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I always check out the funding before taking a study at its word, and this study's funding looks particularly suspect given that BigPharma has a vested interest in discrediting a natural plant with medicinal properties that threaten its products/profits:

"Funding: This research was funded by a research award grant from The Lung Association - Ontario. The Lung Association - Ontario received unrestricted funding from Tetra-Bio Pharma to independently administer the grant competition. The funding sources had no role in any aspect of the research or writing processes, which were authors' alone. This study was supported by ICES, which is funded by an annual grant from the Ontario Ministry of Health (MOH) and the Ministry of Long-Term Care (MLTC). Parts of this material are based on data and information compiled and provided by: MOH; Canadian Institute for Health Information (CIHI); and, Cancer Care Ontario (CCO)."

I'm not saying there aren't minimal risks for a small subset of individuals, but most medical marijuana patients are able to reduce or eliminate their pain killers and other addictive prescriptions and thus circumvent far more severe side effects from pharmaceutical products.

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I should add that my terminally ill step-father’s life has been extended over a decade and counting thanks to medical marijuana as it helps him manage his nausea and pain.

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According to Merogenomics YouTube covid-19 mRNA vaccine update 30 Cannabinoids compounds could be inhibiting the spike protein (which enters the nucleus of the cells, where it down regulates DNA repair and the immune system), thereby offering protection from infection. This was reported in the Journal of Natural Products.

I was Maybe recently exposed (won’t waste time or money getting tested, never have), so I found a joint (soggy stuff only at night), I think the correct dose is the go.

I have earlier and more recently read that that, from memory, tobacco or nicotine (dreadfully addictive), can stop the ACE 2 receptor. I think the trick is in the dose. (I remember that as buggering up the keyhole to stop entry of the virus). I thought at the time that seems a good approach. Would like to hear more about that.

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This study is "no association found" ... So, bullshit!

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I think we’re talking about the general pop and not just the people who wrangled Rxes. They are determined to make us into a nation of zombie followers who stay sick enough to buy drugs but not too sick to go to work

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Although it is safer than many pharmaceutical drugs, it still has its risk. The biggest issue I see for the widespread cannabis use is that adolescents are using it a lot more and their brains are still developing…

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Jun 28, 2022·edited Jun 28, 2022

Only anecdotal, but from my experience this seems to be spot on. The first time I remember seeing the devil weed, two of my 6th grade classmates were examining a Bob Marley sized joint. One later suffered significant brain injury during a snow mobile accident, which would follow with the study results. The other is in prison. Now I don't know if their mental capacity was diminished, so they smoked at that early age. Or if the smoking impaired their cognitive development. I knew one of their sisters and she seemed completely normal, so the latter seems more likely. But as Phil Davis points out here and Leslie mentions, the medical establishment and parents seem all too happy to stick developing kids on SSRIs, puberty blocker's, AHD drugs, and anti anxiety drugs. What all developing kids should be given instead are good food, good air, and positive physical activity.

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I dont really think kids need to use weed, but it wont kill them either. In a perfect world only adults should use anything.

Ill tell you this, a far far bigger issue is adolescence alcohol consumption. Even into college. The binge drinking is far worse than even harsher substances. Once alcohol gets a hold of a young person brain they are drinkers for life.

Alcohol IMHO is the dirtiest and most corrupting substance known to man. And we banned it for a while with devastating consequences. One could easily argue that major organized crime started during the prohibition.

If there was any substance that we should worry about is is booze.

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Spot on Phil. It's no wonder I had so many problems with alcohol, not even realizing they were problems or preventable, when I look back at say M*A*S*H reruns. That was a staple when i was in high school. Even attempted to make my own still. My life is significantly better now that I've left alcohol behind.

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Thats good. I have a sensitive spot for this subject as I have relatives who have succumbed to booze and died very early because of it, or ruined their lives. It is devastating.

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Not sure you’re accurate about addiction being the result of childhood drinking.

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Depends on the person. But if your genes are right you are hooked for life. Many hard core alcoholics attribute their problem to teenage drinking. Visit any AA meeting and hear the stories.

"Research shows that people who start drinking before the age of 15 are at a higher risk for developing alcohol use disorder later in life. For example, adults ages 26 and older who began drinking before age 15 are 5.6 times more likely to report having alcohol use disorder in the past year as those who waited until age 21 or later to begin drinking."

https://www.datafiles.samhsa.gov/dataset/national-survey-drug-use-and-health-2018-nsduh-2018-ds0001

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Oh yeah, developing brains. Nothing like SSRIs, puberty blocker's, AHD drugs, anti anxiety drugs. All legal and pushed by our legal drug pushers.

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Cannabis may now cause one in four new cases of schizophrenia in men

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/cannabis-may-now-cause-one-in-four?utm_medium=reader2

The New York Times has woken up on cannabis, all at once.

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/the-new-york-times-has-woken-up-on?utm_medium=reader2

Today's extraordinary New York Times piece on cannabis and psychosis

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/todays-extraordinary-new-york-times?utm_medium=reader2

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Berenson is wrong about marijuana and Dr. Malone... He is no longer a good source of information for me. Also, F... The NYT's

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Its bullshit. Weed has been used for again, so may years. And, so many people have used it. It is a study of its own. Tell me, after covid do you really put any weight on these studies? Isn't it fascinating that all of a sudden negative studies of weed come to light while it is being legalized across the country? And who formulates and runs these studies? They don't have anything to do with pharma now do they? We know that pharma is paying off docs for covid, we know they are manipulating the data. Weed has had so little negative effect on humans for centuries and all of the sudden it is a really dangerous substance. It is just a plant, it is not processed in any way. It can be condensed into a strong substance and that may causes a few problems, but still, it is nothing like all the other substances people are using. It is at the very bottom of dangerous. Can one overdue? Yes! But, that is with anything. And, the NYTs? Ha, don't get me started.

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I was taught when studying Occupational Therapy that it can cause psychosis, but only in genetically susceptible individuals and usually in combination with amphetamines. I’m pretty sure there is some truth to it but it’s only a small subgroup of the population

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Yeah thanks. A lot of kids who started into weed had some issues to begin with. They were searching for something to numb their pain or mental anguish. So it's really impossible to correlate mental issues with weed, there are way too many variables. The anti weed people do jump all over it though.

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They need toughening up. I do acknowledge that it can be applied with the correct dose but I don’t think it’s a good idea on a underaged person’s growing and developing brain.

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Who even needs a study to know that stinky stuff ain't good for ya!

Why would they pop up so many shops all over city, some even on same block and even in suburbs..

It's a push to get more everywhere into it and stoned. and who is getting the ca$h?

Who cares it grows on plants, not all plants are good for ya!

More studies will come out, just like Covid.. btw Alex left the Ny times after he exposed them or something...and wrote a book years before all this on legalizing weed n it's dangers. it's in one of the links I gave.

Since when do u trust govt anyway that legalizing anything is good for you .. hasn't Covid taught us anything? Take a step back if this is personal. See the big picture.

Who cares if pot is on bottom of list of drugs ..

Mary Jane is a GATEWAY to other more powerful drugs.And that's a fact!

Protect yourself and yr kids from even touching it for fun..

One step leads to another .and another..

Just say No to all drugs! ✌️

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In USA, I believe all the cannabis are genetically modified. If everyone were allowed to grow Non GMO seeds at home, that may be a different story. But, I believe these GMO or lab created synthetic are very dangerous. And I do believe, same with tobacco, that it is what is put on the plants that makes them far worse for human health.

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Dude. I am 65. I am a regular user of cannibas going on 45 years. In contrast to alcohol I prefer it. No doubt a life lived Pura Vida is superior. In the round though, is it more harmful than SUGAR? I doubt it.

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What about CBD? No THC ?

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The study is about the effect on lungs. I have been taking medicinal cbd indica oil for years and it has helped me in so many ways! It gives me perfect sleeps, calms my heart and blood pressure and my arthritis pain has been reduced by 90%! Perfect no pharma med for oldies!

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Thank you

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The weed today is not the weed of my hippie youth...The THC content is very high. And you don't know if it's been cut with something.

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Myth. See

https://peterwebster.substack.com/p/anslingers-curse

Marijuana Myths, Marijuana Facts: A Review of the Scientific Evidence

Lynn Zimmer, Ph.D. and John P. Morgan, M.D.

The Lindesmith Center, 1997, ISBN 0-9641568-4-9

a review by Peter Webster

published 1998 International Journal of Drug Policy

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Some people claim marijuana has medicinal qualities, and perhaps it does. It does have have health risks, to the lungs, and to developing children. Having worked in criminal justice for many years, I learned that several individuals I investigated for the Court began using marijuana as young as 6 or 7, and steadily afterward, escalating to other drug use. It is not entirely safe, there are risks. I saw the devastation that it had on people's lives after using it and other drugs over a number of years. Illegal drug use impacts family, communities and society in general. CBD oil - hard to say, as some claim it has benefits, others not. But, CBD is not always marijuana free. I'm not basing my thoughts on any study, only my own vast work experience and training.

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🎯🎯🎯thank u for your expert opinion!

Mary Jane is a gateway drug even if many don't want to believe their pet drug can do this.

And it stinks to high heaven, can't imagine a neighbour puffing away with that stink comin in my house!

Here in Ontario it's illegal to smoke weed n drive for 4-6 hours as affects judgement n reaction time etc

But just like Covid studies more sources will acknowledge this.. only it will be too late.. again!

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Myth. See

Marijuana Myths, Marijuana Facts: A Review of the Scientific Evidence

Lynn Zimmer, Ph.D. and John P. Morgan, M.D.

The Lindesmith Center, 1997, ISBN 0-9641568-4-9

a review by Peter Webster

published 1998 International Journal of Drug Policy

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I agree - it has been a gateway drug for decades. Not everyone, but many, and I dealt with that in my professional career over many years. It does impact reaction time, and should be illegal to use and drive or to operate certain equipment, and perhaps a number of other things. Even worse is that mj and other drugs are much stronger than years ago, and it is often laced with other drugs.

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🎯 Refreshing seeing yr comment.. and yr long experience too!

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And I loveee yr pic! Selah!

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To learn the clinical experience medicine has completely forgotten about since the heavy pot using days of the 1960's and 70's, I highly recommend the text book "Marihuana In Science and Medicine" by Nahas published by Raven. For the pro pot crowd the pathologies found created by cannabinoids will be eye opening.

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There was no mention of the species of marijuana. There are hundreds. Many of the kinds of marijuana on the market are now genetically modified, by our nefarious friend, Monsanto. Since Big Pharma prescription drugs, taken as prescribed, account for over 780,000 deaths a year, I think marijuana is least of our worries.

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Never had a problem with it but no longer wish to take it. In twenty years, my only bad experience was one guy who developed schizophrenia, but he was already prone to that and was on meds already. He shouldn't have been smoking it.

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developed schizophrenia >get rid of all types of sugars!

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Developed diabetes and went schizo as well....

Having taken almost every drug known to mankind (never intravenously of course), I'm not sure why you would pick on weed. LSD is quite bad in terms of long-term effects. Crack is horribly moreish (compared to from-the-lab cocaine in a country like Bolivia, which is so strong and so malevolent, it's impossible to want to take any more on a given evening) or oral heroin, which admittedly makes you turn into a dragon and fly through the universe (opiates are extremely hallucinogenic) but makes you throw up for the next few days.

Yes, of all the terrible drugs you shouldn't take, sativa cannabis is the one to avoid. Yikes.

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It’s about serving pot up to the entire country as safe and fun. Sort of like cigarettes. Why?

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Well are the other drugs you mentioned able to be purchased at yr local shops legally?

Cannabis may now cause one in four new cases of schizophrenia in men

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/cannabis-may-now-cause-one-in-four?utm_medium=reader2

The New York Times has woken up on cannabis, all at once.

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/the-new-york-times-has-woken-up-on?utm_medium=reader2

Today's extraordinary New York Times piece on cannabis and psychosis

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/todays-extraordinary-new-york-times?utm_medium=reader2

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Jun 28, 2022·edited Jun 28, 2022

Just in case you thought I was LARPing...

https://i.imgur.com/KBJ1jn4.jpg

Phoenix Tears....

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"Well are the other drugs you mentioned able to be purchased at yr local shops legally?"

Obviously not. And before you judge me, I have only ever taken these substances because I'm a psychonaut and like to change my consciousness, I don't do things for hedonistic purposes (ironically when I DO do that, it's with perfectly legal booze).

I have seen Berenson, Hitchins and now the good Doctor say this. The problem is either with the ridiculously high THC level weed that is now available or "spice" which is synthetic cannabis.

Naturally grown weed from South America is not going to make you into a psychopathic murdering monster. It just isn't. Hashish from Afghanistan isn't either.

I've smoked weed with thousands of people and no-one has ever had a problem, save that one person I referenced, and I never smoked weed with him, he was a friend of a friend.

I'm happy to acknowledge we may have a new problem but I know hippies who are engineers and scientists who have been smoking weed for 50/60 years (one of them is currently working on a combustible engine that runs off water, it seems to work and he's not mental).

If you are smoking normal weed, I highly doubt you will have an issue because I am not seeing it in my own life and never have. Sorry.

As I said, I'm off it. I literally have a capsule of "phoenix tears" next to me right now. It's 95% THC oil. I doubt I will ever take it (my friend gave it to me and I have had it for three years). I don't really have any interest in it anymore, I learned everything I could from the compound and now I am done.

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Glad you are off it..art Jane is a gateway drug for many.. best to never start.. anyway I'm done posting same reply.. check somewhere here if care.. tic toc our short summer is a wasting here!

But here in Ontario i posted just now to someone ..it is illegal to drive under impairment of weed.. for 4-6 hours ..yet so many still do..

It does affect judgement , reflex time, etc

But let's wait n see till more studies u like come out..

No ide what larping link is about btw and tic toc.. don't really care ✌️

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You do know that I do esian children commonly stole stalks of sugar cane and chewed on them. Teeth and health pretty much average. There are many cultures whose populations do t soar i to terminal I’ll was and who eat plenty sugar.

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Raw sugar in moderation is not the big problem that refined sugar in excess is.

youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

watch?v=ceFyF9px20Y

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I think they would need to separate the cannabis only smokers from the tobacco and cannabis and see what comes up. A lot of people that smoke cannabis also smoke tobacco and we know that is a disaster for the lungs.

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"Although no significant association was observed between cannabis use and respiratory-related ER visits or hospitalisations..."

One might suspect that the primary risk would be respiratory, no?

So what were the actual causes "of an equally important morbidity outcome, all-cause ER visit or hospitalisation"?

I suspect some prohibitionists are behind this nonsense, did you check? AS one certainly must do for "COVID Studies" that don't ring true.

Please, do not support prohibitionism! Enough damage has already been done on that account.

See:

Marijuana Myths, Marijuana Facts: A Review of the Scientific Evidence

https://peterwebster.substack.com/p/anslingers-curse

and

Intoxications by Hallucinogenic Mushrooms - A Critical Commentary

https://peterwebster.substack.com/p/intoxications-by-hallucinogenic-mushrooms

and

Learning from History

https://peterwebster.substack.com/p/learning-from-history

and

Drug Warriors and Their Prey: From Police Power to Police State

https://peterwebster.substack.com/p/repeat-performance

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You're just a weed critic. Not one word of the very large amount of bennifits weed offers. Any substance when used to excess can cause issues. Too much pizza will make you fat and clog arteries. Too much beer or wine, don't need to explain those. But, I will mention that probably the dirtiest substance, with the most negative side effects, and that causes a huge percentage of societal problems is booze. You should be writing about it not weed, but I think you're very biased for some reference madness reason.

Alcohol is responsible for an alarming number of deaths and injuries. Broken families, financial problems. An alcoholics mind is so rewired that nothing can get through too them but when their next drink will come from. It far outweighs the damage caused over weed by over 1000 to 1. There is no substances that causes more problems for so long. But all you do is harp on weed. I've used it for many years, as do millions of others and any negative side effects are rare. But you make it sound like it's a huge problem. It's not, it's very, very minor. I don't believe there's a substance that has been so widely used by so many worldwide that has caused the least of problems. There are so many other substances you could write on that have so many problem including death. And btw, no one dies from weed. It just does not happen. Why aren't you harping on pharma's nasty SSRI drugs given to kids? These things are probably the reason for school shootings. But, nooo weed is bad. I'd rather see kids use weed over SSRIs any day.

You are also misleading many with your bisaed rhetoric. So many older folks are finding real relief from aging problems that far, far work better than the toxic pharma trash. Their arthritis is manageable, they can sleep again, and on and on.

What you need doc is an education on weed, you've bought the anti weed narrative and are brain washed along with your bias. I'm pretty sure you have zero experience with weed other than maybe in college or something similar. You need to sit back, chill and smoke a bowl. You've become a shrill.

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Wow how defensive you get eh.. weed stinks and so many of us knew it would cause big problems once legalized ..

Lay off Doc.. dont shoot the messenger, cuz ya don't like the message!

Here's Alex's latest posts!

Cannabis may now cause one in four new cases of schizophrenia in men

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/cannabis-may-now-cause-one-in-four?utm_medium=reader2

The New York Times has woken up on cannabis, all at once.

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/the-new-york-times-has-woken-up-on?utm_medium=reader2

Today's extraordinary New York Times piece on cannabis and psychosis

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/todays-extraordinary-new-york-times?utm_medium=reader2

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It has been legalized in Canada for a few years now. Have not heard any negative stories so far.

I could understand how lungs would be affected by smoking it. And anything in excess will cause organ damage in the body.

But, I have been taking medicinal cbd with thc indica oil for years and it has helped me in so many ways! It gives me perfect sleeps, calms my heart and blood pressure and my arthritis pain has been reduced by 90%! Perfect no pharma med for oldies

There is no way to generalize about this plant because it has so many species and has been adulterated and modified by humans in dozens of different ways.

People! don't throw the baby out with the bath water, please!

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That's the problem with this doc. There's a very long list of benefits of weed . There are literally hundreds of health problems that weed can help. If you lined up all the substance humans abuse and their side effect weed would be at the very bottom as the least dangerous. You can also line up all the pharma drugs that cause toxic effects and weed would be at the bottom of that list too. This doc and the people that agree with him have reefer madness syndrome for some reason. The doc is also pitching his book, so there is that.

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One thing that has become clear, Alex is not capable of parsing a medical study for evidence and meaning. Have you read his thoughts on ivermectin?

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Ok so you don't like Alex, who cares I don't read much of him anyway.. and no I haven't read that one of ivm..

But there are other studies I just posted to another.. tic toc.. let's wait n see .. like Covid vax..more studies will come out and from sources you " like and approve " of..

In Ontario you can't drive impaired after smokin Mary Jane.. for four hours or 6.. yet so many drive while smokin a tokin..

Just wait and see.. it's a gateway drug .. and that's a fact!✌️

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What thoughts. Ivermectin is the miracle drug of the 20 century now in research for cancer prevention and cure

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Sorry , you misread me. I was not being defensive. I dont think weed is any more problematic since legalization. Why? Because it was never a problem to begin with. Again on a scale of substance problems weed is at the very bottom.

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This article is about weed. Go ahead and use it just please don’t compare it to alcohol which actually has some benefits if used properly.

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I am sorry but that is a myth. Red wine has some benefits but hard liquor is next to nil. There is NO substance that has ever used buy humans that had caused so many problems. None. Not heroin, not opioids, none of them compare to the damage to society and families. The data is overwhelming. Not to say that moderation is fine, but the abuse is so rampant worldwide that it is almost un-measurable. Visit an Indian reservation sometime as an example. The silent alcoholics, or the more commonly called functioning alcoholic has only one goal in life, that is getting off work and finding that next drink. There are millions of these people. Ask them to lay off the booze for one month only. They can't, they are hooked and dependent. Cocktail hour is too precious to them. The cost to society is staggering in healthcare, accidents, broken homes, lost wages, and productivity. Nothing compares in size and scoop!

That's just the problem. Now try fixing it. It is almost impossible once hooked. AA says they get about 10% off booze. That is it, ten percent only! AA is about the best we have.

Fortunately for some reason you do not know an abuser, that's great but you really should get to know one. Your opinion will change 100 percent.

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Rather than argue this down to a fine point here's a thought: Perhaps alcohol gives us such trouble is because it's legal...so my hypothesis is then that if we legalize pot it will have the same result. P lus the fact that it's impossible to detect at a traffic stop. Appears to be stoned won't hold up in court like a breathalyzer..

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No, the opposite is true. You see once you deny anything to humans they want it more. The prohibition has proven that. One can easily argue that major crime syndicates were born from the booze prohibition. The same happens with drugs, we get more crime the more it's banned.

My argument with booze is with this doc who is demonizing the LEAST damaging substance. As a matter of fact, weed has so many positive attributes even compared to pharma's drugs.

What he should be stressing as a doctor is the massive damage of alcohol. It is by far the most damaging substance used by man. But hey, he's got a book to hawk.

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No Phil, the issue isn't CH2COOH but Pot.

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There is no issue with pot there never has been. I live in Colorado, the epicenter of this debate. We in the state consume more weed per capita than any states, even California, and have for a very long time. We have never had any problems, except the laws heavy hand. Legalized weed caused problems of people moving here, some undesirable. But nothing the naysayers predicted. Why did we know this? Because we have a long history with weed, we know all the bullshit spewed is just that bullshit. You see the propaganda with covid and all the other shit once something becomes political. The same with weed, once political factors get involved the propaganda flies.

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So in other words, the study at best may be suggesting people smoking pot should not ride snowmobiles or do rock climbing, I suppose. The study seems to indicate the possibility of lifestyle choices in activities for those who also choose to smoke cannabis to be slightly more risky. No difference in respiratory illness, which would be the greatest concern and no difference in all cause mortality was found.

From the study, "odds of respiratory-related ER visit or hospitalisation was not significantly different between exposed and control individuals." "However, compared with the control group, cannabis users had significantly greater odds of all-cause ER visit or hospitalisation (OR 1.22, 95% CI 1.13 to 1.31, p<0.0001, NNH 25)." BUT, "for the all-cause ER visit and hospitalisation outcome among cannabis users revealed that respiratory-related were the second most common cause (14.2%), after acute trauma (15.1%)." They already revealed, respiratory related ER visits was not significantly different in either group. Finally, "All-cause mortality was not significantly different between the two groups."

No differences between groups except for acute trauma being higher in pot smokers.

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Yes but remember they want to legalize it and are saying it would help stop illegal drug use LOL. No someone wants us all stoned. At least the labor force. Something smells here

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sorry, I forget it's not legal everywhere already! Seeing so many shops spring up on so many corners here in Ontario, even in our suburbs, some few shops on same street!🤌, is very, very, strange 🚩🚨🆘

Yes that's their goal it seems, weaken our brains and body any way they can!

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Cannabis may now cause one in four new cases of schizophrenia in men

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/cannabis-may-now-cause-one-in-four?utm_medium=reader2

The New York Times has woken up on cannabis, all at once.

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/the-new-york-times-has-woken-up-on?utm_medium=reader2

Today's extraordinary New York Times piece on cannabis and psychosis

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/todays-extraordinary-new-york-times?utm_medium=reader2

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Copy and paste back at you. One thing that has become clear, Alex is not capable of parsing a medical study for evidence and meaning. Have you read his thoughts on ivermectin? I like how Jeoffry Gordon, MD, MPH, Retired responds to the cited study. "authors pullout all strings and every tool to stretch the possibility of a causal relationship between cannabis use and schizophrenia." "not discussed was the possibility of schizophrenics self medicating with cannabis to relieve symptoms as it became more available." I'm not opposed to science delivering damaging health news on cannabis. But let's get some real studies on the subject. However it's classification as one of the worst substances for human consumption, hardly the case, has made scientific study nearly impossible.

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Ok you don't like Alex.. I honestly don't read much of him ..tic toc!

But like Covid more studies will come out..

You get young brains easily accessing this stuff and yes you will hook them to that and likely more.. I know so many studies say it won't ..it's safe,, ... but just like Covid vax.. I say ok let's wait n see ..

Here's another cut n paste for ya.

"Early exposure to cannabinoids in adolescent rodents decreases the reactivity of brain dopamine reward centers later in adulthood.47 To the extent that these findings generalize to humans, this could help explain the increased vulnerability for addiction to other substances of misuse later in life that most epidemiological studies have reported for people who begin marijuana use early in life.48 It is also consistent with animal experiments showing THC’s ability to "prime" the brain for enhanced responses to other drugs.49 For example, rats previously administered THC show heightened behavioral response not only when further exposed to THC but also when exposed to other drugs such as morphine—a phenomenon called cross-sensitization.50

These findings are consistent with the idea of marijuana as a "gateway drug."

But tell me how come in Ontario we got these rules and tell me how many actually follow this.. can't tell u how many cars I drive next to smoking a tokin !🤌🚩🚨

"Ontario will be starting with a zero-tolerance policy for driving a vehicle while under the influence of cannabis. If a police officer suspects you to be under the influence, you will be detained, screened and tested to determine if you have any THC in your system.

The reason why the legal system is only set up to test and punish drivers who have THC in their system, and not other cannabis chemicals, is because THC is the only chemical component that affects a person’s mental faculties in a way that can lead to them to driving in an unsafe manner.

The problems with THC are very similar to those of alcohol when you consume enough of it:

Impairs your judgment🚩

Decreases your motor coordination🚩

Decreases your reaction time🚩

How THC Stays in Your System

The role played by marijuana in crashes is often unclear because it can be detected in body fluids for 🚩days or even weeks 🚩after intoxication and because people frequently combine it with alcohol.🚩

When you smoke or vape cannabis, you will feel it faster, but the effects of THC will peak and disappear between 30 minutes to 4 hours. If you consume edibles, you may not feel the effects as quickly, but the effects will usually last between 4 to 6 hours. Keep that in mind when you eat edibles that the THC will remain in your system for longer when you drive a vehicle later on.

But let's wait for more studies.. one from sources you " like and approve of " They will come out.. like Covid..it's just a matter of time!

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LOL Trudeau's Canada has a zero tolerance policy for individual liberty... except in instances where the exercise of individual liberty is flattering to Trudeau and consistent with his personal financial interests.

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I await the piece on politics and psychosis.

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How about supporting the right to choose what we put in our bodies.

I think nicotine, alcohol, cannabis and opioids are often used because better alternatives are not available to treat dis-ease. From this it also follows that many who self medicate are less well and more likely to die, that does not make the medication automatically bad, it may reflect on the lack of treatment available.

The same for Ivermectin and any other remedy, let the patient and his healthcare provider make the choice.

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Bullshit. You really need to read these studies before posting!

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Jun 28, 2022·edited Jun 28, 2022

Respectfully, no consumption is benign, and prohibition is even less benign.

Prohibition is like a tourniquet. Leave it on too long and sepsis begins. Let that continue and the entire body dies. Prohibition works as public policy, but it works in the opposite way if used as a permanent strategy.

Prohibition does not mitigate demand, it creates demand for unregulated, adulterated and misbranded drugs. It creates an industry of profound cruelty amplifying self-abuse with extreme and irreversible costs to the culture and society afflicted with the hubris to apply the tourniquet in force, pretending the worst of the morbid sepsis that profligates and infiltrates the public commons is caused by the drug and not by the tourniquet.

To what extent has the War Against Drugs and duplicity of prohibition pathologized our institutions and normalized the criminality and maladministration that pervades it? Some of this is the price to be paid by indulging hubris and masquerading as Gods ruling over the moral choices of our fellow humans we seek to subordinate to our morality. And what is their offense against we, their masters, for our selective intolerance of their self-on-self mistreatment as we struggle with or ignore the self-on-self mistreatment we inflict upon ourself?

I recall: "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's." To say render unto Darwin what is Darwin's says much the same thing. This is natural selection. It does not come from man, but from the Creator of man's nature. The great question is how we interplay and intercede in a divine process with the limitations of our mortal being and humbled mortal nature?

We are spending and squandering massive amounts of money behaving stupidly, diseasing our schools, militarizing our police and wallowing our institutions in corrosive duplicity, hipocrisy and normalizing cynical indifference to human suffering.

"I will not wash your feet. You are unclean. Go and be punished. May your suffering destroy you."

Who says that? Who thinks like that? Who wants prohibitionists in charge of anything?

Where did the brazen corporate criminality and institutional maladministration evolve and become normalized in way that resulted in the mRNA/EUA fiasco and serial tragedy presided over by our most important institutions that somehow are incapable of honest and faithful administration?

The metastizing institutional malignancy that is the culture of prohibition and the war on drugs most certainly plays a role in shaping and emboldening the individual pathology of those who come to power and preside over our institutions. At some point, no lie becomes too big to tell.

They are unconcerned with tourniquets and will install them as is convenient to them, and will abandon them and those affected thereby without remorse or further consideration.

The crimes of today and the culture that profits from them came from somewhere. They are not behaving abnormally, but instead they are evolving and adapting the normalcy they have been conditioned to accept as practical and appropriate to their station.

This too is self-on-self mistreatment, and on a grand human scale.

We have done this. We have normalized this. Of course it's coming for our children. It has been doing so for decades as we vainly complained about the creeping ennui of sepsis we moralize and ignore as if it were the plank in our eye.

"Vanities of vanities, sayeth Quoheleth. All is vanity and chasing of the wind."

So triage the human condition. Focus on the immediacy of suffering and abate what you can.

Don't dig the pit deeper. The grave is deep enough.

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I would also be pleased to see you stretch your analogy to cover the case of releasing the tourniquet abruptly after too long and how this will cause unintended side effects or wide spread damage as blood flow is restored or sepsis starts to circulate. A tourniquet and a limb is a bit like the hammer and nail problem, except the organisations that have managed prohibition only know one thing and will want to exercise their narrow skill set in some way if this substance has been pardoned.

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I am going to share this. If you want your real name on it just let me know. This is one of the most eloquent explanations on the futility of prohibition, drugs, alcohol or anything else.

Thank you for sharing your insights in a way even the comatose can understand.

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