Dr. Yeadon asks Dr. Tess Lawrie to publicly to state why she continues to promote “early treatment” for a non-existent illness. Fair question. (Interest of Justice); IMO, early treatment had, has a
Dr. Yeadon asks Dr. Tess Lawrie to publicly to state why she continues to promote “early treatment” for a non-existent illness. Fair question. (Interest of Justice); IMO, early treatment had, has a
place in the high-risk vulnerable to arrest viral replication to prevent sequelae to the advanced hyper-immune inflammatory pulmonary phases, blood clotting phases etc.; antibiotics IMO were the KEY
It's inevitable - this question. Assuming there was some kind of localized poisons released in certain places making people sick - I think so - but no virus circulating the globe, than we have to understand this piece. Believing in pandemics relies on believing in virus' that circle the globe. So key to the willingness vs unwillingness of a population when it comes to accepting the next pandemic narrative/scam.
And definitely in NY too. Probably pockets in lots of places so as to look convincing. But clearly no spreading virus. Then the rest is easy, people expect to get sick, they believe the PCR tests, the illusion is pretty easy to pull off. Not to mention using protocols to actually kill people in hospitals.
Very likely a high fidelity infectious clone ( natural rna corona viruses are not high fidelity) they’ve been cloning these things for years. It’s how they study them.
Agree. I'm also not sure on viruses being contagious. Other mechanisms of contagion could well explain it. But details aside the overarching message of the would-be-controllers, is we can't trust nature or ourselves, and we should be in perpetual fear. All absolute inversions of reality. It is ourselves - as part of nature - and Nature that we can trust.
Shedding of this old manufactured world, continues. Good.
Dr Sam Bailey and her husband Mark have analysed all the pharma tests, trials and virus's have never been proven to be a self replicating pathogen. They've proven the pcr test to be fraud, a made up sequence from a computer. Dr Ardis has been right on the ball from the outset too in that it's localised poisoning with venom peptides ...how else do people end up with venom peptides in their blood, stools and urine.....didn't come from a virus via the lungs did it. He states a French peer reviewed paper showed all this data in 2020 mand the peptides found even came from sea snails found only in southern America and these blood tests were in France and Italy from memory .
Dr. Yeadon has been ahead of the curve since day 1. His bona fides are beyond impeccable. I feel like— as we gain more knowledge every day—we’re all heading to where Dr. Yeadon is. We discount him at our peril.
I m just saying this out loud. I know you feel the same way Dr. Paul.
Dr. Yeadon Comments on Epidemic of Fraud Documentary: "All These 'Early Treatment' Promoting Doctors Are Frauds and They’re Aiding and Abetting the Perpetrators…"
"By reinforcing the notion of “early treatment” of a non-existent disease, they’ll have helped reinforce the propaganda that there was a pandemic and that there might be other pandemics."
If early treatment was a fraud then how could it have worked? Would you have joined the medical establishment in advising people to do nothing until their lips turned blue, then go to the ER?
I have been living with severe COPD for about 23 years, so of course I was terrified when the Covid thing started. My previous pulmonologist at the VA in Arizona told me to be sure to have Prednisone and Doxycyline on hand at all times and to start taking it at the first sign of an upper respiratory infection. She prescribed it to me monthly to make sure I had fresh batches. I very rarely got sick but when I did I was prepared. Her intention was to keep me out of the ER. When I moved to South Carolina, I lost my wonderful doc. The docs here will not prescribe 'preventative' meds to me. I ended up in the hospital in November of 2019 with 'the flu'. I asked the doc to give me an antibiotic to prevent or help me should I get pneumonia. He would not do it. When I was discharged after 4 days I was having great difficulty breathing and within a week I had pneumonia! I had some leftover steroids and antibiotics which I took right away until I could get to the doc the next day. X-ray showed pneumonia which I knew cause I couldn't even walk to the bathroom. They prescribed Levequin. The pharmacist told me to continue the doxy but I didn't tell him about the steroids. Had I not had a doctor years earlier that educated me about my condition and cared about me, I likely would have died. Moral of this story is you must take care of yourself if you want to survive in this world today. Become educated and use common sense and discernment. I don't know if so-called 'viruses' exist, but something attacked us. Whatever Covid was, I strongly believe it was man-made and meant to do enormous harm. Fauci told us it was coming in 2017!
Dr Alexander, honest question here. While COVID may not have been a real or novel virus, if people were getting sick due to a bioweapon or poisoning, would there still not be value in these early treatments (IVM, HCQ, NAC, glutathione, etc.) to support the immune system and clear or detoxify the body from the poison. While I’m open to the idea that this may not have been a virus, and in fact viruses may not even exist at all, many people who were unvaxxed clearly were sickened by something in a significant and profound way starting in 2019 (before any of us had ever even heard about COVID) going through 2022 and I don’t think it was all in peoples’ heads as some (not you) would seem to imply.
One must ask if covid was real then why did some get sick and die and others not get anything? We don't really know who might have had covid since there was no verified test for it (PCR test was a joke, at best). Your immune system, if it exists, is what it is and cannot be somehow re-enforced or upgraded as so many claim. What would be the limit of improving it?
Why do some get sick and others don't? If viruses were contagious, then half the planet would be sick at any one time. Why? Because half the planet is in poor health or susceptible to illness and disease at any one time.
The entire medical system and physiologic of its reason for existence is extremely tainted and diseased itself. Why is not taking any drugs much, much healthier than taking even a few?
Whatever IT was, it was not novel. None of my immediate family were sick though we did take vitamins and zinc and quercitin. No precautions at all otherwise. Blood type, previous infections of childhood diseases that primed the immune system, and other health factors affected susceptibility.
I recently read a substack analysis of Vaers data on “how bad was my batch? I THINK Dr Yeadon presented the information, though it was a collegial effort. I live in a small rural community and I was surprised at how many people were harmed. It seemed disproportionate to the demographic.After reading the analysis I figured it out. My community was targeted to get the killer dose. Targeted communities suffered many many more victims per batch than the others—who might in fact have had no victims. The next question is why.
The entire Covid scenario was based on an invalid analytical molecular lab tool, namely PCR. There never was a “pandemic” just a mass induced hysteria over a BS made up disease.
in lombardy, 99% (ninety-nine percent) of the deaths originally attributed to "covid" were changed retroactively to other causes.
many of the nyc deaths cannot be accounted for. in order for >26k deaths to have occurred over a two-month period, there would have been a death for every hospital bed in the city. see jessica hockett's very enlightening work.
as denis rancourt proved, a virus doesn't stop at the state line - patterns of "infectivity" were more indicative of a test-demic than a real epidemic. also see his study of how the 2020 decline in prescriptions for antibiotics was proportional to "covid" deaths. denial of antibiotics for ILIs misattributed to "covid" were lethal to many of the most vulnerable
and then there's the mysterious disappearance of influenza, 2020-21, at least according to the cdc
mike yeadon has been out in front of everyone else on all of this, he doesn't jump the gun so any assertion he makes should be taken seriously.
in Lombardy Italy, the median age of death was like 84 with 3-5 grave underlying medical condition...when the media spooked us they failed to tell us this...initially...we had to find it out ourselves.
Scientists tried to give people COVID — and failed
Researchers deliberately infect participants with SARS-CoV-2 in ‘challenge’ trials — but high levels of immunity complicate efforts to test vaccines and treatments.
I had long Covid for 14 months. Lots of brain fog and very lethargic. I finally found FLCCC treatment protocol for long COVID. I was 90% better in 15 minutes. Ivermectin, vitamin D and I believe quercetin too.
Quercetin too. Good stuff. I know a lady now who is sick right now with probably covid. She is vehemently anti-vaxx and thinks it's a cold. Fortunately, she is using turmeric, black pepper and ginger and I'm encouraging her to get sunlight and use quercetin.
My husband got Covid too but had the jab and did not get as sick. I am very glad I did not get the shot and I’m fine today….but give the devil his due….it SLIGHTY reduces Covid sickness for a couple of months. Of course, the jab is not worth the risk it is very dangerous and can cause death or severe injury.
Glad to hear you're fine today. I know a lady in her 30s who got long covid after her 2nd omicron infection. She's unjabbed. Not everybody who gets it is jabbed, regardless of what Jim believes. This lady is now disabled with dementia-like symptoms and in rehabilitation. She's socially isolated with nobody shedding on her at home but had pre-existing depression, which damages the endothelium, as does covid. Glad to hear you're fine today. Even mild covid is linked to substantial IQ loss. Covid appears to accelerate the aging process, including brain aging. Quercetin + long pepper may help to counter this effect.
Thank you very much for sharing this interesting article Gaye. Black pepper is great. Long pepper is a different species from the same genus. It can potentially substitute for the toxic chemotherapy drug dasatinib to fight covid related brain aging when combined with quercetin.
Senolytics show promise in combating brain aging and COVID-19 neuropathology
" ... human brain organoids (BOs) ... were treated with two doses of senolytics, such as the dasatinib-quercetin (D+Q) combination, ABT-737, and navitoclax, for one month at a two-week interval ... The researchers examined the associations of transcriptomic changes between COVID-19 patients and SARS-CoV-2-infected BOs ... Conclusions
Taken together, the study demonstrated that senescent cells accumulate in physiologically aged human BOs, with long-term senolytic intervention(s) substantially reducing cellular senescence and inflammation. Further, D+Q treatment uniquely induced anti-aging and pro-longevity gene expression changes in BOs."
Computational identification of natural senotherapeutic compounds that mimic dasatinib based on gene expression data
"The four compounds, and in particular the top-runner piperlongumine, may be combined with quercetin to obtain natural formulas emulating the dasatinib + quercetin formula."
The “No Virus” crowd demand the rest of us admit there was no covid. Some in this crowd demand we admit there are no viruses. Some have questioned the presence of bacteria as well. There are plenty of good people in this crowd. There are plenty of charlatans too. Have any of them actually grappled with the consequences of their theory?
If there was no covid, the indisputable corollaries are:
That there is no long covid. Buck up sick people, as you are in fact well. Or some of you have some other undiagnosed condition.
There is no treatment or preventive for covid since there was no covid. None of those remedies you took had any effect. Your apparent benefit was solely due to the power of suggestion.
Those of us who insist we treated covid are moronic doctors. Both sets of doctors are morons: those who used remdesivir and ventilators and those who used Vitamin D, hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. Most (99% plus) primary care docs and intensivists fit in one of those categories.
Fauci, Baric, Daszac, Zhengli-Shi etc. are guilty of nothing, since they failed to create a pandemic virus – because there was no virus. There will be no trials. There are no guilty parties. The entire pandemic and all its follow-on effects were due to collective psychosis, nothing more.
No one died from covid. Either they died from something else or they are still alive, somewhere.
What were people dying from in Lombardy, Wuhan and New York City and later everywhere else? Or was that faked? My son and his wife were caring for people who they knew (doctors and nurses) at New York Presbyterian Hospital and they thought they died from covid in March 2020. The hospital was overrun with such patients for a period of weeks. By the time travelling nurses were hired to deal with the high volume, the rush of cases had dissipated. If everyone (both patients and professionals) was wrapped up in a mass psychosis, why did the episode stop so quickly?
Had doctors begun a killing spree even at the very start of the pandemic, putting perfectly healthy people on ventilators, and giving them boluses of midazolam and morphine to ease their iatrogenic deaths, all over the world? Or was that practice limited to certain locations, like the UK?
Where is the evidence that people with normal oxygen levels were being placed on ventilators? (There is no such evidence.)
If there was no covid, then it did not spread. Family members and associates did not get it from index cases – yet the evidence says it spread within close associates.
If there was no covid, then Governor Cuomo and other Governors sending sick patients back to nursing homes to spread it to the elderly and infirm never actually happened. Then how do you explain that over 80% of deaths in many locations occurred in nursing homes?
I lived in Winnipeg.ca. In the beginning, our local paper reported deaths, by gender and age. I kept track for a while, and was shocked that all of a sudden so many elderly people were dying, day after day. A lot were in nursing homes. A year later, questions were asked in the legislature about what had happened. Why so many had died. No good reason was given. I understand that Canada has not been able to produce excess death data as yet. I’m not surprised.
If Yeadon is right then Dr Pierre Kory and Dr Tess Lawrie’s work on ivermectin has been in vain. Also the Wellness company is selling ivermectin which is worthless against a non existent virus. I find this mind boggling.
It has its great place against the clot shot spike, but not against Covid, which was Tess and Dr Kory’s original hope. So all those FLCCC peer reviewed papers that we all loved are worthless?
I don't think so. Dr. Kory's entire practice is now focused on Vax Injuries including Shedding of the Spiked Protein from vaxxed to unvaxxed. He now believes CV-19 was never released, and that Long Covid is in fact Long Vax. As for the usefulness of Ivermectin, it's very effective against vax injuries, and it's still great for all forms of coronaviruses, including the common cold, flu, and even Bird Flu. You don't need a dangerous and ineffective flu shot anymore.
Hi SnapFactor. How do you know: . Dr. Kory's entire practice is now focused on Vax Injuries including Shedding of the Spiked Protein from vaxxed to unvaxxed. He now believes CV-19 was never released, and that Long Covid is in fact Long Vax?
Ah yes! I’ve never been vaxed, but I did get 3 blood clots and pneumonia. This was before Covid. A great US doctor gave me confidence come off Rivaroxaban and take Nattokinase.
That was 6 years ago. I’ve never looked back.
The Japs are great! Ivermectin, Nattokinase, discover spike protein gets everywhere. We owe them!
So following your assertions Trump who touted Hyrdroxy along with his recently repeated vaccines saved hundreds of millions of lives during the pandemic is also NOT correct because he acknowledges a new virus? Also, you can't claim there is no virus and that its a chinese bio weapon funded by our own GOF research. Which is it people? I also remember you repeatedly touting Geert Vanden Bossche's advanced scientific understandings (I stand on the shoulders of these giants-roughly quoted) and he is currently proactively recommending hydroxy and IVM, prophylactically for the next virus coming before June due to our mass vaccination of healthy asymptomatic people in the middle of a pandemic, and thereby causing an even more viral & infectious, dare I say "virus". And now Dr Lawrie is a "WHO insider" promoting IVM and b/c Mike Yeadon called her out, you cross post under the auspices of his post. In case anyone reading your work gets misguided, I want to share my story. I've used IVM, and saved a dear, elderly loved one's life by following Lawrie's research papers that she personally did on IVM (have you personally done a meta analysis in a Cochrane style study?) & FLCCC protocols so much so that within 24 hr's she was breathing better and over the hump to recovery from her "no virus infection" At 80 she's been thru enough flu to recognize this viruses virulence and differentiators like glue in lungs. I also find it very odd that Yeadon's post ties' Wellness Co's McCullough with Lawrie's recommendations, yet the Wellness Co touts IVM too. I'm not sure why are this shit posting about virus no virus, who to hate, who not hate but it doesn't do the general cause any good. The enemy is after us and we keep dividing us on the inside with wasted bullshit, whose dick is bigger, whose first, who recommended masks then converted (Weinstein) and on and on it goes. Let me be even clearer. I stand with research on IVM. There is no controlled op going on w/Tess Lawrie if anyone with half a brain can critically think for themselves instead of being a psychophant
Victor, go do your homework...I actually was an employee of WHO, twice...Europe and DC...Tess was a consultant,...I was on payroll...Tess IS a smart lady but smart people can be wrong...I am not saying IVM does not work or HCQ...read my writing again...also, just to share, since you took a whack, people who go to Harvard and Yale and Stanford to study research methods, could not attend the place I did mine...I did my doctorate under the father of evidence based medicine and one more thing Vic, cochrane reviews, meta analyses, etc., it is my division that invented and refines and builds these methods...I have conducted cochrane reviews and they are bull shit...I am part of the teams that invented them, built the methods and its corrupt shit...that is why I stand on my own...they cant take me down for I will punish them technically...even in COVID....notice no one questions me...there is a reason for this...go read my background. I only responded to you this way to match your disrespect.
Where were you during the Trump administration when it mattered most since you have/had all the answers? I only responded to you this way to match your disrespect. Excuse the hell out of me, I thought good science allowed open debate
As I said I have the highest regard for Mike Yeadon, English like me! But there’s an awful lot of work done by Kory etc that will have to be thrown out as false. And what about those amazing results in India? How to explain that States which used ivermectin had a GIGANTIC drop in Covid deaths?
In Peru, excess deaths decreased 14-fold between August 1 and December 1, 2020, concurrent with a massive, nationwide distribution of ivermectin that began in August 2020. Then, after a new president was elected on November 17 who restricted the use of ivermectin, excess deaths increased 13-fold from December 1, 2020, to February 1, 2021. Although correlation does not necessarily imply causation, a rigorous state-by-state analysis of ivermectin use in Peru’s 25 states using national health data that aligned with WHO summary data (the same data source as for the chart above) showed that in this case, ivermectin clearly caused the reductions in deaths observed. The analysis found a correlation between the extent of ivermectin use and reductions in excess deaths, by state, with p < 0.002, and no indication of any significant effect by several potential confounding factors considered [20].
In Uttar Pradesh, the largest state in India, having a population of 229 million, COVID-19 deaths fell by 97%, between May 7 and July 7, 2021, after a mass distribution of ivermectin, doxycycline, zinc with vitamins and acetaminophen tablets that began on May 5, 2021. The cumulative total of COVID-19 deaths per million population in Uttar Pradesh from July 7, 2021, to April 1, 2023, was 0.27% of that figure in the US for the same period [20].
I do like Dr Mike Yeadon a lot. He’s been in since the start and is not a grifter. But it’s a BIG step to say there is no virus. I wish I knew who is right on this.
Ro, to a certain extent, I think we’re trying to figure out how many angels can dance on the head of a pin ( or something like that). The bigger picture is where we need to focus. This pandemic was crafted by humans: deadly declaration, cowardly citizens, governments, scientists, hospitals, etc. and many were downright evil. I think we’re getting through the many obfuscations thrown in to confound everything.
re: Angels....that medieval argument centered on the actual materiality of angels. And you are right on point applying that to this current predicament. What has been accomplished, going past the middle ages, is the creation of a Tower of Babel. We all now are odds with each other, do not know what or whom to trust, and highly subject to manipulation. We have, it seems, created God in our own image.
I totally agree Steve. And yes they really want to split and weaken us.
But I feel it’s time this question must be answered. It’s been hanging around for years, whether viruses exist. And that’s a separate question to whether it’s just this ‘virus’ that is a lie.
excellent exchange...and answering this is profound...I tend to think something does, maybe pieces of genetic material, maybe a toxin from the entity etc...something...
Dehli - 28,395 cases and rising. Ivermectin acheived a 97% reduction in 5 weeks.
Dehli - deaths IN THE SAME PERIOD fell from 277 to 117
TAMIL NADU REFUSED IVERMECTIN
Tamil Nadu - new cases rose from 10,986 to 36,184 – a tripling. 300% INCREASE
Tamil Nadu - deaths skyrocketed from 48 on April 20 to 474 on May 27 – a rise of ten-fold
Unfortunately these figures are taken about 3 months after the death shot vax was administered. So Mike Yeadon could say Ah the difference can be explained by the KILLING effect of the ‘vaccines’.
But over 3 months not even the clot shots could achieve this difference. And the case clear up is simply huge. Indian’s have to be tough to survive, but that early delta virus really knocked them out. Remember they don’t have much in the way of welfare out there, if they don’t work, they starve. So something knocked them out. And these states and cities have vast populations ( 100 million + ) so it was statistically significant. SOMETHING knocked them out and KILLED a lot of them. Ivermectin killed this something on a vast scale. What could it be Mike?
My friend is from India. Her parents are physicians. All doctors in their state were given HCQ prophylacticly in 2020. This friend, her husband, and children visited family in India in Dec of 2021 and got very sick with the Rona (whatever it was— virus, poison, pollution, bioweapon, etc.). They went to the corner drugstore (or our equivalent but much more) and everyone got a “COVID” packet with IVM, doxycycline, NAC, zinc, Vit D, Vit C, etc.). Better within hours. So, yes, people on the ground confirm that IVM was being used for this illness in India. They even brought the packet list home with them.
I think early had and has its place.
correct, has its place.
It's inevitable - this question. Assuming there was some kind of localized poisons released in certain places making people sick - I think so - but no virus circulating the globe, than we have to understand this piece. Believing in pandemics relies on believing in virus' that circle the globe. So key to the willingness vs unwillingness of a population when it comes to accepting the next pandemic narrative/scam.
Go, Yeadon.
In Boston something was released at a hotel where a conference with worldwide attendees. The first patients were very ill.
And definitely in NY too. Probably pockets in lots of places so as to look convincing. But clearly no spreading virus. Then the rest is easy, people expect to get sick, they believe the PCR tests, the illusion is pretty easy to pull off. Not to mention using protocols to actually kill people in hospitals.
Very likely a high fidelity infectious clone ( natural rna corona viruses are not high fidelity) they’ve been cloning these things for years. It’s how they study them.
excellent point
no doubt
agreed fully
Agree. I'm also not sure on viruses being contagious. Other mechanisms of contagion could well explain it. But details aside the overarching message of the would-be-controllers, is we can't trust nature or ourselves, and we should be in perpetual fear. All absolute inversions of reality. It is ourselves - as part of nature - and Nature that we can trust.
Shedding of this old manufactured world, continues. Good.
Thanks.
our own immune system has and had served us way better...we just do not realize it.
Dr Sam Bailey and her husband Mark have analysed all the pharma tests, trials and virus's have never been proven to be a self replicating pathogen. They've proven the pcr test to be fraud, a made up sequence from a computer. Dr Ardis has been right on the ball from the outset too in that it's localised poisoning with venom peptides ...how else do people end up with venom peptides in their blood, stools and urine.....didn't come from a virus via the lungs did it. He states a French peer reviewed paper showed all this data in 2020 mand the peptides found even came from sea snails found only in southern America and these blood tests were in France and Italy from memory .
thank you for sharing, invaluable
Dr. Yeadon has been ahead of the curve since day 1. His bona fides are beyond impeccable. I feel like— as we gain more knowledge every day—we’re all heading to where Dr. Yeadon is. We discount him at our peril.
I m just saying this out loud. I know you feel the same way Dr. Paul.
yes
there is good stuff in Mike's work
I dont mean Big Mike, I mean Mike Yeadon.
You know Paul, in another lifetime you could be a comedian !
Thanks for a hearty chuckle right there.
I do thank you for being here
Thanks for this. This is a big deal to me.
Dr. Yeadon Comments on Epidemic of Fraud Documentary: "All These 'Early Treatment' Promoting Doctors Are Frauds and They’re Aiding and Abetting the Perpetrators…"
"By reinforcing the notion of “early treatment” of a non-existent disease, they’ll have helped reinforce the propaganda that there was a pandemic and that there might be other pandemics."
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/dr-yeadon-comments-on-epidemic-of
You Are Not Sick. You Are Being POISONED: 3D Graphene Oxide Nanoparticles for Cloud Seeding Patent US 2022/0002159 A1
"Graphene oxide can act as a solo trigger for most COVID symptoms. This is not a VIRUS or spike protein, but a chemical warfare agent"
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/you-are-not-sick-you-are-being-poisoned-db0
If early treatment was a fraud then how could it have worked? Would you have joined the medical establishment in advising people to do nothing until their lips turned blue, then go to the ER?
I have been living with severe COPD for about 23 years, so of course I was terrified when the Covid thing started. My previous pulmonologist at the VA in Arizona told me to be sure to have Prednisone and Doxycyline on hand at all times and to start taking it at the first sign of an upper respiratory infection. She prescribed it to me monthly to make sure I had fresh batches. I very rarely got sick but when I did I was prepared. Her intention was to keep me out of the ER. When I moved to South Carolina, I lost my wonderful doc. The docs here will not prescribe 'preventative' meds to me. I ended up in the hospital in November of 2019 with 'the flu'. I asked the doc to give me an antibiotic to prevent or help me should I get pneumonia. He would not do it. When I was discharged after 4 days I was having great difficulty breathing and within a week I had pneumonia! I had some leftover steroids and antibiotics which I took right away until I could get to the doc the next day. X-ray showed pneumonia which I knew cause I couldn't even walk to the bathroom. They prescribed Levequin. The pharmacist told me to continue the doxy but I didn't tell him about the steroids. Had I not had a doctor years earlier that educated me about my condition and cared about me, I likely would have died. Moral of this story is you must take care of yourself if you want to survive in this world today. Become educated and use common sense and discernment. I don't know if so-called 'viruses' exist, but something attacked us. Whatever Covid was, I strongly believe it was man-made and meant to do enormous harm. Fauci told us it was coming in 2017!
yes, all you say is sad, troubling, painful for you, for us too...and we are grateful you shared....yes it was man made...something was made
Dr Alexander, honest question here. While COVID may not have been a real or novel virus, if people were getting sick due to a bioweapon or poisoning, would there still not be value in these early treatments (IVM, HCQ, NAC, glutathione, etc.) to support the immune system and clear or detoxify the body from the poison. While I’m open to the idea that this may not have been a virus, and in fact viruses may not even exist at all, many people who were unvaxxed clearly were sickened by something in a significant and profound way starting in 2019 (before any of us had ever even heard about COVID) going through 2022 and I don’t think it was all in peoples’ heads as some (not you) would seem to imply.
One must ask if covid was real then why did some get sick and die and others not get anything? We don't really know who might have had covid since there was no verified test for it (PCR test was a joke, at best). Your immune system, if it exists, is what it is and cannot be somehow re-enforced or upgraded as so many claim. What would be the limit of improving it?
Why do some get sick and others don't? If viruses were contagious, then half the planet would be sick at any one time. Why? Because half the planet is in poor health or susceptible to illness and disease at any one time.
The entire medical system and physiologic of its reason for existence is extremely tainted and diseased itself. Why is not taking any drugs much, much healthier than taking even a few?
great questions...
Whatever IT was, it was not novel. None of my immediate family were sick though we did take vitamins and zinc and quercitin. No precautions at all otherwise. Blood type, previous infections of childhood diseases that primed the immune system, and other health factors affected susceptibility.
I recently read a substack analysis of Vaers data on “how bad was my batch? I THINK Dr Yeadon presented the information, though it was a collegial effort. I live in a small rural community and I was surprised at how many people were harmed. It seemed disproportionate to the demographic.After reading the analysis I figured it out. My community was targeted to get the killer dose. Targeted communities suffered many many more victims per batch than the others—who might in fact have had no victims. The next question is why.
The entire Covid scenario was based on an invalid analytical molecular lab tool, namely PCR. There never was a “pandemic” just a mass induced hysteria over a BS made up disease.
boom
in lombardy, 99% (ninety-nine percent) of the deaths originally attributed to "covid" were changed retroactively to other causes.
many of the nyc deaths cannot be accounted for. in order for >26k deaths to have occurred over a two-month period, there would have been a death for every hospital bed in the city. see jessica hockett's very enlightening work.
https://www.woodhouse76.com/p/responding-to-meryl-nasss-claims
as denis rancourt proved, a virus doesn't stop at the state line - patterns of "infectivity" were more indicative of a test-demic than a real epidemic. also see his study of how the 2020 decline in prescriptions for antibiotics was proportional to "covid" deaths. denial of antibiotics for ILIs misattributed to "covid" were lethal to many of the most vulnerable
and then there's the mysterious disappearance of influenza, 2020-21, at least according to the cdc
mike yeadon has been out in front of everyone else on all of this, he doesn't jump the gun so any assertion he makes should be taken seriously.
btw IVM and HCQ are excellent flu medications
BINGO!!!
in Lombardy Italy, the median age of death was like 84 with 3-5 grave underlying medical condition...when the media spooked us they failed to tell us this...initially...we had to find it out ourselves.
And it’s interesting how greatly the IFRs differed between the different Northern Italy principalities. Downright revealing!
HUMAN CHALLENGE TRIAL FAIL 2024
Scientists tried to give people COVID — and failed
Researchers deliberately infect participants with SARS-CoV-2 in ‘challenge’ trials — but high levels of immunity complicate efforts to test vaccines and treatments.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-01284-1
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https://archive.md/2024.05.02-115311/https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-01284-1
I had long Covid for 14 months. Lots of brain fog and very lethargic. I finally found FLCCC treatment protocol for long COVID. I was 90% better in 15 minutes. Ivermectin, vitamin D and I believe quercetin too.
Quercetin too. Good stuff. I know a lady now who is sick right now with probably covid. She is vehemently anti-vaxx and thinks it's a cold. Fortunately, she is using turmeric, black pepper and ginger and I'm encouraging her to get sunlight and use quercetin.
good...she is on right track....use nasal oral wash too povidone iodine or hydrogen peroxide diluted.
Zero. Believe what you want.
My husband got Covid too but had the jab and did not get as sick. I am very glad I did not get the shot and I’m fine today….but give the devil his due….it SLIGHTY reduces Covid sickness for a couple of months. Of course, the jab is not worth the risk it is very dangerous and can cause death or severe injury.
Glad to hear you're fine today. I know a lady in her 30s who got long covid after her 2nd omicron infection. She's unjabbed. Not everybody who gets it is jabbed, regardless of what Jim believes. This lady is now disabled with dementia-like symptoms and in rehabilitation. She's socially isolated with nobody shedding on her at home but had pre-existing depression, which damages the endothelium, as does covid. Glad to hear you're fine today. Even mild covid is linked to substantial IQ loss. Covid appears to accelerate the aging process, including brain aging. Quercetin + long pepper may help to counter this effect.
Do you mean black pepper?
https://cannabislifenetwork.com/myanmar-recommended-cannabinoids-for-coronavirus/
Thank you very much for sharing this interesting article Gaye. Black pepper is great. Long pepper is a different species from the same genus. It can potentially substitute for the toxic chemotherapy drug dasatinib to fight covid related brain aging when combined with quercetin.
Senolytics show promise in combating brain aging and COVID-19 neuropathology
" ... human brain organoids (BOs) ... were treated with two doses of senolytics, such as the dasatinib-quercetin (D+Q) combination, ABT-737, and navitoclax, for one month at a two-week interval ... The researchers examined the associations of transcriptomic changes between COVID-19 patients and SARS-CoV-2-infected BOs ... Conclusions
Taken together, the study demonstrated that senescent cells accumulate in physiologically aged human BOs, with long-term senolytic intervention(s) substantially reducing cellular senescence and inflammation. Further, D+Q treatment uniquely induced anti-aging and pro-longevity gene expression changes in BOs."
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20231115/Senolytics-show-promise-in-combating-brain-aging-and-COVID-19-neuropathology.aspx
Computational identification of natural senotherapeutic compounds that mimic dasatinib based on gene expression data
"The four compounds, and in particular the top-runner piperlongumine, may be combined with quercetin to obtain natural formulas emulating the dasatinib + quercetin formula."
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-55870-4
Here’s what Dr Meryl Ness thinks
https://expose-news.com/2024/05/02/if-were-on-the-side-of-good-we-should-know-its-okay-to-have-differing-opinions/
She says:
The “No Virus” crowd demand the rest of us admit there was no covid. Some in this crowd demand we admit there are no viruses. Some have questioned the presence of bacteria as well. There are plenty of good people in this crowd. There are plenty of charlatans too. Have any of them actually grappled with the consequences of their theory?
If there was no covid, the indisputable corollaries are:
That there is no long covid. Buck up sick people, as you are in fact well. Or some of you have some other undiagnosed condition.
There is no treatment or preventive for covid since there was no covid. None of those remedies you took had any effect. Your apparent benefit was solely due to the power of suggestion.
Those of us who insist we treated covid are moronic doctors. Both sets of doctors are morons: those who used remdesivir and ventilators and those who used Vitamin D, hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. Most (99% plus) primary care docs and intensivists fit in one of those categories.
Fauci, Baric, Daszac, Zhengli-Shi etc. are guilty of nothing, since they failed to create a pandemic virus – because there was no virus. There will be no trials. There are no guilty parties. The entire pandemic and all its follow-on effects were due to collective psychosis, nothing more.
No one died from covid. Either they died from something else or they are still alive, somewhere.
What were people dying from in Lombardy, Wuhan and New York City and later everywhere else? Or was that faked? My son and his wife were caring for people who they knew (doctors and nurses) at New York Presbyterian Hospital and they thought they died from covid in March 2020. The hospital was overrun with such patients for a period of weeks. By the time travelling nurses were hired to deal with the high volume, the rush of cases had dissipated. If everyone (both patients and professionals) was wrapped up in a mass psychosis, why did the episode stop so quickly?
Had doctors begun a killing spree even at the very start of the pandemic, putting perfectly healthy people on ventilators, and giving them boluses of midazolam and morphine to ease their iatrogenic deaths, all over the world? Or was that practice limited to certain locations, like the UK?
Where is the evidence that people with normal oxygen levels were being placed on ventilators? (There is no such evidence.)
If there was no covid, then it did not spread. Family members and associates did not get it from index cases – yet the evidence says it spread within close associates.
If there was no covid, then Governor Cuomo and other Governors sending sick patients back to nursing homes to spread it to the elderly and infirm never actually happened. Then how do you explain that over 80% of deaths in many locations occurred in nursing homes?
I lived in Winnipeg.ca. In the beginning, our local paper reported deaths, by gender and age. I kept track for a while, and was shocked that all of a sudden so many elderly people were dying, day after day. A lot were in nursing homes. A year later, questions were asked in the legislature about what had happened. Why so many had died. No good reason was given. I understand that Canada has not been able to produce excess death data as yet. I’m not surprised.
80-90% of those who died in Canada died in nursing homes, Ontario worst hit
hhhmmm
If Yeadon is right then Dr Pierre Kory and Dr Tess Lawrie’s work on ivermectin has been in vain. Also the Wellness company is selling ivermectin which is worthless against a non existent virus. I find this mind boggling.
no, not so, IVM is not worthless, has its place. in my writing, read my white spaces. it has lots of detail
It has its great place against the clot shot spike, but not against Covid, which was Tess and Dr Kory’s original hope. So all those FLCCC peer reviewed papers that we all loved are worthless?
not saying so...it has and had its place...if you can disturb viral replication of course we do...
I don't think so. Dr. Kory's entire practice is now focused on Vax Injuries including Shedding of the Spiked Protein from vaxxed to unvaxxed. He now believes CV-19 was never released, and that Long Covid is in fact Long Vax. As for the usefulness of Ivermectin, it's very effective against vax injuries, and it's still great for all forms of coronaviruses, including the common cold, flu, and even Bird Flu. You don't need a dangerous and ineffective flu shot anymore.
good sharing
Hey, Doc. Heres an interesting piece you might like.
Where Is Klaus Schwab?
Head Of The World Economic Forum Is Missing
https://tinyurl.com/3d53tdnm
Hi SnapFactor. How do you know: . Dr. Kory's entire practice is now focused on Vax Injuries including Shedding of the Spiked Protein from vaxxed to unvaxxed. He now believes CV-19 was never released, and that Long Covid is in fact Long Vax?
I’m just asking. Are you in contact with him?
He's a frequent guest on Greg Hunter's USAWatchDog.Com
His position on Covid-19 and Long Covid has slowly migrated to a plandemic hoax and Long Covid being Long Vax.
I have created memes from these interviews for over two years now. I've got about five more waiting to be published.
https://x.com/SolarMelt/status/1778124676507558093
Ah yes! I’ve never been vaxed, but I did get 3 blood clots and pneumonia. This was before Covid. A great US doctor gave me confidence come off Rivaroxaban and take Nattokinase.
That was 6 years ago. I’ve never looked back.
The Japs are great! Ivermectin, Nattokinase, discover spike protein gets everywhere. We owe them!
So following your assertions Trump who touted Hyrdroxy along with his recently repeated vaccines saved hundreds of millions of lives during the pandemic is also NOT correct because he acknowledges a new virus? Also, you can't claim there is no virus and that its a chinese bio weapon funded by our own GOF research. Which is it people? I also remember you repeatedly touting Geert Vanden Bossche's advanced scientific understandings (I stand on the shoulders of these giants-roughly quoted) and he is currently proactively recommending hydroxy and IVM, prophylactically for the next virus coming before June due to our mass vaccination of healthy asymptomatic people in the middle of a pandemic, and thereby causing an even more viral & infectious, dare I say "virus". And now Dr Lawrie is a "WHO insider" promoting IVM and b/c Mike Yeadon called her out, you cross post under the auspices of his post. In case anyone reading your work gets misguided, I want to share my story. I've used IVM, and saved a dear, elderly loved one's life by following Lawrie's research papers that she personally did on IVM (have you personally done a meta analysis in a Cochrane style study?) & FLCCC protocols so much so that within 24 hr's she was breathing better and over the hump to recovery from her "no virus infection" At 80 she's been thru enough flu to recognize this viruses virulence and differentiators like glue in lungs. I also find it very odd that Yeadon's post ties' Wellness Co's McCullough with Lawrie's recommendations, yet the Wellness Co touts IVM too. I'm not sure why are this shit posting about virus no virus, who to hate, who not hate but it doesn't do the general cause any good. The enemy is after us and we keep dividing us on the inside with wasted bullshit, whose dick is bigger, whose first, who recommended masks then converted (Weinstein) and on and on it goes. Let me be even clearer. I stand with research on IVM. There is no controlled op going on w/Tess Lawrie if anyone with half a brain can critically think for themselves instead of being a psychophant
Victor, go do your homework...I actually was an employee of WHO, twice...Europe and DC...Tess was a consultant,...I was on payroll...Tess IS a smart lady but smart people can be wrong...I am not saying IVM does not work or HCQ...read my writing again...also, just to share, since you took a whack, people who go to Harvard and Yale and Stanford to study research methods, could not attend the place I did mine...I did my doctorate under the father of evidence based medicine and one more thing Vic, cochrane reviews, meta analyses, etc., it is my division that invented and refines and builds these methods...I have conducted cochrane reviews and they are bull shit...I am part of the teams that invented them, built the methods and its corrupt shit...that is why I stand on my own...they cant take me down for I will punish them technically...even in COVID....notice no one questions me...there is a reason for this...go read my background. I only responded to you this way to match your disrespect.
yes I stated it, dont by the cochrane review shit, its shit, I help refine the methods...I could make it say what I want it to say.
Where were you during the Trump administration when it mattered most since you have/had all the answers? I only responded to you this way to match your disrespect. Excuse the hell out of me, I thought good science allowed open debate
As I said I have the highest regard for Mike Yeadon, English like me! But there’s an awful lot of work done by Kory etc that will have to be thrown out as false. And what about those amazing results in India? How to explain that States which used ivermectin had a GIGANTIC drop in Covid deaths?
In Peru, excess deaths decreased 14-fold between August 1 and December 1, 2020, concurrent with a massive, nationwide distribution of ivermectin that began in August 2020. Then, after a new president was elected on November 17 who restricted the use of ivermectin, excess deaths increased 13-fold from December 1, 2020, to February 1, 2021. Although correlation does not necessarily imply causation, a rigorous state-by-state analysis of ivermectin use in Peru’s 25 states using national health data that aligned with WHO summary data (the same data source as for the chart above) showed that in this case, ivermectin clearly caused the reductions in deaths observed. The analysis found a correlation between the extent of ivermectin use and reductions in excess deaths, by state, with p < 0.002, and no indication of any significant effect by several potential confounding factors considered [20].
In Uttar Pradesh, the largest state in India, having a population of 229 million, COVID-19 deaths fell by 97%, between May 7 and July 7, 2021, after a mass distribution of ivermectin, doxycycline, zinc with vitamins and acetaminophen tablets that began on May 5, 2021. The cumulative total of COVID-19 deaths per million population in Uttar Pradesh from July 7, 2021, to April 1, 2023, was 0.27% of that figure in the US for the same period [20].
https://open.substack.com/pub/2ndsmartestguyintheworld/p/landmark-new-publication-the-forgotten?r=llw32&utm_medium=ios
Pradesh, you mentioned doxycycline...go re-read what I am asking...it may have been the magnus opus of the early
Ro dont discount natural immunity, or hygiene hypothesis, or vastly young age group median age...way younger than north America.
I do like Dr Mike Yeadon a lot. He’s been in since the start and is not a grifter. But it’s a BIG step to say there is no virus. I wish I knew who is right on this.
Ro, to a certain extent, I think we’re trying to figure out how many angels can dance on the head of a pin ( or something like that). The bigger picture is where we need to focus. This pandemic was crafted by humans: deadly declaration, cowardly citizens, governments, scientists, hospitals, etc. and many were downright evil. I think we’re getting through the many obfuscations thrown in to confound everything.
yes
re: Angels....that medieval argument centered on the actual materiality of angels. And you are right on point applying that to this current predicament. What has been accomplished, going past the middle ages, is the creation of a Tower of Babel. We all now are odds with each other, do not know what or whom to trust, and highly subject to manipulation. We have, it seems, created God in our own image.
I totally agree Steve. And yes they really want to split and weaken us.
But I feel it’s time this question must be answered. It’s been hanging around for years, whether viruses exist. And that’s a separate question to whether it’s just this ‘virus’ that is a lie.
excellent exchange...and answering this is profound...I tend to think something does, maybe pieces of genetic material, maybe a toxin from the entity etc...something...
Well, my feeling, which pretty much counts for nothing, is whether or not it was a “virus,” it was at least a lot of somethings.
yes, thats the issue and IMO, something was not necessarily a virus that we confronted.
Boom!
From day one I reckoned a flu that was grabbed hold of for an evil agenda!?
My last comment here.
https://www.thedesertreview.com/news/national/ivermectin-obliterates-97-percent-of-delhi-cases/article_6a3be6b2-c31f-11eb-836d-2722d2325a08.html
India got the clot shots on 16th January 2021.
In the period April 20th - May 27th
DEHLI TOOK IVERMECTIN
Dehli - 28,395 cases and rising. Ivermectin acheived a 97% reduction in 5 weeks.
Dehli - deaths IN THE SAME PERIOD fell from 277 to 117
TAMIL NADU REFUSED IVERMECTIN
Tamil Nadu - new cases rose from 10,986 to 36,184 – a tripling. 300% INCREASE
Tamil Nadu - deaths skyrocketed from 48 on April 20 to 474 on May 27 – a rise of ten-fold
Unfortunately these figures are taken about 3 months after the death shot vax was administered. So Mike Yeadon could say Ah the difference can be explained by the KILLING effect of the ‘vaccines’.
But over 3 months not even the clot shots could achieve this difference. And the case clear up is simply huge. Indian’s have to be tough to survive, but that early delta virus really knocked them out. Remember they don’t have much in the way of welfare out there, if they don’t work, they starve. So something knocked them out. And these states and cities have vast populations ( 100 million + ) so it was statistically significant. SOMETHING knocked them out and KILLED a lot of them. Ivermectin killed this something on a vast scale. What could it be Mike?
My friend is from India. Her parents are physicians. All doctors in their state were given HCQ prophylacticly in 2020. This friend, her husband, and children visited family in India in Dec of 2021 and got very sick with the Rona (whatever it was— virus, poison, pollution, bioweapon, etc.). They went to the corner drugstore (or our equivalent but much more) and everyone got a “COVID” packet with IVM, doxycycline, NAC, zinc, Vit D, Vit C, etc.). Better within hours. So, yes, people on the ground confirm that IVM was being used for this illness in India. They even brought the packet list home with them.
That’s a great first hand experience Sassy..