Vilma’s Substack: Robert Malone Supported the Testing of Anthrax Vaccines on Children? What do you think by this exchange? This exchange with Dr. M Nass in 2011 is very interesting & worth sharing

Robert Malone vs Dr. Meryl Nass then in 2011 versus now; Vilma asked Is Robert Kennedy, Jr. a hypocrite for elevating Malone? I know Robert, good principled man, Nass too, so what gives? You say?

What is your view of this piece?

I am silent on Kennedy’s relationship with Malone. Not my business or concern. We each can be friends with whom we chose. I have no issue with Malone personally. My questions have been scientific ones and his role in the mRNA technology within the COVID gene injections. And how he can help with an antidote to the very mRNA technology he said he invented. So get that right. Not my business who he is.

Was Malone central to the Anthrax vaccine push back then? As per this stack?

Very interesting. I need more information.

I think Bobby Kennedy Jr. checks good boxes, good man, good person, he belongs to the wrong party IMO, democrats as they exist today are insane! too radical and I know many great democrats so the party does not represent the people! and I am big on 2nd and against the environmental green bullsh*t money-grab fraud; I need to know his views on these yet do approve of his strong stance on this fraud mRNA technology gene injection.

Vilma raises an important question in the substack below and I share as I try to understand Malone’s role in 2011 and the anthrax vaccine. Recall, such vaccine contained squalene that was said to be linked to chronic multi-symptom illnesses Gulf War veterans experienced, and squalene was thought to be present in anthrax vaccine. Was this subject vaccine an issue? Did this vaccine they talk about contain squalene?

I find this exchange is so very interesting and in the interest of full disclosure, it was shared with me and I wanted to share so that we are informed of the full landscape etc. No censorship.

It would be helpful to get Malone’s views today April 2023 and within the era of COVID and the fraud mRNA technology based gene injection. Of this exchange below. I hold no opinion. Yet I ask, was the intent then to test these vaccines on children?

Start here:

‘It’s 2011, where is Robert Malone?

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Two years later…

Back to 2011 - the Obama Administration and their minions are eager to use our kids as guinea pigs…..

National Biodefense Science Board 10.28.2011 Minutes of Public Teleconference

October 28, 2011: Robert Malone vs Dr. Meryl Nass:

OPERATOR: Yes. Your next question is from the line of Robert Malone.

DR. MALONE: Hi, thank you very much. I'm a physician scientist that specializes in vaccines and biodefense and I just wanted to lend my voice to the first comment in this public series.

That if it's possible for the committee to advocate NIAID investments in dose pairing in this pediatric population, dose pairing studies for this vaccine, I suspect that that will be warranted due to the potential AE profile and hopefully might still enable sufficient immunogenicity.

That's all I wanted to say.

CAPT SAWYER: Thank you. Our next speaker?

“OPERATOR: Okay. Your next question is from the line of Meryl Nass.

CAPT SAWYER: Thank you.

DR. NASS: Thank you. I had a couple of comments. One is that I would be happy to give you all a copy of the slide from MILVAX and the vaccine healthcare centers that points out that there are one or two percent serious adverse effects from the adults from anthrax vaccines.

And furthermore, in the CDC trial, there were about seven to eight percent serious adverse events reported to FDA in the anthrax vaccine trial that has never had a final publication.
My other point is that although you were almost unanimous in supporting this trial, the American public that's commented on the article by Rob Stein has, in the hundreds, been almost unanimously against it.

So it's interesting to see how people inside the beltway seem to think differently than the rest of the country and I think government officials might take that to heart.

CAPT SAWYER: Thank you. I suppose we're ready for the next person.”

"During the public comment part of the meeting, members of the public strongly opposed the NBSB's recommendation, while others spoke in favor of it. Vera Sharav, with the Alliance for Human Research Protection, told the group that there is no evidence that anthrax is a threat that affects US children, and she accused the board of making the decision to protect vaccine company profit margins.

Meryl Nass, MD, an internist who has studied anthrax vaccine injuries and bioterror issues, said she believes the US public is almost unanimously against pursuing anthrax vaccine studies in children in advance of a bioterror attack. "But the people inside the beltway see things differently," she added. 
The report and recommendation passed by a 12 to 1 vote. Patricia Quinlisk, MD, MPH, the board's chair, opposed sending the recommendation to HHS."  10/28/2011   
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/anthrax/nbsb-urges-pre-attack-studies-anthrax-vaccine-kids

“Meryl Nass, MD, an internist who has studied anthrax vaccine injuries and bioterror issues, said she believes the US public is almost unanimously against pursuing anthrax vaccine studies in children in advance of a bioterror attack. "But the people inside the beltway see things differently," she added.”   https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/anthrax/nbsb-urges-pre-attack-studies-anthrax-vaccine-kids

October 28, 2011 Robert Malone vs Vera Sharav:

“OPERATOR: Yes. Your next question is from the line of Robert Malone.

DR. MALONE: Hi, thank you very much. I'm a physician scientist that specializes in vaccines and biodefense and I just wanted to lend my voice to the first comment in this public series.

That if it's possible for the committee to advocate NIAID investments in dose pairing in this pediatric population, dose pairing studies for this vaccine, I suspect that that will be warranted due to the potential AE profile and hopefully might still enable sufficient immunogenicity.

That's all I wanted to say.

CAPT SAWYER: Thank you. Our next speaker?”

“OPERATOR: Okay. Your next question is from the line of Vera Sharav.

MS. SHARAV: I'm from the Alliance for Human Research Protection. And I'd like to remind everyone that U.S. law prohibits exposure of children to greater than minimal risk in clinical trials if no direct benefit is expected.

The only exception is a study for the prevention or alleviation of serious problems affecting the health or welfare of children. There is absolutely no evidence that anthrax is a serious problem affecting U.S. children.

The vaccine poses substantial risks of severe adverse effects including permanent disability and death. Anthrax is only one of more than a dozen biological agents that could be used by terrorists, so why all the emphasis on anthrax?

The answer is, follow the money. This initiative is not about protecting children, but rather about protecting the vaccine manufacturer's obscene profit margins. A 2010 report based on FEC disclosure documents shows how Emergent Biosolutions, whose only product is the anthrax vaccine, whose only customer is the U.S. government, has been price gouging U.S. taxpayers, raking in an enormous profit of 300 percent.

Those profits have been used for large political contributions and heavy lobby duty. The proposed trial is an unconscionable exploitation of children's vulnerability as non-consenting subjects.

The trial would expose healthy children to substantial risks of harm with no direct benefit. It is by definition, unethical. A GAO 2007 report stated that between one and two percent of vaccinated individuals experience severe adverse events which could result in disability and death.

And FDA approved label say s that approximately six percent of reported adverse events were listed as serious, resulting in death, hospitalization, permanent disability and were life threatening.

Antibiotics are the proven treatment of choice when the vaccine's benefits are not --

CAPT SAWYER: Thank you. Operator, we need --”

Activists said the board was wrong not to oppose unequivocally testing the anthrax vaccine in children. Vera Sharav, founder of the Alliance for Human Research Protection, predicted that such a study would cause “moral harm for us as a nation and suffering for the children. They should have said, ‘thou shalt not.’”          https://www.reuters.com/article/us-anthrax-vaccine-children-idUSBRE92I03220130319

“The trial would expose healthy children to substantial harm with no possibility of benefit,” said Vera Sharav of the Alliance for Human Research Protection, a New York-based advocacy group. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/federal-advisers-endorse-testing-anthrax-vaccine-in-children/2011/10/27/gIQA95i7PM_story.html  

Robert Malone agrees with caller #1, below, but wants “dose pairing”: “I presumed he (Malone) meant pairing the dose of Anthrax with another vaccine, which is even scarier” (comment from a Biologist who has reviewed these Minutes). The Minutes have been authenticated by a current Federal Government employee.

“MR. NEWMARK: Quick question. I'm from the Joint Program Executive Office. We're, other than HHS, the major customer for AVA. 

If HHS votes, Board votes to recommend to Dr. Lurie that HHS fund a study in children, have you considered what that study would look like pre-event? I'm particularly thinking about a reduced dosage schedule or reduced challenge, given that work is going on to reduce the schedule down from six doses strikes me that, you know, the Board has very appropriately recognized that there are all sorts of problems in doing stuff with children. 

And the fewer doses you can get away with, the better. The question is, what's the minimum data that you can obtain that would satisfy Dr. Lurie's challenge? 

DR. FAGBUYI: So thank you for that comment. This is Dr. Fagbuyi. I want to be clear, and I appreciate your comment. Thank you for calling in and giving that comment.

By the way, so it's HHS and DOD. With that said, the question that we were asked, the Board was asked a specific question. Do this now, ahead of time before an event or do this after, during an event? 

And that's the question we were asked to address. We addressed that question. Now that's on FDA and the other agencies that would be involved in looking at this and how they would do the study. We don't include that detail in this tasking. Thank you.

MR. NEWMARK: Thank you.”

I agree with Dr. Anthony Robbins, below. If Robert Malone is so eager to test the Anthrax vaccine(s) on children, he should’ve volunteered his boys and all of the children within his extended families.

   "By DR. ANTHONY ROBBINS: "there may be a way around the problem, a way to find the right group of “volunteer” children. You want to find the right children to receive experimental injections of the anthrax vaccine? How about the children of people who have the national security clearance required for the government to share with them all the evidence that adds up to a “credible threat?” With that information in hand, these parents would be able to make the choice-an informed decision for their children-that the rest of the public surely cannot.”     

https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2011/10/27/how-to-test-the-anthrax-vaccine-in-childrenOctober 28, 2011 No Anthrax Vaccine Testing on Children-for Now

Is Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. a hypocrite for having Robert Malone working in his campaign for POTUS and at Children’s Health Defense, considering Malone’s eagerness to test Anthrax vaccines on our babies? I say yes. Yes. Yes.

It’s ironic that in 2011, both warriors Dr. Meryl Nass and Ms. Vera Sharav were fighting to keep our kids away from the vaccine Frankenstein and today the three of them are working under Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s umbrella - Frankenstein doesn’t belong in that tribe of warriors. Stop protecting him. As Housatonic.Live says - Malone is the soiled tissue paper on Dr. McCullough’s shoes (one has run vaccine experiments on humans, the other one saves the lives of humans).

Let the Frankenstein memes begin….’

Robert Malone Supported the Testing of Anthrax Vaccines on Children