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Brilliant comment by Lakeshore:

I appreciate all this. Though for the life of me I really don’t understand how the murder of 6M brethren gave permission for Irgun Stern and Haganah to displace 1M Palestinian Christian Muslim and non-Zionist Jews during the Nakba, of which 30-50,000 died, and then declare themselves a country, when the Balfour Declaration specially forbade this. Wouldn’t Jews have been much safer migrating to America until some deeper mutual and voluntary agreement could have been arranged with the Arab Nations? It’s not clear to me that Islamic extremism even existed as a defined phenomenon before the 1917 migration started into Palestine. Is there any room at all to ask the question to what extent the political movement known of as Zionism has contributed to bad feelings toward the Jewish people?

https://gingerbreggin.substack.com/p/antisemitism-becomes-personal-to/comment/54416131

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I think this is a super debate to have...thank you for the contribution here.

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there is so much we dont know and we think we do, and key is many come from a good place, they do want things resolved...most of you are...I am humbled that you partake in my stack...for me the key is to not hate another person if your views differ...in fact, for there to be progress, it has to differ...again, coming from a good place

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There never was the murder of 6 million jews. It's a complete jewish lie and it is time for the whole world to know the facts. Stop spreading lies.

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how do you know this? I was not there, nor were you?

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You know things by RESEARCHING and opening your mind to the facts, instead of beLIEving jewish propaganda. There was no jewish holocaust during WW2 and on the contrary, more than 15 million innocent Germans were slaughtered in the most heinous way at the hands of the jews and their alLIES. Please read this and open your mind. You, in particular, have defended these hideous creatures and it is time for that to end. People need to know The Truth. https://birthofanewearthblog.com/jews-are-responsible-for-starting-ww2-and-jews-are-responsible-for-the-slaughter-of-millions-of-innocent-germans/

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I wasn't there and wouldn't know. I quoted someone else. If you're referring to documented evidence that people have faked Holocaust stories, as reported in the New York Times, the Guardian and Der Spiegel, I am aware of some of it. See the newspaper articles at the links.

He Was a Prominent Holocaust Survivor. But His Story Was a Hoax.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/28/books/review-impostor-javier-cercas-enric-marco.html

Man who claimed to have escaped Auschwitz admits he lied for years

Joseph Hirt said he fabricated story of being sent to camp and meeting Nazi doctor Josef Mengele to ‘keep memories alive’ about history of the Holocaust

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/24/holocaust-survivor-lied-joseph-hirt-auschwitz

Journey to the Truth

The Concentration Camp Victim Who Never Was

https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/the-concentration-camp-victim-who-never-was-a-a7c50dd3-773f-4697-b9c0-e40618a62e9e

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Exactly. Jews lie and then lie some more. You cannot believe anything they tell you.

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I dont think AWN is saying that

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What AWN shared is a drop in the bucket in terms of how deep and how far the jewish lies go. There is a very long trail of never ending lies that continue to this day, including the lie of a "COVID" "pandemic", neither of which ever existed and are a complete jewish fabrication.

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thank you for sharing

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I invite anyone here on either side of the issue to share

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As long as we're all communicating it's a step in the right direction and a education, for those who choose to listen with an open mind.

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Israel occupies it's own land, by international law. What's more, Israel consists of only a tiny 1% of the Arab-Muslim middle east land mass, the Jews have a 3500 year history of occupying Israel, Muslims only have a history of being in Israel from year 638, when they conquered Jerusalem. Why are there not protests against the Muslim conquest of the middle east, and how they killed and drove out Christians and Jews from those vast area's? The "occupiers" are the Muslims.

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Such "selective history", some go so far as saying "Jews killed Christ", if that were true, such a Jew would have to have been the forerunner of the Zionists. ... and just maybe they were, it sounds like something vengeful that those mentioned by Jesus as their "Father was of the Devil" ? ... (in not being a "Christian" by definition, I do not have chapter and verse, only "The Rumor" ) ... I have studied "The Protocols" AND THE WHOLE ISSUE, and any that would deny them know very little about the issue and is just some kind of apologist, much like those that lie about it all ... the latter being very close to evil and headed further down that path.

IMnsHO and E so far.

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Nothing in my comment that isn't true

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Geezus Paul! Anti semitism is the get out of jail card for the occupation, apartheid, imprisonment and genocide of Palestinians. Please write an article about all the horrific pain and torture Palestinians have been subjected. And please quit whining about minor Israeli slights. The disproportionate double standard is nauseating

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Dr. Breggin et al. are writing their opinion as of Jewish descent, I am sharing everything I read, find interesting. If you want me to share you stuff too and us to read widely, send to me...dont attack me. Where in my writing have I ever stated that Israel has the right to or must or should torture or hurt Palestinians or anyone? on either side too? where? what is your solution? ANW seems to be adding to the debate in a constructive way...others too...dont just bitch. we need a solution...

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See my above comments, the Muslims are the occupiers. They have 99% of the middle east, they should be happy with this.

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Are Biden or Fauci satisfied with the amount of money they have? For the greedy, "enough" is never reached.

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"This is the story of how Israel, which ended up in the Middle East, almost ended up in the Kimberley, on the ancestral country of the Miriwoong people."

A neocon on this stack advocated recently for Israel to "wipe out the Muslims." I'm not a fan of the muslim religion but to exterminate more than 24.1% of the world's population, or an estimated total of approximately 1.9 billion people, is utterly impractical. There are 49 muslim majority countries. A better solution is to carve off part of the US and to relocate Israel to that part of North America. As explained in the article at the link there was at one time a plan to create Israel in Australia. A better place is the US. Israel is not safe in the middle east. That's not likely to change. Europe is not suitable. We all saw what happened there. Israel is also not wanted in Asia or Africa. The best way for the US to protect Israel is to be co-located with it. It would take some decades to accomplish but this is an idea whose time has come. Many leading politicians in the US are Jewish, e.g., Schiff, Schumer, Nadler, Wasserman Schultz, Blumenthal, Blinken, Garland, Mayorkas, Nuland and many, many more. Make this happen.

How this part of Australia almost became Israel

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/how-this-part-of-australia-almost-became-israel/yg8nzanl3

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The most hilarious thing ANW, is these Americans take you literally.

Clearly, your irony goes straight over their heads, quite the opposite of the 2,000 pound US paid for bombs dropped onto the heads of poor and desperate ragheads.

I think as a side gig, you could earn some decent coin on an Irony 101 course for the citizens of Uncle Schmuel.

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“Schiff, Shumer, Nadler, Wasserman Schultz, Blumenthal, Blinken, Garland, Mayorkas, Nuland and many, many more. Make this happen.”

Awake? Are these people iI cut and pasted from your above post, part of the problem we’re facing today in America?

Please, inform / educate me on why, as I’ve listened and watched most of those people I cut and pasted from your post, have been undermining America?

If I’m wrong then please let me know why, I have been so blinded by the words and ideologies these people purport?

Thanks Awake for you insight and thoughts.

AJR

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I agree with you, the people named here are IMO like the congressional black caucus, dont more damage to the issue, broke it, inflamed it...the only IMO extremist missing is 'no nads' Nadler...I see where AWN is going with this and agree too yet the people named have harmed USA and harmed IMO any way to fix the Israeli-arab divide...we need real statesmen and women, with no axe to grind, who really want a peaceful long term solution.

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I don't like the ideology of the individuals I listed. However, it's the will of the American people for these people to have power in America. Openly Jewish people are 2.2% of the US general population, 6% of the US House and 9% of the Senate. They make up a much greater % of the US Cabinet.However, Israel's influence is disproportionate to the numbers of Jewish people in the US Congress and Cabinet. During an interview with the Ari Hoffman show on November 01 2021, former President Trump told Mr Hoffman that, historically, “Israel literally owned Congress.”  According to the Pew Research Centre, seven-in-ten Jewish adults identify with or lean toward the Democratic Party,

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what I find interesting is that the members in house and Senate IMO, or maybe I read it wrong, they work against Israel?? or forment discord??? IMO the dem Jewish members are anti-Israel??? did I get that right?

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Thank you Awake. I’m not convinced the will of the American people, as you mentioned, is true anymore.

I’ve learned more about elections and the corruption within. Understanding both sides have, “skin in the game”, there’s something completely wrong with our election process.

Certainly you or I won’t solve such a convoluted and or broken system, but there’s certainly something about why we’re witnessing the demise of America.

I’m convinced, America is “up for grabs”, I never thought in my lifetime, so be it. IMO, I don’t believe we’ll see any kind of “Israel-Palestinian” solution.

If in fact that’s the true purpose of the never ending battles in the Middle East? I’m not sure it is, simply my opinion. I’m certainly not an expert. I heard everything from, Hamas tortured woman and burned children alive to Israel has done the same. Somewhere in between is the truth.

After reading your post regarding relocating Israel somewhere in the US got me think about this. If in fact a solution as such happened, I first thought, we’d be opening the door for a direct,

Palestinian - Israeli conflict here, in America? Seems like it’s already happening.

I’m not sure what the answers are anymore. There’s something quite wrong with the direction America has taken over the past three years, all adding up to what I believe will be, our destruction!

“Fundamentally Transform America”!

Is happening right in front of our eyes. I never said nor have I ever believed America was a perfect place. The place I see the ideologues are taking us to, isn’t at all a place I want to go!

Thank you Awake. I appreciate your input and knowledge. Part of the process called “growth”.

AJR

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same here, I learn lots from ANW, you AJR, so many and agree US is circling the drain, and the leadership and direction we need we dont have currently...it was bad before but the last 3 years have made it perilous for USA. USA cannot survive if borders are not closed now. if every bill, law out of the house and senate benefits ONLY America now...it is as if we lit our own funeral pyres...there is lots too I do not understand.

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this was a fascinating piece AJR

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Good God Dr “NOW” was at minimum, 3 years ago! When AwakeNotWoke posted earlier about certain people working to possibly have Israel relocate or section off an area within America, I thought about the potential for America becoming the second Middle East battleground.

Then as I thought about it a lot more, why not I asked myself? When we look at the absolute hatred towards Israel, I’m perplexed as to why. Any “Hatred” is evil, IMO! Downright disgustingly Evil! Humanity has reached a point, IMO, where “We Will Self-Destruct”! Is that what anyone really wants?

I’m sure there are lots of people who would love to eradicate mankind, those are some of the powers we know today! “Narcissistic Psychopaths” for one example. Certainly these people are in every level of power around the world. All they want is to control and manipulate people!

Words, lead to action and I understand the power structures going on today. My message is simple, “Be Careful What You Wish For BHO”! For example.

Ultimately, if human beings can’t control their actions, their anger and their emotional state of mind, shouldn’t they be locked up? Why is it that, a simple, peaceful network individual like myself, can look at the world through a lens, God gave us all?

I’ve digressed due to time restrictions at the moment. Most people realize how detrimental a wide open, “come one come all” border can overtake any country, never mind America!

Where do we go from here? A tremendous amount of unknown people have walked in, good people yes, bad people for sure! These people want to destroy America and with the aid of BHO and all his corrupt, America hating cronies, they’ll support, arm, house and order, those wanting to destroy us all!

Thanks Dr for your leadership! You’re an honest man with great integrity!

AJR

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" ... opening the door for a direct, Palestinian - Israeli conflict here, in America ..." New Israel wouldn't have to be located in or near Michigan. The ideal location, contrary to suggestion I've heard that New York State or Hawaii should be the location, arguably would be Florida. It has very suitable real estate. Or do you mean that if the US was to give up, e.g., Florida for a New Israel that there potentially could be conflict following the establishment of the new country with relocated former Floridians in refugee camps in, e.g., Georgia or Alabama or non-Jewish Floridians who might remain in the new country? Florida is large enough that the likelihood of the new country engaging in border skirmishes with, or seizing and occupying land from Georgia and Alabama would be minimal, at least in the early years, and the risk could be managed. Jewish people from the diaspora could be encouraged to relocate to the New Israel. Florida us a lot more attractive than middle eastern Israel. Ideally, probably 80% of Florida or New Israel should be populated by Jewish people, with citizenship reserved for them. The remaining 20% could provide a local labor force. Non-Jewish workers could be brought in temporatily from elsewhere in the US on an as needs basis. Ideally, citizens of New Israel should have dual citizenship with the US and be able to vote in US elections and enjoy all the rights and privileges of US citizens, including to be members of US Congress, the cabinet, presidency and the judiciary, as now. Although some Americans might consider this unfair, it would be merely one small step toward addressing the historic Injustices perpetrated on the Jewish people including by the US which was slow to come to the assistance of the Jewish people during WW2.

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hhhmmmm....very interesting

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As Sherlock Holmes would say Awake, “By George Watson, I think you’ve got it ole man”!

All kidding aside Awake, something has to give. Since Israel’s inception, relocation and most certainly not forgetting for a second, the atrocities perpetrated on the Jewish people, IMO, their resilience and determination to persevere, would be a welcome gift for America.

No group of people, any group, regardless of their race, religion, creed etc, should be under constant threat of extinction! This type of behavior begins with outspoken, misguided and indoctrinated individuals. As we’re witnessing today on college campuses all around America!

Have we lost our minds? The hatred is astounding, the ignorance and complete disregard for human life is downright evil! What has happened to higher education?

Which is what got me thinking yesterday about your post Awake. It starts with “New Israel” as you said. Unfortunately, Higher Education would squash it before it got started. And here’s why.

1. Yes we have lost our minds!

2. Today’s Higher Education has

deteriorated the core mind.

The problem’s we’re seeing today, begin and end here. They’ve become the breeding grounds for everything “Elitism”. Some would call it “Nose Snubbing”or, I’m better than you attitude. Which has infected society all around us, literally.

I’m sure the NY man who recently keyed the truck in Florida, attended one of these colleges, because of a “Let’s Go Branden” bumper sticker!

It’s taken decades of grooming and nurturing, brainwashing and indoctrinating, hundreds of thousands of professors, students and agitators, etc.

Slowly and methodically, this process has built a level of hatred we’re seeing on college campuses today. A melting pot of dangerous and well funded ideologues! And their “Useful Idiots”. The unsuspecting brainwashed students.

And, as important, this allows for and provides cover for, “Soros paid protesters”. “Can’t let a good crisis go to waste” now can we?

Thank you Rahm Emanuel! (Gee Wally I wonder who he worked for?).

There’s such a lack of awareness and a complete disregard for understanding of and for their own ignorance! This has taken decades to mature. We’re now watching, a mature ideology, blossom, as they reap the fruits of their labor.

This, has been years in the making. Higher Education is the epicenter as I said, of all things hateful and what’s wrong in America!

At the end of the 19th century, America’s Higher Education System began recruiting /employing Doctors from Germany. These individuals were the German Elites. They believed in “Not for me only for thee” sort of speak, mentality. I call it mental!

CRT, was brought to Columbia in the late 1930’s early 40’s and was taught by German Immigrant Professors. This, IMO was the beginning of the end. I say this because, as I mentioned earlier, this has been decades in the making and all this “Woke-Isms” are the results. It will be the end if we don’t stop this madness!

Yes Awake, I would support a “New Israel” relocation to somewhere in America. Certainly after what we’re experiencing right now with an illegal invasion of all things “criminal”, a Jewish settlement would be a blessing.

I don’t believe the Jewish community wants to leave Israel. Their Biblical Connections are vast and deep. Only my opinion.

More importantly is this never ending, hate filled venom, being directed towards and for the complete annihilation of, the Jewish peoples. This seems to be the reason people get out of bed in the morning! Such hatred must be stopped!

If it isn’t stopped, today the Jewish people, tomorrow who’s next? This is exactly the end result of what has happened to Higher Education in America!

The “Elites vs Non-Elites”, which is what is the driving force behind everything happening worldwide and here in America.

The “Hitlers” of the world, of the Higher Education System, of the WEF, the WHO! Please forgive me if I missed anyone.

My sincere apologies to all the “Wanna Be Hitlers”!

Yes Awake, this is what the world is facing, once again. It’s not only the Jewish people, it’s eventually “ALL THE PEOPLE” worldwide!

Now we know why America must be,

“Fundamentally Transformed”!

Thank you Awake, I appreciate your post, your insight and most importantly, your knowledge.

AJR

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Thank you for your thoughtful and reasoned post.

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Who gives oders to Senate and the House? A 100% minority.

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What's done is done. Israel exists. No one can change time and what's happened. Same for America, sure the Indian nations occupied much of America, but no one in their right mind would consider giving the United States back to the Indians.

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The Jewish politicians that you name above does not excite me to have an increased US population of similar human beings. They have destroyed our country.

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I wonder how many of these Jews are from Semitic origins and how many who worship ar the synagogue of satan deliberately destroying the tribe from within

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This stack is an absolute lie. The Jewish population never decreased in the 1930's/1940's. Find factual accounts of the Jewish population and you will see that there was not a decrease in the population. The Holocaust is a hoax. When people questioned it and demanded to see 6MM bodies, the Jews then pointed to cremation. But it is impossible to cremate millions of people in a few years - literally impossible. The Red Cross was in multiple concentration camps at the request of Germany, and never reported mass killings. Not only is there a time issue, in war-torn Germany, there was also a resource issue. There were roughly 12MM jews reported to be living in the 1930's. If it is to believed that 50% of the known Jewish population in the ENTIRE world was purportedly killed in Germany & Poland, why were there reportedly 15MM Jews in 1950? How long exactly did it take to incinerate a single person in the early 1940's? Be careful with your answer, because if we do the math - it will absolutely prove that it is impossible to cram 6 million people into the equation. The fact is that cremation was due to disease prevention. Read up on any American POW stories and you will see that when POW's/prisoners were sick, they were always sent to the infirmary. Every day a doctor would go around the infirmary and decide if a sick person was worth saving or too riddled with sickness to save. If deemed too sick, a prisoner was sent to the crematorium. Were there cremations? Yes - even American POW's were cremated. However, there was never mass incineration. There was mass persecution, yes. But a Holocaust? PLEASE!

I have an older Jewish friend. He tells me all the time that growing up in the 1950's that he never once heard the word holocaust, never heard of gas chambers, never heard 6 million deaths, etc. He did hear: work camps; emigration; and political prisoners. Then in 1966, Elie Wiesel comes along with this tale about a holocaust and now it's all a fact. Well it's not. It was impossible to have a holocaust and the numbers prove it. Stop spreading the lie!

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A clarification of facts is obviously necessary Doc, for the benefit of the folks. Semites are the descendants of Shem. All of the tribes of Israel are Semitic, including those from the tribe of Judah, as they descended from Abraham, who according to the genealogy of the Bible, was indeed descended from Shem. Our misshapen, misinformed, misinformation laden modern society has mistakenly (fraudulently) distorted the meaning of the word Semite, to mean only 'Jewish', and yet goes further and defrauds the truth by failing to differentiate between 'religious' Judaism and ethnic Jews. I would point out, for any interested in the truth, that all of Israel is under attack these days, that is to say the Commonwealth of Israel (Ephesians 2: KJV) is the place of the saved in Jesus Christ, and that men from every nation who fear God and confess the Lord Jesus Christ, are graffed into the Commonwealth of Israel, otherwise known as the Christian Church. All of the tribes of Israel are Semitic, not just the ethnic Jews. (I would suggest that many of those practicing "Judaism" are not even ethnic Jews, i.e. not in fact Semitic). ANTI-SEMITISM occurs with any derogatory remark about a Christian, a white person, or a convert to Christianity from any nation....because adoption into the Commonwealth of Israel entails the inheritance of all the privileges granted by God to adopted heirs...no matter what their ethnicity. Again, the so-called 'lost tribes' are hiding in plain sight, and some of them are their own worst enemies, because they have failed to understand who they are...God's chosen people, those who have accepted Jesus...the Christian Church, who accept and treasure every person from every nation who love Jesus , the Christ of God, in whom salvation is found, the only one with the power to save. Unfortunately, the 'religious' Jews (Judaism) do not, even yet, understand that Jesus IS THE MESSIAH. Failure to recognize that Jesus is God in the flesh, is failure to recognize God. The fall of greater Israel (the western world) is currently in progress until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in to the Commonwealth of Israel, (the Church) by accepting Jesus, and it is through the Gentiles that all Israel will be saved, according to the Apostle Paul. Incidentally, Paul, the apostle sent by Jesus to the Gentiles, was an ethnic Benjamite, (not an ethnic Jew), a former 'religious' Jew become Christian after persecuting Christians, and was given the responsibility to teach this information to all who came after him in the world, where we find ourselves today. Israeli Law was given by God through Moses, and retained somewhat by Judaism, and somewhat by Christians, but is the basis of law for the entire Western civilization, (Judeo/Christian principles), until recently, as Western governments have demonstrated lawlessness. The dispersed of Israel and Judah became the Western world, and for that reason, the "western world" , essentially "whitey", is under attack constantly by those that hate God...we are the Commonwealth of Israel, chosen by, and ordained to serve God. A long look at photographs of the victims and survivors of The Holocaust will convince any who doubt these facts...the "Jews" were white folk, not black, not Oriental, not Arabic...not Native North American... THEY WERE Semitic...just like their brethren of the OTHER 11 tribes. So...in other words, saying that Christians are terrorists is an ANTI-SEMITIC HATE CRIME. Our brethren of the tribe of Judah have indeed suffered...the Bible says that the tribe of Judah sinned against God, and was punished for it....and that the rest of Israel (the other 11 tribes) was just as bad or worse, and punished accordingly as well. That is why Jesus was sent, by God, to sacrifice Himself, to reconcile the world with God. Thank you Jesus. Turn your hearts toward Jesus, and find peace with God, today, if you have ears to hear, while it is called Today.

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Israeli government officials openly show maps of a Greater Israel. Also, long planned is the Ben Gurion Canal that would compete with Egypt’s Suez Canal. Jared Kushner has spoken openly of beach front condos in Gaza. Gaza also could become a hub for natural gas export to Europe.

Everyone who hasn’t already done so should read the Balfour Agreement and also research what the British received from the US in return.

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The history repeats itself, a small minority sacrifices its own people.

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Long ago they lived together without conflict even in Syria, Perplexing the surge of hate and cannot even talk or eat food together. Who are the people spreading negative attitudes towards others? The garbage needs to stop. If Ham is being fund by I ran and that money and left behind weapons Mr Senile set up for this mess. Housecleaning and pr would have difficult time cleaning the mess up.

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Zionism is the problem, Christian and otherwise. The world is not going to continue to put up with the occupation, apartheid, ethnic cleansing and genocide that is existing in Israel. With about 18 million Jews in the world and 2.2+ billion Muslims, there will never be peace in the Middle East with the way things are set up in Israel. There needs to be some drastic changes that are fair to the people's and their ancestors who were there before 1948. Perhaps the best thing is for the Jews to leave if they cannot live with the Arabs/Muslims. Israel will continue to be the powder keg which can set off WWIII at anytime until things change. The Holy Land should not be dominated by one religion.

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Oh yes, those poor innocent jews. Cry me a freaking river. This satanic bloodline has caused unrelenting harm since their inception on this Earth. Everywhere they go, entire civilizations are brought to the ground and it has not stopped for thousands of years. These lying creatures are not even semites!!! Palestinians are true semites and most people have nothing against the Palestinians. Most people are ANTI-JEW and there is a reason for this!!!! Enough with the eternal victimhood of the lying jews. They have ALWAYS been the aggressors and the destroyers. They are NOT victims.

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