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djean111's avatar

Just my opinion here - it looked to me like Ramaswamy considered that, in a way, he had been elected president without having to have had to go through that messy campaigning and electing stuff. Because he considers himself so much smarter than everybody else. The arrogance was dripping from him. He only meant well for his own bank accounts and interests.

Clue for me - sneering that Americans are too untrained to get those h-!b jobs, and then advocating, not for more help to be given with STEM education, but for getting rid of the department of education entirely - give me a break. Throwing down the race card, as if American programmers et al. would have been happy to lose their jobs to, say, Norwegians and Peruvians. Very cheap and cynical playing of the race card. Same for Musk. Looked to me like they considered that they could run the parts of the country they needed for profit and power's sake without actually being elected. Trump was just another Musk investment.

I have always felt that there is no one more dangerous than a smart person who considers that everyone else is stupid. They just go ahead and do whatever they want, and let the rest of us take the blame for and deal with the fallout.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

I didn't realize he called for getting rid of the department of education. That is one thing I support wholeheartedly. Get the federal government out of the business of indoctrinating our children.

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djean111's avatar

I see your point, honestly, but the states are doing a shit job, too. Maybe instead of an all-encompassing education department, a department dedicated to STEM? I hate to think of young people never having a good shot at jobs just because of what state they were born in. Re-vamp the DOE to deal with ONLY education, not attitudes and whatever.

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Ronda's avatar

My state is doing a wonderful job, so I disagree with you.

I homeschooled, from where I stand, we need new paradigms on educating children, including money for homeschooling. That means parents have to get intimately involved in educating their children like they did in the old days. People from my grandmother‘s time wrote perfect cursive, and were highly educated. My grandmother earned her associate’s degree in business in 1919, 1920..

We are taught incorrect history about 19th century and early 20th century America. Our American culture is devolving, not evolving. On purpose too. We will advance again if we separate ourselves from big brother.

I’m highly educated, and I attended a public school before the department of education, and received an outstanding classical education there! This was right before desegregation, which destroyed the public schools I attended.. Desegregation was implemented to destroy the European Caucasian Christian American communities and the Black Christian American communities, which were thriving at that time in many places in America unbeknownst to the mainstream media (Marxist Zionist controlled.)

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Margaret Shattuck's avatar

There goes that Zionist thing again. Totally misinformed.

Actually, things went south when they took GOD out of the schools. The Bible should be taught in schools. That's how kids learn right from wrong, and develop a moral compass. That's been pushed out, and look what happened. Our kids have no moral compass at all, and they are the worst, most badly behaved kids I've ever seen. No respect for anything. They vandalize everything. They disrupt constantly. They constantly disrespect the teachers and others. Why even teach?

I'm in my late 60s, and when I went to school we said prayers every morning, and we sung hymns, and we also learned the Bible. We didn't study evolution. No kid in my schools would have dreamed of behaving like the kids these days. They would have had hell to pay.

I also homeschooled my son. I saw how things were going in public school, and wanted no part of it. Best thing I ever did. My son is now a very decent young man with a good moral compass. He knows how to respect people, and respects our laws, and knows GOD.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Yes Margaret, you did the right thing by homeschooling your son. And yes, the marxist agenda began years ago to remove the Bible from public schools. The Federal Dept. of Education was never needed, and was instituted for the sole purpose of pushing the socialist agenda on students nationwide, as well as intentionally dumbing down our children by removing the emphasis on actual learning and the ability to think and reason. In other words, indoctrination.

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Steveo's avatar

Yes - y’all should watch the documentary -Agenda: Grinding America Down. It’s a great snapshot into how they implemented the plan back in the 70s (or was that the 90s?) to implement this Marxist takeover of America.

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djean111's avatar

But not everybody lives in your state, is my point. And certainly not everybody is as fabulously equipped to homeschool as you are.

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Ronda's avatar

So what, if you read my other post, then you know that I don’t subscribe into having big brother educate your children, that would include any government, so what’s your point?

Quit asking other people to raise your children and educate them. Find a good way, that’s what adults do. Enough said.

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Ronda's avatar

If you want good public education back in your state, then you lead the charge! Don’t worry about the other states, take care of where you live. Get school choice legislation enacted. Get legislation that reimburses homeschoolers enacted. Do this where you live, start a grassroots movement. Be the change.

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Margaret Shattuck's avatar

States can do the job just fine. It was Georgie Bush who took it to the Feds and started the DOE. Education went down fast after that. Education standards were very high in this country for a very long time. It's because GOD was taken out of our lives, and out of our schools. That's what's wrong. That needs to change.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Wasn't it Carter who started the DOE?

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Margaret Shattuck's avatar

I think it was George Bush, when he started the No Child Left Behind nonsense, but I could be wrong.

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Ronda's avatar

Also check out the Sudbury school education model, it produces wonderful results.

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Margaret Shattuck's avatar

I explain it like this "a smart man without a moral compass". Smart people can do a lot of damage, but one without a moral compass can do exorbitant amounts of damage.

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djean111's avatar

Excellent. Thank you!

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