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DUANE HAYES's avatar

Bull s hit. You've full of it. There has been a detailed analysis of how Hamas pulled it off. It was years in the planning. Yes, they took the IDF by surprise. But to accuse IDF and Mossad as involved is the height of imbecilic. At one time Israel did think that Hamas was the less radical of the Palestinians, but that didn't last long.

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JoeMichel's avatar

Bull shit to you Duane and Paul. Israel is the perpetrator and the evil committing genocide. They also allowed and embellished Oct 7 to legitimize this criminal and unprovoked carnage

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Dr. Paul Alexander's avatar

can we have a debate, sharing without sides and insults and the like? what good is to have these sites if you wish a one sided debate? did you read my writing? how much more balanced can I be?

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Gene's avatar

You seem to forget the 2 to 3000 missiles HAMAS attempted to drop on Israel and where they came from, IRAN. And where has HAMAS been as a governing body all these decades Building an economic, social, and infrastructure set of projects and policies to help the Palestinian people to a richer, more productive life style…instead HAMAS chose terror and weaponry, the Palestinian people lost the “Guns vs Butter” trade off with HAMAS in charge!

This is your neighbor:

An irritable snotty hater who wants to destroy you and keeps their people without proper infrastructure or economic opportunity by design!

Is Israel totally clean, no; But Al Capone at least took care of his own, unlike HANAS.

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AwakeNotWoke's avatar

Don't be like the dumb Palestinians, most of whom are unjabbed. Be like the Israelis, most of whom are jabbed. In fact, Israelis are among the most jabbed people on earth. In the face of the deadly coronavirus they bravely raced to get jabbed. Commendable. Inspiring. Courageous. Show solidarity with Israel by going and getting a booster.

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Dr. Paul Alexander's avatar

medically, you are correct, Israel was the beta testing ground for the deadly vaccine...

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Norm Crenshaw's avatar

If you're taking all the mrna shots, you're lucky to be healthy.

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Dr. Paul Alexander's avatar

correct

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AwakeNotWoke's avatar

If you n want that they may be addictive you could be correct. A German fellow apparently got hooked on them.

German patient vaccinated against Covid 217 times

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-68477735

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Rina's avatar

Is this a joke?

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AwakeNotWoke's avatar

When in Rome do as the Romans do. Therefore, when in the USA do as the Israelis do. Get into the mRNA jabs. I hear they saved 100 million lives.

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Dr. Paul Alexander's avatar

Israel has a huge medical issue now, lots of harms with the vaccine...a disaster

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JoeMichel's avatar

That's idiotic!

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AwakeNotWoke's avatar

How ungrateful can you be? Israel gave the Genesis Prize to Albert Bourla, CEO of Pfizer. Many of the jabbed might never have been jabbed if not for Israel.

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Dog's avatar

Right, 10 million Israelis came here and ushered Americans to the jab sites and helped pin them down in the chair. Oh wait, I see, you mean that Israel is such a taste maker for others like you that tens of millions of Americans followed their lead and that's why they got vaxxed.

What amazing insight you have.

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Gene's avatar

That makes you obedient, and propagandized, not particularly well informed, perhaps the media in Israel is as bad or worse about rooting out and telling the truth as they are in the US about what the government wants us to know!

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Dr. Paul Alexander's avatar

thank you

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UZMi's avatar

You say that you are "balanced"? Are you for real??

Than why are you thanking people from your echo chamber and not checking out information that counter your predetermined and media formed view??

Only one look at this map shows you that it has NEVER been a defense, but planned OFFENCE.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Mohamed-Buheji/publication/378482435/figure/fig1/AS:11431281225750147@1708946919596/Figure-1-Showing-the-Loss-of-the-Palestinian-Land-and-the-Segregation-of-Palestinians.jpg

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Figure-1-Showing-the-Loss-of-the-Palestinian-Land-and-the-Segregation-of-Palestinians_fig1_378482435

Do you know what "Audiatur et altera pars" stands for and why is it one of the most important postulates of the judiciary system?? (and in dealing with information in general)

yfi: You (and all of us) were at the receiving end (especially) these last 4 years because that postulate has been deliberately DISMISSED.

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DUANE HAYES's avatar

What are you a Muslim? The Qur'an says, "war is deceit". This is what lying Hamas is doing every day by pronouncing the highly inflated death toll. They purposely use human shields, they hide in hospitals, schools, in the hopes that more civilians will be killed, and the more martyrs they can show off to world opinion the better.

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Dr. Paul Alexander's avatar

I love the exchange and would ask to stay decent and civil, we learn from each other.

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DUANE HAYES's avatar

Sometimes the comments are so outrageous, it's difficult to remain decent and civil.

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tony c's avatar

Years in the making and Mossad who is the world's best intelligence service did NOT know about coming and waited hours before anything was done.. Thus they let those poor women etc be mauled and in ways that are beyond criminal and of course Netanyahu and his corrupt associates have the major responsibility for this.. Netanyahu has been under pressure for years to resign and go away but he is stubborn and continues to greatly damage the good Jewish people.. and also during the Covid Pandemic Scam The Jewish people were made the lab rats by Pfizzzzer to test the MRNA shots and note that Bourla the PFizzzzer head his name very appropriately means to LIE Italian.. We must feel sorry for the good Jewish people since they have enemies from within and from all sides!

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c Anderson's avatar

I thought the US had the best intelligence in the world? How about our intelligence missing the Oklahoma City bombing? What about the Boston Marathon bombing? And what about the 800 illegals who rushed the border recently? I’d say that was well organized as they were being observed by guards. How could we miss so much? Maybe we need to hire Mossad? https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2024/03/21/migrant-rush-texas-border-lavandera-lead-vpx.cnn

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Dr. Paul Alexander's avatar

funny but interesting...20,000 illegals per day

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

c Anderson - OK City bombing and the Bostin Marathon stuff were both inside jobs. OK City was planned and carried out by the FBI and their patsies. Boston was also planned as a FF and some crisis actors were used, like the ones in the wheel chairs pretending to have had their legs blown off, when they were already legless.

I tend to believe that the IDF knew about this and allowed it. Israel's Mossad is the partner to the CIA. Both are deep state terrorists.

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Dr. Paul Alexander's avatar

hhmmm, some good sage in this

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c Anderson's avatar

Dave, you know I love you man, but Hamas is an arm of the Muslim Brotherhood, and you might want to check out their flag as a representation of what they stand for. Yep, two swords crossed and holding up a Koran. Israel’s flag is the Star of David. This is just one obvious point to consider. Where are the receipts for your claim that Israel created a false flag to take out Hamas? Hamas IS a terrorist group. Wiki says “The group's founder accepted the utility of political violence and members of the Brotherhood conducted assassinations…. The organization doctrine permits "the stigmatisation of other Muslims as infidel or apostate, and of existing states as unIslamic, and the use of extreme violence in the pursuit of the perfect Islamic society"; this doctrine continues to inspire many Jihadist movements.” They don’t even like other Muslims! You can write this information off as slanted, but something is wrong with people who group together to focus on violence against just about everyone who doesn’t believe the way they do!

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DUANE HAYES's avatar

You must be a flat earther. You believe that 9/11 was done by the US government? You believe the moon walk came from a Hollywood studio? They caught and executed the two who did Oklahoma, they caught the Boston Jihadists, none of that was "inside".

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Lucy's avatar

You are completely brainwashed. Congratulations

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DUANE HAYES's avatar

I'm going with verifiable facts, not tin foil hat conspiracy theories.

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tony c's avatar

Irregardless of Intelligence failure It is sure that The current corrupt Israeli Govt is a disgrace to the Jewish people and does Not represent them many Us Jewish politicians and jewish friends agree and it it the type of Jewish govt that brings in extremists..

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tony c's avatar

Also American Jews are Now suffering and being harassed and discriminated again because of the extreme reactions of the current Jewish illegal corrupt government.. This is NOT good for the Jewish people.. I read the European news and they agree with me and I feel sorry for the Jewish people because of the backlash they are and will continue to get because of the current corrupt Israeli government and the permanent damage it will cause

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DUANE HAYES's avatar

With great planning that took years, and hundreds of Palestinian spies, and funding and help from Iran, they did the attack. They waited for a holiday. There's a detailed explanation of how they did the attack. Look at Pearl Harbor, look at D day. With planning and stealth these attacks can occur.

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Norm Crenshaw's avatar

Even if you take mossad by surprise, they have electronic monitoring of every inch of their wall. If you think they don't use technology...

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DUANE HAYES's avatar

The Palestinians shot out all the surveillance cameras. The Palestinian workers (spies) were able to examine all of the fence and determine how to disable all the technology. The planning for this took years. Consider all of Gaza with hundreds of mile of tunnels, was all designed to attack and destroy Israel, Gaza was one big Jihadist camp. Gaza receives $230 million per month in aid, but Hamas controls all of it and they spent the bulk of that money to build their terror network. With all that money and their determination to wipe out all of Israel, don't you see that the Oct attack was easy for them to do?

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tony c's avatar

So how come you know all this and Nobody else in the world of Israel, the Us etc and the CIA Mossad etc did Not know this?? You must be the world's most knowledgeable person? Please explain how you did this and maybe train Assad and the CIA to better do their job.. So that we have no more Pearl Harbor, 9/11 etc etc Thank You!

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DUANE HAYES's avatar

This is all well publicized; you must not read any of the news. The Geller Report follows all these events, I recommend that you subscribe.

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Lucy's avatar

Smart people do not believe anything that the mainstream media says. They know it is the exact opposite.

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DUANE HAYES's avatar

I certainly know that the MSM is biased and lie. But when they reported on the Oklahoma bombing and 9/11, I found very few lies or propaganda, they did report what really happened. Concrete events, those witnessed by thousands, documented by hard core evidence, are hard to manipulate.

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UZMi's avatar

Detailed analysis by whom? CIA/Israel Mockingbird media who sold you "safe and effective vaccines"?

Saying that IDF and Mossad are taken by surprise is imbecilic.

Israel is the most advanced state in the world in software surveillance tech. made by UNIT 8200 and Talpiot program.

Inform yourself before you open your mouth and start insulting others with your ignorance.

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DUANE HAYES's avatar

Surprised that X doesn't remove some of Abduls postings as being false.

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DUANE HAYES's avatar

Good article below of how the IDF is handling the war and protecting civilians,. read all the way to bottom

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DUANE HAYES's avatar

Look at what Rama Abdul is posting on X. Every bit of it is Hamas propaganda. He even posts the false story of the food truck and the lie that Israeli troops opened fire. This guy works for and is paid by Hamas.

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Dr. Paul Alexander's avatar

issue though Duane is on all sides, we must have free speech, even what I or you or he or they do not like...and I appreciate your sharings and all sharings to help inform...again, even if speech offends, someone else has the same right as you...

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DUANE HAYES's avatar

Look at how this is worded, "A Israeli airstrike targeted UN employee's" It's possible that an Israeli airstrike hit these people, but it's impossible that Israel "targeted" these people, they wouldn't do this on purpose. If they targeted anyone, it would be Hamas terrorists. Remember the big food trucks and the big crowd, Hamas said that Israeli's purposely shot hundreds dead. Turns out that the deaths were from people being run over and crushed by the trucks in the hysteria.

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DUANE HAYES's avatar

Too early to know the truth, if this is a Hamas news release, then it's suspect. Remember the hospital bombing? Hamas said 500 killed by an Israeli bomb. Turns out it was a Hamas rocket that landed in the hospital parking lot, maybe 50 killed.

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