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It takes a special type of stupid to swallow the bullshit that Bush peddled back in 2003 about Saddam having an active WMDs program. Anyone with two functioning brain cells knew immediately that he was full of shit. I remember looking at and listening to gullible dumbf*cks preaching self-righteously about the sacred mission to stop the non-existent WMDs from falling into the hands of terrorists and thinking "PT Barnum was right.There's one of these retarded suckers born every minute." Then they went off and butchered a million civilians in Iraq, thinking they were "winning hearts and minds" and making those who escaped the butchering less likely to become terrorists. The con artists behind all of this were the spooks.

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All too true, sadly.

I also want to remind everyone of Colin Powell's major role in propagandizing the Iraqi "weapons of mass destruction" lie.

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Colon Powell's behavior, like that of Nancy Pelosi, was disgraceful. Pelosi failed the nation when she failed to impeach the war criminal GW Bush. Trump once praised Pelosi and called her "impressive." She was, at one time, but she failed. Trump also said that Bill Clinton should not have been impeached, over something unimportant. Trump compulsively speaks the truth, even when the GOP doesn't want to hear it.

Trump Defends Comment That George W. Bush Should Be Impeached For Iraq: "They Lied"

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katherinemiller/trump-defends-comment-that-george-w-bush-should-be-impeached

That Time Trump Called for George W Bush’s Impeachment – and Dismissed Bill Clinton’s as ‘Nonsense’ (Video)

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/time-trump-called-george-w-181344985.html

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Great observation: "Trump compulsively speaks the truth, even when the GOP doesn't want to hear it." Yes, he does. Guilelessly. It's one of his best traits.

I meticulously followed the 2016 Republican primary campaign. And predicted Trump would win the primary and Presidency when his declaration of candidacy was still only a rumor. I remember gasping loudly during the debate where he relentlessly criticized "low energy" Jeb when Trump became the first Republican, publicly and before a national audience, to bluntly and squarely place the blame for 9/11 on Bush, occurring, as it did, on his watch. It was a game changer as, previously, it seemed to be an 'unwritten rule' among Republicans never to "go there."

Note: Trump was also right about the basis for the Clinton impeachment being "nonsense." How could any aspect of Clinton's behavior there rise to a "high crime or (high) misdemeanor"? The Lewinsky affair was utterly reckless (and IMO very adolescent) of both of them. And, as far as I can tell, it cannot ultimately have been satisfying for either of them since, for all the detailed gossip shared with the nation about their time together, it seems they never consummated the relationship.

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You are entirely correct. Trump won me when he he relentlessly criticized "low energy" Jeb and became the first Republican to bluntly and squarely place the blame for 9/11 on the war criminal GW Bush. I would have liked to have seen Clinton impeached over his support for the islamicists in Kosovo and for his role in the bombing of Kosovo but there was no aspect of Clinton's behavior with Monica Lewinsku that rose to the threshold of a "high crime or (high) misdemeanor." Clinton, like his wife, and like Bush is, IMO, a high functioning psychopath, although I think his daughter of a mobster wife also has OCPD (anankastic PD). Clinton's behavior with Monica was certainly reckless, which isn't uncommon for a psychopath, but he's not the first psychopathic POTUS with a zipper problem (LBJ: "I had more women by accident than he [JFK] ever got on purpose") and he won't be the last. Monica has been quoted as saying that she expected the relationship to be consummated. Perhaps Bill wanted to remain faithful to Hillary and was, in a way, telling the truth when he said "I never had sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky." I'm half joking. It's unlikely Bill wanted to remain faithful to Hillary, given the credible claims made by his alleged rape victims. It appears Bill and Hillary have an open relationship, possibly not unlike that of the Italian PM and her ex-partner.

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I agree. And I have lots of speculative opinions about Bill and Hill's marriage. In brief, they probably despise the sight of each other but would never consider divorce. They couldn't survive without each other.

Hillary has lived her life and lust for power vicariously through Bill since their college days. She'd never have been Secretary of State or Presidential candidate had she not been the wildly ambitious "wife of Bill." And Bill is too much a momma's boy to have become governor and president without her relentless coaching and prodding.

Both very intelligent in a "book smart" way, with all the cleverness of shady lawyers. But Bill would be lost without his substitute mother.

I do believe Monica naively wanted and expected more and that Bill 'technically' "did not have sex with that woman." But I suspect it was Hillary who gave him that script to

hide her own mortification. I can just hear Bill complaining to Monica about his shrew of a wife and making her promises he never intended to keep.

We never would have been put through this nonsense of an impeachment if Republicans had understood there were more effective ways to discredit Bill relative to his office rather than his personal life.

Just my littie opinion based on observation of their interactions.

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By the way, did you see the comments of Italian conservative PM Georgia Melonia after announcing her separation from her de facto spouse of 10 years after he was caught on a hot mic talking apparently about open relationships to women and an affair he was having and propositioning them for threesomes and foursomes and asking another if she minded if he rubbed his balls while he spoke with her? I don't care about her personal life. She is very eloquent:

"All those who hoped to weaken me by hitting me at home should know that as much as the drop may hope to dig out the stone, the stone remains a stone and the drop is just water.”

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No. I entirely missed that story. (Will google.) Good to know she has the strength to ignore politically-motivated critics hitting below the belt. And that truly was an eloquent response.

I don't care about her personal life, either, but have to say that her ex sounds like a special category of creepy.

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It sounds like the ex is creepy and a political liability but she was with him for 10 years. Maybe he is bipolar and was having a manic or hypomanic episode. I wonder if he is jabbed and had just had a booster.

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They were an exceptionally attractive couple. (See photo at link.)

IMO men who seek "threesomes and foursomes" are likely homosexual -- or at least "bi-sexual," (which I think is a poor cover story for being gay). Hard to understand someone ruining a ten-year, apparently open relationship like this. Too handsome for his own good? smh

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/10/20/europe/italian-prime-minister-partner-split-sexist-comments-intl-scli/index.html

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He looks handsome in the photo which might have been taken a few years ago but Rock Hudson was handsome too and Rock would have made George Conway and Lindsey Graham look like red blooded heterosexuals by comparison. It may be some consolation to Georgia that the love of her life was caught propositioning women only and not men but maybe that's because there were only women and no men in the vicinity at the time of the "hot mic" moments. I know a woman who came home early from work one day and found her husband in men with another man. It was deeply distressing for her.

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I fully agree but think Bill would have been a candidate for the presidency even without Hill. He's a Rhodes Scholar. Rhodes Scholars of all nations are chosen in Langley, Virginia.

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I had forgotten he was a Rhodes Scholar. (And never knew about the CIA connection.)

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