that the flu shot is only about 40 to 60 percent effective during its best years. Gardam argued that considering this statistic, the mask policy should extend to all hospital workers if it was really about preventing the spread of the flu.
“So the only way you can really explain that argument is to say ‘well, it’s not really that the masks are working,”‘ Dr. Gardam said. “It’s because the masks are a way of driving you towards vaccination.”
Article continues below advertisement
The nurses union said that the “vaccinate or mask” policy was never a science-based policy; it was all about shaming and coercing nurses and other healthcare workers into getting vaccinated. If someone has the flu, there are already provisions in the nurses’ agreements with the hospitals that any non-vaccinated nurses would be assigned to another ward, according to the Canadian Press.
“I am not going to suggest that anyone should be forced to take the vaccine,” said Haslam-Stroud. “I personally take it, but it is an individual right as a nurse.”
A paper published last year in CMAJ boasted about the “vaccinate or mask” program paying off in two Canadian provinces, despite a “deeply divided staff of all stripes.” Employee immunization rates went up after the program launched in 2012. The article also cited legitimate improvements in the health of the staff.
“We used to have two or three units that closed for periods because both the nurses and patients would get the flu — that’s stopped for the last two years,” Marilyn Babineau, regional manager of employee health and wellness at Horizon Health Network in New Brunswick, stated.
With flu shot vaccination rates at around 70 percent, absenteeism dropped an average of two hours per employee, the author of the CMAJ article explained.
“Multiply that by 13,000 employees and it doesn’t take long to start saving some money,” Babineau stated.
By 2014, grievances were already brought against the government by the Health Sciences Association of British Columbia which was representing about 16,000 healthcare employees. The complaints from nurses and other healthcare workers cited the lack of effectiveness of the flu shot and the lack of evidence that healthy nurses wearing masks during flu season could even protect against flu transmission, according to the London Free Press.
that is a precedent !
Sadly, the nursing unions fully support the COVID mask and vaccine mandates as far as I know.
The Plandemic was a hoax from day one. These crazy ass politicians and doctors really thought they could pull the wool over some people’s eyes. People are so damn gullible. People are dying everyday of AIDS, Cancer, COPD, Diabetes, Heart Attacks, Old Age, Strokes, Tuberculosis. I had a massive stroke coming up on ten years ago, I couldn’t walk, talk, or swallow. I had a lot of tubes in me and I was on a vent. Yes people have died from Coronavirus. People die from the flu too. It was all brought on by the Wuhan in China. It’s all about politics and big pharma.
I'm so heartsick. So is this unvaccinated Ontario nurse who drew her last nursing paycheck 1 YEAR ago. 😢
https://youtube.com/shorts/aGZqUnf0b98?feature=share
Thank you for posting! Here is an excerpt from the decision when science still existed:
ONA's well-regarded expert witnesses, including Toronto infection control expert Dr. Michael Gardam, Quebec epidemiologist Dr. Gaston De Serres, and Dr. Lisa Brosseau, an American expert on masks, testified that there was insufficient evidence to support the St. Michael's policy and no evidence that forcing healthy nurses to wear masks during the influenza season did anything to prevent transmission of influenza in hospitals. They further testified that nurses who have no symptoms are unlikely to be a real source of transmission and that it was not logical to force healthy unvaccinated nurses to mask. Arbitrator Kaplan accepted this expert evidence. In contrast, he noted the only fair words to describe the hospital's evidence in support of masking are "insufficient, inadequate and completely unpersuasive."
He also agreed with ONA that there was little evidence of any positive impact on patient care outcomes as a result of the VOM policy. Both prior to and after introducing the policy, hospitals continued to experience outbreaks of influenza. He concluded the evidence supported that masks "do not prevent the transmission of the influenza virus."
Thank for posting. Sharing it right now. Amazing how the 'science' changed in less than 2 years.
A news report says the CEO and prior President of this nursing association flipped 180 degrees last year to support mandatory masking and vaccinations for all health-care workers for COVID-19. They allegedly opposed the opposers. Suggest asking them what the real reason(s) were for changing positions.
https://www.newmarkettoday.ca/local-news/ontario-nurses-union-calls-for-mandatory-vaccinations-for-all-health-care-workers-3980322
Symbols of submission and fear is a key to tyranny. They began the process of putting this into place in 2012, and likely well before that.