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David Dresden's avatar

ANW I love your comment and I agree with you. I have read that RFK says he wants to have placebo controlled studies before shots can be approved, just like medicines. And he wants transparency on shot ingredients and toxicity. So I think he will use this to convince Trump to stop some shots, but realistically not all. Hey, it’s still up to us, we the people, to do our own research before we take any intervention. Based on all my research, I personally will never take any shot again. Did not take the COVID shots thank god, but have taken shots before then. So I have really learned my lesson over the last five years.

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Dr. Paul Alexander's avatar

loved it so much I report it here: ANW I love your comment and I agree with you. I have read that RFK says he wants to have placebo controlled studies before shots can be approved, just like medicines. And he wants transparency on shot ingredients and toxicity. So I think he will use this to convince Trump to stop some shots, but realistically not all. Hey, it’s still up to us, we the people, to do our own research before we take any intervention. Based on all my research, I personally will never take any shot again. Did not take the COVID shots thank god, but have taken shots before then. So I have really learned my lesson over the last five years.

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Bulwark's avatar

" Hey, it’s still up to us, we the people, to do our own research before we take any intervention. "

It should be. But its not, unfortunately.

You are excluded from day-care centers, kindergarten, schools etc. if you dont get all the shots or have exceptions.

Its the sad reality.

The insanity didnt start 4 years ago, it goes back decades and encompasses all vaccines.

They exclude you from entering restaurants without your mRNA shots, but then again, they also exclude from kindergarten etc without "traditional" vaccines (which are still unnatural products). You are human, not tech. Soon to be changed.

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Hans Stein's avatar

Yes, even more than a hundred years. People were incarcerated in Massachusetts and the state was vindicated by the Supreme Court.

Jacobson vs. Massachusetts, 1905

https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16169198038706839183

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Bulwark's avatar

Right this Supreme Court case is insanity. I have to read about it more extensively.

Also:

"The authority of the State to enact this statute is to referred to what is commonly called the police power — a power which the State did not surrender when becoming a member of the Union under the Constitution."

Understand police power. Also understand the comming merger of Federal government or state government force and TECH (which includes mRNA, gene-therapy etc.).

"he defendant insists that his liberty is invaded when the State subjects him to fine or imprisonment for neglecting or refusing to submit to vaccination; that a compulsory vaccination law is unreasonable, arbitrary and oppressive, and, therefore, hostile to the inherent right of every freeman to care for his own body and health in such way as to him seems best; and that the execution of such a law against one who objects to vaccination, no matter for what reason, is nothing short of an assault upon his person. But the liberty secured by the Constitution of the United States to every person within its jurisdiction does not import an absolute right in each person to be, at all times and in all circumstances, wholly freed from restraint. There are manifold restraints to which every person is necessarily subject for the common good. On any other basis organized society could not exist with safety to its members. Society based on the rule that each one is a law unto himself would soon be confronted with disorder and anarchy. Real liberty for all could not exist under the operation of a principle which recognizes the right of each individual person to use his own, whether in respect of his person or his property, regardless of the injury that may be done to others. This court has more than once recognized it as a fundamental principle that "persons and property are subjected to all kinds of restraints and burdens, in order to secure the general comfort, health, and prosperity of the State; of the perfect right of the legislature to do which no question ever was, or upon acknowledged general principles ever can be made, so far as natural persons are concerned." Railroad Co. v. Husen, 95 U.S. 465, 471; Missouri, Kansas & Texas Ry. Co. v. Haber, 169 U.S. 613, 628, 629; Thorpe v. Rutland & Burlington R.R., 27 Vermont, 140, 148. In Crowley v. Christensen, 137 U.S. 86, 89, we said: "The possession and enjoyment of all rights are subject to such reasonable conditions as may be deemed by the governing authority of the country essential to the safety, health, peace, good order and morals of the community. Even liberty

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*27 itself, the greatest of all rights, is not unrestricted license to act according to one's own will. It is only freedom from restraint under conditions essential to the equal enjoyment of the same right by others. It is then liberty regulated by law." In the constitution of Massachusetts adopted in 1780 it was laid down as a fundamental principle of the social compact that the whole people covenants with each citizen, and each citizen with the whole people, that all shall be governed by certain laws for "the common good," and that government is instituted "for the common good, for the protection, safety, prosperity and happiness of the people, and not for the profit, honor or private interests of any one man, family or class of men." The good and welfare of the Commonwealth, of which the legislature is primarily the judge, is the basis on which the police power rests in Massachusetts. Commonwealth v. Alger, 7 Cush. 53, 84."

Fake arguments (red-herring, straw-men) + no (real) science. Legit foundations... to restrict your freedoms.

Courts around the world sell human rights for whole sale, so it seems.

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AwakeNotWoke's avatar

Yes it's the sad reality that many of the American people still love their shots!

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Hans Stein's avatar

It has become a sort of ritual of upbringing, an initiation into the blessings of modern medicine, a misunderstanding and an utter superstition.

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AwakeNotWoke's avatar

Thank you David. We are on the same page on this issue.

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