I completely agree. If they hadn't made such a fuzz about it, hardly anyone would have noticed that a new virus was going around. Maybe some would have wondered that the flu season was a little more intense than usual, but that's it. I have one addition however: It was not just your inept stupid idiotic specious corrupted morons in the U…
I completely agree. If they hadn't made such a fuzz about it, hardly anyone would have noticed that a new virus was going around. Maybe some would have wondered that the flu season was a little more intense than usual, but that's it. I have one addition however: It was not just your inept stupid idiotic specious corrupted morons in the US. Italy started it. Spain followed a few days later. Then the US jumped on the train that was already running. Right from the beginning, this whole moronic lunacy was global.
As an inpatient nurse I didn't watch the news during the covid peak and I can assure you it was a nightmare in my hospital in California and we weren't the only one as I could see the numbers in our 13 other hospitals.
How was it compared to previous years? There have been nightmare stories every flu season: Overcrowded hospitals, flu patients having to wait in the corridor, queues of ambulances in front of the clinic, health care system collapsing .. I have been hearing stories like this every year.
Like night and day. We have never been faced with lack of beds like this for flu. My floor became the med-surg covid floor and they installed a curtain so they could put a second bed in all of our rooms. My floor is supposed to be primarily surgery and I stopped floating on my regular days to other units a few years back but we have never had so many flu patients occupying beds. The last year I floated during a flu season I would have 2 out of 4 or 5 patients with the flu. (That was also the year I realized the flu vaxxed were ill with one of the strains that was also in their vaccine.) Keep in mind that most surgeries were cancelled during the covid surge so more beds were available for covid and they got filled. We have always had a wide variety of inpatient diagnoses during flu season. There are always periods when the ER had to turn away ambulances and beds may be short but it has never been primarily because of the flu. And from what I have been seeing we will continue being busy with mostly non-covid/flu, though the number had started to tick up last week with covid. ER waits have been bad as well as urgent care, but it doesn't appear to be the flu. And as we all know the media is doing their part to scare people into getting their flu vaccine and they have been doing it for years. The CDC has been putting out scare numbers of flu deaths for years which are based on estimates, not actual confirmed flu cases.
Can you explain to us how the best medical system in the world with the best people and the best hospitals and the best care could agree to an approach to a bad influenza-like illness that included delayed or no treatment, cooperation with directions from on high to use only the medicines such as "Your Death is Near" dictated to them by the CDC, use of ventilators that blew peoples' lungs out, that denied family members the ability to see their family members, that admitted -- in essence -- that the typical symptoms of this infection for the vast, vast majority was beyond the capability of the best medical system in the world with the best people and the best hospitals and the best care??
P.S. Thorsten is right -- and remember, the Mendacious Midget™ was warning us all that the 2019-2020 flu season was going to be the worst in a decade...
Do you think hospital staff have anything to do with this decision-making? It can only be corruption and greed. It is almost like you want to place some of the blame on me. I had nothing to do with those decisions and we were seen as disposable from the beginning as they locked up gowns, gloves and masks and then rationed them out. They got permission from our governor to temporarily get rid of staffing ratios which did nothing for patient or worker safety. The doctors from FLCCC didn't have anything to do with those decisions either as they worked to find protocols that would heal people. And I think your previous trust in allopathic medicine was naive and misplaced.
As I said, Pamela -- criminal conduct. Thank you for confirming it with additional details.
As for my "trust" in allopathic medicine, I have no such thing. That should be obvious; this suggests I must do more to make my disdain more plain...
I avoid doctors and have done so for decades -- and I managed to get through this crime without getting the "COV!D". I merely mentioned the symptoms and asked what put them beyond -- to use your word -- allopathic medicine. I've been waiting for an answer to that question going on three years now.
You're asking the wrong person. I've had a target on my back for years for not going along with the program and my job was threatened and I was hung out to dry by my union. Please ask them and the administrators who make millions every year.
Well, good for you, Pamela. I can imagine how hard it must be to go against the grain in the system you're in. I lost my career and full retirement as a result of this crime and my refusal to go along -- even if it meant my career and health insurance and job and income and full retirement.
As for those criminal creeps in hospital administration making millions? They're on the list of those who will be prosecuted for their enablement and enactment of this crime against humanity.
We lived in MA near Boston for nearly 30 years, leaving in 2020. To be told on the one hand -- almost all the time -- that the best and most super duperest people in the whole wide world work in the best and most super duper hospitals in and around Boston -- and then to have them all say, essentially, "Oh, yeah...these symptoms? Yeah, we don't know what the hell we're doin'. Can't help ya. Stay home until you turn blue, then we'll see if we can do somethin' for you."
𝑹𝒆𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒚?
So true re Ivermectin. Plus Dr. Zelenko's protocol as another option, plus any number of other well-known and safe medicines such as Budesonide (or OTC Pulmicort) to ease inflammation before things got so bad that it couldn't be treated.
Virtually everyone I knew -- friends and colleagues -- knew where I came out on this crime right outta the gate. May I ask what is going on that prompts you to say that the "entire state is in the toilet"?
As for those pockets in MA, so interesting you should say that. As an outsider early on, I made observations about MA and in particular the Boston/Cambridge area. I shared with my hubs that it seemed that the people in the area lived in a 'bubble."
Between "big academia," "big medicine," "big pharma," "big finance," "big tech," and the military/industrial complex (Raytheon, for example), Bay State residents lived in "the system," and would do everything to protect themselves within it. Boston/Cambridge always seemed to come back sooner than other parts of the country when downturns happened -- and it's so obvious why.
So, when the psychos started to announce their crime, I tried to point out that it was a crime, but there weren't nobody around with ears to hear.
I said my hospital was overwhelmed-with too many patients and too few beds and staff. I don't discount how badly covid was managed. I know it and tried to educate my fellow nurses every time I learned something new. I also spoke to a few doctors who are patient advocates. I also educated patients when I had relevant information. When I discovered the FLCCC protocol I went to the ID doctor and asked if he had heard about it. I used the protocol on friends, myself and family. What happened was horrible, but when people say it was just a different strain of the flu; it is a false statement. And I guess you missed the part about our morgue being beyond capacity. That wasn't normal. My post wasn't about me being overworked with 12 patients and working OT; it was about what was happening to the people getting sick with covid when treatment protocols were in the early stages with the FLCCC. But for the record; lots of us still have some PTSD because we care about people and what they and their family went through.
So doctors were seeing and treating people as early as possible? As per usual...you know, early treatment saves lives. Early detection, early treatment saves lives. Or because people obeyed orders from psychopaths to stay in their homes, they were unable to get care -- or believed that no medicines existed to treat their symptoms because the source was some new "novel" virus thing??? What difference does the source of symptoms make??
"People with COVID-19 have had a wide range of symptoms reported – ranging from mild symptoms to severe illness. Symptoms may appear 2-14 days after exposure to the virus. Anyone can have mild to severe symptoms.
Possible symptoms include:
Fever or chills
Cough
Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
Fatigue
Muscle or body aches
Headache
New loss of taste or smell
Sore throat
Congestion or runny nose
Nausea or vomiting
Diarrhea
So, doctors refusing to see patients and give them anything for the above had nothing whatsoever to do with all these hospitals getting overwhelmed when untreated sick people got so sick they needed the hospital????
P.S. I have no interest in hearing about "strains" of anything. I want to know on what basis the people of this country are supposed to believe that these typical symptoms--treated at first indication--lay beyond the expertise of medical professionals to treat. Answer? They don't.
I am addressing you, Pamela. I'm asking what made the CDC's list of symptoms untreatable? I'm asking how doctors agreed to reverse overnight one of the basic aspects of medicine -- at the first signs of symptoms, seek care. I'm asking what difference does the source of symptoms make? Are the above so foreign that they would flummox doctors, making early care impossible?
I'll bet you worked very hard, but you did so in large part due to criminal conduct, Pamela, not because some "novel" virus came along. That criminal conduct included denying early care and treatment to uncountable numbers of innocent people who believed that their symptoms lay beyond the capabilities of the alleged-to-be best doctors and best hospitals and best healthcare in the world.
So after reading all of my comments why would you be asking these questions of a floor nurse who figured out that covid was treatable after studying the research and protocol from FLCCC and who has sought to educate others on what she learned? My original comment on this substack was that this was not just like another flu strain and I gave my reasons based on actual experience for my comment.
I figured out "COV!D" was treatable, too, Pamela -- long before I ever heard of the FLCCC.
The question that remains unanswered is why so many doctors thought otherwise and permitted people to become deathly ill. You mention the condition of patients you saw at this point in their illness, Pamela...the seriously ill.
Did you see patients with the sniffles, body aches, cough, fever, headache, sore throat, etc.? Or as a floor nurse in a hospital only those for whom untreated symptoms, including inflammation, had put their condition beyond care/treatment?
I can tell you that many doctors and nurses still completely trust the advice and directives. Few are open to possibilities that I know at my hospital. 99% of the patients were admitted because they required oxygen. I still don't understand why you are asking me these questions. I know early treatment and appropriate treatment would've changed the outcome for many.
Did you not question why these people seeking early treatment in hospitals were turned away and told essentially, not to come back until at death's door?
Knowing of therapeutic protocols such as Zelenko's and FLCCC, were there no discussions about using, or at the very least, recommending these protocols to newly infected who came for hospital treatment?
Or perhaps, were you already under CDC protocols mandating expensive (read PROFITABLE) Big Pharma meds like Remdesivir, respirators and intubation?
I completely agree. If they hadn't made such a fuzz about it, hardly anyone would have noticed that a new virus was going around. Maybe some would have wondered that the flu season was a little more intense than usual, but that's it. I have one addition however: It was not just your inept stupid idiotic specious corrupted morons in the US. Italy started it. Spain followed a few days later. Then the US jumped on the train that was already running. Right from the beginning, this whole moronic lunacy was global.
As an inpatient nurse I didn't watch the news during the covid peak and I can assure you it was a nightmare in my hospital in California and we weren't the only one as I could see the numbers in our 13 other hospitals.
How was it compared to previous years? There have been nightmare stories every flu season: Overcrowded hospitals, flu patients having to wait in the corridor, queues of ambulances in front of the clinic, health care system collapsing .. I have been hearing stories like this every year.
Like night and day. We have never been faced with lack of beds like this for flu. My floor became the med-surg covid floor and they installed a curtain so they could put a second bed in all of our rooms. My floor is supposed to be primarily surgery and I stopped floating on my regular days to other units a few years back but we have never had so many flu patients occupying beds. The last year I floated during a flu season I would have 2 out of 4 or 5 patients with the flu. (That was also the year I realized the flu vaxxed were ill with one of the strains that was also in their vaccine.) Keep in mind that most surgeries were cancelled during the covid surge so more beds were available for covid and they got filled. We have always had a wide variety of inpatient diagnoses during flu season. There are always periods when the ER had to turn away ambulances and beds may be short but it has never been primarily because of the flu. And from what I have been seeing we will continue being busy with mostly non-covid/flu, though the number had started to tick up last week with covid. ER waits have been bad as well as urgent care, but it doesn't appear to be the flu. And as we all know the media is doing their part to scare people into getting their flu vaccine and they have been doing it for years. The CDC has been putting out scare numbers of flu deaths for years which are based on estimates, not actual confirmed flu cases.
Can you explain to us how the best medical system in the world with the best people and the best hospitals and the best care could agree to an approach to a bad influenza-like illness that included delayed or no treatment, cooperation with directions from on high to use only the medicines such as "Your Death is Near" dictated to them by the CDC, use of ventilators that blew peoples' lungs out, that denied family members the ability to see their family members, that admitted -- in essence -- that the typical symptoms of this infection for the vast, vast majority was beyond the capability of the best medical system in the world with the best people and the best hospitals and the best care??
P.S. Thorsten is right -- and remember, the Mendacious Midget™ was warning us all that the 2019-2020 flu season was going to be the worst in a decade...
Do you think hospital staff have anything to do with this decision-making? It can only be corruption and greed. It is almost like you want to place some of the blame on me. I had nothing to do with those decisions and we were seen as disposable from the beginning as they locked up gowns, gloves and masks and then rationed them out. They got permission from our governor to temporarily get rid of staffing ratios which did nothing for patient or worker safety. The doctors from FLCCC didn't have anything to do with those decisions either as they worked to find protocols that would heal people. And I think your previous trust in allopathic medicine was naive and misplaced.
As I said, Pamela -- criminal conduct. Thank you for confirming it with additional details.
As for my "trust" in allopathic medicine, I have no such thing. That should be obvious; this suggests I must do more to make my disdain more plain...
I avoid doctors and have done so for decades -- and I managed to get through this crime without getting the "COV!D". I merely mentioned the symptoms and asked what put them beyond -- to use your word -- allopathic medicine. I've been waiting for an answer to that question going on three years now.
You're asking the wrong person. I've had a target on my back for years for not going along with the program and my job was threatened and I was hung out to dry by my union. Please ask them and the administrators who make millions every year.
Well, good for you, Pamela. I can imagine how hard it must be to go against the grain in the system you're in. I lost my career and full retirement as a result of this crime and my refusal to go along -- even if it meant my career and health insurance and job and income and full retirement.
As for those criminal creeps in hospital administration making millions? They're on the list of those who will be prosecuted for their enablement and enactment of this crime against humanity.
I witnessed a mass hysteria take hold at my local hospital here in MA...
Yes, people die in hospitals. Always have, always will.
You were overwhelmed. Believe me, many a patient was overwhelmed as well.
A little Ivermectin could saved both nurse and patient needless misery...
We lived in MA near Boston for nearly 30 years, leaving in 2020. To be told on the one hand -- almost all the time -- that the best and most super duperest people in the whole wide world work in the best and most super duper hospitals in and around Boston -- and then to have them all say, essentially, "Oh, yeah...these symptoms? Yeah, we don't know what the hell we're doin'. Can't help ya. Stay home until you turn blue, then we'll see if we can do somethin' for you."
𝑹𝒆𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒚?
So true re Ivermectin. Plus Dr. Zelenko's protocol as another option, plus any number of other well-known and safe medicines such as Budesonide (or OTC Pulmicort) to ease inflammation before things got so bad that it couldn't be treated.
You got outta here just in the nick of time!
The entire state is in the toilet...
Oh, wow. Really?
Virtually everyone I knew -- friends and colleagues -- knew where I came out on this crime right outta the gate. May I ask what is going on that prompts you to say that the "entire state is in the toilet"?
There exist pockets of sanity but IMO the state is gone. Captured if you will.
I've seen your posts here and there and thought "cool lady"...
Oh...thank you! ❤️
As for those pockets in MA, so interesting you should say that. As an outsider early on, I made observations about MA and in particular the Boston/Cambridge area. I shared with my hubs that it seemed that the people in the area lived in a 'bubble."
Between "big academia," "big medicine," "big pharma," "big finance," "big tech," and the military/industrial complex (Raytheon, for example), Bay State residents lived in "the system," and would do everything to protect themselves within it. Boston/Cambridge always seemed to come back sooner than other parts of the country when downturns happened -- and it's so obvious why.
So, when the psychos started to announce their crime, I tried to point out that it was a crime, but there weren't nobody around with ears to hear.
Bingo! You described the decline of MA to a tee.
I said my hospital was overwhelmed-with too many patients and too few beds and staff. I don't discount how badly covid was managed. I know it and tried to educate my fellow nurses every time I learned something new. I also spoke to a few doctors who are patient advocates. I also educated patients when I had relevant information. When I discovered the FLCCC protocol I went to the ID doctor and asked if he had heard about it. I used the protocol on friends, myself and family. What happened was horrible, but when people say it was just a different strain of the flu; it is a false statement. And I guess you missed the part about our morgue being beyond capacity. That wasn't normal. My post wasn't about me being overworked with 12 patients and working OT; it was about what was happening to the people getting sick with covid when treatment protocols were in the early stages with the FLCCC. But for the record; lots of us still have some PTSD because we care about people and what they and their family went through.
So doctors were seeing and treating people as early as possible? As per usual...you know, early treatment saves lives. Early detection, early treatment saves lives. Or because people obeyed orders from psychopaths to stay in their homes, they were unable to get care -- or believed that no medicines existed to treat their symptoms because the source was some new "novel" virus thing??? What difference does the source of symptoms make??
From the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/symptoms-testing/symptoms.html
"People with COVID-19 have had a wide range of symptoms reported – ranging from mild symptoms to severe illness. Symptoms may appear 2-14 days after exposure to the virus. Anyone can have mild to severe symptoms.
Possible symptoms include:
Fever or chills
Cough
Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
Fatigue
Muscle or body aches
Headache
New loss of taste or smell
Sore throat
Congestion or runny nose
Nausea or vomiting
Diarrhea
So, doctors refusing to see patients and give them anything for the above had nothing whatsoever to do with all these hospitals getting overwhelmed when untreated sick people got so sick they needed the hospital????
P.S. I have no interest in hearing about "strains" of anything. I want to know on what basis the people of this country are supposed to believe that these typical symptoms--treated at first indication--lay beyond the expertise of medical professionals to treat. Answer? They don't.
Not sure who you are addressing because if it is me you haven't actually read what I have posted.
I am addressing you, Pamela. I'm asking what made the CDC's list of symptoms untreatable? I'm asking how doctors agreed to reverse overnight one of the basic aspects of medicine -- at the first signs of symptoms, seek care. I'm asking what difference does the source of symptoms make? Are the above so foreign that they would flummox doctors, making early care impossible?
I'll bet you worked very hard, but you did so in large part due to criminal conduct, Pamela, not because some "novel" virus came along. That criminal conduct included denying early care and treatment to uncountable numbers of innocent people who believed that their symptoms lay beyond the capabilities of the alleged-to-be best doctors and best hospitals and best healthcare in the world.
So after reading all of my comments why would you be asking these questions of a floor nurse who figured out that covid was treatable after studying the research and protocol from FLCCC and who has sought to educate others on what she learned? My original comment on this substack was that this was not just like another flu strain and I gave my reasons based on actual experience for my comment.
I figured out "COV!D" was treatable, too, Pamela -- long before I ever heard of the FLCCC.
The question that remains unanswered is why so many doctors thought otherwise and permitted people to become deathly ill. You mention the condition of patients you saw at this point in their illness, Pamela...the seriously ill.
Did you see patients with the sniffles, body aches, cough, fever, headache, sore throat, etc.? Or as a floor nurse in a hospital only those for whom untreated symptoms, including inflammation, had put their condition beyond care/treatment?
I can tell you that many doctors and nurses still completely trust the advice and directives. Few are open to possibilities that I know at my hospital. 99% of the patients were admitted because they required oxygen. I still don't understand why you are asking me these questions. I know early treatment and appropriate treatment would've changed the outcome for many.
Did you not question why these people seeking early treatment in hospitals were turned away and told essentially, not to come back until at death's door?
Knowing of therapeutic protocols such as Zelenko's and FLCCC, were there no discussions about using, or at the very least, recommending these protocols to newly infected who came for hospital treatment?
Or perhaps, were you already under CDC protocols mandating expensive (read PROFITABLE) Big Pharma meds like Remdesivir, respirators and intubation?