BREAKING! Trump immune, SCOTUS rules Trump is immune from any actions as POTUS but not unofficial actions! MAGA! Any POTUS is immune from criminal prosecution once conducting government business, 6-3
BREAKING! Trump immune, SCOTUS rules Trump is immune from any actions as POTUS but not unofficial actions! MAGA! Any POTUS is immune from criminal prosecution once conducting government business, 6-3
John Roberts wrote opinion that Presidents have ABSOLUTE immunity...I love it but Biden and Obama may get off, and this is the problem...is it over for Jack Smith? I need to read more, so stand by
I don’t read it your way. Immunity for any Presidential decision and action. IE Obama can’t be held liable for assassination of two American citizens by drone, as he did. But Trump being blackmailed by that evil hag and paying her off through a lawyer….is that anything to do with being President? I don’t think so.
we are not legal minds here and no doubt it too is written to confuse but IMO what I read is that any action as POTUS as part of his duty as POTUS...carries immunity...not for unofficial business which makes sense...
Is the Stormy Daniels payoff official business? It was part of his election campaign. Could that be considered official business? Maybe. First time ever the blackmailed party goes to prison and the blackmailer gets lauded as a heroine.
IMO this ruling is a great day for the constitution...but he was not POTUS while the campaign was happening so this ruling to me, I am no expert in law, but does not apply to Stormy...the tragedy is they are making the shit up to get him...the Bragg crook etc.
It was revealed that Cohen was who had the affair with her and he set Trump up with a bogus sham. Trump was paying him for legal services supposedly for the "hush money" during his campaign. He never admitted to having an affair with or ever being with her. Since Cohen was proven several times to be lying and even convicted of it, I tend to believe this was the case rather than what the lawyers/MSM put out there.
The best part is they said it all has to go back to court to determine whether each of the so called charges are with or without immunity. That won’t happen before the election. That is my reading.
just trying to understand your p.o.v.-if the men were killed while in service, that is a no brainer-however -if non-combattants are killed in a war zone, that is the flip of a coin, if they were Deliberately killed as the 5 Reuters camera crew who were ripped to shred by our verty own fucking wise guys in a huey who were laughing as they killed these men working for a living ( That photo is what got the US state Dep rilled up against wikin leaks and assange -here was an actual murder by us army a.f on camera- they could not run or hide-I will bet we paid a handsome death claim to reuters- the cash wasn’t important
GETTING CAUGHT was the tip of the spear-- Like Bush and Cheny and the Neo Cons
killed several thousands 3900 in the WTC (9-11) and Garland gave them a free pass-
As long as we reward Glvt murder -there will be Gov Murder-
Ahhh, yes ... I had heard. This ruling **supports** my hypothesis! Let me refresh you on this:
The (Globalist Cabal) powers that be are able to take out anyone - ANYONE!! - that they want to. "Taking out" a person can be accomplished in a number of ways. Do you doubt that?
In a nutshell, my hypothesis is that Trump is actually one of 'them' - not one of us.
Based on my hypothesis, I had *predicted* that Trump would (seemingly) go through hell -- a hell that was carefully orchestrated with many obstacles, one after another - to give the nation and the world the view that THEY want - that Trump is one of us, not one of them ... that we can 100% trust Trump.
Sympathy, loyalty, admiration and similar sentiments would overflow as Trump took blow after blow, yet not go down. Then, in a "triumphant climax", Trump would emerge unscathed from all of the "attacks", he would win the POTUS election, and once again sit in the Oval Office in January 2025. The Cabal would have THEIR man back in office.
What would demolish my hypothesis? A number of things. Trump could have been imprisoned for 20 years without ever getting out. Trump could have been assassinated. Trump could lose the November elections and fade as a wannabe into memory. Those are a few examples, there are others.
Instead, no matter what has been thrown at Trump, he comes out alive and well, with the number of followers increasing after each "victory". Hmm ...
It's too early to tell, but my hypothesis stands firm. Last, I'll be the first to declare my hypothesis null and falsified the instant that somethings shows that to be the case. That day has not yet arrived.
Thank you for that reply, Rust - I appreciate it. The usual response I get is one of anger and contempt. I mean, "Who would dare suggest that Trump is NOT the Savior on a White Horse", right?
Instead, I look at facts, evidence, and actions. Words - which Trump and most politicians are very good at - are belched out a-plenty, but when it comes to decisive, significant ACTIONS, those are MIA.
One clear example of that is Hillary Clinton, whom Trump praised and applauded AFTER Trump was sworn-in as POTUS, after a year of promising to the world that he would "lock her up!!" if he were President. Instead, Trump did NOTHING. Hmmm...
I see a lot of that 'he will ride in on his steed and save us' commentary. That's a fantasy and at this point in my life I don't do fantasies. Expressing anger and contempt at what you've said is living with my head in the sand, which I don't do either. Your theory is not easily dismissed.
We need to see a whole lot more of walk-the-walk with Trump and I agree with you that it's been mostly talk-the-talk. That being said, he is light years better than Biden, if only for the for the <HOPE> that he doesn't hate America and wish to see it brought to its knees as we have seen with Biden and Obama et al.
Of the two choices we have, at this point all we can do is cross our fingers, pull that R lever, and hope that Trump has no malevolent intent (WHO, WEF, UN, etc etc).
Agreed. All I ask for is a critical, open mind. Look at facts, evidence and actions. Dismiss *words* -- words are cheap. If afterwards the hypothesis falls then so be it. So far, it remains standing. As for "Trump is the best option", that's actually scary. If the "best" option has done many of the things that Trump has, AND failed to do many of the things that Trump could and should have done, then we're in for a heap of trouble. I always remind people that "The lesser of two evils" is still an EVIL (it's just a 'smaller' one).
Very strong hypothesis, and in our day and age anything is likely, has either one of you ever seen a video called Trump Taking Down the Cabal, I had it saved at one point but it disappeared out of my library of saved videos, he truly has dirt on every political foreign leader, by what the video showed.
Truth be told, I hope that my hypothesis is completely wrong. It would be nice to have someone at Trump's level on our side.
That said, the facts and evidence cannot be ignored. Trump has done much, and also failed to do much, that someone on our side wouldn't have hesitated. Then there's Operation Warp Speed, including the tens of billions of dollars that Trump gave to Big Pharma with everything that has followed until today.
There's simply too much to have blind faith in Donald Trump.
I had heard of the video you mention, but when I went to find it I could not.
The President has absolute immunity from liability for civil damages arising from any official action taken while in office.
The separation of powers principle gives rise to absolute immunity, which is an important matter of public policy. The President has greater
protections than governors and other officials, who have qualified immunity, since he holds a unique position in the structure of government and has
uniquely important duties. The distractions caused by defending a civil lawsuit would improperly distract the President from fulfilling his
executive function, which would undermine the government more broadly. There is no cause for concern that the President will be above the law, since
impeachment and other processes impose checks on his powers.
NOW WHY WOULD A 72 YEAR OLD BILLIONAIRE WANT TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT?
WHAT COULD HE GAIN FROM SUCH A MOVE?
DID HE ENRICH HIMSELF WHILE IN OFFICE? NO HIS NET WORTH ACTUALLY DECREASED BY 2.1 BILLION.
YOU HYPOTHESIS IS PURE BULLSHIT BASED ON YOUR OWN HATRED AND IGNORANCE!
OBAMA HAD THE CIA SPY ON HIM, THEN THEY USED THE FAKE RUSSIAN COLLUSION BULLSHIT, THE PHONY UKRAINE IMPEACHMENT, AND THE J6 COMMITTEE ON FAKE INSURRECTION. FOUR UNCONSTITUTIONAL INDICTMENTS. SEVERAL LAWSUITS TOTALING HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. LEGAL FEES UP THE ASS AND YOU SIT THERE WITH YOUR INSANE HYPOTHESIS? PLEASE USE YOUR HEAD FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN HOLDING UP YOUR HAIR!
Clearly you do not know much about human nature. With VERY few exceptions, the rich and powerful are forever seeking MORE wealth and/or power - it's NEVER enough. Then there's also the self-preservation aspect. Most people in that group are cowards and would do anything to preserve their own life - even toss grandma under a bus. Those 2 points (there are others) likely answer your questions about the 72-year-old. I wish you had something of substance to offer here but, sadly, you don't. Go haunt somewhere else.
3 "Justices" in the highest court apparently don't know, or don't care, or both, about presidential immunity. It isn't rocket science. Just continues to stink up our society with aerosols of global control.
Nevertheless, so happy 6 agreed - because they can read.
thats what I wrote prior...a win for 45 means a loss too...for many bad shit was done by many POTUS prior and they too are absolved...I am not a legal scholar but that is my first blush
Biden for taking bribes through his son is not a Presidential action. Obama assassinated a US citizen then the next day assassinated his 16 year old US born son. I think that is now not indictable.
I don’t think so. Obama assassinated Al Awlaki. Made a big fuss over his extra judicial act, claimed a big victory and went in the next day and killed his American 16 year old son! No one said he did anything wrong. But he could say ‘intel said they were planning a terrorist attack on US soil.’ Trump could not make that claim about Biden. Or Obama.
OBAMA WILL WEAR THE BONNET OF SHAME FOR PRODUCING SUCH A FUCKING LOSER LIKE BIDEN-- \AND LISTEN HUNTER AND JOES BROTHER AND THE ENTIRE FUCKING FAMILY WILL GO ON TRIAL FOR TREASON ( trading with the enemy) and the RICO act will remove all the money wired fictititious accounts--and there may be more
IF THE FAMILY MEMBERS PARTOOK OF THE CONSPIRACY THEY ARE NOT IMMUNE-
Lest we forget that 3 of the 9 dissented - WTF? One of them even thinks the immunity protects POTUS if he decides to order a drone strike on US Citizens. That would not be an official act, it would be an unlawful order - kind of like the shot. Anyone that followed that order would be subject to criminal charges.
Prosecuting a public official after they leave office is what brought down the Roman Republic. Cesar crossed the Rubicon because he had no choice, they were going to put him in jail once his term as Consul ended. The senate was out of control and also served as a judicial body. While many believe the Republic fell long before then because of structural issues in government between the Tribune of the Plebs, the Senate, Consuls, and the Army; however, it was objectified when Cesar assumed the role of Emperor.
Best news!!! Again , thank you for all that you do Doc! We love you here in Italy! God bless ! Things are turning around ever so slowly but it’s happening!
Yes, a big win for totalitarianism and fascism! Presidents are not above the law. In fact the law is there to ensure they do NOT overstep their bounds but fascists hate regulations. Corporatism is fascism and that is Trump--the living swamp he once swore to get rid of. One of his very big lies.
WE NEED TO FORCE CONGRESS TO ABROGATE THE “ PATRIOT ACT” AS IT WAS BORNE OF A HUGE CRIMINAL ACT INVOLVING THE INTEL AGENCIES-AFTER WHICH MARTIAL LAW HAS TO BE ABROGATED AND THE CONSTITUTION HAS TO BE PLACED BACK IN FORCE AND EFFECT - 45 NEEDS RE CONVENE CONGRESS TO A SPECIAL SESSION - WHERE THEY ALL HAVE TO RE COMMIT - TO THE REPUBLIC
FIRST AND ONLY-AFTER WHICH THE ENTIRE FABRIC OF THE DEEP STATE NEEDS TO BE RIPPED APART-ITS A HUGE UNDERTAKING - BUT 45 MUST DO THIS OR WE HAVE NO REPUBLIC
I don’t read it your way. Immunity for any Presidential decision and action. IE Obama can’t be held liable for assassination of two American citizens by drone, as he did. But Trump being blackmailed by that evil hag and paying her off through a lawyer….is that anything to do with being President? I don’t think so.
we are not legal minds here and no doubt it too is written to confuse but IMO what I read is that any action as POTUS as part of his duty as POTUS...carries immunity...not for unofficial business which makes sense...
Is the Stormy Daniels payoff official business? It was part of his election campaign. Could that be considered official business? Maybe. First time ever the blackmailed party goes to prison and the blackmailer gets lauded as a heroine.
IMO this ruling is a great day for the constitution...but he was not POTUS while the campaign was happening so this ruling to me, I am no expert in law, but does not apply to Stormy...the tragedy is they are making the shit up to get him...the Bragg crook etc.
I still haven't been able to understand why Mr Trump picked Stormy, he must of had a friend with discreet girls on their cell phone.
Maybe he wasn't thinking right due to his marital problems.
If Stormy did that to the Clintons, she'd be dog food long ago.
It was revealed that Cohen was who had the affair with her and he set Trump up with a bogus sham. Trump was paying him for legal services supposedly for the "hush money" during his campaign. He never admitted to having an affair with or ever being with her. Since Cohen was proven several times to be lying and even convicted of it, I tend to believe this was the case rather than what the lawyers/MSM put out there.
Thank for clearing that up.
Trump didn't seem like the type of man.to make a mistake like that.
The best part is they said it all has to go back to court to determine whether each of the so called charges are with or without immunity. That won’t happen before the election. That is my reading.
Right...they also delayed the NY sentencing until 9/18...interesting date.
YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS, HOWEVER WITH THE AMOUNT AND QUANTITY OF
CRIMINAL ACTS THEY HAVE COMMITTED THE TRUMP LAWYERS WILL HAVE A FIELD DAY -’IT WILL BE WACKAMOLE DAY"
My favorite game
The only good one is Thomas. Read his opinion. He went further than the rest of the majority.
just trying to understand your p.o.v.-if the men were killed while in service, that is a no brainer-however -if non-combattants are killed in a war zone, that is the flip of a coin, if they were Deliberately killed as the 5 Reuters camera crew who were ripped to shred by our verty own fucking wise guys in a huey who were laughing as they killed these men working for a living ( That photo is what got the US state Dep rilled up against wikin leaks and assange -here was an actual murder by us army a.f on camera- they could not run or hide-I will bet we paid a handsome death claim to reuters- the cash wasn’t important
GETTING CAUGHT was the tip of the spear-- Like Bush and Cheny and the Neo Cons
killed several thousands 3900 in the WTC (9-11) and Garland gave them a free pass-
As long as we reward Glvt murder -there will be Gov Murder-
Kind of a nothing burger ruling, but I will take it
yes...we knew...
Ahhh, yes ... I had heard. This ruling **supports** my hypothesis! Let me refresh you on this:
The (Globalist Cabal) powers that be are able to take out anyone - ANYONE!! - that they want to. "Taking out" a person can be accomplished in a number of ways. Do you doubt that?
In a nutshell, my hypothesis is that Trump is actually one of 'them' - not one of us.
Based on my hypothesis, I had *predicted* that Trump would (seemingly) go through hell -- a hell that was carefully orchestrated with many obstacles, one after another - to give the nation and the world the view that THEY want - that Trump is one of us, not one of them ... that we can 100% trust Trump.
Sympathy, loyalty, admiration and similar sentiments would overflow as Trump took blow after blow, yet not go down. Then, in a "triumphant climax", Trump would emerge unscathed from all of the "attacks", he would win the POTUS election, and once again sit in the Oval Office in January 2025. The Cabal would have THEIR man back in office.
What would demolish my hypothesis? A number of things. Trump could have been imprisoned for 20 years without ever getting out. Trump could have been assassinated. Trump could lose the November elections and fade as a wannabe into memory. Those are a few examples, there are others.
Instead, no matter what has been thrown at Trump, he comes out alive and well, with the number of followers increasing after each "victory". Hmm ...
It's too early to tell, but my hypothesis stands firm. Last, I'll be the first to declare my hypothesis null and falsified the instant that somethings shows that to be the case. That day has not yet arrived.
Your hypotheses is plausible. Seems like everything is a psyop these days. My trust is gone.
I haven't been able to shake the feeling that we're being led around by the nose for quite some time.
Thank you for that reply, Rust - I appreciate it. The usual response I get is one of anger and contempt. I mean, "Who would dare suggest that Trump is NOT the Savior on a White Horse", right?
Instead, I look at facts, evidence, and actions. Words - which Trump and most politicians are very good at - are belched out a-plenty, but when it comes to decisive, significant ACTIONS, those are MIA.
One clear example of that is Hillary Clinton, whom Trump praised and applauded AFTER Trump was sworn-in as POTUS, after a year of promising to the world that he would "lock her up!!" if he were President. Instead, Trump did NOTHING. Hmmm...
I see a lot of that 'he will ride in on his steed and save us' commentary. That's a fantasy and at this point in my life I don't do fantasies. Expressing anger and contempt at what you've said is living with my head in the sand, which I don't do either. Your theory is not easily dismissed.
We need to see a whole lot more of walk-the-walk with Trump and I agree with you that it's been mostly talk-the-talk. That being said, he is light years better than Biden, if only for the for the <HOPE> that he doesn't hate America and wish to see it brought to its knees as we have seen with Biden and Obama et al.
Of the two choices we have, at this point all we can do is cross our fingers, pull that R lever, and hope that Trump has no malevolent intent (WHO, WEF, UN, etc etc).
Agreed. All I ask for is a critical, open mind. Look at facts, evidence and actions. Dismiss *words* -- words are cheap. If afterwards the hypothesis falls then so be it. So far, it remains standing. As for "Trump is the best option", that's actually scary. If the "best" option has done many of the things that Trump has, AND failed to do many of the things that Trump could and should have done, then we're in for a heap of trouble. I always remind people that "The lesser of two evils" is still an EVIL (it's just a 'smaller' one).
The best of bad choices.
That's how I see Trump.
It's sad that's what the illuminati gave us. But with Trump we will have a Civil War, fast enough to survive, the other guy will destroy all of us.
Very strong hypothesis, and in our day and age anything is likely, has either one of you ever seen a video called Trump Taking Down the Cabal, I had it saved at one point but it disappeared out of my library of saved videos, he truly has dirt on every political foreign leader, by what the video showed.
Truth be told, I hope that my hypothesis is completely wrong. It would be nice to have someone at Trump's level on our side.
That said, the facts and evidence cannot be ignored. Trump has done much, and also failed to do much, that someone on our side wouldn't have hesitated. Then there's Operation Warp Speed, including the tens of billions of dollars that Trump gave to Big Pharma with everything that has followed until today.
There's simply too much to have blind faith in Donald Trump.
I had heard of the video you mention, but when I went to find it I could not.
Your hypothesis is flawed. It ignores the Constitution. There is precedence for the courts ruling:
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/457/731/
The President has absolute immunity from liability for civil damages arising from any official action taken while in office.
The separation of powers principle gives rise to absolute immunity, which is an important matter of public policy. The President has greater
protections than governors and other officials, who have qualified immunity, since he holds a unique position in the structure of government and has
uniquely important duties. The distractions caused by defending a civil lawsuit would improperly distract the President from fulfilling his
executive function, which would undermine the government more broadly. There is no cause for concern that the President will be above the law, since
impeachment and other processes impose checks on his powers.
NOW WHY WOULD A 72 YEAR OLD BILLIONAIRE WANT TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT?
WHAT COULD HE GAIN FROM SUCH A MOVE?
DID HE ENRICH HIMSELF WHILE IN OFFICE? NO HIS NET WORTH ACTUALLY DECREASED BY 2.1 BILLION.
YOU HYPOTHESIS IS PURE BULLSHIT BASED ON YOUR OWN HATRED AND IGNORANCE!
OBAMA HAD THE CIA SPY ON HIM, THEN THEY USED THE FAKE RUSSIAN COLLUSION BULLSHIT, THE PHONY UKRAINE IMPEACHMENT, AND THE J6 COMMITTEE ON FAKE INSURRECTION. FOUR UNCONSTITUTIONAL INDICTMENTS. SEVERAL LAWSUITS TOTALING HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. LEGAL FEES UP THE ASS AND YOU SIT THERE WITH YOUR INSANE HYPOTHESIS? PLEASE USE YOUR HEAD FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN HOLDING UP YOUR HAIR!
Clearly you do not know much about human nature. With VERY few exceptions, the rich and powerful are forever seeking MORE wealth and/or power - it's NEVER enough. Then there's also the self-preservation aspect. Most people in that group are cowards and would do anything to preserve their own life - even toss grandma under a bus. Those 2 points (there are others) likely answer your questions about the 72-year-old. I wish you had something of substance to offer here but, sadly, you don't. Go haunt somewhere else.
He is. Just look at how well he dances when any jew plays a fiddel
And the Left is already all over social media saying "Yay! Biden can order the Military to drone Trump!"
Well, no - they are sort of ignoring the "conducting government business" part. Legitimate government business.
3 "Justices" in the highest court apparently don't know, or don't care, or both, about presidential immunity. It isn't rocket science. Just continues to stink up our society with aerosols of global control.
Nevertheless, so happy 6 agreed - because they can read.
IF IT FREES TRUMP TO CAMPAIGN ITS ALL OVER HE WILL TEAR THEM TO SHREDS-
yes
This is horrible. Now you all cannot go after Biden or Obama.
thats what I wrote prior...a win for 45 means a loss too...for many bad shit was done by many POTUS prior and they too are absolved...I am not a legal scholar but that is my first blush
Absolutely right.
Biden for taking bribes through his son is not a Presidential action. Obama assassinated a US citizen then the next day assassinated his 16 year old US born son. I think that is now not indictable.
Which means that Trump can assassinated both Obama & Biden as official actions, can’t be touched.
I don’t think so. Obama assassinated Al Awlaki. Made a big fuss over his extra judicial act, claimed a big victory and went in the next day and killed his American 16 year old son! No one said he did anything wrong. But he could say ‘intel said they were planning a terrorist attack on US soil.’ Trump could not make that claim about Biden. Or Obama.
OBAMA WILL WEAR THE BONNET OF SHAME FOR PRODUCING SUCH A FUCKING LOSER LIKE BIDEN-- \AND LISTEN HUNTER AND JOES BROTHER AND THE ENTIRE FUCKING FAMILY WILL GO ON TRIAL FOR TREASON ( trading with the enemy) and the RICO act will remove all the money wired fictititious accounts--and there may be more
IF THE FAMILY MEMBERS PARTOOK OF THE CONSPIRACY THEY ARE NOT IMMUNE-
DR JILL WILL HAVE HER ASS IN JAIL-
hhhmmm, nice sharing, this may well be of utility...no doubt they are not...excellent
Great news, indeed, for those of us who believe in the rule of law!
yes
And this immunizes Biden. Official acts and that rot.
Do as Trump and do not celebrate good news with alcohol, you need to last.
Lest we forget that 3 of the 9 dissented - WTF? One of them even thinks the immunity protects POTUS if he decides to order a drone strike on US Citizens. That would not be an official act, it would be an unlawful order - kind of like the shot. Anyone that followed that order would be subject to criminal charges.
Prosecuting a public official after they leave office is what brought down the Roman Republic. Cesar crossed the Rubicon because he had no choice, they were going to put him in jail once his term as Consul ended. The senate was out of control and also served as a judicial body. While many believe the Republic fell long before then because of structural issues in government between the Tribune of the Plebs, the Senate, Consuls, and the Army; however, it was objectified when Cesar assumed the role of Emperor.
The only thing missing is biden’s farewell, hopefully very soon! YAY FOR THE GOOD GUYS!
Best news!!! Again , thank you for all that you do Doc! We love you here in Italy! God bless ! Things are turning around ever so slowly but it’s happening!
Yes, a big win for totalitarianism and fascism! Presidents are not above the law. In fact the law is there to ensure they do NOT overstep their bounds but fascists hate regulations. Corporatism is fascism and that is Trump--the living swamp he once swore to get rid of. One of his very big lies.
https://substack.com/@lagatapolitica/note/c-60598744?r=1731m3&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
the ruling was critical, it has nurtured the agencies, thank God...these are among the most corrupt.
WE NEED TO FORCE CONGRESS TO ABROGATE THE “ PATRIOT ACT” AS IT WAS BORNE OF A HUGE CRIMINAL ACT INVOLVING THE INTEL AGENCIES-AFTER WHICH MARTIAL LAW HAS TO BE ABROGATED AND THE CONSTITUTION HAS TO BE PLACED BACK IN FORCE AND EFFECT - 45 NEEDS RE CONVENE CONGRESS TO A SPECIAL SESSION - WHERE THEY ALL HAVE TO RE COMMIT - TO THE REPUBLIC
FIRST AND ONLY-AFTER WHICH THE ENTIRE FABRIC OF THE DEEP STATE NEEDS TO BE RIPPED APART-ITS A HUGE UNDERTAKING - BUT 45 MUST DO THIS OR WE HAVE NO REPUBLIC
Agree, agree, agree👍👍