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Not every neat or pendantic person is a fascist but most fascists are neat and pedantic. I don't know if you've seen my post on the topic Barry so I'll repost it.

By the way, shame about Trump's death. Very, very sad. It hasn't happened yet and so I wish it was a case of the rumours being greatly exaggerated but I've seen these politicians go out rapidly after being hit with the sort of charges Trump is facing.

His immune system will not handle it on top of the preceding Russia, Russia Russia hoax Muelleur Witch Hunt etc etc.

Here's the pedantry-fascism connection:

Most of those who defend vaccine mandates appear to have Hitler's personality disorder, Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder (OCPD; Anakastic Personality Disorder), and in particular the OCPD subtype that Theodore Millon, originator of the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders' personality disorders classification termed "bureaucratic compulsive with narcissistic features." This is the disorder that has driven the bureaucratic incompetence. Understanding it is key to defeating it.

I noted about it previously as follows:

What I think we are up against is OCPD. It's a big part of the reason for the bureaupathology of the vaccine advocates: Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder (OCPD), which is common in the military, where those with the condition tend to be rapidly promoted (e.g., Colonel Russell Williams, convicted serial killer and former Commanding Officer of Canada's largest airforce base), law enforcement (e. g., murderer of George Floyd, Derek Chauvin, Idaho killings suspect Bryan Kohberger), academia and serial killers appears also to be common in public health bureaucrats.

OCPD is a disorder of overcontrol. When dialled up, it's similar to psychopathy, with which it is often comorbid. It's characterised by, among other things, self-righteousness, tyrannical or dictatorial tendencies, perfectionism (especially WRT expectations of others), neatness ("serial killer neat"), punctuality or hyperpunctuality, a tendency sometimes to be a "grammar Nazi," the ability to dial down or turn off empathy, perspective shifting deficits, rigidity, overconscientiousness and enjoyment of creating fear in subordinates. It has links to sadism, especially "enforcing sadism with compulsive features," "tyrannical sadism" and "spineless sadism."

People with the condition are functionally rigid, stubborn and tend to think they are "always right" and that there is only one correct way of doing things, which is their way. Hitler and Ghandi are good examples. Greta Thunberg and those who glue themselves to roads, preventing ambulaces from passing, because they think their cause takes priority, are others. They are angered when they don't get their own way and are overconcerned with ethics and morality. (Hitler was vegetarian and Bryan Kohberger is vegan.)

OCPD individuals are annoyed when proven to be wrong and they double down on their mistakes. Because of their perspective shifting deficits they have trouble with alternative hypothesis generation and are unsuited to be scientists. They are also unsuited for management roles and unsuited to be public health bureaucrats although, due to attention to detail, can make good accountants. A big part of their problem is their perspective taking deficits and cognitive distortions and fallacies in their reasoning. They can do well on tasks requiring attention to detail but they can't readily adjust their perspective to identify and correct for weaknesses in theory or methodology.

They tend to rise to the top in ethics councils, professional associations, regulatory bodies and the military as well as, it appears, the public health bureaucracy. Present them with evidence of vaccine harms and individuals with OCPD can't adjust their perspective or admit their mistakes and instead they just double down, and then seek revenge. Because it's an egosyntonic disorder they have no idea of how fucked up they are and how much harm they cause.

To further understand OCPD, consider the following description of Anthony Fauci by Scott Sturman M.D:

"The mindset of Field Marshal Douglas Haig, World War I’s worst general, springs to mind, when drawing a comparison to Anthony Fauci. By some historical accounts Field Marshal Sir Douglas Haig bears the distinction of WWI’s worst general. He rose to Commander of British Expeditionary Forces and led Allied armies during the slaughter and futility at the battles of the Somme and Passchendaele.

Known for his self confidence and inflexibility, he repeatedly ordered soldiers over the top to “no man’s land” and into the path of German machine guns. No number of casualties or unachieved objectives could dissuade him from his singular approach to combat. Nigel Davies, historian and educator, points out that General Haig was emblematic of the chateau general - dictating and directing but far removed from the battlefield: They were Chateau Generals in approach and in attitude.

They drew lines on maps without adequately considering the terrain, issued impossible instructions without looking at the state of the ground, and ran completely inadequate communications that were far from capable of keeping track of, or controlling, a modern battlefield.

In a similar respect, despite his academic and professional accomplishments, Dr. Anthony Fauci has no background or experience in clinical medicine and is ill equipped to lead the SARS-CoV-2 response. His purview is that of a research scientist and entrenched bureaucrat, who is far removed from patient contact. His career is enmeshed with the pharmaceutical industry, whose financial ties with federal medical regulatory institutions are well described.

Throughout his career he has denied patients easily accessible, inexpensive, and effective treatments in lieu of patented medications with high risk profiles and of dubious efficacy. In 1987 despite overwhelming clinical evidence, he told AIDS activists that the prophylactic use of the common antibiotic Bactrim to treat pneumocystis carnii pneumonia was ineffective and possibly dangerous. Through private donations the company Lymphomed circumvented the NIAID and conducted successful clinical trials.

The delay cost the lives of nearly 17,000 immunocompromised patients.

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Barry Varkel's avatar

Brother ANW,

I never meant to disrespect you or offend you - if you indeed feel that way - with what I wrote below and if psychology is indeed your chosen field/career.

Law's a piece of crap too, for what it's worth.

Keep up your comments - you are most prolific these days.

Your bro

Barry

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AwakeNotWoke's avatar

Not offended Barry.

My father was a lawyer, briefly. I suspect he was disbarred.

My interests are wide ranging and include law, philosophy, psychology, psychiatry, evolutionary biology, politics etc.

Jack of all trades, master of none. I think they're all a load of crap.

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Barry Varkel's avatar

Brother ANW,

You haven't accounted for certain individuals simply being born evil.

I try not to characterise humanity. I've been surprised by individuals who originally turned me off and vice versa. The study of psychology is much like the study of economics - ex post facto BS - it cannot tell me today what will happen tomorrow, only tomorrow happened because yesterday x, y & z was the state of affairs.

I want to stem the tide of sleaze now, not mop up the destruction after it's happened.

So what you say is intellectually curious, but in the real world of now it has no value - well not to me at least.

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Hi Barry, I'm not trying to defend any professional fields or occupations this may originate from but pasted it merely to illustrate a point.

I originally wrote it because people were throwing around words like "psychopath" and "narcissist" on the stacks without knowing what they were talking about when referring to the likes of Fauci, Walensky etc.

To me, it provides an explanation for why the bureaucrats are impervious to reason and cannot be persuaded by data about the vaccines that does not conform to their prejudices.

I've suggested to Steve Kirsch that he consult on thisvpathology in his efforts to improve persuasion with the bureaucrats.

As an aside, I attended a presentation by a Director of Forensic Mental Health called "Personality Disorders in High Functioning Professionals." The other attendees thought it would be about "narcissism."

I had a fair idea it would be about OCPD.

A judge had not long before committed suicide by hanging himself in a forest. The judge was a colleague of a barrister friend who had worked in the same chambers before being appointed to the bench. He struggled to make sense of his death.

The judge had been recalled to the capital and reprimanded due to his behavior in a family law matter where he had verbally abusedc a QC and the non-custodial father.

The death and the disciplining of the judge had been in the news.

I said to the presenter "I believe he most likely had OCPD."

Hev replied:"In 30 years of psychiatry I've met a lot of judges and I've yet to meet one who doesn't have it."

IThat's probably why you haven't been appointed to the bench Barry.

You're too normal.

That plus the fact that you live in South Africa and have integrity.

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Barry Varkel's avatar

Hahaha thanks for the laugh ;))

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