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My buddy was in palliative care. 85 pounds. He had been on a transplant list but fell below the weight required. But they forgot to take his name off the list. A liver came up, he was next. He was whisked to Vancouver General. The surgeon was legally required to put the liver in him. So he did. He flatlined. Ten minutes of CPR. They paddled him. They were ready to call it and Boompa boompa boompa. A steady heart beat. They checked his liver function. Nothing. They checked it again. Full function. When he woke up they told him he would be in critical care for a month, then GF Strong rehab for 3-6 months. He was home in ten days. It was wild. The doctor told us ‘you know that last minute CPR stuff younsee on TV? It never works. We go through the motions so we can say we did everything. But, it worked!’ This was six years ago. Still going strong.

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The article is pretty decent about the ethics of using CPR on older dying patients, but it unwittingly describes the deadly procedure they were using for COV-19. How they were destroying patients lungs and kidneys using Remdesivir, while not using other safe stuff that actually worked. Then blaming it on Covid for cover. And btw, CPR is sure in the news these days- wonder why?

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I was horrified the first time I had to perform cpr on a patient. In EMT school they neglected to mention that you are literally crushing the person while trying to save them. I will never forget the feeling of the person’s bones cracking under my hands as I did the compressions. Made me sick to my stomach.

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We were taught cpr for work. No one ever said it wouldn’t work or mentioned the damage it can do. Good grief!

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I think it is the fact that without it, 100% of those who would have received it would be dead. As they are dead anyway, the damage done is worth it for the chance of survival and the few who survive are a big win.

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The only time I did cpr was for my best friend February 2022 and he revived. I wish I could do that again to bring him back here. 😞💔

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Aug 6, 2023·edited Aug 6, 2023

Patients whose heart stops beating: 85% of those receiving CPR die. Or, put differently, 15% survive. What is the survival rate for those who don't receive CPR? My educated guess is 0%.

If only we could discern who the 15% are at the time...

PS Giving CPR on a sprung mattress (as per the photo) is probably a big mistake at any time.

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This is the first time I've heard the negative side of CPR. Wonder why this has been hidden away? So how should people rescue those whose heart stops?

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I find that hospitals are now discussing DNR scenarios with patients’ families and it’s an incredibly difficult subject to grasp. A doctor told me it would be a “disservice” to resuscitate my 92 year old mother as the chances of a full recovery were slim. BTW she has no heart issues other than high blood pressure. Her mind is as sharp as a tack too. It was hard to hear them talk like that even it was a remote chance.

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Very important article - thank you so much for sharing Dr. A! You're the best!

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I've taken several CFP classes to do employer requirements First, not one instructor reported the real problems; second, the CPR dummies were not pressed hard. At that time, we did 15:2, compressions to two breaths. Fast forward to Jan 6 tapes. Tapes showed the guys beating the crap out of Boyland's chest. The way the guys were acting, the application appeared normal. Right then I knew what I learned either changed or Boyland was the real situation. Then this report nicely sets the tone, Paul. Boyland died, heart attack, suspect the pepper balls initiated a prior health issue, but not sure at this time.

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Must be last resort.

Not as good or effective as paddles.

Life is always a crap shoot.

Two things are certain , death and taxes .

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It saved my father's life more than once.

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I wouldn’t be alive today if my son didn’t perform CPR on me while waiting for EMS.

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Yeah. Don’t ever try to save someone’s life. Not worth the effort! (Sarcasm alert)

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Aug 6, 2023·edited Aug 6, 2023

It seems that CPR improves survival chances compared to not doing CPR. But women receive it less often than men. Sometimes it's not realized that the woman needs CPR. Also, people think women are frail and fear harming them. But, another big reason is fear of feminist nutjobs. Men fear they could save the life of a feminist and, even worse, that the feminist will repay them for saving their life by accusing them of sexual assault for touching their chest during compressions and putting their lips on their mouth without prior consent etc. If men know for sure that the woman in distress is a feminist then some will think "F-ck her! Let her resuscitate herself or she can wait for a feminist to come along and resuscitate her!"

Women less likely to get CPR and survive a cardiac arrest

https://www.scimex.org/newsfeed/women-less-likely-to-get-cpr-and-survive-a-cardiac-arrest

WHY WOMEN ARE LESS LIKELY TO RECEIVE CPR DURING A SUDDEN CARDIAC ARREST EMERGENCY

https://emergencycare.hsi.com/blog/women-are-less-likely-to-receive-help-during-a-cardiac-arrest-emergency#:~:text=According%20to%20a%20study%20published,to%20only%2039%25%20of%20women.

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