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Duchess's avatar

Here'is what I think you should see :https://youtu.be/dBXlcYK0WtA

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Rob Kay's avatar

I'm getting this, but these are from a very low baseline.

I mean, deaths in this middle aged/adult group are quite rare, OK?

But sure, I'm open minded: if this pattern is repeated across all adults, in all countries that went for the mass jabs, then clearly there is a massive problem.

Me, I would rather eat dog sick than take this vaccine, but I am still having real issues trying to figure out the real picture, as opposed to all those silly posts telling us to gargle with salt water: lets agree that there is a lot of sheer 'chaff' out there, and that it confuses the issue.

I still don't know anyone who died either with Covid or from the Vaccine, so either I live a very quiet life, or the numbers are really quite tiny.

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Duchess's avatar

And that is your experience and I honor that. I would like nothing more than for all of this to be a big nothingburger. It will be about a year before we get any idea of what is really happening, and I dont doubt they will fiddle th numbers anyway. I know that in 2020 deaths were not above the 2018 flu season, which had more deaths. But I also dont trust the govt numbers anymore...the UK used to have the best, most tranparent, but they started fiddling with what they reported about two months ago so...

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Rob Kay's avatar

Yes and no. They can't and won't deny the deaths, but as for the definitions, well, that is a different matter.

I have no real interest in counting 'covid' deaths: you might as well count deaths of people with spotty bums, or people who had childhood freckles: these are nearly all the deaths of the very aged and sick who would die anyway this year or next.

Broadly speaking, the deaths of younger people have far more import, and it is fine to look at 'all-cause' deaths, because we are now confusing deaths with Covid and deaths with the damned jag.

I would focus in on any excess deaths of those aged under 65: and as I am 68 myself, at least I have no conflict of interest!

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