This has gotten out of hand! Dr. Robert Malone now sues the Breggins (Dr. Peter Breggin) for $25 Million; the Complaint that is filed in court focuses on scientific & public political disagreements
This has gotten out of hand! Dr. Robert Malone now sues the Breggins (Dr. Peter Breggin) for $25 Million; the Complaint that is filed in court focuses on scientific & public political disagreements
The fundaments surround the Breggin's criticism of Malone's concept of mass formation psychosis; why would this lawsuit be brought? Over this? I must be dreaming; we should be united!
The litigation notwithstanding (not going to editorialize on its relative merits or objectives here), the Breggins wrote a scathing hit piece on Mattias Desmet, alleging he is a "Trojan Horse" and was really just blaming the victims in his mass formation hypothesis. I considered their attack (which both directly & by inference included Dr. Malone) over the top and unfounded to say the most. Reasonable minds may disagree, here and anywhere else for that matter, but I do know that Mattias endeavored to open a dialogue with the Breggins, reaching out tho them several times he has indicated, but received no reply, just crickets. This suit may ultimately serve a useful purpose, some have suggested the Breggins were coerced into issuing their poison pen missive. I obviously am not privy to the truth behind any of that but would like to see all parties endeavor to find some middle ground as the division of those fighting for what is right can only aid & abet the other side, which we certainly do not need :o
"I [Mattias Desmet] reached out to Peter Breggin and his wife immediately after their review was published, proposing to have a constructive public or private conversation about their review. It is about two months later now, and it seems that they refuse to accept my invitation. That’s why I will respond here."
The history of the Breggins couple doesn't seem to square with what's been said--or, just as importantly, NOT said--by them regarding Desmet's reaction to their comments and their lack of a response to an invitation to discuss his mass formation proposition. Is it just me or has the level of the use of ad hominem by the couple (when they do talk) risen quite a bit lately? I find this whole matter as confounding as I do disturbing. This isn't the sort of distraction that I would have expected from people of this caliber.
I get it but suing? We need to stop this this use. The Alex Jones and the Sandy Hook case verdict is chilling. That it was a disgusting position is true. That he should be sued for slander fine but the amount? And where does it end? I heard the JFK conspiracies and thought they were kooky. I just watched a documentary that has me rethinking. If we follow this I sue you mentality, important questions will be shut down. A famous jurist said the solution is more speech not less. Show the Breggins to be hustlers or whatever but don’t use court to defend your reputation. And while I admire the mass psychosis theory I tend to believe Breggins is correct
The crooked court system, directed by the Deep State, want all dissenting opinions shut down. Hence, the huge dollar amount in the Alex Jones case. They want to deplatform us, and if they can't do that, they want to bankrupt us.
Just wait until they introduce a digital currency.
Given more thought, Malone could have sued for a dollar. That has been done before to make a point. The amount is just vicious. I have really enjoyed Malone’s work but it seems to have evolved into an HGTV type personality. I am wondering if a lifestyle magazine is coming out.
Ultimately the real change has to come from those with nothing left to lose. Probably the same with intellectuals with integrity & solid upbringing in other repressive regimes: eventually their voice of clarity recedes to the background as the weight & reverb from the state apparatus is just too enormous to not be ground to grist. Even Newsom's reign of terror has run roughshod over the swanky fundraising dinners to raise awareness & unity in Malone's hometown.
With all due respect Elizabeth, Mass Formation is NOT about mass psychosis (even though Malone has himself used that terminology, unfortunately...), more a matter of mass hypnosis, very different phenomenon obviously and not at all in the realm of psychopathology. Having read Arendt, LeBon, and Desmet's work in this area I cannot dismiss Desmet's central thesis, covered in detail in his book The Psychology of Totalitarianism, nor dismiss the use of it as a very well defined set of steps with equally well defined objectives in the recent Covid psy-op. Again, we here are approaching this all in a calm, rational and reasoned manner, thank goodness!
I read a person’s synopsis of their protest of the Ivey league college where Fauci just spoke. After the gathering, the protester was able to ask many student children graduating several questions. A couple of them: Do you believe everything he just told you. The answers were always no. Next question: Then why did you not protest his speech or boo it. (I am paraphrasing a tiny bit). In any event, the answers were always the same: I did not want to make a ruckus; or, I did not want to make a scene. Extremely telling.
The issue isn't the reality of mass formation, and I think this is causing a lot of confusion. Mass formation is real.
The issue is: was mass formation during Covid spontaneous or induced? Answer: it was 100% induced. It was planned and orchestrated. We didn't become fearful because we all succumbed to a mass formation; we became fearful because a mass formation was deliberately, consciously imposed on us and part of this was 24/7 news coverage of Covid.
Please read what Breggin says about this dispute. It's very illuminating.
Of course it's real and 100% planned/orchestrated. That is the point. There is/was nothing accidental about it, and that is exactly what Mattias Desmet has asserted all along. Totalitarianism doesn't just happen, and there is nothing remotely "blame the victim" about it either. The group fixation, though, establishes the necessary pretext for all that follows. History provides numerous examples, the last ~3 years are simply the latest and most widespread example having been a global phenomenon which was really never possible until now.
As I've said before, you need to read what Breggin says about this and then Desmet's defense. Desmet's own words support what Breggin says.
Desmet does NOT believe this was orchestrated. Read what he says! He believes that the elite simply took advantage of the mass formation which they themselves had succumbed to.
He specifically says there was no conspiracy. Read what he says in his defense!
For God's sake, it's right there in front of us. Read what these men say.
Desmet is saying that the psychological mechanism isn't accidental; in this he's correct, of course. But the inducement of the psychological mechanism, the deliberate triggering of the fear formation during Covid, was not accidental at all.
So, bait and switch: the mechanism isn't accidental but the actual formation is. Sometimes, yes. But decidedly not during Covid.
This isn't garden-variety totalitarianism we're facing.
Malone isn't stupid. He knows this. Then why is he doing what he's doing? What exactly is his motivation? Is he at heart, like his buddy Langan, actually a eugenicist, and does he believe it's necessary for some deception in order to lead the stupid masses to the correct decisions? And does he believe that dissent must be wiped out in order to accomplish this?
I agree that it is interesting and part of what we experienced is beyond Desmet’s theory because it has gone on so long. I assume it is a hybrid of sorts and it is evolving. I watched an interview with Douglas Murray that had a great quote from a Soviet expat living in Israel saying how in the Soviet system a
Good citizen was thinking reading and saying what you were supposed to say knowing it was all a lie. https://youtu.be/lp4XhZytdD0 But even this doesn’t describe what has happened. I think the meta universe that we have all been living has morphed us into something else. I just wish different voices would come together on a panel and hash it out. We need to evolve learning not devolve it.
I agree wholeheartedly with this conclusion ("We need to evolve learning not devolve it.") but my takeaway from the Breggins' interpretation of Desmet's proposition (some call it a hypothesis or a theory--I think not, given how his The Psychology of Totalitarianism was written) wasn't as clear-cut as I wished it could have been. There was a bit too much "mind-reading" by the Breggins--which is precisely why we would have benefited from an engagement between one or both of the Breggins and Desmet. Sadly, we cannot expect that (ergo, the "We need to evolve learning not devolve it." may be illusory). And the reality that the tyrants leading the rush to totalitarianism don't believe their own narratives surely is eye-opening. This https://youtu.be/lp4XhZytdD0 Douglas Murray video says that and so much more (thanks for reminding us of that memorable Hoover Institution interview!). Is it possible that the metaverse phenomenon may be just humanity's latest Guttenberg press, radio and television, or newest electronic metamorphous and nothing more? Or has humanity changed fundamentally?
(Elizabeth, on JFK if you're looking for a good listen and don't have Audible, sign up for a free month and add this as your free book. The narrator does a good job and the author Talbot covers enough to credibly point fingers. https://www.amazon.com/The-Devils-Chessboard-audiobook/dp/B00YFQKH9Y/ One of my favorites, The Devil's Chessboard!)
Thank you I will watch. Pre Covid I thought all the conspiracy theories were over the top. Ironically the media education foundation videos I watched on NAFTA started my awakening. I say ironic as Chomsky was associated and well we know where he would have put many of us. Professor Mark Miller has also been eye opening. I don’t agree with some things but much I do.
I agree Alan. I read Mattias article to try to open a dialogue with the Breggins and they never responded. They did attack him several times in their columns, although I don't remember exacly how many times. Dr. Malone, I don't know what to make of him, I think he is really pained by what he perceives are attacks on him. I think he is a very smart, sensitive person and would like to be the leader of the resistance because he knows the Mrna science better than anybody, and he tries to elevate himself, rightly so, as he has been attacked so much by MSM.
Having said that, both sides have to want to talk and talk about their differences. We don't need this fighting between obviously 2 very committed sides for medical freedom.
P.S. I also remember a couple of subscribers to Malone's substack tried to intervene with the Breggins to talk but I don't know what happened there.
Roxanne I think you have absolutely and correctly identified a main aspect of what all this has become for Dr. Malone. He did not initially intend to become a lightning rod for so much acrimony, nor anticipate himself being attacked, pilloried, disparaged, etc as he has been. He truly is a sensitive and failrly simple guy, a farmer as he often points out, though he is clearly a man of very high intelligence and high integrity to go along with it.. We need to really do our best as ordinary folks participating in these substack fora to help bridge the gaps that have in many cases become chasms of division. None of us is perfect nor do any of us have all the answers. But I fervently believe there is an unstoppable force that is generated when we as a group unite around the cause of preserving & protecting humanity, if we don't do that no one else is going to, and the result is too dark to contemplate imho.
Yes, Alan. I believe we are unstoppable and need to bring unity in a mature way. All of us, no matter what we think of the Breggins or of Malone. We have to bring them together and join forces and use that energy against the real enemy of the people.
I wonder how the Malones will be celebrating the one year anniversary of Dr. Malone's mention of "mass formation psychosis" on the Joe Rogan Show this coming December 21.
I second Martha's thank you. I too was disturbed by the Breggins' attack on Desmet and tuned them out completely at that point. It is of concern that Malone is taken to task for his filing suit (and its labeling as an 'attack on the Breggins'), yet there was no such outcry against the Breggins' attack on Desmet. Yes, the infighting bothers me, but I understand people have their loyalties on both sides. It's mostly more noise for me and - like many others - I have my own opinion but will not allow either of these efforts on the part of the Breggins or Malone to deter me from the central issues.
I also wondered if the Breggins didn't like all the attention being focused on new faces like Malone and Desmet, so they leveled an attack. I'm sorry, but the Breggins should have reached out to Dr. Malone before attacking. It seems as if they were lashing out because someone was encroaching on their 'turf'. The Breggins are definitely emotionally charged people - Dr. Malone is a measured, thoughtful man. I hope they can reach an amicable conclusion to this.
Breggins' attack were words. Malone's attack is financial ruin.
Desmet is essentially an apologist for the conspiracy during Covid-19; he openly states there was no conspiracy but only a hypnosis-inducing "ideology" and he explains how this mass formation by ideology can mechanistically appear to be a conspiracy. And where exactly did this ideology come from? Who has an ideology of technocratic superiority wherein we'll all own nothing and be happy for what we're given/allowed by the people who DO own everything? Who wants to "build back better" and would be happy to see the world on its knees first so that we can then build back our vision from the destruction? Who wants a world modeled on the social credit system of the Chinese? Who is promoting this ideology and defending all challenges to it? Who is censoring opposition views and opposition doctors and making some of them submit to psychological exams for their views (Dr. Nass)?
Desmet's views are full of holes. For him, the JFK assassination was simply an accident and 9-11 was of course just a terrorist attack: just as the media tells us. Covid was an accident that happened. No one orchestrated it. No one controlled the message and deliberately stifled rational debate so we'd all succumb to the dominant fear-inducing, mass formation messages relayed to us 24/7 during High Covid.
What is unrestricted warfare? One subverts the enemy not through guns, necessarily, but through ideology and propaganda. Books and papers have been written on this. One can create mass formations. Yes or no?
Do we really believe that people who want power and control have no idea about how to use psychological operations to control populations and even whole nations? For Desmet, no; this is merely "ideology." No blame. This is what Malone wants us to believe as well. Truth, or deception?
Malone is showing his true colors. He might be Mr. Integrity but he's definitely not Mr. Decency.
FWIW I anticipate the litigation will bring about a dialogue, they will come to some kind of meeting of the minds, and it will be followed by a withdrawal of the lawsuit and statements from the parties involved . Everyone will move on imho. Not gonna argue any of this with you, I have no dog in this fight, only an interest in doing what we all can do together to prevent the Globalists and NWO Great Reset crowd from having their way with the world, they're not inclined to use KY or any similar lube either
I agree with you Alan. I felt the initial piece by the Breggins was seriously over the top. I understood why Malone felt it was an unprovoked attack on him - it seemed seriously out of place. The Breggins could have easily contacted Malone behind the scenes before leveling the attack. You must also remember that Dr. Malone has been attacked relentlessly since coming out against the vaccines - this was another arrow that hit him from a direction he did not expect. I think the lawsuit might be the best way to resolve this.
Agree. I agree that the right thing for a man of integrity to do would be to threaten an elderly couple with financial ruin and drag them into court because Breggin spoke his truth about the status of Desmet's psychological work on mass formation.
But wouldn't a man of integrity also break their kneecaps, too, just to make sure they know who has the real integrity? Why stop at financial ruin when you're Righteous?
It’s common knowledge that the vaccine mRNA technology is “based” on the original findings by Malone. You can learn this just by listening to Dr Malone himself (he reiterated it again just recently on RFKs CHD podcast with Dr Nass, Dr Lawrie, Jessica Rose and RFK Jr.). You will also notice that there is a reason why many of these esteemed scientists defer to Dr Malone’s expertise in interviews - he knows his field. You can call it ‘dark, insecure, rage’ all you want. The man is brilliant. I think we should be welcoming ‘new’ faces to this side of the fight versus attacking them for being ‘late’. If the Breggins have done nothing wrong, they have nothing to fear.
I am not naive to think that the law is applied fairly and equally - we have certainly been aware of this for many years now. But the Breggins have been used to saying whatever they want, for many years - without pushback. Now, that they are getting it, they resort to victim status. They took a chance and called Malone's bluff - they lost.
Malone previously threatened to sue NYT for defaming him, but gave them 30 days to retract their article. He has followed up on NYT's non-action with this case. In terms of social reach and the damage to Malone's reputation, the NYT is clearly the bigger fish.
Science is controversial. Desmet is a psychologist and Breggin is a psychiatrist, so there are bound to be some varied opinions. Malone is a loose canon who was never about treatment options or any other Covid patient considerations except to protect his scientific contribution and how it impacted the death of thousands. If his mRNA discovery had been safely used, we wouldn’t be talking about Desmet or Breggin and Malone would be getting a Nobel Prize in medicine.
I’ve been giving Malone the benefit of the doubt, but have been a bit put off listening to some of his interviews. Just seems more about promoting Malone instead of the “cause”.
I do want to be fair to Malone. Divide and conquer is the MO for the people “behind the curtain”. “They” love to sow seeds of doubt and division. So we don’t know whom or what to trust.
Well is dr. Breggin maybe over the target with the lobotomy theory? Malone must be an industry plant what you think? To me too connected. Is he not working on some mrna 'vaccine' himself as well? That was another surprise. And all the scripted interviews with the horses and how sad he is bahblah. 25 million are u kidding me?????????? I never listen to another word from malone. This is inexcusable!!!!!! This is what fauci does!!!
Could it be a distraction and when he gets his own he can then come out and say only mine is safe? Although i beleieve he took a couple of the ones he's so outspoken against?? I don't trust anyone that desires to change/alter/edit DNA, what God created. I believe there is a court case where ownership of dna was granted because they proved it is no longer the same, waaaay before covid.
Malone is delusional and a jerk. No more interviews/publicity for him. He needs to be tuned out. The world is on fire... people are being maimed and killed. The elites are trying to enslave us with health passports and forced injections.... and he is suing for his huge ego and personal gain!? Typical lib
Exactly. People are dying all over the world and Malone is making this all about himself. And now he pretends he is poor to the tune of $25K! He has tens of thousands of substack subscribers at $5/month. His substack alone rakes in somewhere between $50-90K PER MONTH! The Breggins have been doing this work for decades and I can promise you they are not making anywhere near what Malone has been raking in.
@Hazel: I often wonder why so many well meaning people result to insults & name calling. Isn’t that what has brought us to this unfortunate place in the first place. I suspect you haven’t followed Robert Malone all that closely. Otherwise I believe, if you’re a discerning person, you would sound a lot like Alan R. We’re all fallible people but most on this side of the fight seem to be reasonable & acting in earnest for the freedom of all people. To my shock and dismay, some very derogatory accusations have been launched at Dr. Malone WITHOUT the sharing of even a modicum of REAL evidence. It is a sad state of affairs & needs to stop.
You need only read carefully what Breggin says about Desmet, and then read Desmet's defense of himself written on his own substack, to realize that something is extremely weird about this.
Namely, it's beyond doubt that Breggin is correct: Desmet's own words betray him. This is obvious. Desmet knows it. Malone knows it. So why are they being so divisive about this and why is Malone suing Breggin?
I don't believe this is mere he said/she said and we should dismiss it as a spat. This is a very important and illuminating incident and it sheds light on "Who is Robert Malone."
Breggin is knowledgeable on lobotomies. I think this is a link. The mrnas doing or can do something to human brains...a lobotomy might be similar. I like to dig more into that direction now.
This makes me sick. The Breggins are good people and have served humanity on so many levels. Shame on Malone. If I recall correctly, the Breggins were suspicious of Malone's intentions, based on his background and professional ties. It was a valid concern, and unfortunately he is making the case. Thank you for shining the light on this, Dr. A.
I began following Malone at the same time I discovered many of those in the movement, including you Dr. A. When Dr. Malone began speaking out against the others I was truly perplexed as to his motives. We are living in bizarre times and nothing is as it appears. Something nefarious is going on here and you are one of the few who I believe is pure of heart. This story will get more complex and I fear it will not end well.
This is why so many have been suspicious of Malone. He’s weirdly coached-sounding and kind of on script always. They usually install a few leaders early and have them gain credibility early (mostly off other people’s backs), then they have them distract, misinform, divide, etc. Gotta watch this one closely.
Don’t worry about unity. They’re going to do this stuff; they always do. You’ll never perceive unity even if it exists. Just persevere in the truth and let the bodies fall where they may.
But yeah, this stuff is too much. If this theory were mainstreamed, imagine how the media would use it. Imagine how governments would use it. It could justify all manner of repression and censorship.
I don't view Malone as the enemy. But I do view him as akin to Alfred Nobel - he may be feeling some guilt over his role in all this, and that can make you do odd things. Not that I am justifying the odd things, mind you!
Shows off his assets, travels all around the world, takes interviews on yachts in the Mediterranean all while complaining how poor he is and charging $5/month to tens of thousands of substack subscribers who this he is the savior of the world. And now, claims to defamed to the tune of $25 million! He is delusional.
The Breggins are not guilty of any slander or defamation for merely expressing different opinions and viewpoints about "mass formation, or anything else; Malone's ego and self-righteousness have got the best of him and he is now acting like one of the very tyrants we are supposed to be fighting against; this is a very familiar tactic used to stifle informed dissent and freedom of speech and to distract from Malone's own lack of transparency.
I gave Malone the benefit of a doubt. But I believe he is dead wrong about Desmet. And his isn't only wrong about this lawsuit, but it shows us what a moral midget he really his despite all his talk of "integrity."
And he didn't even speak out until against the jabs until June 2021, six months after millions of people have already taken them. And he did so very mildly, only going so far as to say that pregnant women and "healthy children" should avoid them. Nothing he ever did or said made sense. I never understood why people trusted him.
Malone is suing Red Voice Media, Jane Ruby and Peter McCullough too, I think the jabs he took are now destroying his mind. People are saying he's always been on the wrong side and was a plant but I don't want to believe that. All he's doing with these law suits is showing he's a shallow person who lacks character. It's like a school yard bully,"if you call me out, I'm gonna destroy you" He has said some horrible things about the people he's suing and I'm shocked. I think this entire thing is because Desmond Matais said he wasn't the one who called it Mass Formation "psychosis" Malone added the term psychosis, and when he got called out by Breggin he lost his shit, he said he was embarrassed so now they must pay I guess. Whatever happens we must keep our distance from Malone, he's liable to sue anyone who disagrees with him. My mind is blown.
Agree on the mind being blown part. I'd trusted Malone and gave him the benefit of a doubt. Now, I think he's either a complete jerk or he's the opposition, planted to create opposition within the opposition. It's a beautiful tactic, really: build up your followers and then kill off those who disagree with your version of events, which very conveniently tends toward dismissing the conspiracy while ostensibly asserting the conspiracy (this is the thrust of Desmet's work even though he wants to pretend otherwise.) And of course you're doing this for the greater good because as his buddy Langan says, people are really too stupid to make decisions for themselves (thus have to be [mis] led. Apparently this is what Malone believes.
Yes. Same. Mind officially blown! First I heard of this kafuffle was from Dr. Malone's own Substack post at the beginning of September where he admitted to calling the Breggins and then hanging up on them. Without this post, many of us would probably never been the wiser re this academic disagreement.
Prior to this, I'd had no reason to take him (Malone) at anything other than face value; but something about that September post did not sit right. Still I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Went to Dr. Breggin's website and read his side. I have to admit, the Breggins' arguments and logic made sense, and something about Desmet protecting an alleged serial killer (as covered later in court filing) was disturbing. Still gave him (Malone) the benefit of the doubt.
However, coming on today and reading about a $25 million lawsuit turned my opinion. Now my BS meter is fully engaged. Is this just ego or something worse? As bad as it is, I hold hope that it is just ego.
I hold hope that Malone comes to his senses and stops this nonsense. If this suit goes forward, it will chill free speech among those opposition doctors who have put their careers and everything else on the line to stand up for real people, who have very little power or voice, whose lives and health have been destroyed by the COVID response and vaccination.
Very interesting that Malone in that substack (https://tinyurl.com/5ac5tv3t) states: "My objective is to help you, the reader, better understand how this works, and what you can do to 'immunize' yourself from the power of false narratives."
This is exactly the language being passed around now by the MSM in regard to "misinformation"!
Further: "Just to make the point, if anyone is deflecting blame here, it would be those who seek to blame “Global Predators” for what has occurred over the last three years, thereby deflecting blame from the members of the US Administrative state (such as Tony Fauci, Francis Collins, Peter Daszak, Deborah Birx, Janet Woodcock, Peter Marks, etc, etc, etc). " Notice how Global Predators is put in scare quotes. We're to focus on those taking orders, right, instead of those who gave the orders? Fauci, Collins, etc, were working for someone other than the American people.
Malone: there were no predators. There was just an administrative state gone haywire. Get over it. As for Breggin: you get your kneecaps broken as a message to anyone else wanting to spread misinformation.
Thank you, Dr. Malone, for showing us what you're really made of. You had me fooled.
Yes, I agree! This does not add up. Very strange behavior.
However, it is interesting, when you read Dr McCullough’s or Dr A’s or Dr Kory’s or Dr Kheirity’s posts, they are mourning and grieving and fighting against the tragic loss and damage that has been done to real, and mostly powerless, people. I don’t follow the Breggins re COVID-19, but I read their book on Prozac years ago and I’ve followed their other work on behalf of the mentally ill, and again they have always fought for the underdog. I don’t get this same passion for suffering humans from Dr Malone. Not that he doesn’t care, but his posts are more about himself.
The litigation notwithstanding (not going to editorialize on its relative merits or objectives here), the Breggins wrote a scathing hit piece on Mattias Desmet, alleging he is a "Trojan Horse" and was really just blaming the victims in his mass formation hypothesis. I considered their attack (which both directly & by inference included Dr. Malone) over the top and unfounded to say the most. Reasonable minds may disagree, here and anywhere else for that matter, but I do know that Mattias endeavored to open a dialogue with the Breggins, reaching out tho them several times he has indicated, but received no reply, just crickets. This suit may ultimately serve a useful purpose, some have suggested the Breggins were coerced into issuing their poison pen missive. I obviously am not privy to the truth behind any of that but would like to see all parties endeavor to find some middle ground as the division of those fighting for what is right can only aid & abet the other side, which we certainly do not need :o
"I [Mattias Desmet] reached out to Peter Breggin and his wife immediately after their review was published, proposing to have a constructive public or private conversation about their review. It is about two months later now, and it seems that they refuse to accept my invitation. That’s why I will respond here."
Source: https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/is-mattias-desmet-an-expert-in-mass
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Alan ~ Thank you for a factual, unbiased, and unemotional comment!
Thank you Martha!!!
The history of the Breggins couple doesn't seem to square with what's been said--or, just as importantly, NOT said--by them regarding Desmet's reaction to their comments and their lack of a response to an invitation to discuss his mass formation proposition. Is it just me or has the level of the use of ad hominem by the couple (when they do talk) risen quite a bit lately? I find this whole matter as confounding as I do disturbing. This isn't the sort of distraction that I would have expected from people of this caliber.
I get it but suing? We need to stop this this use. The Alex Jones and the Sandy Hook case verdict is chilling. That it was a disgusting position is true. That he should be sued for slander fine but the amount? And where does it end? I heard the JFK conspiracies and thought they were kooky. I just watched a documentary that has me rethinking. If we follow this I sue you mentality, important questions will be shut down. A famous jurist said the solution is more speech not less. Show the Breggins to be hustlers or whatever but don’t use court to defend your reputation. And while I admire the mass psychosis theory I tend to believe Breggins is correct
The crooked court system, directed by the Deep State, want all dissenting opinions shut down. Hence, the huge dollar amount in the Alex Jones case. They want to deplatform us, and if they can't do that, they want to bankrupt us.
Just wait until they introduce a digital currency.
China's social credit score coming our way.
Given more thought, Malone could have sued for a dollar. That has been done before to make a point. The amount is just vicious. I have really enjoyed Malone’s work but it seems to have evolved into an HGTV type personality. I am wondering if a lifestyle magazine is coming out.
I just unsubbed from Malone.. no class.. and don't care what else he has to say
I was always suspect of him because of his DARPA and DoD involvement.
Ultimately the real change has to come from those with nothing left to lose. Probably the same with intellectuals with integrity & solid upbringing in other repressive regimes: eventually their voice of clarity recedes to the background as the weight & reverb from the state apparatus is just too enormous to not be ground to grist. Even Newsom's reign of terror has run roughshod over the swanky fundraising dinners to raise awareness & unity in Malone's hometown.
Hah caught my phone typo shut became sh$&. Perhaps my phone is more accurate
With all due respect Elizabeth, Mass Formation is NOT about mass psychosis (even though Malone has himself used that terminology, unfortunately...), more a matter of mass hypnosis, very different phenomenon obviously and not at all in the realm of psychopathology. Having read Arendt, LeBon, and Desmet's work in this area I cannot dismiss Desmet's central thesis, covered in detail in his book The Psychology of Totalitarianism, nor dismiss the use of it as a very well defined set of steps with equally well defined objectives in the recent Covid psy-op. Again, we here are approaching this all in a calm, rational and reasoned manner, thank goodness!
I read a person’s synopsis of their protest of the Ivey league college where Fauci just spoke. After the gathering, the protester was able to ask many student children graduating several questions. A couple of them: Do you believe everything he just told you. The answers were always no. Next question: Then why did you not protest his speech or boo it. (I am paraphrasing a tiny bit). In any event, the answers were always the same: I did not want to make a ruckus; or, I did not want to make a scene. Extremely telling.
Yet, had a proLife speaker been featured I know their outcry would have been both thunderous and government approved.
I doubt A pro life speaker would have been able to speak at ivy league school
True. Sophisticated Abortionphiles hate Free Speech only a tad less than they do the Preborn Human Child.
The issue isn't the reality of mass formation, and I think this is causing a lot of confusion. Mass formation is real.
The issue is: was mass formation during Covid spontaneous or induced? Answer: it was 100% induced. It was planned and orchestrated. We didn't become fearful because we all succumbed to a mass formation; we became fearful because a mass formation was deliberately, consciously imposed on us and part of this was 24/7 news coverage of Covid.
Please read what Breggin says about this dispute. It's very illuminating.
100% agree. I am still in Total disbelief of HOW it was able to occur in our country, esp. after the reign of Hitler.
Children (high school) are no longer learning about this.
Today’s China, nor today’s Brazil are being discussed with in the “current events classes at schools.
There are no Current Events classes anymore. Should probably demand these classes come back to the classroom.
Of course it's real and 100% planned/orchestrated. That is the point. There is/was nothing accidental about it, and that is exactly what Mattias Desmet has asserted all along. Totalitarianism doesn't just happen, and there is nothing remotely "blame the victim" about it either. The group fixation, though, establishes the necessary pretext for all that follows. History provides numerous examples, the last ~3 years are simply the latest and most widespread example having been a global phenomenon which was really never possible until now.
As I've said before, you need to read what Breggin says about this and then Desmet's defense. Desmet's own words support what Breggin says.
Desmet does NOT believe this was orchestrated. Read what he says! He believes that the elite simply took advantage of the mass formation which they themselves had succumbed to.
He specifically says there was no conspiracy. Read what he says in his defense!
For God's sake, it's right there in front of us. Read what these men say.
Desmet is saying that the psychological mechanism isn't accidental; in this he's correct, of course. But the inducement of the psychological mechanism, the deliberate triggering of the fear formation during Covid, was not accidental at all.
So, bait and switch: the mechanism isn't accidental but the actual formation is. Sometimes, yes. But decidedly not during Covid.
This isn't garden-variety totalitarianism we're facing.
Malone isn't stupid. He knows this. Then why is he doing what he's doing? What exactly is his motivation? Is he at heart, like his buddy Langan, actually a eugenicist, and does he believe it's necessary for some deception in order to lead the stupid masses to the correct decisions? And does he believe that dissent must be wiped out in order to accomplish this?
Who is Robert Malone.
I agree that it is interesting and part of what we experienced is beyond Desmet’s theory because it has gone on so long. I assume it is a hybrid of sorts and it is evolving. I watched an interview with Douglas Murray that had a great quote from a Soviet expat living in Israel saying how in the Soviet system a
Good citizen was thinking reading and saying what you were supposed to say knowing it was all a lie. https://youtu.be/lp4XhZytdD0 But even this doesn’t describe what has happened. I think the meta universe that we have all been living has morphed us into something else. I just wish different voices would come together on a panel and hash it out. We need to evolve learning not devolve it.
I agree wholeheartedly with this conclusion ("We need to evolve learning not devolve it.") but my takeaway from the Breggins' interpretation of Desmet's proposition (some call it a hypothesis or a theory--I think not, given how his The Psychology of Totalitarianism was written) wasn't as clear-cut as I wished it could have been. There was a bit too much "mind-reading" by the Breggins--which is precisely why we would have benefited from an engagement between one or both of the Breggins and Desmet. Sadly, we cannot expect that (ergo, the "We need to evolve learning not devolve it." may be illusory). And the reality that the tyrants leading the rush to totalitarianism don't believe their own narratives surely is eye-opening. This https://youtu.be/lp4XhZytdD0 Douglas Murray video says that and so much more (thanks for reminding us of that memorable Hoover Institution interview!). Is it possible that the metaverse phenomenon may be just humanity's latest Guttenberg press, radio and television, or newest electronic metamorphous and nothing more? Or has humanity changed fundamentally?
really well said Elizabeth
Mass Hypnosis 😳 Now I have to worry about that too?
Agree 100%
Me too! Malone is the 🚨
(Elizabeth, on JFK if you're looking for a good listen and don't have Audible, sign up for a free month and add this as your free book. The narrator does a good job and the author Talbot covers enough to credibly point fingers. https://www.amazon.com/The-Devils-Chessboard-audiobook/dp/B00YFQKH9Y/ One of my favorites, The Devil's Chessboard!)
Thank you I will watch. Pre Covid I thought all the conspiracy theories were over the top. Ironically the media education foundation videos I watched on NAFTA started my awakening. I say ironic as Chomsky was associated and well we know where he would have put many of us. Professor Mark Miller has also been eye opening. I don’t agree with some things but much I do.
I agree Alan. I read Mattias article to try to open a dialogue with the Breggins and they never responded. They did attack him several times in their columns, although I don't remember exacly how many times. Dr. Malone, I don't know what to make of him, I think he is really pained by what he perceives are attacks on him. I think he is a very smart, sensitive person and would like to be the leader of the resistance because he knows the Mrna science better than anybody, and he tries to elevate himself, rightly so, as he has been attacked so much by MSM.
Having said that, both sides have to want to talk and talk about their differences. We don't need this fighting between obviously 2 very committed sides for medical freedom.
P.S. I also remember a couple of subscribers to Malone's substack tried to intervene with the Breggins to talk but I don't know what happened there.
Roxanne I think you have absolutely and correctly identified a main aspect of what all this has become for Dr. Malone. He did not initially intend to become a lightning rod for so much acrimony, nor anticipate himself being attacked, pilloried, disparaged, etc as he has been. He truly is a sensitive and failrly simple guy, a farmer as he often points out, though he is clearly a man of very high intelligence and high integrity to go along with it.. We need to really do our best as ordinary folks participating in these substack fora to help bridge the gaps that have in many cases become chasms of division. None of us is perfect nor do any of us have all the answers. But I fervently believe there is an unstoppable force that is generated when we as a group unite around the cause of preserving & protecting humanity, if we don't do that no one else is going to, and the result is too dark to contemplate imho.
Yes, Alan. I believe we are unstoppable and need to bring unity in a mature way. All of us, no matter what we think of the Breggins or of Malone. We have to bring them together and join forces and use that energy against the real enemy of the people.
I wonder how the Malones will be celebrating the one year anniversary of Dr. Malone's mention of "mass formation psychosis" on the Joe Rogan Show this coming December 21.
Malone wants da money n name to fame .. pride goes before a fall.. and a haughty spirit before destruction..
I don't trust Malone as being so hurt as he 🎻
I second Martha's thank you. I too was disturbed by the Breggins' attack on Desmet and tuned them out completely at that point. It is of concern that Malone is taken to task for his filing suit (and its labeling as an 'attack on the Breggins'), yet there was no such outcry against the Breggins' attack on Desmet. Yes, the infighting bothers me, but I understand people have their loyalties on both sides. It's mostly more noise for me and - like many others - I have my own opinion but will not allow either of these efforts on the part of the Breggins or Malone to deter me from the central issues.
I also wondered if the Breggins didn't like all the attention being focused on new faces like Malone and Desmet, so they leveled an attack. I'm sorry, but the Breggins should have reached out to Dr. Malone before attacking. It seems as if they were lashing out because someone was encroaching on their 'turf'. The Breggins are definitely emotionally charged people - Dr. Malone is a measured, thoughtful man. I hope they can reach an amicable conclusion to this.
Breggins' attack were words. Malone's attack is financial ruin.
Desmet is essentially an apologist for the conspiracy during Covid-19; he openly states there was no conspiracy but only a hypnosis-inducing "ideology" and he explains how this mass formation by ideology can mechanistically appear to be a conspiracy. And where exactly did this ideology come from? Who has an ideology of technocratic superiority wherein we'll all own nothing and be happy for what we're given/allowed by the people who DO own everything? Who wants to "build back better" and would be happy to see the world on its knees first so that we can then build back our vision from the destruction? Who wants a world modeled on the social credit system of the Chinese? Who is promoting this ideology and defending all challenges to it? Who is censoring opposition views and opposition doctors and making some of them submit to psychological exams for their views (Dr. Nass)?
Desmet's views are full of holes. For him, the JFK assassination was simply an accident and 9-11 was of course just a terrorist attack: just as the media tells us. Covid was an accident that happened. No one orchestrated it. No one controlled the message and deliberately stifled rational debate so we'd all succumb to the dominant fear-inducing, mass formation messages relayed to us 24/7 during High Covid.
What is unrestricted warfare? One subverts the enemy not through guns, necessarily, but through ideology and propaganda. Books and papers have been written on this. One can create mass formations. Yes or no?
Do we really believe that people who want power and control have no idea about how to use psychological operations to control populations and even whole nations? For Desmet, no; this is merely "ideology." No blame. This is what Malone wants us to believe as well. Truth, or deception?
Malone is showing his true colors. He might be Mr. Integrity but he's definitely not Mr. Decency.
FWIW I anticipate the litigation will bring about a dialogue, they will come to some kind of meeting of the minds, and it will be followed by a withdrawal of the lawsuit and statements from the parties involved . Everyone will move on imho. Not gonna argue any of this with you, I have no dog in this fight, only an interest in doing what we all can do together to prevent the Globalists and NWO Great Reset crowd from having their way with the world, they're not inclined to use KY or any similar lube either
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Thanks and amen my friend! :)
Great comment.
I agree with you Alan. I felt the initial piece by the Breggins was seriously over the top. I understood why Malone felt it was an unprovoked attack on him - it seemed seriously out of place. The Breggins could have easily contacted Malone behind the scenes before leveling the attack. You must also remember that Dr. Malone has been attacked relentlessly since coming out against the vaccines - this was another arrow that hit him from a direction he did not expect. I think the lawsuit might be the best way to resolve this.
Agree. I agree that the right thing for a man of integrity to do would be to threaten an elderly couple with financial ruin and drag them into court because Breggin spoke his truth about the status of Desmet's psychological work on mass formation.
But wouldn't a man of integrity also break their kneecaps, too, just to make sure they know who has the real integrity? Why stop at financial ruin when you're Righteous?
You lost me at 'his truth'. Did you mean his 'opinion'?
Exactly. Judas only went for 30 pieces of silver, after all.
Correcting history and medical fact is not an attack. It is Malone doing the attacking against everyone. An insecure man full or rage. Dark, and not the inventor of anything having to do with the current covid vaccine technology. https://www.szeretlekmagyarorszag.hu/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/kariko-katalin-pardi-norbert.jpg
It’s common knowledge that the vaccine mRNA technology is “based” on the original findings by Malone. You can learn this just by listening to Dr Malone himself (he reiterated it again just recently on RFKs CHD podcast with Dr Nass, Dr Lawrie, Jessica Rose and RFK Jr.). You will also notice that there is a reason why many of these esteemed scientists defer to Dr Malone’s expertise in interviews - he knows his field. You can call it ‘dark, insecure, rage’ all you want. The man is brilliant. I think we should be welcoming ‘new’ faces to this side of the fight versus attacking them for being ‘late’. If the Breggins have done nothing wrong, they have nothing to fear.
Your last sentence perfectly captures a delusional concept.
I am not naive to think that the law is applied fairly and equally - we have certainly been aware of this for many years now. But the Breggins have been used to saying whatever they want, for many years - without pushback. Now, that they are getting it, they resort to victim status. They took a chance and called Malone's bluff - they lost.
There's something called the First Amendment. Criticizing ideas is an opinion, not an attack on someone's character, right?
Malone's actions here are obscene.
He's a self important egomaniac.
Malone previously threatened to sue NYT for defaming him, but gave them 30 days to retract their article. He has followed up on NYT's non-action with this case. In terms of social reach and the damage to Malone's reputation, the NYT is clearly the bigger fish.
Science is controversial. Desmet is a psychologist and Breggin is a psychiatrist, so there are bound to be some varied opinions. Malone is a loose canon who was never about treatment options or any other Covid patient considerations except to protect his scientific contribution and how it impacted the death of thousands. If his mRNA discovery had been safely used, we wouldn’t be talking about Desmet or Breggin and Malone would be getting a Nobel Prize in medicine.
If you hate free speech, the suit definitely serves its purpose!
I’ve been giving Malone the benefit of the doubt, but have been a bit put off listening to some of his interviews. Just seems more about promoting Malone instead of the “cause”.
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I do want to be fair to Malone. Divide and conquer is the MO for the people “behind the curtain”. “They” love to sow seeds of doubt and division. So we don’t know whom or what to trust.
Well is dr. Breggin maybe over the target with the lobotomy theory? Malone must be an industry plant what you think? To me too connected. Is he not working on some mrna 'vaccine' himself as well? That was another surprise. And all the scripted interviews with the horses and how sad he is bahblah. 25 million are u kidding me?????????? I never listen to another word from malone. This is inexcusable!!!!!! This is what fauci does!!!
Yup thanks to dr A informing us I'm unsubbing Malone and never sharing anything he has to say.. no thanks!
Hopefully Malone won’t target anyone else! He is destructive and my question is it personal or something more nefarious?
Could it be a distraction and when he gets his own he can then come out and say only mine is safe? Although i beleieve he took a couple of the ones he's so outspoken against?? I don't trust anyone that desires to change/alter/edit DNA, what God created. I believe there is a court case where ownership of dna was granted because they proved it is no longer the same, waaaay before covid.
Malone is delusional and a jerk. No more interviews/publicity for him. He needs to be tuned out. The world is on fire... people are being maimed and killed. The elites are trying to enslave us with health passports and forced injections.... and he is suing for his huge ego and personal gain!? Typical lib
Exactly. People are dying all over the world and Malone is making this all about himself. And now he pretends he is poor to the tune of $25K! He has tens of thousands of substack subscribers at $5/month. His substack alone rakes in somewhere between $50-90K PER MONTH! The Breggins have been doing this work for decades and I can promise you they are not making anywhere near what Malone has been raking in.
Spot on.
No, you have that all wrong. The Breggins have to be put in their place. This is the message.
So onward to fight censorship and allow all opinions and voices to be heard, oh Fearless Leader! Just don't get on his wrong side, or else....
It doesn't matter if you're an elderly couple: no mercy will be shown to those who cross The Righteous Truth-Bearers.
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@Hazel: I often wonder why so many well meaning people result to insults & name calling. Isn’t that what has brought us to this unfortunate place in the first place. I suspect you haven’t followed Robert Malone all that closely. Otherwise I believe, if you’re a discerning person, you would sound a lot like Alan R. We’re all fallible people but most on this side of the fight seem to be reasonable & acting in earnest for the freedom of all people. To my shock and dismay, some very derogatory accusations have been launched at Dr. Malone WITHOUT the sharing of even a modicum of REAL evidence. It is a sad state of affairs & needs to stop.
You need only read carefully what Breggin says about Desmet, and then read Desmet's defense of himself written on his own substack, to realize that something is extremely weird about this.
Namely, it's beyond doubt that Breggin is correct: Desmet's own words betray him. This is obvious. Desmet knows it. Malone knows it. So why are they being so divisive about this and why is Malone suing Breggin?
I don't believe this is mere he said/she said and we should dismiss it as a spat. This is a very important and illuminating incident and it sheds light on "Who is Robert Malone."
Breggin is knowledgeable on lobotomies. I think this is a link. The mrnas doing or can do something to human brains...a lobotomy might be similar. I like to dig more into that direction now.
Exactly and what does malone worry about?
This makes me sick. The Breggins are good people and have served humanity on so many levels. Shame on Malone. If I recall correctly, the Breggins were suspicious of Malone's intentions, based on his background and professional ties. It was a valid concern, and unfortunately he is making the case. Thank you for shining the light on this, Dr. A.
You can leave the Deep State. But the Deep State doesn't leave you. There's no escape form this very special Hotel California.
Best comment.
I believe this is perfectly on point.
...and like the Mafia, you can never leave DARPA...alive.
I second, best comment.
Damn, I wish you could follow people like fb, Twitter. You see interesting folks, gone....
I began following Malone at the same time I discovered many of those in the movement, including you Dr. A. When Dr. Malone began speaking out against the others I was truly perplexed as to his motives. We are living in bizarre times and nothing is as it appears. Something nefarious is going on here and you are one of the few who I believe is pure of heart. This story will get more complex and I fear it will not end well.
This is why so many have been suspicious of Malone. He’s weirdly coached-sounding and kind of on script always. They usually install a few leaders early and have them gain credibility early (mostly off other people’s backs), then they have them distract, misinform, divide, etc. Gotta watch this one closely.
Don’t worry about unity. They’re going to do this stuff; they always do. You’ll never perceive unity even if it exists. Just persevere in the truth and let the bodies fall where they may.
But yeah, this stuff is too much. If this theory were mainstreamed, imagine how the media would use it. Imagine how governments would use it. It could justify all manner of repression and censorship.
We already have repression and censorship.
Don't worry about unity. Truth. Btw, contr. Opp have to say truth sometimes.
And the best of us make mistakes
There are controlled opp... ( I am not referring to anyone, I don't know who! But this happened to me before)
I’m shocked to read this. This should not be so! The Breggins are not an enemy. And $25 million? That’s insane!
But Dr. Malone is "the enemy"? IMHO, it seems that there is a definite campaign to denigrate the former and it makes me wonder why...
No, I don’t think Dr Malone is “the enemy” either. But suing someone who disagrees with you for $25 million starts to raise questions….
I don't view Malone as the enemy. But I do view him as akin to Alfred Nobel - he may be feeling some guilt over his role in all this, and that can make you do odd things. Not that I am justifying the odd things, mind you!
Malone's true colors are coming out.
Wondering if the good Dr. Malone raises Trojan Horses on his lovely farm?
I’m always suspicious of someone who shows off their assets because I believe it’s vulgar.
Shows off his assets, travels all around the world, takes interviews on yachts in the Mediterranean all while complaining how poor he is and charging $5/month to tens of thousands of substack subscribers who this he is the savior of the world. And now, claims to defamed to the tune of $25 million! He is delusional.
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The Breggins are not guilty of any slander or defamation for merely expressing different opinions and viewpoints about "mass formation, or anything else; Malone's ego and self-righteousness have got the best of him and he is now acting like one of the very tyrants we are supposed to be fighting against; this is a very familiar tactic used to stifle informed dissent and freedom of speech and to distract from Malone's own lack of transparency.
Exactly!!
Malone had a big ego as seen in this interview with Candace Owens. He came out late against jab after another dr publicly called him out
I wrote several articles on why Malone is NOT to be trusted.
This is just more proof that I am correct.
I gave Malone the benefit of a doubt. But I believe he is dead wrong about Desmet. And his isn't only wrong about this lawsuit, but it shows us what a moral midget he really his despite all his talk of "integrity."
No decent man would do this. Period.
Folks should go read and/or revisit those articles.
People are quite naive about these things- sad that they have placed faith in some that will betray that trust.
Do they think Mr. Malone came out of nowhere?
And he didn't even speak out until against the jabs until June 2021, six months after millions of people have already taken them. And he did so very mildly, only going so far as to say that pregnant women and "healthy children" should avoid them. Nothing he ever did or said made sense. I never understood why people trusted him.
I’m unsubscribing from Malone. Ego too big. May hurt his feelings.
I did as well, a while back.
I do not care for Malone nor trust him, just something about him from day one I did not trust.
It's in his eyes. (For me, anyway.)
And I really get annoyed by Malone’s near constant saying “um” when he speaks. Something very odd about that.
Trudeau does that too.
#TrudeaumustgoNOW 🆘️
No, in fact Trudeau uses “uh” not “un”
As a Canuck I have to listen to his ,uh, ego and phoney gravitas more than anyone should.
Malone is suing Red Voice Media, Jane Ruby and Peter McCullough too, I think the jabs he took are now destroying his mind. People are saying he's always been on the wrong side and was a plant but I don't want to believe that. All he's doing with these law suits is showing he's a shallow person who lacks character. It's like a school yard bully,"if you call me out, I'm gonna destroy you" He has said some horrible things about the people he's suing and I'm shocked. I think this entire thing is because Desmond Matais said he wasn't the one who called it Mass Formation "psychosis" Malone added the term psychosis, and when he got called out by Breggin he lost his shit, he said he was embarrassed so now they must pay I guess. Whatever happens we must keep our distance from Malone, he's liable to sue anyone who disagrees with him. My mind is blown.
Agree on the mind being blown part. I'd trusted Malone and gave him the benefit of a doubt. Now, I think he's either a complete jerk or he's the opposition, planted to create opposition within the opposition. It's a beautiful tactic, really: build up your followers and then kill off those who disagree with your version of events, which very conveniently tends toward dismissing the conspiracy while ostensibly asserting the conspiracy (this is the thrust of Desmet's work even though he wants to pretend otherwise.) And of course you're doing this for the greater good because as his buddy Langan says, people are really too stupid to make decisions for themselves (thus have to be [mis] led. Apparently this is what Malone believes.
Yes. Same. Mind officially blown! First I heard of this kafuffle was from Dr. Malone's own Substack post at the beginning of September where he admitted to calling the Breggins and then hanging up on them. Without this post, many of us would probably never been the wiser re this academic disagreement.
Prior to this, I'd had no reason to take him (Malone) at anything other than face value; but something about that September post did not sit right. Still I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Went to Dr. Breggin's website and read his side. I have to admit, the Breggins' arguments and logic made sense, and something about Desmet protecting an alleged serial killer (as covered later in court filing) was disturbing. Still gave him (Malone) the benefit of the doubt.
However, coming on today and reading about a $25 million lawsuit turned my opinion. Now my BS meter is fully engaged. Is this just ego or something worse? As bad as it is, I hold hope that it is just ego.
I hold hope that Malone comes to his senses and stops this nonsense. If this suit goes forward, it will chill free speech among those opposition doctors who have put their careers and everything else on the line to stand up for real people, who have very little power or voice, whose lives and health have been destroyed by the COVID response and vaccination.
I was wrong about Malone suing McCullough but this is what he did instead https://www.americaoutloud.com/dr-robert-malone-attacks-and-maligns-leading-freedom-fighters/
Very interesting that Malone in that substack (https://tinyurl.com/5ac5tv3t) states: "My objective is to help you, the reader, better understand how this works, and what you can do to 'immunize' yourself from the power of false narratives."
This is exactly the language being passed around now by the MSM in regard to "misinformation"!
Further: "Just to make the point, if anyone is deflecting blame here, it would be those who seek to blame “Global Predators” for what has occurred over the last three years, thereby deflecting blame from the members of the US Administrative state (such as Tony Fauci, Francis Collins, Peter Daszak, Deborah Birx, Janet Woodcock, Peter Marks, etc, etc, etc). " Notice how Global Predators is put in scare quotes. We're to focus on those taking orders, right, instead of those who gave the orders? Fauci, Collins, etc, were working for someone other than the American people.
Malone: there were no predators. There was just an administrative state gone haywire. Get over it. As for Breggin: you get your kneecaps broken as a message to anyone else wanting to spread misinformation.
Thank you, Dr. Malone, for showing us what you're really made of. You had me fooled.
McCullough too???
yes
That's pretty weird.
Yes, I agree! This does not add up. Very strange behavior.
However, it is interesting, when you read Dr McCullough’s or Dr A’s or Dr Kory’s or Dr Kheirity’s posts, they are mourning and grieving and fighting against the tragic loss and damage that has been done to real, and mostly powerless, people. I don’t follow the Breggins re COVID-19, but I read their book on Prozac years ago and I’ve followed their other work on behalf of the mentally ill, and again they have always fought for the underdog. I don’t get this same passion for suffering humans from Dr Malone. Not that he doesn’t care, but his posts are more about himself.
yup.