in majority of unexposed patients & healthy persons. RTx patients 13/20 showed CD4+ T cells reactive against at least 1 SARS-CoV-2 protein. CD8+ T cells reactive against at least 1 SARS-CoV-2 protein
This and we know our donor blood supply is contaminated with mRNA spike protein. I wonder what the objectives were for doing this study? I’m guessing they were looking for the presence of T Cell antibodies to SARS Covid 2 going back before it was ever declared a pandemic? So it would be good to know when. I had antibody testing done Aug 2021 with a negative result. Then got sick a week later with the delta. 3 months later I repeated the test and the antibody count to Covid was > 800. When I got sick I also had monoclonal antibodies. I don’t know if that played a role. I never had a PCR test anyway. Not at all reliable.
This is not my area of expertise but I am curious.
I do not have the papers immediately at hand, but there was an Italian paper, where the cancer docs had pulled out pretreatment blood samples of some of their patients from - I think it was 2018, but maybe summer 209, and found SARS2 antibodies. There was a French paper, they found antibodies in blood samples stored in 2018. There are ~30,000 Chinese living in Milan, because the CCP bought out most if not all the Italian fabric makers. What with all the international travel, there were spates of nastier pneumonias 2018 on. I am aware of some Chinese high school exchange students coming back to the U.S. who told their host, yeah there was a bad pneumonia that was going around in Shanghai and Beijing in 2018, summer 2019. So, the lab virus did get around, before being further purified and multiplied in pharmaceutical commercial sized batches and seeded nearly simultaneously around the world. All the variants, all the omicrons are lab constructs. I got Wuhan in June 2020, it was rough. I also have had 3 omicrons this year. Symptoms are distinctive, but nothing like Wuhan in intensity and length of time. A natural virus wouldn't crop up at the same time, and it would burn out, attenuate in 6-9 months at most. Even a lab leak, which can sure, affect say as many as 1000 people, will only go so far - it doesn't go worldwide. Ebola outbreaks are local, as long as people do not travel after exposure and start a new cluster. Avian viruses have more potential that way because of bird migration seasons, but even so, they burn out in months, and they do not distribute evenly either temporally or geographically. JJ Couey explains how corona viruses operate, and why they are not candidates for vaccines. You can find him over at Twitch. Not the most recent video, but 1 or 2 or maybe 3 videos ago. He was also on a Children's Health Defense panel with Malone, RFK Jr. and some other top-notch folks recently, that was a good discussion. Coronavirus vaccine candidate have always killed all the test animals. Again, I apologize for not having the papers at hand.
SARS-CoV-2 (or a cororonavirus similar to that) circulated among us before the "Wuhan outbreak". There is plenty of evidence the outbreak started really well before Dec of -19. See my reply to Potatodots a couple of minutes ago for additional info.
They have always LIED to us, they have never ever told us the truth, and they are Lying now but we cannot wait 20 years to find out the truth from the past, because we may not be here, and some of us won't... Please watch be fore 9PM..
Does an unjabbed person even want a transplant of any kind if the donor organ is contaminated with mRNA? This is what I was thinking as I read this.
This and we know our donor blood supply is contaminated with mRNA spike protein. I wonder what the objectives were for doing this study? I’m guessing they were looking for the presence of T Cell antibodies to SARS Covid 2 going back before it was ever declared a pandemic? So it would be good to know when. I had antibody testing done Aug 2021 with a negative result. Then got sick a week later with the delta. 3 months later I repeated the test and the antibody count to Covid was > 800. When I got sick I also had monoclonal antibodies. I don’t know if that played a role. I never had a PCR test anyway. Not at all reliable.
This is not my area of expertise but I am curious.
I do not have the papers immediately at hand, but there was an Italian paper, where the cancer docs had pulled out pretreatment blood samples of some of their patients from - I think it was 2018, but maybe summer 209, and found SARS2 antibodies. There was a French paper, they found antibodies in blood samples stored in 2018. There are ~30,000 Chinese living in Milan, because the CCP bought out most if not all the Italian fabric makers. What with all the international travel, there were spates of nastier pneumonias 2018 on. I am aware of some Chinese high school exchange students coming back to the U.S. who told their host, yeah there was a bad pneumonia that was going around in Shanghai and Beijing in 2018, summer 2019. So, the lab virus did get around, before being further purified and multiplied in pharmaceutical commercial sized batches and seeded nearly simultaneously around the world. All the variants, all the omicrons are lab constructs. I got Wuhan in June 2020, it was rough. I also have had 3 omicrons this year. Symptoms are distinctive, but nothing like Wuhan in intensity and length of time. A natural virus wouldn't crop up at the same time, and it would burn out, attenuate in 6-9 months at most. Even a lab leak, which can sure, affect say as many as 1000 people, will only go so far - it doesn't go worldwide. Ebola outbreaks are local, as long as people do not travel after exposure and start a new cluster. Avian viruses have more potential that way because of bird migration seasons, but even so, they burn out in months, and they do not distribute evenly either temporally or geographically. JJ Couey explains how corona viruses operate, and why they are not candidates for vaccines. You can find him over at Twitch. Not the most recent video, but 1 or 2 or maybe 3 videos ago. He was also on a Children's Health Defense panel with Malone, RFK Jr. and some other top-notch folks recently, that was a good discussion. Coronavirus vaccine candidate have always killed all the test animals. Again, I apologize for not having the papers at hand.
Very good info about the early circulation of SARS-CoV-2:
https://daoyu15.substack.com/p/mountains-of-circumstantial-evidence
Italy:
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220830/Italian-study-finds-SARS-CoV-2-in-clinical-samples-collected-before-December-2019.aspx
http://adeno-news.com/2022/07/30/mystery-deepens-over-early-sars-cov-2-spread-as-autopsied-patients-in-italy-test-positive/
http://adeno-news.com/2022/09/16/strongest-evidence-yet-of-sars-cov-2-specific-antibodies-found-in-apuila-southern-italy/
Boston, US:
http://adeno-news.com/2022/08/07/mystery-deepens-over-early-sars-cov-2-circulation-as-antigens-found-in-pre-pandemic-samples-in-boston/
UK:
https://metro.co.uk/2020/09/09/grandad-84-first-to-die-of-coronavirus-in-uk-fell-ill-two-weeks-before-christmas-13244673/
The deer in Northern US and Canada were also positive before (they were not affected by the Wuhan spike like the most of the wild animals)
This video/podcast provides additional info about the history based on news and other public information (you can start at ~6 mins):
https://rumble.com/v1m2wo8-ep-169.1-summer-and-fall-of-2019.-too-juul-for-flu.html
Thank you!
Thank you for sharing. I have heard as far back as 2018.
So what does this mean??
I guess it means there is some cross-reactivity due to previous infection with other coronaviruses.
Yes, coronaviruses of other varieties have been around for a very long time. https://youtu.be/WLILmWZXGRg The common cold is a Corona virus.
It's saying that T cells may defend against covid-19, and not just antibodies. T cells have longer term memories.
https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/covid-19-immunity-test-inventor-its-not-just-about-antibodies/
What does this mean?
It means that the Coronavirus is very common. It’s been around for a very long time. The common cold is a coronavirus.
https://youtu.be/WLILmWZXGRg
Thank you for explaining this
You are welcome.
For us laymen and women- please tell us what this means. Thank you 🙏
See above comment.
SARS-CoV-2 (or a cororonavirus similar to that) circulated among us before the "Wuhan outbreak". There is plenty of evidence the outbreak started really well before Dec of -19. See my reply to Potatodots a couple of minutes ago for additional info.
Coronavirus is also the cause of the common cold. So pretty much everyone has some T cell memory response to part of it.
What does this mean?
See above comment.
Yeah. But I want to know the dates of testing and collecting of samples.
I don’t see it. And where did these people live. Might be totally useless info but I want more details. Lol.
I just want to know out of curiosity.
Me too. They said 2-9 months before the pandemic. I'd have appreciated dates!
That’s what I was also wondering.
They have always LIED to us, they have never ever told us the truth, and they are Lying now but we cannot wait 20 years to find out the truth from the past, because we may not be here, and some of us won't... Please watch be fore 9PM..
https://go2.propaganda-exposed.com/docuseries/episode-4/
There is a mountain of evidence of early circulation of SARS-CoV-2 (a repost my reply here for better visibility).
A mountain of circumstantial evidence:
https://daoyu15.substack.com/p/mountains-of-circumstantial-evidence
Italy:
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220830/Italian-study-finds-SARS-CoV-2-in-clinical-samples-collected-before-December-2019.aspx
http://adeno-news.com/2022/07/30/mystery-deepens-over-early-sars-cov-2-spread-as-autopsied-patients-in-italy-test-positive/
http://adeno-news.com/2022/09/16/strongest-evidence-yet-of-sars-cov-2-specific-antibodies-found-in-apuila-southern-italy/
Boston, US:
http://adeno-news.com/2022/08/07/mystery-deepens-over-early-sars-cov-2-circulation-as-antigens-found-in-pre-pandemic-samples-in-boston/
UK:
https://metro.co.uk/2020/09/09/grandad-84-first-to-die-of-coronavirus-in-uk-fell-ill-two-weeks-before-christmas-13244673/
The deer in Northern US and Canada were also positive before (they were not affected by the Wuhan spike like the most of the wild animals)
This video/podcast provides the best presentation on the origins and the best analysis of open sources I've ever seen (you can start at ~6 mins):
https://rumble.com/v1m2wo8-ep-169.1-summer-and-fall-of-2019.-too-juul-for-flu.html
For those asking, it's saying that T cells may defend against covid-19, and not just antibodies. T cells have longer term memories.
https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/covid-19-immunity-test-inventor-its-not-just-about-antibodies/