‘As the film Oppenheimer arrives in American theaters, it is important to take a fresh look at the race to produce the atomic bomb and the choice of Hiroshima as its first target. Hiroshima was struck by an 11kt atomic bomb that had never been previously tested. But the task to destroy Hiroshima was critical in stopping Japan's atomic bomb program and either forcing Japan’s surrender or, if Japan did not surrender, protecting the huge planned US and allied amphibious attack on Japan.
Total bullshit article. It reeks of Langley, Virginia disinformation. It's on a par with the evidence fabricated by or on behalf of Bush about Saddam Hussein having attempted to get large quantities of uranium from Africa. It's on a par with COLON Powell's presentation to the UN. The US has form. An epidemiological study published in The Lancet when it was still a reputable journal found that the US butchered up to nearly a million civilians in Iraq. All the alleged "evidence" in Hiroshima of a Japanese nuclear program there was completely destroyed. How convenient. The narrative in this article has multiple holes in it. The US lies repeatedly. It never stops. It lies about jabs. It lied about Hunter Biden's laptop. 51 intel officials or former officials claimed in 2020 that the New York Post article about Hunter's laptop had all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation even though they knew it didn't. Only a few years after the US nuked the civilian cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki the US was committing the atrocities in Korea documented by North Korea in the Museum of American War Atrocities. Only a few years after that the US was committing the Mai Lai massacre in Vietnam. The US chose a civilian city to target to create terror not only in Japan but around the world. It could not have cared less about the women and children of what it regarded as an inferior foreign race. It targetted a civilian city to create world terror and to.demonstrate to the foreign lesser race untermenschen that they were "life unworthy of life" and that US Anglo-Saxons were the master race.
I'm skeptical, too. Why didn't the gov't prove it after the surrender and try to justify incinerating 100,000+ civilians? They could have used smaller bombs to target the facility were that the goal.
It's clear we get lied to al lot, and the covid murder spree has made it more clear than ever.
Your comments are totally out there: I am of your generation and I have also issues with the US Govt. but no that is NOT disinformation. wow. AWAKENOTWOKE. I was born in Germany and my Grandfather worked w/ the Americans on the Manhatten Project. I have REAL DOCUMENTS which I inherited in English and German. No I don't think that the USA or the REST OF the WAR BLOOD LUST MONGERING WORLD.. make that NATO, EU and Russia and the US should have tested a BOMB in the US and all over the world.. My father was sent to Korea after four combat tours in Germany and sent home a broken man (Metal plate in his head).. so I have actual reasons to trash some decisions made by the USA. I get that we are the most Propagandized nation second to China, but your comments are truly over the top. Hunter's Laptop was the real deal.. OMG. Russian disinformation. Please .. give me a break here. Your ASSERTIONS without a shred of "documentation" is simply a rant. Have a great weekend if you can break through that bitterness. The Lancet also was the first one out there w/ false information about Covid.. who do you work for? Biden?
Please read my comment to the post. Whether or not there was an atomic facility in either city is moot on the topic of the bombings being justified. Japan, by its use of civilians in military roles and their homes and schools as munition factories and training camps made them legitimate targets.
Strike first before your enemy. The worst atrocity ever committed by humans (documented) was the rape of the Nanjing (Nanking) by Japanese against the Chinese. The atomic bombs on two Japanese cities was very small payback against what was one of the most imperialistic, brutal, murderous regimes in history. Only one generation ago.
I went to the Imax cinema tonight to watch Oppenheimer.
On a film critique level, I'd say it was beautifully shot, and director Chris Nolan is an accomplished artist in this regard; however, it was way too long, coming in at a run time of 3 hours and could've had at least 30% to 40% excised if the film editor did his/her job properly/had any balls. The lead actor Cillian Murphy - who also acted in Nolan's Inception - did a fabulous job.
To have cast luvvies like Matt Damon, Emily Blunt and Matthew Modine ruined the film partially for me.
The film also lost its way about three quarters way through although it was resurrected in the final 30 minutes.
I'd give it 3½☆ max.
Now, on the score of whether it was to be an accurate representation of fact - well it's a feature film which means it's the director's fictional interpretation, so comments about it not showing certain aspects are just daft.
What is more interesting to me, is why mainstream media has been so taken aback by it?
Is it to be a proxy cautionary tale for Bad Vlad and "communists" vs vassal state Ukraine and uncle Sam?
Because all this navel gazing and appropriating a piece of cinema for a greater cause to me is really the througline of the attention it's getting.
So now let's really deconstruct the money part.
The film had a production budget of USD 100M; break-even at the box office is USD 200M; commercial success is USD 400M.
Gross takings are already at USD 238M so it's on its way. Bravo!!
The luvvies each got paid USD 10M.
The lead deserved it; the others not.
But here's the kicker - more important than the arm's race and the Cold War is that the new Barbie movie has already grossed USD 500M worldwide.
And this ladies and gentlemen is where we are as a civilisation - a total bunch of nitwits.
And why covid, the injection and all the other lockdown measures did not even make a dent in the world population of 8BN souls.
It's all BS.
We're simply wasting our time banging on here until kingdom come.
Humans coming up with more creative and innovative ways to lay each other to waste. For me, as I wade into the deeper waters that come with the aging process (well seasoned, as it were), the term technologically "advanced" rings rather hollow. I highly doubt our species will ever figure this out.
Paul, lots going on. Jesuits in key US areas, and their assets, directed nuke blasts at both sites. The bombs that Tibbets dropped were decoys. Both bombs were ignited upon ground terrain. USS Indianapolis dropped off the two nukes on Japan island mid July or a bit earlier, then was sunk by one of the few Imperial subs left about end of July. I suspect Hirohito was in on at least part of, if not all of the plan for the two nukes. He has Jesuit asset(s) inside the palace since before birth. Mac did NOT hang Hirohito due to orders from Truman.
Bergamini, in japanese imperial conspiracy, pointed out that around 1543 or so Miyoshi was warned by a stranded English sailor, if I recall, that warned about the Jesuits; Bill Adams later became a samurai, married, family died there. What cities were the Jesuits located? Yes, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Miyoshi killed every Jesuit and their Nippon acolytes, about 3000 deaths.
The Church of Pagan Rome is ruthless and paybacks are a bitch. The Jesuits loved the Shogun feudal system; what you see today in Japan is Jesuit controlled Trilaterals. One more thing to show the power of Jesuits in this situation. Most the Imperial generals wanted to take down Stalin, Jesuits are scholars, they knew a few years before the war of nuke research. They knew Stalin with his rotten red army would fall the Nippon and win. They planned on two cities to be nuked. They pushed Hirohito to go south to Pearl. Yes, FDR knew about the Pearl attack. All carriers were pulled out of Pearl.
👍👍One Jesuit priest actually survived both nukes at ground zero, "miracuously", according to Jesuit folklore. Building Jesuit "religious" underground nuclear bomb shelters in both cities played no small part. Jesuit local headquarters are the concrete bunkers still standing in ground zero photos at both cities. Some miracle that was...praise the pope & pass the ammunition. Sad facts, but still facts, in black & white, right in front of our blinded eyes.
“Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.” - J Robert Oppenheimer, quoting the Bhagavad Gita.
Was it a coincidence that Oppenheimer turned to Hinduism?
The French born Greek woman Savitri Devi, who is buried beside George Lincoln Rockwell, founder of the American Nazi Party, and who had two PhDs in mathematics and philosophy and who was both an original Nazi, who served time in Germany after WWII for her zealous Nazi activism, and one of the founders of Neo-Nazism, was a Hindu.
Savitri Devi believed that Adolph Hitler, "the greatest European of all time," was Kalki, an avatar of Vishnu (i.e., God Incarnate) who in his last incarnation was "too much sun and not enough lightning" but will return again at the end of the Kali Yuga and will be much more lightning.
I wonder if Oppenheimer believed the same thing.
Even if the US had the means prior to the Soviet Union's defeat of Nazi Germany in April 1945, it would never have used them against Nazi Germany the way the US did against Japan.
Oppenheimer said about the actions of the US: We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.”
It is clear that many Americans, mostly without realizing it, worship Kali, the Hindu Mother Goddess of Death and Deestruction. Murder is their flower. Manslaughter their meat. They worship the Devil.
Anyone who knows the truth is dead by now, so unless someone finds testimony hidden in an old book, we'll never know. You can visit the Trinity site twice a year. The ground, all these decades later, is covered in Trinitite, a glassy chemical created by the blast. They warn you not to pick any up.
Fascinating article. Excellent writing and story telling.
Looks like there are always going to be the deceivers and the one’s trying to uncover the deception’s. A little truth mixed with lyes. Haven’t we seen a lot of that lately. I’m sure it’s always going to be that way. Like my Grandmother use to say.
Son, that kind of thing has been going on before women were riding side saddle.
TOTALLY AGREE -THE TARGET WAS NOT MILITARY THE US INTELLIGENCE NOTED THAT THE JAPANESE WERE DOING MILITARY W ORK IN SMALL AT HOME FACILITIES, THIIS BY ASND LARGE
WAS FALSE- AS EVERTHING ELSE CIRCULATED BY OUR DEPT OF STATE -WE HAVE A BUNCH OF RAT. BASTARDS ˆN GOVERNMENT THAT NEED BE EXECUTED,
Even without the compelling statements who make, which I in no way contest, the bombings are justified militarily attacks. Each and every home and primary school in Japan during the war was a munitions factory. Even today, when I take the train into central Tokyo to work I can see automobile fenders piled atop the roof of a small apartment building. Another has leather curing. A friend’s father in law runs his machinist’s shop on the first floor of his three story home. These are just a few examples I know from personal experience. During the war, these and all households had quotas of military use goods to produce. The apartment building with the fenders would have had parts for military vehicles, the leather used for military purposes and the machine shop cranking out parts for a wide variety of military equipment. Munition’s factories are legitimate military targets.
Additionally, primary schools were long used as book camps for Japanese. Many left primary school and marched in to their first battle at a very young age. There are photographs published depicting school girls undergoing various military training from rifle firing to drilling with bamboo spears. A schoolmate of mine told of her then 12 year old grandmother training at school to rush at landing marines at the beaches with their bamboo spears.
Either by naivety or design, the Imperial Japanese Government turned all households and schools into legally targetable sites, there is the war crime.
Total bullshit article. It reeks of Langley, Virginia disinformation. It's on a par with the evidence fabricated by or on behalf of Bush about Saddam Hussein having attempted to get large quantities of uranium from Africa. It's on a par with COLON Powell's presentation to the UN. The US has form. An epidemiological study published in The Lancet when it was still a reputable journal found that the US butchered up to nearly a million civilians in Iraq. All the alleged "evidence" in Hiroshima of a Japanese nuclear program there was completely destroyed. How convenient. The narrative in this article has multiple holes in it. The US lies repeatedly. It never stops. It lies about jabs. It lied about Hunter Biden's laptop. 51 intel officials or former officials claimed in 2020 that the New York Post article about Hunter's laptop had all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation even though they knew it didn't. Only a few years after the US nuked the civilian cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki the US was committing the atrocities in Korea documented by North Korea in the Museum of American War Atrocities. Only a few years after that the US was committing the Mai Lai massacre in Vietnam. The US chose a civilian city to target to create terror not only in Japan but around the world. It could not have cared less about the women and children of what it regarded as an inferior foreign race. It targetted a civilian city to create world terror and to.demonstrate to the foreign lesser race untermenschen that they were "life unworthy of life" and that US Anglo-Saxons were the master race.
I'm skeptical, too. Why didn't the gov't prove it after the surrender and try to justify incinerating 100,000+ civilians? They could have used smaller bombs to target the facility were that the goal.
It's clear we get lied to al lot, and the covid murder spree has made it more clear than ever.
Japan had been offering to surrender long before the atomic bomb experiments.
That's my understanding also but I don't have documentation.
Once one understands how they were manipulated into attacking Pearl Harbor, it isn't hard to believe.
Yes and how did the war start?
Did the US provoke Japan’s attack on Pearl Harbor?
https://www.learnliberty.org/blog/did-the-us-provoke-japans-attack-on-pearl-harbor/
Your comments are totally out there: I am of your generation and I have also issues with the US Govt. but no that is NOT disinformation. wow. AWAKENOTWOKE. I was born in Germany and my Grandfather worked w/ the Americans on the Manhatten Project. I have REAL DOCUMENTS which I inherited in English and German. No I don't think that the USA or the REST OF the WAR BLOOD LUST MONGERING WORLD.. make that NATO, EU and Russia and the US should have tested a BOMB in the US and all over the world.. My father was sent to Korea after four combat tours in Germany and sent home a broken man (Metal plate in his head).. so I have actual reasons to trash some decisions made by the USA. I get that we are the most Propagandized nation second to China, but your comments are truly over the top. Hunter's Laptop was the real deal.. OMG. Russian disinformation. Please .. give me a break here. Your ASSERTIONS without a shred of "documentation" is simply a rant. Have a great weekend if you can break through that bitterness. The Lancet also was the first one out there w/ false information about Covid.. who do you work for? Biden?
Beautifully put brother ANW.
Solid conclusions plead with well restrained white hot h-bomb anger seething just below the surface.
I almost had an orgasm.
Were the master race, now they are the Untermensch (unless they've got a few billion in the bank).
Please read my comment to the post. Whether or not there was an atomic facility in either city is moot on the topic of the bombings being justified. Japan, by its use of civilians in military roles and their homes and schools as munition factories and training camps made them legitimate targets.
Strike first before your enemy. The worst atrocity ever committed by humans (documented) was the rape of the Nanjing (Nanking) by Japanese against the Chinese. The atomic bombs on two Japanese cities was very small payback against what was one of the most imperialistic, brutal, murderous regimes in history. Only one generation ago.
I went to the Imax cinema tonight to watch Oppenheimer.
On a film critique level, I'd say it was beautifully shot, and director Chris Nolan is an accomplished artist in this regard; however, it was way too long, coming in at a run time of 3 hours and could've had at least 30% to 40% excised if the film editor did his/her job properly/had any balls. The lead actor Cillian Murphy - who also acted in Nolan's Inception - did a fabulous job.
To have cast luvvies like Matt Damon, Emily Blunt and Matthew Modine ruined the film partially for me.
The film also lost its way about three quarters way through although it was resurrected in the final 30 minutes.
I'd give it 3½☆ max.
Now, on the score of whether it was to be an accurate representation of fact - well it's a feature film which means it's the director's fictional interpretation, so comments about it not showing certain aspects are just daft.
What is more interesting to me, is why mainstream media has been so taken aback by it?
Is it to be a proxy cautionary tale for Bad Vlad and "communists" vs vassal state Ukraine and uncle Sam?
Because all this navel gazing and appropriating a piece of cinema for a greater cause to me is really the througline of the attention it's getting.
So now let's really deconstruct the money part.
The film had a production budget of USD 100M; break-even at the box office is USD 200M; commercial success is USD 400M.
Gross takings are already at USD 238M so it's on its way. Bravo!!
The luvvies each got paid USD 10M.
The lead deserved it; the others not.
But here's the kicker - more important than the arm's race and the Cold War is that the new Barbie movie has already grossed USD 500M worldwide.
And this ladies and gentlemen is where we are as a civilisation - a total bunch of nitwits.
And why covid, the injection and all the other lockdown measures did not even make a dent in the world population of 8BN souls.
It's all BS.
We're simply wasting our time banging on here until kingdom come.
right. too bloody much ..
Humans coming up with more creative and innovative ways to lay each other to waste. For me, as I wade into the deeper waters that come with the aging process (well seasoned, as it were), the term technologically "advanced" rings rather hollow. I highly doubt our species will ever figure this out.
Paul, lots going on. Jesuits in key US areas, and their assets, directed nuke blasts at both sites. The bombs that Tibbets dropped were decoys. Both bombs were ignited upon ground terrain. USS Indianapolis dropped off the two nukes on Japan island mid July or a bit earlier, then was sunk by one of the few Imperial subs left about end of July. I suspect Hirohito was in on at least part of, if not all of the plan for the two nukes. He has Jesuit asset(s) inside the palace since before birth. Mac did NOT hang Hirohito due to orders from Truman.
Bergamini, in japanese imperial conspiracy, pointed out that around 1543 or so Miyoshi was warned by a stranded English sailor, if I recall, that warned about the Jesuits; Bill Adams later became a samurai, married, family died there. What cities were the Jesuits located? Yes, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Miyoshi killed every Jesuit and their Nippon acolytes, about 3000 deaths.
The Church of Pagan Rome is ruthless and paybacks are a bitch. The Jesuits loved the Shogun feudal system; what you see today in Japan is Jesuit controlled Trilaterals. One more thing to show the power of Jesuits in this situation. Most the Imperial generals wanted to take down Stalin, Jesuits are scholars, they knew a few years before the war of nuke research. They knew Stalin with his rotten red army would fall the Nippon and win. They planned on two cities to be nuked. They pushed Hirohito to go south to Pearl. Yes, FDR knew about the Pearl attack. All carriers were pulled out of Pearl.
Much more, but the above is the framework.
👍👍One Jesuit priest actually survived both nukes at ground zero, "miracuously", according to Jesuit folklore. Building Jesuit "religious" underground nuclear bomb shelters in both cities played no small part. Jesuit local headquarters are the concrete bunkers still standing in ground zero photos at both cities. Some miracle that was...praise the pope & pass the ammunition. Sad facts, but still facts, in black & white, right in front of our blinded eyes.
“Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.” - J Robert Oppenheimer, quoting the Bhagavad Gita.
Was it a coincidence that Oppenheimer turned to Hinduism?
The French born Greek woman Savitri Devi, who is buried beside George Lincoln Rockwell, founder of the American Nazi Party, and who had two PhDs in mathematics and philosophy and who was both an original Nazi, who served time in Germany after WWII for her zealous Nazi activism, and one of the founders of Neo-Nazism, was a Hindu.
Savitri Devi believed that Adolph Hitler, "the greatest European of all time," was Kalki, an avatar of Vishnu (i.e., God Incarnate) who in his last incarnation was "too much sun and not enough lightning" but will return again at the end of the Kali Yuga and will be much more lightning.
I wonder if Oppenheimer believed the same thing.
Even if the US had the means prior to the Soviet Union's defeat of Nazi Germany in April 1945, it would never have used them against Nazi Germany the way the US did against Japan.
Oppenheimer said about the actions of the US: We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.”
It is clear that many Americans, mostly without realizing it, worship Kali, the Hindu Mother Goddess of Death and Deestruction. Murder is their flower. Manslaughter their meat. They worship the Devil.
Anyone who knows the truth is dead by now, so unless someone finds testimony hidden in an old book, we'll never know. You can visit the Trinity site twice a year. The ground, all these decades later, is covered in Trinitite, a glassy chemical created by the blast. They warn you not to pick any up.
https://www.nps.gov/thingstodo/alamogordo-visit-the-trinity-site.htm
Fascinating article. Excellent writing and story telling.
Looks like there are always going to be the deceivers and the one’s trying to uncover the deception’s. A little truth mixed with lyes. Haven’t we seen a lot of that lately. I’m sure it’s always going to be that way. Like my Grandmother use to say.
Son, that kind of thing has been going on before women were riding side saddle.
Thanks again for sharing.
The decision to drop two A-bombs on Japan was made in a cabin at Bohemian Grove, in northern California. Presidents, like Truman, follow their orders.
Fascinating. 🤨
Nuclear bombs are a hoax. Just. Like. Covid.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki would have made Dr. Mengele proud.
TOTALLY AGREE -THE TARGET WAS NOT MILITARY THE US INTELLIGENCE NOTED THAT THE JAPANESE WERE DOING MILITARY W ORK IN SMALL AT HOME FACILITIES, THIIS BY ASND LARGE
WAS FALSE- AS EVERTHING ELSE CIRCULATED BY OUR DEPT OF STATE -WE HAVE A BUNCH OF RAT. BASTARDS ˆN GOVERNMENT THAT NEED BE EXECUTED,
Even without the compelling statements who make, which I in no way contest, the bombings are justified militarily attacks. Each and every home and primary school in Japan during the war was a munitions factory. Even today, when I take the train into central Tokyo to work I can see automobile fenders piled atop the roof of a small apartment building. Another has leather curing. A friend’s father in law runs his machinist’s shop on the first floor of his three story home. These are just a few examples I know from personal experience. During the war, these and all households had quotas of military use goods to produce. The apartment building with the fenders would have had parts for military vehicles, the leather used for military purposes and the machine shop cranking out parts for a wide variety of military equipment. Munition’s factories are legitimate military targets.
Additionally, primary schools were long used as book camps for Japanese. Many left primary school and marched in to their first battle at a very young age. There are photographs published depicting school girls undergoing various military training from rifle firing to drilling with bamboo spears. A schoolmate of mine told of her then 12 year old grandmother training at school to rush at landing marines at the beaches with their bamboo spears.
Either by naivety or design, the Imperial Japanese Government turned all households and schools into legally targetable sites, there is the war crime.
question the narrative…
https://dfreality.substack.com/p/the-coincidence-zone-atomic-edition-931
💯💥💥