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and those who refuse the experimental covid vaccine are denied organ transplants... i wonder if the vax status of the donor organ will make a difference?

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I got my surgery's before the antibody infusion and injection so no vaccine needed and I contracted covid just before antibodies

I'm doing good now 6 months later

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Paul

If they have a weakened dysfunctional immune system, would we expect them to mount any favorable response to the mRNA jab?

If the jab doesn’t prevent transmission of the virus in healthy people, why would it work in less immune healthy people?

Am I missing something here?

Is my logic off?

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Decades ago I went through a series of aggressive chemo and radiation treatments for cancer. I depended on platelet, red blood cell and daily self injected medication to boost my white blood cells. In other words my immune system was very low and took me years to get the numbers up. During that time I inquired about flu vaccines. My oncology team recommended against because they said it was questionable if a suppressed immune system could react to the vaccines and fight it. I’m so grateful there was no mRNA jab around or I’d probably have been rejected from the life-saving treatment I received at the hands of Healers. I don’t call them just doctors and nurses, but Healers and Angels. My oncologist pulled me off a study because she didn’t like the way it was going. Imagine if it would happen today, a doctor going against a CDC or other captured agency study, losing them and the hospital money by taking a patient off! Regardless, I faced a. 50/50 chance of survival WITH all treatment (surgery, aggressive chemo, and radiation). Yet, I’m supposed to be cowering in fear of a virus with a 0.3% death rate? The jab reduces your chances of survival, as it happens. The medical profession has been reduced to the “good old days” of insisting that bleeding and emetics was a cure and treatment for smallpox and everything else for which the establishment medical authorities promoted and prosecuted anyone suggesting otherwise, even such as washing one’s hands and using sterile equipment.

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Glad to hear that you did so well with your horrible diagnosis.

Over the years I have reversed gears on the Flu vaccine. Maybe the vaccine by itself is good, but all the adjuvants they are putting in with the vaccines are crazy. Most of the ingredients of the Flu vaccines are not listed and can only be found out via separate publications from independent labs. From the independent lab's reports I've seen, I will never take another Flu vaccine.

They have NO RIGHT to be injecting ppl with all these hidden ingredients, Toxins, and even "other viral contaminants - DNA".

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It's a good question that many are asking.

Cellular immunity is different than Humoral immunity as you know (antibody function vs cells like Natural Killer Cells). People, including most physicians do not understand that the immune system is not a "lock and Key" type of event. That the key only fits one lock is not true. Even that if you use the key too much, the "lock" quits working. Over stimulation of the immune system can and will depress it making ppl more susceptible to the original infection or other infections. That is one of the reasons ppl are functionally immunosuppressed after they are getting a SARSCOV2 vaccine. They are actually more susceptible to infections for at least 2 weeks (for some much longer). The Spike Protein is a Toxic substance and it should have never been allowed to be in this type of vaccine where ppl's bodies are programed to produce it. It is systemic production and some studies show that even after the vaccine, they will make the Spike Protein for up to 18 months after the injection which begs the question as to why if they are still making the Spike Protein and it can still be found in their tissues then why are they losing immunity to COVID-19? Now, knowing that long term stimulation of a "Toxic" antigen can actually suppresses the Immune System to that antigen (the spike protein) in the same way that allergy shots decreases someone's immune response to ragweed. The two major problems that you will not see on the news is that the Immune System has a problem with "antigenic mimicking" where one key can fit many locks...In other words, that the immune system may be making "bombs" against the vaccine induced Programmed Spike Proteins (which by the way is not the same Spike Protein that's in the SARSCOV2 virus - crazy right? They didn't use the SARSCOV2 Spike Protein but just a stock Coronavirus protein) that we are expecting to be smart bombs only attacking the SARSVOV2 virus but in reality they are also attacking normal healthy tissues. The analogy here is when you get too many Strep Throat infections, the Immune System starts attacking the Heart Valves> Now combine this problem with the revelation that these vaccine induced Programmed into our DNA Production of Spike Protein is now systemic. It is throughout the body and has a preference for some tissues/cells more than others. Like I said, these Spike Proteins are being made for up to 18 months in heart tissue, lung tissue, livers, and so on. It probably is even longer, but I'm aware of only one study that has tested out to 18 months - I've seen no studies out longer than this. Now if a tissue/cell is manufacturing Spike Protein the Immune system's smart bombs will destroy those cells that are making these Toxic Spike Proteins. This gets even more weird from here on. The manufactures of these vaccines lied again about aborted babies DNA being in the vaccines. It's much more than they first admitted. The reason the aborted baby DNA is in the vaccines is because Fetal DNA does not have the same HLA antigens that Adults do and the lack of those HLA antigens make them protected from the "host's" immune system. That way the Fetal DNA helps the DNA be assimilated into the host's DNA (Yes, in case you are wondering, every woman that has been pregnant carries for the rest of their life their babies DNA and is actively reproducing it - it kind of puts a new spin on maternal bonding.). The result of the Fetal DNA is that the DNA from the vaccines are taken up into the recipient's DNA/cells. When those cells start producing Spike Protein, the immune system sees those cells as harmful and goes after them. We are seeing many reports a transplants being rejected following the vaccination. It is easy to tell by "immunohistochemical staining techniques" whether or not the transplant tissues, or any tissue for that matter, is making spike protein from a vaccine or from an actual SARSCOV2 infection. The problem is, they are NOT doing it. I've seen Heart biopsies from "myocarditis" patients that clearly stain with the vaccine spike protein that is being produced in the cardiac cells. We have ample evidence from other Countries that the vaccines are causing Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE). We are seeing in these countries that report the data (our own CDC is withholding the data and has stated it will not collect the data on ppl admitted to the hospital who are vaccinated) that because they were vaccinated they are at more risk for complications including death when they get exposed to the actual virus. We saw this ADE with many other vaccines in the past where the ppl that got vaccinated got exposed to the real virus, they were severely injured or died. ADE occurred in the RSV vaccine, original measles vaccine, Dengue Fever vaccine, MERS & SARS vaccines, and others. It wasn't like they did not know from the reactions they had from the MERS & SARS Coronavirus vaccines that this wasn't a possibility. There is more to write, but a search on the topic will yield more info.

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Thanks Jramsix.

I am trying to simplify the concept when I have pro and con discussions with my individual patients. I am looking for empirical experience based mechanisms that I see day to day. That is why I asked the question. I don’t see a weak immune system being helped by this type of mRNA treatment especially to prevent getting sick from the virus, which by now is different than what is in the mRNA.

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Nov 19, 2022·edited Nov 19, 2022

I agree with you 100%.

The very nature of this vaccine in of itself is not good for healthy ppl and worse in the long run for sicker/weaker ppl. There were several countries that very soon did not recommend giving it to older/sicker/weaker ppl bc they saw much worse side effects early on. They stopped it for ppl over 65. This was even before later side effects such as ADE started to appear.

When I talk to patients my favorite is to use the VAERS data. I site that it reflects <3% of actual events (there are plenty of studies to confirm this). I note that the side effects including death, permanent disability, hospitalizations, seizures, narcolepsy, POTTS syndrome, neuropathies, and others are more with these mRNA vaccines than all of the other vaccines combined for over 20 years of data collection.

I agree with you that there is no easy way to try to explain how and why all the different ways these vaccines are interacting with us. You could spend an hour doing so and still they will say that the CDC is good with it why are "you" questioning it?

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Love your explanation! Even a farmer can understand it! 😌

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Thank you for you insightful and easy to understand info. This so called “vaccine” is nothing but a bio weapon and those that took it are part of a big experiment. To what end? I don’t know for sure but I know it can’t be one that’s for the greater good. Someone posted something about eugenics being alive and kicking. If true, we’re watching it unfold in real time. God help us; He/She is the only one who can🙏🏼🙏🏽🙏🏿

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I believe that you are 100% right. This is a manmade Bioweapon.

They are now not shy about their goals and how they are going to achieve them. They have been publishing how they are going to achieve depopulation now for decades. One of their methods was to use vaccines. They have used the Tetanus vaccine in multiple countries where they sterilized millions of young women with it by "tainting" the vaccine with HCG - the pregnancy hormone. That's a fact and the WHO apologized for it when they got caught but it didn't stop them from doing it again. Read Dr. Stanley Monteith's, "The Brotherhood of Darkness" to understand who and why they are doing this.

Here is Bill Gates where he says in a Ted Talk, how they are planning to use vaccines to depopulate the World: https://youtu.be/8rspwS3vS7o

The lie is the world is overpopulated. You can fit all the ppl in the world in the State of Texas, house them in a home, and still have enough land left over in Texas to grow food to feed them all. Here is a great website that tells the truth about world population: https://www.pop.org/episode-1-overpopulation-the-making-of-a-myth/

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The study doesn’t state the mechanism of how lung transplant rejection occurs in lung transplant patients who had to receive the vaccine prior to their transplant. The study only shows a pattern of rejection in patients who prior to transplantation were fully vaccinated. It just goes to show that we have no idea the side effects of these ineffective vaccines and that requiring patients to be fully vaxxed to receive a transplant sets a dangerous precedent.

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My sister in law was at Moffitt cancer center for 6 weeks in isolation for a stem cell transplant for leukemia. She kept asking me about ivermectin. They wore her down & I think they got her to take the shot, she stopped asking about ivermectin. She was declared a success. A month in after care& she died 3 weeks after she got home from kidney failure. She had no muscle, couldn’t even stand up on her own. They would not let me give her organic smoothies because it may interfere with her rejection medicine. Sorry it’s a little off topic.

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I am so sorry this happened to your family. This entire covid situation is truly a catastrophe for the entire world. Too much tragedy for so many families. And it's not over yet.

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Thanks. I agree , the next few years fallout is going to be like we’ve never seen. & so many children… God help them.

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The good news is God so loved the whole world. Not just part of it or some of it. Those that die from this wickedness will not be condemned for their decisions (forced or not).

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Why wouldn’t lung rejection be any different than corneal rejection?! Amazingly some transplant centers are still withholding transplants due to not getting injected. This is capital murder/attempted murder in my book.

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We need to en mass remove ourselves from the transplant donor lists. Something needs to give here! BTW, I’m vaccinated! HCP so very early. I now see the harm. What a mistake!

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I'm sorry you fell for the propaganda.

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Health Care Proxy?

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Provider

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Thanks@Irunthis1. Yes Health Care Provider.

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My husband had a liver transplant in 2014. We decided we would wait and see. Did our research and have been following Dr Alexander from the beginning of the scamdemic and political science. We are still unjabbed. Must say we had a flu of sorts this summer. Lasted a week nothing that the good old fashion remedies and the peroxide water nasal wash and gargle that you suggested Dr Alexander. Our immune systems did the job they were supposed to do. Thank you.

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So glad you didn’t get jab. Can you imagine the life altering scenario of organ rejection after jab?

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A guy at work had lots of children and dozens of grandchildren. Last year, a one day old grandchild showed up at his home on Christmas Day. He is blessed.

Some of his in-laws have been jabbed (with bad results) but none of his direct descendants. He is starting a database of all of the un-jabbed extended family for blood types. He will have a database of un-jabbed blood downers in case of an emergency. I hope to get included in his database.

Many others could do this. It's a very good idea.

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So, in order to qualify for a lung transplant, you need to take a shot the will make it more likely the transplant will be rejected and you will die? That makes perfect Democrat sense.

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Nov 18, 2022·edited Nov 18, 2022

Big Pharma and our current medical system is not trying to heal you. They are making money and don't give a rip about your actual health. BTW I would take organ donor off your drivers license as you are worth millions for your organs. Think they will leave you on life support very long?

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The tragedy is people are being denied transplants because they have not had and will not get the vaccine. Just read an article yesterday about a woman is dying because she is being denied a transplant.

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The transplants fail when the pure blood recipient receives one from a Jabbed donor.

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I can’t imagine, as an organ donor without the vax, that my organs would be denied to any person let alone someone who (like me) chose not to be a test dummy for coof juice.

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and yet, the PEOPLE WERE FORCED TO TAKE THE SHOTS!!! OR NO TRANSPLANT!!! Talk about catch 22! So the idiot doctors, hospital and UNOS, again were WRONG and COST THE LIVES OF PEOPLE. All for the sake of MONEY!!

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It is absolutely nuts that someone needs to be given an experimental shot and be part of a big medical experiment in order to be eligible for an organ transplant. Did our medical establishment really devolve to this?

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Lay person here who's friend's husband is a liver organ recipient in UK. The authorities already knew that immunocompromised receiving these injections would not induce antibodies as a healthy person would. From conversations with my friend in summer of this year, he had just received dose #4 as previous 3 had not generated any response. Because there is no "off switch" to production of spike proteins apart from the generation of antibodies, does this mean he is constantly making them to infinity? It's just over 3 years since his transplant and has lived an extremely sheltered life since then anyway because of risk of any illness. So still producing spike protein after 18 months. Only time will tell I suppose. I do worry about the dangers of these, which could be in their trillions with consecutive doses, yet some examiners of vials have found no mRNA at all or broken bits so spike proteins not produced or altered things produced instead. I am referring to Sasha Latypova interviews on difficulties of producing very unstable and delicate formula in bulk with so many different components of which the LNP, another toxin, is just one, not forgetting undisclosed trade mark secret ingredients which are allowed under EUA rules. Lastly, lots of different contaminants found also. I am horrified as to what's really going on and latest G20 meeting in Bali have now reiterated requirements for vaccination passports for international travel! Health security they call it. I call it technocracy facism!

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I'm a lung transplant patient and they always push me to get vac-ed and I say no everytime!

I have had the antibody transfusion and evisheild so far so good no complications and the answer will always be NO!!!

Thank you for the information its very helpful

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Nov 18, 2022·edited Nov 18, 2022

Nope, the answer is they are evil and trying to sicken and kill us all for profit and Agenda 2030. Injecting pregnant women with almost anything is taboo yet it is recommended. That is why none of this makes any sense at all. Stop trying to rationalize it on any intelligent, common sense level because you cannot. Everybody better wake up and get in the fight, this is war.

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A steadfast fool is self confident, close-minded, completely committed to his own god and his own gratification, and has dedicated his life to drawing as many others as he can to his own evil ways. Psalms 14:1

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