URGENT: OMICRON BA.2.75 sub-variant may be a problem, pre-print study in hamsters suggest BA.2.75 is more infectious & harmful than even dominant BA.5 & BA.2; BA.2.75 caused focal viral pneumonia...
URGENT: OMICRON BA.2.75 sub-variant may be a problem, pre-print study in hamsters suggest BA.2.75 is more infectious & harmful than even dominant BA.5 & BA.2; BA.2.75 caused focal viral pneumonia...
in hamsters, characterized by patchy inflammation interspersed in alveolar regions, not observed in BA.5-infected hamsters. BA.2.75 replicated better than BA.5 in the lungs of hamsters.
I think he didn't rule out the possibility that the virus might become intrinsically more virulent (i.e. also for the unjabbed) as a response to the immune pressure on virulence from the vaccinal antibodies.
The hamsters in the tests are 'unjabbed', but they also have no prior exposure.
Geert was fairly adamant that this type of mutation would be inevitable - more infectious AND more virulent (taking hold deeper in the respiratory tract.
That it would be comparatively more virulent for all, but the greatest problem would be for the vaccinated - due to their vaccinal antibody response. Those unjabbed - with no prior exposure - would have a broader immune response through their natural immune system. Those unjabbed, but with naturally acquired immunity, would typically have the most robust immune response.
The pathogen is the same for all categories of host. It is the immune response that will determine the degree of disease. With jab, prior exposure, and age (development stage of adaptive immunity) being key factors in how people cope with the more virulent strain.
India and Nepal has about 60% of population jabbed. I wonder why this new variant is not ‘spreading fast’ in countries where 80% of population is jabbed (to consider Selection Pressure by vaccinal antibodies).
Also, good timing with new bi-valent mRNAs approval.
how much is known (or strongly suspected, with some level of confidence) about the risks unjabbed people have, relative to the multiple-jabbed?
I'm not a scientist, so when you publish articles like this, it would be helpful to put in some clear messaging about whether or not we the unjabbed should be wary and take extra precautions (beyond what we already are doing), or if this threat is mainly, as far as you can tell, to the people with VAIDS.
Great question! I got the dreaded Delta back in October and it was bad. I am unvaxxed and will stay that way. My immunity was extremely high afterwards as my son got Covid at the end of December and I didn't catch it again even though we hugged and shared food prior to realizing he was sick. He ended up quite sick too. One thing I'd recommend is the nasal iodine sprays that have been recommended by doctors against the shots. It kills viruses-including covid up to 8 hours and stops replication. I use it any time I go out and am around people. So far so good. Of course keeping up with supplements (C, D3, Zinc, NAC, etc. is always a good idea even if covid isn't around!) I think the biggest takeaway should be, do what you can to stay healthy but don't live in fear.
Thank you -- I hadn't seen that before. That is from January, and it is reassuring advice I have been following.... yet, I would now also welcome Geert or someone like him weighing in on some of these new variants, with respect to risk to people who are unjabbed.
"However, I keep saying that the unvaccinated should now less and less worry about their health. Provided they were gradually increasing their contacts, their innate immune system should be well trained by now. Training will only pay off provided you’re in good health and you respect the rules (!) of a healthy lifestyle (which should be well known by now)." Geert Vanden Bossche
Wishful thinking from what I have seen. DANGEROUS FOR THE HIGH RISK from what I have seen.
The only example of this idea actually working in real life, from what I have seen, is the example of Dr. Darrell DeMello who introduced covid early treatment to India in early 2020 . He took D3 to maintain his blood test levels in the 90 nm/ml. range ( 60 to 90 recommended). He occasionally took HCQ and 12 mg Ivermectin in the beginning after a perceived high exposure and regularly used low dose colchicine according to a protocol that included periods of no use and short term higher use - as a prophylaxis to suppress inflammation and clotting. His practice treated 1,000's via tele-medicine, and he treated patients daily in office and with house calls. He regularly tested his antibodies to covid which increased to high levels over time without him ever having symptoms of covid-19.
DR DEMELLO ALWAYS WORE A PROFESSIONAL GRADE MASK SUCH AS A 3M N95. Dr Zelenko tried to do his version WITHOUT MASK and was hospitalized with severe covid-19, only surviving with heroic real medical care
The point being people at high risk from covid infection, "shot" or not "shot"can not go around "training" their immune system by hoping to just get a bit of training virus here or there. The can not rely only on prophilxas and they can not rely only on high quality masks.
I Am a great admirer of Dr Zelenko. I checked preprints.org daily for his study and was the seventh person in the world to download it, which I forwarded to journalists, media, and others thinking I could help a bit before realizing the extent of the "fix" that was "in". Dr. Zelenko was the first I found with a through explaination of the "fix that was in"
The fight to find the creators of this man made virus must never end , until the criminals are found, punished and put away for life. Fingers crossed the unvaxxed, with covid immunity from prior infection, will continue to maintain their health. Curious to know how the boosted in the Uk will fare, considering they are lining up at the clinics for their fifth jab!
Yes. I'm 115 pound 5' 6" woman and I have zero issue with taking horse paste measured for my body weight [which is far more exacting than a one-size-fits-all pill] . I take a daily dose for three days if I feel I'm coming down with something viral. One thing I've noticed, is these sneakier variants have onset milder symptoms, most markedly unusual tiredness or a very subtle sore throat.
But in the horse thing says it must be injected to the horse. They dont swallow it as we should. (Thinking about taking horse medicines makes me feel weird, lol)
I say yes. consider the the extent of counterfeits in high demand drugs. vs made in canada distributed from Blue springs, MO. used to treat million dollar horses. Very easy to accurately measure with durvet brand and other brands using the tube plunger marked with 5 notches for each 250 pounds of mammal marking, same "standard" dose per pound for horse and human, each 50 pound notch has a little more than 4 mg of ivermectin. was less than 2.5 cents per mg of ivermectin in Aug 2020 - a true retail price for ivermectin. corn oil base, food grade silica thickener, bad tasting fake apple flavor would not fool my sister's apple loving horse Calvin.
I cannot beleive your remark. Are you on substack and don't know anything about IVM???
As long as it is pure and not mixed with anything, and given that people cannot
get a script or get a script filled, what do you think? You gonna continue to
believe everything you have been told? It hasn't occurred to you that EVERYTHING you think you know is wrong? Suggest to turn off the tv and do a great deal of thinking about your life so far, and everything that you think is true. Start with gravity.
I know quite a lot about Ivermectin. I take a small amount prophylactically as per the FLCCC protocol. I take it in tablet form, made for humans. There is no need to be taking horse paste (do you spread it on toast?).
There are plenty of places where getting IVM is near on impossible. We had two parcels from India to Australia, one got through, the other was confiscated by customs with a stern letter threatening legal action for our attempt to import a banned substance.
IVM is generic. The 'horse paste' and human tablets are identical. It is the dose that matters.
Yes, from India to the UK. The pharmacy suggested regular post (tracked) would be better than sending by courier, as it would not require a customs declaration.
I suspect it's mainly for those whose immune systems have been severely compromised--that is, the jabbed. If not, oh well. Keep on keeping on. Take care of yourself and hope for the best. The difference between us and the Covidians in the first place is that we refused to alter our lives fundamentally because of a contemptible fear of a pathogen.
I’m not even slightly concerned. I would never even consider the jab. I protect myself by “medical distancing.” I make sure I stay at least six feet away from any bogus “covid” “PCR test.” My immune system is hungry and would relish a nice covid meal but can’t seem to find one! Milking “covid” is an industry created by people getting paid to cry “wolf.” It’s a scam guaranteed to make you sick and progressively sicker the more you buy in, so don’t buy in unless you want to be sick. Let’s use our powers of scrutiny on the actual agents of the disease, not the “covid.”
Why the obsessive tracking of every variant? Is this normal scientific behaviour, just thrust into the limelight by Covid obsession? Also, as the un-jabbed, who have been exposed to Covid, will have developed multiple B and T cell resistance to the viral capsule rather than just the "spike de jour", won't that provide natural immunity anyway, unless the viral capsule mutates wildly?
Yes, the first time I heard Geert VDB he said that because of the way the immune system operates, once it learns one corona version it’s defense is good for all variants because the variation will not be that big of a jump. He said there would be a new variation every 11 minutes!
I am wondering if the phenomenon of creation of a “superbug” has a reverse. You have created two populations, vaxxed and unvaxxed. Vaxxed have weakened immune systems. Will that not create a situation in which “the virus” has an easy road in the vaxxed? And as it moves in the direction of least resistance among the vaxxed will it not become itself softer and weaker as it specializes towards the “easy pickings” found among the vaxxed? Would this not tend to create “Whimpy Viruses” that pose less and less risk to the unvaccinated?
A possible evolutionary trajectory, driven by ADE (antibody dependent enhancement) but only after first becoming relatively more virulent for all - with the jabbed faring worst.
Just sayin'... unjabbed here. Never had C0v to my knowledge (!)... I was having difficulty taking a deep breath for 3 weeks. No coughing. I thought it was early hayfever, and the hot flashes due to menopause... and antihistamines didn't do much. I kept taking my supplements. Home test for Cov tested negative. I had an azithromicin antibiotic -human prespcription as preventive for my cats-. Well, I used it on myself (no I won't go see a doctor - my vet has been more compassionate) and on day 5 I feel much better, Almost no hot flashes too. Go figure... I will upgrade my supplement regimen to pull through 100%.
Does it makes sense to keel calling them Omicron? I mean, why are they subvariants of omicron and delta was not a subvariant of the previous one?
I am suspoicious that they want to keep the name omicron as a commercial strategy to sell omicron shots although the virus is already differemt
Excellent point!
Scary stuff, seems like Geert is going to be right again.
Geert was referring to the jabbed, correct?
I think he didn't rule out the possibility that the virus might become intrinsically more virulent (i.e. also for the unjabbed) as a response to the immune pressure on virulence from the vaccinal antibodies.
My understanding is:
The hamsters in the tests are 'unjabbed', but they also have no prior exposure.
Geert was fairly adamant that this type of mutation would be inevitable - more infectious AND more virulent (taking hold deeper in the respiratory tract.
That it would be comparatively more virulent for all, but the greatest problem would be for the vaccinated - due to their vaccinal antibody response. Those unjabbed - with no prior exposure - would have a broader immune response through their natural immune system. Those unjabbed, but with naturally acquired immunity, would typically have the most robust immune response.
The pathogen is the same for all categories of host. It is the immune response that will determine the degree of disease. With jab, prior exposure, and age (development stage of adaptive immunity) being key factors in how people cope with the more virulent strain.
India and Nepal has about 60% of population jabbed. I wonder why this new variant is not ‘spreading fast’ in countries where 80% of population is jabbed (to consider Selection Pressure by vaccinal antibodies).
Also, good timing with new bi-valent mRNAs approval.
I'll rely on my unjabbed natural immunity post covid to help me fight these fu$%ers.
Isn’t this exactly what you and Geert have been warning about?
how much is known (or strongly suspected, with some level of confidence) about the risks unjabbed people have, relative to the multiple-jabbed?
I'm not a scientist, so when you publish articles like this, it would be helpful to put in some clear messaging about whether or not we the unjabbed should be wary and take extra precautions (beyond what we already are doing), or if this threat is mainly, as far as you can tell, to the people with VAIDS.
Thank you.
Great question! I got the dreaded Delta back in October and it was bad. I am unvaxxed and will stay that way. My immunity was extremely high afterwards as my son got Covid at the end of December and I didn't catch it again even though we hugged and shared food prior to realizing he was sick. He ended up quite sick too. One thing I'd recommend is the nasal iodine sprays that have been recommended by doctors against the shots. It kills viruses-including covid up to 8 hours and stops replication. I use it any time I go out and am around people. So far so good. Of course keeping up with supplements (C, D3, Zinc, NAC, etc. is always a good idea even if covid isn't around!) I think the biggest takeaway should be, do what you can to stay healthy but don't live in fear.
https://voiceforscienceandsolidarity.substack.com/p/q-and-a-10-unvaccinated-and-fearless
Thank you -- I hadn't seen that before. That is from January, and it is reassuring advice I have been following.... yet, I would now also welcome Geert or someone like him weighing in on some of these new variants, with respect to risk to people who are unjabbed.
He most certainly will
Refer to his blog on his website (.org) for updates.
"However, I keep saying that the unvaccinated should now less and less worry about their health. Provided they were gradually increasing their contacts, their innate immune system should be well trained by now. Training will only pay off provided you’re in good health and you respect the rules (!) of a healthy lifestyle (which should be well known by now)." Geert Vanden Bossche
Wishful thinking from what I have seen. DANGEROUS FOR THE HIGH RISK from what I have seen.
The only example of this idea actually working in real life, from what I have seen, is the example of Dr. Darrell DeMello who introduced covid early treatment to India in early 2020 . He took D3 to maintain his blood test levels in the 90 nm/ml. range ( 60 to 90 recommended). He occasionally took HCQ and 12 mg Ivermectin in the beginning after a perceived high exposure and regularly used low dose colchicine according to a protocol that included periods of no use and short term higher use - as a prophylaxis to suppress inflammation and clotting. His practice treated 1,000's via tele-medicine, and he treated patients daily in office and with house calls. He regularly tested his antibodies to covid which increased to high levels over time without him ever having symptoms of covid-19.
DR DEMELLO ALWAYS WORE A PROFESSIONAL GRADE MASK SUCH AS A 3M N95. Dr Zelenko tried to do his version WITHOUT MASK and was hospitalized with severe covid-19, only surviving with heroic real medical care
Dr Zelenko was also fighting a cancer that eventually took his life.
Yes. He fought quite a fight in this life
The point being people at high risk from covid infection, "shot" or not "shot"can not go around "training" their immune system by hoping to just get a bit of training virus here or there. The can not rely only on prophilxas and they can not rely only on high quality masks.
I Am a great admirer of Dr Zelenko. I checked preprints.org daily for his study and was the seventh person in the world to download it, which I forwarded to journalists, media, and others thinking I could help a bit before realizing the extent of the "fix" that was "in". Dr. Zelenko was the first I found with a through explaination of the "fix that was in"
Agree!
The fight to find the creators of this man made virus must never end , until the criminals are found, punished and put away for life. Fingers crossed the unvaxxed, with covid immunity from prior infection, will continue to maintain their health. Curious to know how the boosted in the Uk will fare, considering they are lining up at the clinics for their fifth jab!
🦠💉⚰️
Can you buy IVM in the UK?
https://medicine-counter01.business.site/ You can buy it from here online. Pharmacy is in Tennessee and IVM is over the counter - no prescription needed.
OTC? Without prescription? Wonder if they ship to Canada BUt will Canada even let them come thru, is the question!
I tried to order iver into Canada, but the company told me they are not allowed to ship it inside Canada, terrible we turned like China
I got mine online in the UK for my horses.
Can you use the one for horses in a human body? Even at a lower dose, sounds risky
Yes. I'm 115 pound 5' 6" woman and I have zero issue with taking horse paste measured for my body weight [which is far more exacting than a one-size-fits-all pill] . I take a daily dose for three days if I feel I'm coming down with something viral. One thing I've noticed, is these sneakier variants have onset milder symptoms, most markedly unusual tiredness or a very subtle sore throat.
I agree. Been taking it for 2 years, still not eating hay.
But in the horse thing says it must be injected to the horse. They dont swallow it as we should. (Thinking about taking horse medicines makes me feel weird, lol)
I'm an oats n' apples gal m'self!
I say yes. consider the the extent of counterfeits in high demand drugs. vs made in canada distributed from Blue springs, MO. used to treat million dollar horses. Very easy to accurately measure with durvet brand and other brands using the tube plunger marked with 5 notches for each 250 pounds of mammal marking, same "standard" dose per pound for horse and human, each 50 pound notch has a little more than 4 mg of ivermectin. was less than 2.5 cents per mg of ivermectin in Aug 2020 - a true retail price for ivermectin. corn oil base, food grade silica thickener, bad tasting fake apple flavor would not fool my sister's apple loving horse Calvin.
Oh for goodness sake. Are you trolling?
I cannot beleive your remark. Are you on substack and don't know anything about IVM???
As long as it is pure and not mixed with anything, and given that people cannot
get a script or get a script filled, what do you think? You gonna continue to
believe everything you have been told? It hasn't occurred to you that EVERYTHING you think you know is wrong? Suggest to turn off the tv and do a great deal of thinking about your life so far, and everything that you think is true. Start with gravity.
I know quite a lot about Ivermectin. I take a small amount prophylactically as per the FLCCC protocol. I take it in tablet form, made for humans. There is no need to be taking horse paste (do you spread it on toast?).
There are plenty of places where getting IVM is near on impossible. We had two parcels from India to Australia, one got through, the other was confiscated by customs with a stern letter threatening legal action for our attempt to import a banned substance.
IVM is generic. The 'horse paste' and human tablets are identical. It is the dose that matters.
No, but it is easily ordered from India and, I presume, elsewhere.
India is the place to obtain it
Thanks!
There is a list of pharmacies that will provide IVM on the FLCCC website. I used Bull Pharmachem but I am sure the others are just as good.
Did you order it to the UK? I am in the EU...
Yes, from India to the UK. The pharmacy suggested regular post (tracked) would be better than sending by courier, as it would not require a customs declaration.
For the jabbed?
This was my question, too. For the jabbed or for everyone.
I suspect it's mainly for those whose immune systems have been severely compromised--that is, the jabbed. If not, oh well. Keep on keeping on. Take care of yourself and hope for the best. The difference between us and the Covidians in the first place is that we refused to alter our lives fundamentally because of a contemptible fear of a pathogen.
And we know the next deadly outbreak will be blamed on the unvaxxed for being the cause of new variants.
Interesting that this variant is in India, where least vaxxed and Rx with ivm etc
Paging Dr Vanden Bossche...
From Marc Giradot substack. Well worth a read🥰
https://substack.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.afla7N7y-RmPnyUxl0sSZi1n0lmcybCkrtQOq-RtAng?
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I’m not even slightly concerned. I would never even consider the jab. I protect myself by “medical distancing.” I make sure I stay at least six feet away from any bogus “covid” “PCR test.” My immune system is hungry and would relish a nice covid meal but can’t seem to find one! Milking “covid” is an industry created by people getting paid to cry “wolf.” It’s a scam guaranteed to make you sick and progressively sicker the more you buy in, so don’t buy in unless you want to be sick. Let’s use our powers of scrutiny on the actual agents of the disease, not the “covid.”
Why the obsessive tracking of every variant? Is this normal scientific behaviour, just thrust into the limelight by Covid obsession? Also, as the un-jabbed, who have been exposed to Covid, will have developed multiple B and T cell resistance to the viral capsule rather than just the "spike de jour", won't that provide natural immunity anyway, unless the viral capsule mutates wildly?
Yes, the first time I heard Geert VDB he said that because of the way the immune system operates, once it learns one corona version it’s defense is good for all variants because the variation will not be that big of a jump. He said there would be a new variation every 11 minutes!
I am wondering if the phenomenon of creation of a “superbug” has a reverse. You have created two populations, vaxxed and unvaxxed. Vaxxed have weakened immune systems. Will that not create a situation in which “the virus” has an easy road in the vaxxed? And as it moves in the direction of least resistance among the vaxxed will it not become itself softer and weaker as it specializes towards the “easy pickings” found among the vaxxed? Would this not tend to create “Whimpy Viruses” that pose less and less risk to the unvaccinated?
A possible evolutionary trajectory, driven by ADE (antibody dependent enhancement) but only after first becoming relatively more virulent for all - with the jabbed faring worst.
Just sayin'... unjabbed here. Never had C0v to my knowledge (!)... I was having difficulty taking a deep breath for 3 weeks. No coughing. I thought it was early hayfever, and the hot flashes due to menopause... and antihistamines didn't do much. I kept taking my supplements. Home test for Cov tested negative. I had an azithromicin antibiotic -human prespcription as preventive for my cats-. Well, I used it on myself (no I won't go see a doctor - my vet has been more compassionate) and on day 5 I feel much better, Almost no hot flashes too. Go figure... I will upgrade my supplement regimen to pull through 100%.
Not good news.
"They" are going to prove Geert right, and then "Double Down" with even more deadly Omicron "variants."
It's what I would do if I were "them."
I posted on this 2 months ago - may be of interest:
https://2ndsmartestguyintheworld.substack.com/p/all-options-and-variants-are-in-play
So what you're saying is, here we go again?