Yes, Fauci's job was to bring a fake false-positive PCR-manufactured lie of a non-pandemic, a lie of asymptomatic spread to make Trump look ineffective; they DID! lockdowns HURT him!
You should know better. Saying Trump lost 2020 with the mountain of evidence that’s available on independent media is like saying the vaccines are safe and effective and ignoring the litany of evidence to the contrary.
I just dont understand how you can say that. What I am trying to say is that the COVID response played a role in the way some people voted for they were hurt by the lockdown lunacy...there is data you dont know about...the media kept from you...many American children were found in their bedrooms hung...they killed themselves. how did their parents vote?
We know that. People died from lockdown actions. WE KNOW THAT. We know some people didn't like "mean tweets". We know that. But we also know the increase in Trump voting from 2016 to 2020, greatest since Reagan for a Republican. No President ever went up as much as Trump did from his first to second election, and lost. No way Biden got all those votes. It was fixed. We can hold a position that kids committed suicide, while also understanding the Covid scam had multiple goals, one being to get people scared enough to take a gene therapy jab, BUT, more importantly to the power grabbers, get Americans to agree to massive mail in ballots because they want to 'social distance'. Without a fear scam, Americans would not have gone along. THAT was the major goal. The ONLY way they could cheat Biden into the White House. If you do not see that at this point, it will cause me and many others to question your judgement now. Don't go squirrelly on us now Dr. Paul!!!!
Again, you cast Trump in bad light while saying you support him.
Why did polling stations in key swing states all close at the same time election night with Trump leading in every one of those states? Again the census bureau numbers don't add up...
all true and I did say they concocted and mails ins and the like, you must read all my writing, I have been here 2 years now and I wore in my book...did you work for him? I worked for him for a reason, I SUPPORTED him, still do...so you must stop saying I paint him in bad light...I might be the only person writing with some balanced...I can support and love someone but call them out...alike our kids for example...or loved ones...love and support my must be blind, it must carry expectation and responsibilities. I Am not a blind follower...I am thinking and sharing and you do not need believe me or accept me...same I as to you. its the magic and beauty of freedom. but re-read...you missed some parts.
I'm not a blind follower either but I'm offering a counter point that you seem to ignore. To say Trump lost the election is in reality false.
There is data to prove it. There is also the fact that up to 7 states violated the Constitution by changing election laws without the consent of state legislatures. I'm an old retired private citizen who has spent the past 8 years researching our corrupt government for up to 15 hours a day and in all that time I have only taken 1 day off. I do thus without pay. I do this because our country is going to shit at the hands of traitors. I love many of your posts, that's why I'm here. I'm still learning each and every day. I hope to continue to learn from you but when I disagree I will respond with whatever counter point I have.
I did not work for him. As a voter and a citizen, he worked for me. I don't believe I missed anything. You imply in some of your responses that Trump did win but not by enough for the votes he lost for the lockdowns, but the numbers tell a different story
112 million legal votes with 154 million votes counted. That implies that there were 42 million more votes counted then were legal votes. Those are the votes that were stolen. The vote additions were one of a hundred things they did to steal the election. There is no way Biden got 81 million votes from his basement while mumbling nonsense.
Can you imagine how many more drug overdoses and suicides would have happened if the lockdowns lasted years instead of months? Trump locked us down on knowingly false data for 6 weeks. After that the corrupt dc establishment took over and used every trick in the book to steal the election but the numbers don't add up. There are 168.3 million registered voters, the voter turnout was 66.8%.
66.8% of 168.3 million registered voters is about 112 million legal votes.
In the national popular vote, Biden received 81.2 million votes and Trump received 74.2 million votes. So there were 112 million legal votes from registered voters and 154.4 million votes counted....the numbers just don't add up.
I hope those that did not vote for Trump enjoyed their 4 years of Biden along with the vaccine mandates and the overall insanity of the ladt 4 years. Had enough yet?
Yeah! Only we're not going to allow this evil corruption to continue. Perhaps God...Jesus Christ will send His Angels to take the corrupt and wicked ones out when enough people pray in earnest.
I don't understand why you don't see that even if Trump lost votes because of covid response, he gained many more because of the economy? It's always about the economy. Always. And, those who opened their eyes saw how he was fighting to reopen businesses but governors stood in the way. He won by large margins, more than he had won in 2016. More blacks, more Hispanics. The left had to shut sown the voting centers to pump out the fraud. That is how much Trump won.
I dont think you read my writing, and across time...there is no one other than he for the job...do you think those now harmed by the vaccine that came under him, regardless of Boden rolling out...do you think they will be happy voting? he cant leave it alone. he has to fix it
I actually did read what you wrote. You said he won but not enough to insulate him from the cheating because of the covid lockdowns, etc. I say that he didn't win BECAUSE of the covid lockdown policies put in place by governors who usurped their authority--massive mail-in ballots allowed, as well as ballot drop-off boxes. Obviously he wasn't immune to the cheating, but remember that the numbers for him were so explosive that the left closed down voting centers to cheat even more than they'd originally planned. The conclusion I have is that they were prepared for as much as necessary to "win."
How you can say Trump Lost legitimately is beyond me. There’s all kinds of investigations now state by state because there is evidence that votes were stolen. We need to go back to paper ballots and one day voting. When you have 45 days to vote it gives the other side Enough information as to how much ballot stuffing they need to do but when you do it one day like what happened in 2020 they’re surprised and they can’t possibly make it up fast enough with their ballot stuffing. Anything that is electronic can absolutely be altered. We need to be more vigilant on these investigations because you can’t just sweep them under the rug. Third World countries have more secure voting than we do right now.
thanks...but you refuse to have a proper discussion...Trump did not lose only because of stolen votes, I say that, they stole votes...but he lost due to the lockdowns...no one is sweeping anything under the rug...but I have an open mind and understand the scope.
You said he legitimately lost the election. He absolutely won the legitimate vote. They injected fake votes, flipped real votes from Trump to Biden. You're wrong on this one. There is no way that both of the candidates in one election broke the record for the most votes in history without a massive population and voter registration increase to justify it. It's just not possible. It is fine to say that he very likely would have gotten more votes than the records setting number he already got, but he already won. Then they stole it.
yes, I have said that too, but the lockdowns hurt him enough that with the steal, his legitimate won was erased...had there been no pandemic, it would have been a blow out...the response hurt him and he did win, but when all was said and done, he lost...and dont fool yourself, republicans steal votes too...its ONE party ...if he speaks out against the lockdowns and vaccine, he will landslide win...if not, Biden et al. will hurt him again. they can.
The pandemic was the cover for the steal, no doubt. It brought in emergency and illegal changes to voting in states like PA where they illegally implemented universal mail-in voting without the legislature. Trump actually gained votes and increased the size of his base. They had to flip or steal probably 20M votes to beat him. His persistent pride in Warpspeed, and his inability to admit he was duped by Fauci and Brix is his achilles heal. It's the main thing I would like to see a 180 on, but he still has the votes even with how stupid that position is. Not trying to argue. I agree he's ridiculously off base on this, but saying he won 2020 regardless of the vaxx is not Trump savior syndrome. It's a fact.
The lockdowns were the engine for ballot fraud. Lockdowns, mandates for mail-in ballots...THAT WAS the blank canvas for the fraud. The only way they could contrive a large enough steal---that defied math, btw---was through the imposition of mail-in voting with a murky, nebulous, outright unsupervised chain of custody.
But Trump didn’t lose on the lockdowns. This was right at the beginning of the pandemic. Nobody knew truly what was going on. A great many of us. New masks didn’t work and it was stupid. I used to work in healthcare for 28 years. I never put a mask on unless I had to go to the hospital. I was followed around in Lowe’s by a woman who called me a murderer. I entered a store and I waved those mask people off. I called out the cross contamination of these masks. But remember Trump didn’t mandate the shot. He wouldn’t wear a mask either. He said he never wanted the shot to be mandated. It was Biden who came in and really locked us down and mandated the shot. He’s the one that said people shouldn’t be allowed to go to the grocery store, etc. unless we got the shot and wore the mask. He was the one that banned us from getting ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine at the time. Trump was the one that brought up how hydroxychloroquine was having good results over in Italy because he spoke to a doctor over there. He got shot down for every treatment that he said he was learning about and mocked for it. He truly wanted to learn about how to fight viruses because he’s not a doctor. He really wanted to help us and thought these shots would be great because that’s what he was spoonfed. He got duped. He had to trust Fauci and doctor Birx because they had been in their positions for so long. He said he didn’t like Fauci, but he was stuck with them or so he thought. I’m sure there’s a lot of things he would’ve done differently now that he knows better. The one thing I wish is that he would come out and say how dangerous these shots are now that they really weren’t all that. I wish she would say that he got duped. On the Ivermectin subject, I’m from Michigan and we can’t get Ivermectin. Walgreens and CVS etc. are not allowed to fill prescriptions for ivermectin unless it was for pinworms or something. The pharmacist trumped the doctors every time on that issue. I had to go through a concierge doctor and have the ivermectin made for my husband and kids who got Covid early on at the one and only compound pharmacy we have. They were allowed to make it because they were a compound pharmacy. my best friend died in the hospital at 49 years old because she was denied those medication‘s. They put her on a ventilator. That’s a story to tell in an of itself also. I’d love to share it with you if you’re willing to listen. Anyway, she wouldn’t take the ivermectin as an outpatient because she was on the fence about whether it was a horse dewormer or not. I gave her so much information saying how safe that drug is, but she had a sister who is a pharmacy tech who is telling her it was horse dewormer, so she was terrified to take it. When she went in the hospital, I told her, now someone needs to sneak it into you and she wouldn’t do it. They stuck her in a room and forgot about her. Took her vitamin D away. All her supplements she took they wouldn’t allow her to take. How she got on the ventilator is just negligence. She didn’t need to go on a ventilator. She was unvaccinated also. She refused to take the shot. Her whole family took it though behind her back and she was so upset. She was talking with just a little shortness of breath but her oxygen level was at 75. Her husband said that these doctors offered her the ventilator one time and they said if she didn’t take the offer then they would put her in the step down room and make her comfortable until she died. They discussed it and then decided to have her go on it. They wouldn’t even let her call her children before they put her on the ventilator. She died three days later. They told her husband that if she were to survive now then she would be on oxygen for the rest of her life and have a poor quality of life. So they decided to take her off the ventilator. Her lungs couldn’t Handle getting off the ventilator. I’m convinced that they messed her lungs up. I was beside myself. I tried so hard to get her family to listen to me to have my friend listen to me prior to her going into the hospital. I gave her family the FLCC protocol sheets, and I even wrote at the top do not let them put her on a ventilator. I told her family they’re killing people in the hospital, but that’s what ended up happening. I lost my best friend in January 2021. She had asthma and struggled with it over the summer of 2020, then she got pneumonia, which I think was improperly treated along with her asthma. I begged her to see a pulmonologist (I thought she was on the wrong antibiotic and they never did a sputum sample which is what I wanted her to have but her primary care doctor said she wasn’t allowed to order that test, which I think is ridiculous ) and it wasn’t until she got very sick towards the end that her primary care doctor referred her to a pulmonologist. Her appointment was in February and she died in January. After her pneumonia, her husband comes home bringing Covid. At his work they were all masked up and he even took the shot and brings Covid home to her. So with her asthma, pneumonia, and now Covid it was a downward spiral from there. She couldn’t even try Ivermectin in the hospital. I wish she would’ve taken it as an outpatient. I brought her the whole gamut of Covid treatment that was on the FLCC protocol list that I could get her like the melatonin, Pepcid, etc. I was telling her to tell the doctors what medication’s she wanted like the budesonide inhaler and other things but she is not one to question the doctors nor is her family. I begged her to let me be her advocate, but she said she’d be fine. Now she’s with Jesus, which is a better place to be then here on this earth. Anyway, sorry I went off on a different direction but I blame Biden for the direction her care went because Trump was all for the right to try when it came to medication‘s. The Biden administration ended that.
Wow...what a heartbreaking nightmare!! And your story is actually very commonplace, experienced by so many people. And know that the push for ventilators was directly correlated to the additional payments hospitals received for every ventilated patient, hence the murderous Fauci scheme of the protocol directing hospitals to not admit patients until they couldn't breathe...then off they go to the ventilator and/or remdesivir, AKA 'run-death-is-near'. That man is a modern Mengele and I hope to see him get his just reward. Not just for the ventilators and remdesivir, but also for the deliberate, malicious war on life-saving, cheap HCQ and ivermectin. I bought mine direct from India, since no doctors would prescribe it, and no pharmacies around here would even carry it. Fauci and comrades pressured the American manufacturers and contributors to hold back shipments to pharmacies, to create an artificial shortage.
Thank God our compounding pharmacy could make it and distribute it. I fought for it and the right to try in my state. I even spoke before or state health and human resource committee meeting when they were voting on vaccine passports. Omg the stupidity of the democrats who were on that committee🤦🏼♀️. I spoke on everything I could in my 3 minutes.
Oh I am! The problem is we have to constantly check the docket to see what they are voting on. I belong to a legal group that monitors that but often times when they say to get to the capitol it’s such short notice. I live a little over an hour away. I always sign up to give comments and if I can’t be there in person I do fill out a notecard. They have to read every single note card too. So you need to be vigilant. People get tired of the fight. The democrats are betting on that too. They want you to start to not care.
Paul, I understand your point, they used the plandemic and lockdowns as a way to cheat. And too many state and local officials went along with it and did not abide by election laws already in place.
many cheated...but the lockdowns hurt him and with the cheat, his win was not convincing...he won yes, but not by the amount that the cheat could have easily erased...the lockdowns hurt him...polling inside told us this. thats all I can say...and he did win, dont mistake what I am saying but not by what he should have to avoid any tampering...his win was weak because of the lockdowns and that gave them the ability to erase that with ease.
If the real vote totals for Trump were given, and the illegal "ballot" votes for Biden removed, Trump had millions more actual votes from real people than Biden.
Many many votes were removed from Trump's total by machine manipulation.
The American people were disenfranchised big time.
Michigan is just now doing an investigation on the voter rolls. More votes than people in many cities. They tried to get the voter rolls cleared before the election but Jocelyn Benson said no. Trump won Michigan. The governor race was fishy too. Garrett Soldano should’ve been the GOP candidate. Tudor Dixon came out of the blue where Garrett was leading by a long shot and was GIVEN the GOP nomination. Very odd
Our Democrat governor did that, too. Even took over the emergency broadcast system at Thanksgiving to tell us to stay home. This is the same guy, who along with that THING that was state health Sec at the time and is now the US Deputy Health Sec, deliberately sent infected covid patients into the state's nursing homes, where they weren't even residents. Richard Levine, the man who pretends to be an exceptionally ugly woman, removed his mother from the nursing home where she lived and set her up in a hotel, before sending in the covid patients. At least 40% of PA's *covid deaths* were nursing home residents.
That’s right! In Michigan, Whitmer extended them over and over again AND mandated masks. Couldn’t go to your cottage (however people from Illinois could go to their cottage in Michigan) or be on a boat with a motor. She mandated all DIY and plant product shelves be taped off so we couldn’t buy plants or begin a project at home. She was the one that said only so many people could be in bars and restaurants. She’s the one that closed mom and pop stores but allowed big box stores to be open. Health food stores had to be closed yet liquor and canibus stores could be open. She closed the beaches, parks and churches. WHITMER wouldn’t allow people to be with their dying loved one due to Covid restrictions in the hospital. NONE of these actions were from Trump. Not one!!!
Ditto here in PA, the same smugly draconian *mitigations*. Although I do believe Whitmer was the most incredibly fascist, with her diktats about seeds and garden supplies.
Which of course is the case with all the so-called Coronavirus legislation, it was individuals and other levels of government that decided how heavy to go depending on how totalitarian they really were underneath.
It was all ultimately a ploy to expose the mini Hitlers and Stalins in our midst.
And boy did it expose them!
In the UK it was all guidance if people had bothered to check, common sense not withstanding.
The lockdowns went STATE BY STATE! Whitmer kept the lockdowns going dispute our constant protesting. Garrett Soldano (GOP GOVERNOR CANDIDATE) was responsible for getting kids back to school and sports and also unmasking the kids
Trump most certainly did NOT lose the 2020 election, Paul, and I am not even a Trump worshipper. I have been studying rigged elections for 23 years. I watched almost every state hearing about the 2020 election fraud. There was mountains of evidence but courts and state legislatures are owned just like everything else. Trump still won more counties by far than Biden, or Obama before him, yet somehow still “lost.” That’s where covid comes in. Covid didn’t defeat Trump. Lockdowns didn’t defeat him. Covid allowed for mail in voting. THAT, combined with multiple other illegal tactics, cost Trump the win. Mail in ballots and easily rigged voting machines!
what happen if I told you internal polls and feedback form voters told us they were dismayed by the lockdowns...you think the lockdown lunacy did not hurt him?
I’m sure it did hurt him, absolutely. What hurt more, though, was allowing them to set up mail in ballots because of the fake pandemic and then finish the steal with the easily rigged voting machines. He got played like maybe no other president in history. How and why is what I want to know. How did they trick the most powerful man in the world, who didn’t have to listen to any of them, to rubber-stamp a fake pandemic and a deadly bioweapon that has now killed or maimed billions?
I suspect that video you shared of his press conference encouraging lockdowns holds a clue. They’re all standing up there giddy as school kids. Trump even gives a little wink and sly smile to somebody in the press. He looks more interested in the proceedings like they’re one of his game shows not to be taken too seriously. Like they used his ego against him. I don’t know but I DO know if you or I were in that position we damn well would’ve done our research instead of trusting lifetime swamp bureaucrats before closing down the country! I am just a carpenter and I knew by March 2020 it was all bullshit!! How the holy f*ck did Trump not know, Paul? I’m sorry but I don’t care if he was wrong or duped. You and I would have told the truth and sacrificed the presidency if we had to…even if the whole country laughed at us. Because we were right! But not Trump. He failed when the biggest crime in human history could have been stopped. He could have looked in the camera and told the American people the truth. I drove 8 hours to DC to support him and I would have done it to back him up calling out the fake pandemic!
And he’s still bragging about the jabs. And he still signed EO 13887 the day after the WHO asked for it. He still took a million from Pfizer and gave RFK Jr the boot. He still picked a “vaccine” that was already made before the fake pandemic (as admitted live on air by Pete Navarro while guest hosting Bannon’s Warroom in early 2022).
All that being said I STILL want Trump back in the White House. I want to see if he’ll go scorched earth on the bastards who rigged the 2020 election and started a fake pandemic, he won’t start more wars, and he’ll fix illegal immigration.
Trump DIDNT lock us down. In Michigan WHITMER locked us down and kept us locked down. It went state by state. Whitmer kept extending the lockdown to get more Covid emergency money. That’s not Trump! Remember it was only supposed to be 2 weeks. We were ok with two weeks but then we started learning the truth during that time. Garrett Soldano who was the leading GOO governor candidate went on Facebook and said something is fishy. He’s a chiropractor and wholistic health expert and he got locked out of social media by saying take your vitamin D because they were finding people low in vitamin D were the sickest. He made one post about it and called out other issues like masks don’t work. He went to 400,000 plus followers in one day from that post. Facebook shut him down. But we all found Garrett’s new account , that got shut down too so then he used his wife’s Facebook account.
I AM SORRY, the clarity I cannot write here. I tried to help you get there. I can understand what you are saying for I was part of that too, even asked to partake in the recount efforts etc. again, its all I can say. I support him as much as you. but Trump Jan 2020 was not Trump July 2020...he was in trouble and his people said lockdowns...regardless of the stolen votes...read what I said again...he won, just not by enough. and you can quote what Denish and all the talking heads say...I was there. he won, but not by enough...no steal, he won, but had there been no lockdowns, the steal would have ailed...the lockdowns made the won surmountable. you have to stop thinking one way and think broadly.
In July 2020 Trump could not win.
Yes, he turned it around but the lockdowns took him from unstoppable Jan 2020 to no win July 2020...and he turned it around by Oct 2020 but got over finish line first, YES...he won, but not by enough to spoil the steal. do not ask me how I knew in July 2020 he could not win.
and today he is the only one for the job...always was...to fix the greatest nation...but I talk facts...I have taken the emotion out of it. lockdowns hurt him bad and the vaccine and its effects WILL hurt him if he continues saying it worked.
I am very surprised to read what you are saying Paul. True the Vote is only one source where you will get the correct vote counts that proves that Trump won the election in 2020. Why else have they tried to persecute these people who came out with the truth? I will agree with you that Trump could have lost votes due to lock downs, etc., but the facts are that he won the 2020 election regardless of that! You say you have an open mind, well open it up to accept the fact that Trump DID WIN! Kids found hung in their bedrooms has nothing to do with Trump. It has to do with our sick education system and the filthy MSM that lie to us every single day.
Trump won by more in all the swing states in 2020 than in 2016. What math are you using? He got 12 million more votes than in 2016. The aggregate numbers are clear. Biden supporters were in itty bitty crop circles. Nobody was enthusiastic about Biden. All legit metrics show Trump won. Time to take the "L" on this one Dr. Paul.
Trump didn’t lock us down! It went state by state. I live in Michigan and whiter kept extending the lockdown. It was only supposed to be 2 weeks to stop the spread. We had the most ridiculous rules too. Like, couldn’t be in a boat with a motor yet her husband goes and puts their boat in the water and complains because there was no one able to put his dock in because Whitmer wouldn’t allow it. He even tried to pull the, I’m the governors husband, card.
Please step back and read and re-read what I am saying...I said he won but not by enough so that the steal was easy, had he won by lots had there been no lockdowns, they could not steal...both sides steal...wake up...but the lockdowns hurt him enough that placed the steal in reach...in Jan 2020 he was unstoppable...polls showed us...July 2020 he was DOA...could not win...the election begin end July 2020 to Nov 3rd...and 45 did the magic we thought, we erased deficits and went ahead...but not by enough to avoid the steal...
Paul, you have to stop saying Trump lost. He won, and we all know it. When someone cheats in a board game, or a card game, or an Olympic contest to "win", they did NOT win, they cheated, and are disqualified.
The election system is the problem. The voter rolls in many states are padded with tens of thousands of names that should have been scrubbed for one reason or another, and the criminals running the elections USE these "names" to cast "votes" for them.
In addition, the MACHINES are connected to the internet, intentionally, and are used to manipulate vote totals and manipulate outcomes.
IT'S THE SYSTEM THAT IS THE PROBLEM. Sure, they used the covid hoax so they could drop in MILLIONS of illegal ballots from non existent people in swing states. But it's the election system that needs to be fixed. Only brain-dead dolts actually believe Biden got 81 million real, lawful votes from real people. It only takes a few thousand pristine pre-printed ballots trucked in and inserted into the count to steal an election.
We MUST have ONE DAY VOTING, NO mail in ballots, except for the "absentee ballots" that some real people need to use, but they must be validated by signature. And NO MACHINE VOTING OR COUNTING. PAPER BALLOTS and votes counted BY HAND at the local precinct level. The totals will be known by midnight, no more cheating.
Trump DID win, the Dems cheated, and the UniParty RINO's helped them in swing states like GA, MI, WI, AZ. This is what happened, the lawless people cheated, and cheating gets you disqualified and sent to prison.
Hysterical proclamations don’t make it so. Where are the receipts that conclusively demonstrate that Donald Trump lost the 2020 election. I don’t believe it. I have seen too much evidence to the contrary over the last 3+years. If I’ve seen it, I’m sure Trump has seen volumes more. On the other hand, I don’t think President Trump is the right presidential candidate for now and for the future for several reasons which I have enumerated previously. Most importantly, he was NOT able to control the swamp during his first presidency and I don’t think he can comprehensively do it now. That said…. almost anyone is better than Joe Biden. I will somewhat reluctantly vote for Donald Trump and hope for the best.
this is a sore topic for many, me too..I wanted him in WH...but he is not...and the lockdowns hurt him. they will again if he continues praising them and the vaccines. the deaths now have accumulated...be careful, the deaths did not yet accumulate from vaccine...now people are angry. lockdowns hurt him before, now lockdowns and vaccines...my mail is a clarion call.
Trump should just say nothing unprompted in this area. And when asked about any of it, shift to explaining what he will do to hold the liars to account. When he gets the inevitable pushback from lefty media trying to get a 'Stephanopolus/Romney" moment, he hammers back harder with removing liability protection, etc. Everytime they pushback, he then goes further in highlighting the malfeasance by a Fauci or anyone else who operated under the Biden admin. He has to do that consistently so no sound bites. The Left media will stop asking for the most part then because Trump will be hurting the Left position. Trumps opportunity to disavow OWS wholesale ended at the end of 2021. No need for him to now give the Left a hammer to smash him with. We have to be wise as serpents now. Not emotive as infants.
The surprising thing here is that you won't hear someone who knows tell what the Trump vaccine for OWS was and why he had to do OWS. His vaccine was NOT mRNA, it was hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and zinc and it did save many lives.
I don’t believe that Trump lost, the hard data suggests that the election was stolen by means of interference with the voting software and massive ballot harvesting including fake ballots without the proper watermark. There was a setup that included using the FBI to run cover for the laptop, the release and timing of the plandemic, fake PCR data and the J6 setup. Desperate people do desperate things. America is awake now and we may have lost 4 years progress and suffered an invasion, but we will recover and MAGA.
yes, I said that, votes were messed with...but there is another aspect you refuse to consider...I can speak and cannot say more...just that the lockdowns hurt him badly. and this is why we want him to speak out about it now...it will hurt him again. do not think Biden et al. is a walk over.
Biden won't be on the ballot in November. I and others have been saying Trump can't win in November because in the SWING states, there has been no real voting integrity reform. PA has gotten worse. (And for all those who cheered DeSantis re-election in Florida, note that Trump gained a greater % of new votes in 2020 in PA than DeSantis did in his re-election in Florida.) I don't entertain "both sides do something" argument if there is no data that can weigh the amount done. Media does it all the time by showing a normal person and a deranged person on an issue, where they frame it as too equally-weighted position. Think of the gender pervs out there, where a news segment shows them, and then a normal mom. They frame to give the impression that there is 50% of people on both sides, which sane people know is not the case. Well, that is the case with "Republicans cheat too." Duh. Of course some do, but the weighting is not even near close to what the Dems do, so bringing that up just gives the Dems what they want, the opportunity for aircover on the cheating issue. I'm in the data industry for decades. I know IT systems, databases, etc. The evidence has passed the sniff test years ago on the amount of cheating and how that is what installed Biden in the White House. To not understand that at this point, and go down the path you continue to, just feeds into the Dems ultimate goals.
I agree with you, Biden will not be the Democrat candidate. They are going to pull him and put someone like Whitmer or Newsom in. Maybe even Michelle Obama. Heck maybe Taylor Swift! Lol!
Dr Paul is technically correct in his analysis and I know that he's holding a few things back for good and proper reasons. However, there are filings this week in more than one court that contain information so explosive that the entire narrative of American elections will be turned on it's head. What I mean is, this particular conversation is premature by a few weeks. It's almost certain that Trump has said things about the shots and continues to appear to support them, that he will not be saying for much longer. To borrow an analogy; It's near the completion of WWII and you're listening to the leader in occupied France promise you the world. However, four feet from this leader stands one of Hitler's finest, fully armed. How much stock do you put in the leaders words? I assume most people realize by now that we are dealing with Psychopaths and assassins!! They are seriously sick. They have already murdered millions more than Hitler for Christs sake! Trump only lost the election because of the SELECTION and people are about to find out that it was partially by an act of war via treason inside the Beltway AND OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY! Huge changes are right around the corner.
Huge changes, I hope those changes are we go back to paper ballots and voting only on election day. It worked before. Remember when you found out who your president was later that night after 8 PM?
No, Trump won the 2020 election, and he won it by large measures. Acquiring 12,000,000 more votes than in 2016. More votes than 0bama in either of his *elections*. Capturing all but one bellwether county, while Biden LOST all but one. You can not seriously entertain the idea that Biden---legendarily corrupt dimwitted, racist, media-outed pathological liar and plagiarist---massively outperformed even 0bama, and Trump. It didn't happen. Anecdotally, I was one of the GOP observers in Philadelphia. Trump was ahead by 800,000 votes, with over half the votes in, when---for the first time in our nation's history,---PA and a half dozen other key states shut down the counting, in choreographed uniformity. Magically, in each, when the unprecedented closures reopened, Biden was ahead in all. In PA, the state is red, outside of Philly, Pittsburgh and a couple of much smaller cities, yet Biden impossibly surpassed Trump's winning lead, and then some. As an observer, I can testify that we were barred from re-entering the counting center. BARRED, in blatant defiance of the law, and embellished by covering the windows, doors so that we could not even *observe* from the outside until after many court orders, we were finally admitted, after the cheat was done. Let me emphasize that word...CHEAT. Then, once admitted, we were barred from actually observing at a distance that would permit seeing the ballots, with the Dems arguing that *covid mitigation* demanded that GOP observers not be near those doing the counting, AKK 'cheating', in defiance of election law requiring observers be close enough to view and read the ballots. PA's hard left Supreme Court quite literally and illegally legislated its own laws in ruling that observers could only observe from 20 feet. Covid mitigation, as you know, required only a 6 foot buffer.
They cheated their lying asses off, and you should shed any dangerous delusion that this was in any way, shape, or form a free, fair, and legitimate election. I will also add that cheating and election fraud has long been an acknowledged reality in Philly, and common sense would dictate that this extrapolates to other blue cities. Let me remind you that in 2012, again as a poll observer, the GOP reps were ejected and barred from many of the city's precincts. It took an emergency court injunction to force the Dems to admit GOP observers, costing hours of oversight, in a city that had over 4 dozen precincts tabulate ~110% voter turnout...for 0bama, of course.
I was a poll watcher. In my district Hispanics came in huge numbers by bus loads with someone assisting them. They showed a passport for their ID. You could clearly see they had no idea what they were doing. They were led step by step. THEN, when they went in the voting booth they had a DEMOCRAT interpreter helping with their ballot but they are supposed to have a republican as well. I can say we need more GOP interpreters to volunteer on voting day. I complained to the election inspector about the voter only having a one party interpreter and she was mad I brought this up. I called the GOP hotline to report what was going on and they did come over. There was nothing they could do because there was only Democrat interpreters. I couldn’t challenge these voters either because it’s illegal to challenge based on someone’s race and inability to speak English.
Republicans need to step up and take a volunteer position like mine or take a paying position at the polling stations and counting stations otherwise democrats will always run our elections.
Also, run as a GOP delegate for your area. There are THOUSANDS of open GOP delegate positions in each state that NEVER get filled. You don’t need to do campaigning for yourself if you don’t want to. You just sign up to put your name on the ballot. If you’re the only one there you win by default. Democrats don’t bother running for delegates because their party is run by the higher-ups and it’s dictated what their candidates will do. A delegate is powerless in the Democrat party.
Oh, it's a war. And in Dem-controlled cities like Philly---85+% of the electorate is registered 'D', it's almost futile. 70 years of this. GOP routinely has to seek emergency injunctions to get the observers into the polls and tabulating areas, because the Dems brazenly flip the middle finger to the laws. Filing complaints with election oversight agencies, Committee of Seventy, et al, only results in boilerplate tepid, *we'll try to not let it happen next time*. Me: uh-huh, but what are your plans to address the CURRENT abuses and lawbreaking? ...Always silence in response.
We believe what we observe. I observed, physically, in 2020, and there was nothing of cognitive dissonance in the smugly open fraud, disregard for election law, and state Supreme Courts actively and illegally legislating their opinion into law, while overriding the still red PA legislature's laws. Courts can not make or alter law. They did, and of course, since the courts are corrupted and controlled by the left, there is no one to enforce the law. Per Philly, the city Sheriff refused to enforce a court order that permitted GOP observers to be allowed entry to the Convention Center ( where the votes were counted).
again I agree...read what I wrote...but we have to have balance...there are millions now with vaccine injuries who will have issues Nov 2024 at the polls...they were hurt and do not need 45 to praise the vaccine...it was an unfortunate unforced error
I did read. And I disagree with your reasoning and explained why. Trump did not concoct that vaccine and the blame needs to be squarely on those who did and aggressively, even forcibly, pushed it. It will be a HUGE misstep to accuse those malfeasants, WITHOUT the incontrovertible proof in hand. he MUST have that in hand, BEFORE he makes any statement. Even with proof, you have witnessed how our state media pressitutes flagrantly lie about demonstrably provable truths. Do not give them the added ammunition via demanding an *apology*, which we know will be refuted by them, no matter how egregiously they spin and lie. There's your balance. Let's get him into office first, and he will get there without that apology, because we have other imminently existential worries right now, like a WW3, and the impoverishment of our citizens, as just a shortlist.
I should also add, (mentioned below), the swing states all violated the Constitution. They illegally changed their election laws contrary to the Constitution. The Supreme Court FAILED to uphold the Constitution with the Texas lawsuit. For some strange reason, the Court said, "No Standing" A ridiculous decision since all of the 12 states in the lawsuit, as well as each and every American was affected by the election and ALL had standing. The proper remedy, would have been the Court ordered all new elections in the swing states, performed according to Constitutional requirements. The entire purpose of the Supreme Court is to uphold the Constitution, why even have a SUPREME COURT IF THEY REFUSE TO DO THEIR JOB? We've wondered if the justices were threatened, or their families threatened or targeted, it's possible.
I’m sure they were threatened. Nobody wants to see cities burned either. There’s a cost to telling the truth but you need to be brave enough to tell the truth despite the consequences.. Brace yourself for what the truth brings. The deep state is dangerous.
Unfortunately, swearing on the Bible does not have the same meaning to most politicians and many judicial activists that it does to someone like me or you.
The cheating the Dems did was massive. 2000 Mules. $400 million Zuckerbucks. Drop and roll, Trump was ahead in the swing states then the voting stopped simultaneously in each of those states, then when the voting resumed, Biden was now miraculously ahead, and they kept Biden ahead. See "Let My People Go" for more cheating. Books written about the cheating, Rigged, The Parallel Election, many more. Wisconsin, they went into the nursing homes and filled out the ballots for Biden for vegetative people. I could fill pages with all the cheating
You should know better. Saying Trump lost 2020 with the mountain of evidence that’s available on independent media is like saying the vaccines are safe and effective and ignoring the litany of evidence to the contrary.
I just dont understand how you can say that. What I am trying to say is that the COVID response played a role in the way some people voted for they were hurt by the lockdown lunacy...there is data you dont know about...the media kept from you...many American children were found in their bedrooms hung...they killed themselves. how did their parents vote?
We know that. People died from lockdown actions. WE KNOW THAT. We know some people didn't like "mean tweets". We know that. But we also know the increase in Trump voting from 2016 to 2020, greatest since Reagan for a Republican. No President ever went up as much as Trump did from his first to second election, and lost. No way Biden got all those votes. It was fixed. We can hold a position that kids committed suicide, while also understanding the Covid scam had multiple goals, one being to get people scared enough to take a gene therapy jab, BUT, more importantly to the power grabbers, get Americans to agree to massive mail in ballots because they want to 'social distance'. Without a fear scam, Americans would not have gone along. THAT was the major goal. The ONLY way they could cheat Biden into the White House. If you do not see that at this point, it will cause me and many others to question your judgement now. Don't go squirrelly on us now Dr. Paul!!!!
Again, you cast Trump in bad light while saying you support him.
Why did polling stations in key swing states all close at the same time election night with Trump leading in every one of those states? Again the census bureau numbers don't add up...
all true and I did say they concocted and mails ins and the like, you must read all my writing, I have been here 2 years now and I wore in my book...did you work for him? I worked for him for a reason, I SUPPORTED him, still do...so you must stop saying I paint him in bad light...I might be the only person writing with some balanced...I can support and love someone but call them out...alike our kids for example...or loved ones...love and support my must be blind, it must carry expectation and responsibilities. I Am not a blind follower...I am thinking and sharing and you do not need believe me or accept me...same I as to you. its the magic and beauty of freedom. but re-read...you missed some parts.
I'm not a blind follower either but I'm offering a counter point that you seem to ignore. To say Trump lost the election is in reality false.
There is data to prove it. There is also the fact that up to 7 states violated the Constitution by changing election laws without the consent of state legislatures. I'm an old retired private citizen who has spent the past 8 years researching our corrupt government for up to 15 hours a day and in all that time I have only taken 1 day off. I do thus without pay. I do this because our country is going to shit at the hands of traitors. I love many of your posts, that's why I'm here. I'm still learning each and every day. I hope to continue to learn from you but when I disagree I will respond with whatever counter point I have.
I did not work for him. As a voter and a citizen, he worked for me. I don't believe I missed anything. You imply in some of your responses that Trump did win but not by enough for the votes he lost for the lockdowns, but the numbers tell a different story
112 million legal votes with 154 million votes counted. That implies that there were 42 million more votes counted then were legal votes. Those are the votes that were stolen. The vote additions were one of a hundred things they did to steal the election. There is no way Biden got 81 million votes from his basement while mumbling nonsense.
the more you wrote I love it more...huge hugs for your sage...you know I agree with you...I am nuancing the debate and encouraging it
Debate is good...
biden did not win the election.
Can you imagine how many more drug overdoses and suicides would have happened if the lockdowns lasted years instead of months? Trump locked us down on knowingly false data for 6 weeks. After that the corrupt dc establishment took over and used every trick in the book to steal the election but the numbers don't add up. There are 168.3 million registered voters, the voter turnout was 66.8%.
66.8% of 168.3 million registered voters is about 112 million legal votes.
In the national popular vote, Biden received 81.2 million votes and Trump received 74.2 million votes. So there were 112 million legal votes from registered voters and 154.4 million votes counted....the numbers just don't add up.
be careful we dont sound like the other side...
Thank YOU....
I hope those that did not vote for Trump enjoyed their 4 years of Biden along with the vaccine mandates and the overall insanity of the ladt 4 years. Had enough yet?
good comment...but those who took the shots blame 45 too...thats the needle he has to thread and my warning.
Yeah! Only we're not going to allow this evil corruption to continue. Perhaps God...Jesus Christ will send His Angels to take the corrupt and wicked ones out when enough people pray in earnest.
amen
He sent Trump.
I don't understand why you don't see that even if Trump lost votes because of covid response, he gained many more because of the economy? It's always about the economy. Always. And, those who opened their eyes saw how he was fighting to reopen businesses but governors stood in the way. He won by large margins, more than he had won in 2016. More blacks, more Hispanics. The left had to shut sown the voting centers to pump out the fraud. That is how much Trump won.
I dont think you read my writing, and across time...there is no one other than he for the job...do you think those now harmed by the vaccine that came under him, regardless of Boden rolling out...do you think they will be happy voting? he cant leave it alone. he has to fix it
Hello Dr. Alexander,
I actually did read what you wrote. You said he won but not enough to insulate him from the cheating because of the covid lockdowns, etc. I say that he didn't win BECAUSE of the covid lockdown policies put in place by governors who usurped their authority--massive mail-in ballots allowed, as well as ballot drop-off boxes. Obviously he wasn't immune to the cheating, but remember that the numbers for him were so explosive that the left closed down voting centers to cheat even more than they'd originally planned. The conclusion I have is that they were prepared for as much as necessary to "win."
They released 'The Covid' to wreck the economy.
Fauci announced he was certain that there would be
a 'surprise outbreak' to challenge the Trump administration.
Gates and his cohorts worked out all the details and rehearsed
everything at Event 201. How much more out in the open can you be?
How many children hung themselves?
He definitely lost some voters for OWS and lack of transparency.
I don't know where he's coming from. I always said he's part of the SOC...Social Organizing
Collective. He's with a Think-Tank. He puts articles out to get people's opinions and reports it.
How you can say Trump Lost legitimately is beyond me. There’s all kinds of investigations now state by state because there is evidence that votes were stolen. We need to go back to paper ballots and one day voting. When you have 45 days to vote it gives the other side Enough information as to how much ballot stuffing they need to do but when you do it one day like what happened in 2020 they’re surprised and they can’t possibly make it up fast enough with their ballot stuffing. Anything that is electronic can absolutely be altered. We need to be more vigilant on these investigations because you can’t just sweep them under the rug. Third World countries have more secure voting than we do right now.
thanks...but you refuse to have a proper discussion...Trump did not lose only because of stolen votes, I say that, they stole votes...but he lost due to the lockdowns...no one is sweeping anything under the rug...but I have an open mind and understand the scope.
You said he legitimately lost the election. He absolutely won the legitimate vote. They injected fake votes, flipped real votes from Trump to Biden. You're wrong on this one. There is no way that both of the candidates in one election broke the record for the most votes in history without a massive population and voter registration increase to justify it. It's just not possible. It is fine to say that he very likely would have gotten more votes than the records setting number he already got, but he already won. Then they stole it.
yes, I have said that too, but the lockdowns hurt him enough that with the steal, his legitimate won was erased...had there been no pandemic, it would have been a blow out...the response hurt him and he did win, but when all was said and done, he lost...and dont fool yourself, republicans steal votes too...its ONE party ...if he speaks out against the lockdowns and vaccine, he will landslide win...if not, Biden et al. will hurt him again. they can.
The pandemic was the cover for the steal, no doubt. It brought in emergency and illegal changes to voting in states like PA where they illegally implemented universal mail-in voting without the legislature. Trump actually gained votes and increased the size of his base. They had to flip or steal probably 20M votes to beat him. His persistent pride in Warpspeed, and his inability to admit he was duped by Fauci and Brix is his achilles heal. It's the main thing I would like to see a 180 on, but he still has the votes even with how stupid that position is. Not trying to argue. I agree he's ridiculously off base on this, but saying he won 2020 regardless of the vaxx is not Trump savior syndrome. It's a fact.
The lockdowns were the engine for ballot fraud. Lockdowns, mandates for mail-in ballots...THAT WAS the blank canvas for the fraud. The only way they could contrive a large enough steal---that defied math, btw---was through the imposition of mail-in voting with a murky, nebulous, outright unsupervised chain of custody.
They did NOT hurt him enough. He won legitimately. All proof leads to this conclusion.
But Trump didn’t lose on the lockdowns. This was right at the beginning of the pandemic. Nobody knew truly what was going on. A great many of us. New masks didn’t work and it was stupid. I used to work in healthcare for 28 years. I never put a mask on unless I had to go to the hospital. I was followed around in Lowe’s by a woman who called me a murderer. I entered a store and I waved those mask people off. I called out the cross contamination of these masks. But remember Trump didn’t mandate the shot. He wouldn’t wear a mask either. He said he never wanted the shot to be mandated. It was Biden who came in and really locked us down and mandated the shot. He’s the one that said people shouldn’t be allowed to go to the grocery store, etc. unless we got the shot and wore the mask. He was the one that banned us from getting ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine at the time. Trump was the one that brought up how hydroxychloroquine was having good results over in Italy because he spoke to a doctor over there. He got shot down for every treatment that he said he was learning about and mocked for it. He truly wanted to learn about how to fight viruses because he’s not a doctor. He really wanted to help us and thought these shots would be great because that’s what he was spoonfed. He got duped. He had to trust Fauci and doctor Birx because they had been in their positions for so long. He said he didn’t like Fauci, but he was stuck with them or so he thought. I’m sure there’s a lot of things he would’ve done differently now that he knows better. The one thing I wish is that he would come out and say how dangerous these shots are now that they really weren’t all that. I wish she would say that he got duped. On the Ivermectin subject, I’m from Michigan and we can’t get Ivermectin. Walgreens and CVS etc. are not allowed to fill prescriptions for ivermectin unless it was for pinworms or something. The pharmacist trumped the doctors every time on that issue. I had to go through a concierge doctor and have the ivermectin made for my husband and kids who got Covid early on at the one and only compound pharmacy we have. They were allowed to make it because they were a compound pharmacy. my best friend died in the hospital at 49 years old because she was denied those medication‘s. They put her on a ventilator. That’s a story to tell in an of itself also. I’d love to share it with you if you’re willing to listen. Anyway, she wouldn’t take the ivermectin as an outpatient because she was on the fence about whether it was a horse dewormer or not. I gave her so much information saying how safe that drug is, but she had a sister who is a pharmacy tech who is telling her it was horse dewormer, so she was terrified to take it. When she went in the hospital, I told her, now someone needs to sneak it into you and she wouldn’t do it. They stuck her in a room and forgot about her. Took her vitamin D away. All her supplements she took they wouldn’t allow her to take. How she got on the ventilator is just negligence. She didn’t need to go on a ventilator. She was unvaccinated also. She refused to take the shot. Her whole family took it though behind her back and she was so upset. She was talking with just a little shortness of breath but her oxygen level was at 75. Her husband said that these doctors offered her the ventilator one time and they said if she didn’t take the offer then they would put her in the step down room and make her comfortable until she died. They discussed it and then decided to have her go on it. They wouldn’t even let her call her children before they put her on the ventilator. She died three days later. They told her husband that if she were to survive now then she would be on oxygen for the rest of her life and have a poor quality of life. So they decided to take her off the ventilator. Her lungs couldn’t Handle getting off the ventilator. I’m convinced that they messed her lungs up. I was beside myself. I tried so hard to get her family to listen to me to have my friend listen to me prior to her going into the hospital. I gave her family the FLCC protocol sheets, and I even wrote at the top do not let them put her on a ventilator. I told her family they’re killing people in the hospital, but that’s what ended up happening. I lost my best friend in January 2021. She had asthma and struggled with it over the summer of 2020, then she got pneumonia, which I think was improperly treated along with her asthma. I begged her to see a pulmonologist (I thought she was on the wrong antibiotic and they never did a sputum sample which is what I wanted her to have but her primary care doctor said she wasn’t allowed to order that test, which I think is ridiculous ) and it wasn’t until she got very sick towards the end that her primary care doctor referred her to a pulmonologist. Her appointment was in February and she died in January. After her pneumonia, her husband comes home bringing Covid. At his work they were all masked up and he even took the shot and brings Covid home to her. So with her asthma, pneumonia, and now Covid it was a downward spiral from there. She couldn’t even try Ivermectin in the hospital. I wish she would’ve taken it as an outpatient. I brought her the whole gamut of Covid treatment that was on the FLCC protocol list that I could get her like the melatonin, Pepcid, etc. I was telling her to tell the doctors what medication’s she wanted like the budesonide inhaler and other things but she is not one to question the doctors nor is her family. I begged her to let me be her advocate, but she said she’d be fine. Now she’s with Jesus, which is a better place to be then here on this earth. Anyway, sorry I went off on a different direction but I blame Biden for the direction her care went because Trump was all for the right to try when it came to medication‘s. The Biden administration ended that.
Wow...what a heartbreaking nightmare!! And your story is actually very commonplace, experienced by so many people. And know that the push for ventilators was directly correlated to the additional payments hospitals received for every ventilated patient, hence the murderous Fauci scheme of the protocol directing hospitals to not admit patients until they couldn't breathe...then off they go to the ventilator and/or remdesivir, AKA 'run-death-is-near'. That man is a modern Mengele and I hope to see him get his just reward. Not just for the ventilators and remdesivir, but also for the deliberate, malicious war on life-saving, cheap HCQ and ivermectin. I bought mine direct from India, since no doctors would prescribe it, and no pharmacies around here would even carry it. Fauci and comrades pressured the American manufacturers and contributors to hold back shipments to pharmacies, to create an artificial shortage.
Thank God our compounding pharmacy could make it and distribute it. I fought for it and the right to try in my state. I even spoke before or state health and human resource committee meeting when they were voting on vaccine passports. Omg the stupidity of the democrats who were on that committee🤦🏼♀️. I spoke on everything I could in my 3 minutes.
I can easily imagine the stupidity of the democrats on that committee. Thank you being willing to advocate!
Oh I am! The problem is we have to constantly check the docket to see what they are voting on. I belong to a legal group that monitors that but often times when they say to get to the capitol it’s such short notice. I live a little over an hour away. I always sign up to give comments and if I can’t be there in person I do fill out a notecard. They have to read every single note card too. So you need to be vigilant. People get tired of the fight. The democrats are betting on that too. They want you to start to not care.
Why are you not correlating the lockdown-mandated mail-in ballots to the resultant fraud? The mail-in ballots WERE THE ENGINE for the fraud.
yes
My daughter got 4 mail in ballot applications, 3 were pre-filled out for her!!
But...but...election fraud is CoNsPiRaCy tHeOry!!!, said in my best whine, lol.
Paul, I understand your point, they used the plandemic and lockdowns as a way to cheat. And too many state and local officials went along with it and did not abide by election laws already in place.
I just left a comment above.
I never read anything about this happening.
Half a billion dollars from Zuckerberg for fraud-ridden, unsecured drop boxes, too...
Pennsylvania cheated.
many cheated...but the lockdowns hurt him and with the cheat, his win was not convincing...he won yes, but not by the amount that the cheat could have easily erased...the lockdowns hurt him...polling inside told us this. thats all I can say...and he did win, dont mistake what I am saying but not by what he should have to avoid any tampering...his win was weak because of the lockdowns and that gave them the ability to erase that with ease.
If the real vote totals for Trump were given, and the illegal "ballot" votes for Biden removed, Trump had millions more actual votes from real people than Biden.
Many many votes were removed from Trump's total by machine manipulation.
The American people were disenfranchised big time.
Michigan is just now doing an investigation on the voter rolls. More votes than people in many cities. They tried to get the voter rolls cleared before the election but Jocelyn Benson said no. Trump won Michigan. The governor race was fishy too. Garrett Soldano should’ve been the GOP candidate. Tudor Dixon came out of the blue where Garrett was leading by a long shot and was GIVEN the GOP nomination. Very odd
Trump did not mandate the lockdowns. Those were the actions of individual states.
True. I did not encounter anyone at the time - or since - who blamed lockdowns on Trump.
Our Republican governor managed covid lockdown polcy and bore the brunt of criticism and/or support.
Our Democrat governor did that, too. Even took over the emergency broadcast system at Thanksgiving to tell us to stay home. This is the same guy, who along with that THING that was state health Sec at the time and is now the US Deputy Health Sec, deliberately sent infected covid patients into the state's nursing homes, where they weren't even residents. Richard Levine, the man who pretends to be an exceptionally ugly woman, removed his mother from the nursing home where she lived and set her up in a hotel, before sending in the covid patients. At least 40% of PA's *covid deaths* were nursing home residents.
Fascinating the way Democrats promote and reward the worst among themselves.
That’s right! In Michigan, Whitmer extended them over and over again AND mandated masks. Couldn’t go to your cottage (however people from Illinois could go to their cottage in Michigan) or be on a boat with a motor. She mandated all DIY and plant product shelves be taped off so we couldn’t buy plants or begin a project at home. She was the one that said only so many people could be in bars and restaurants. She’s the one that closed mom and pop stores but allowed big box stores to be open. Health food stores had to be closed yet liquor and canibus stores could be open. She closed the beaches, parks and churches. WHITMER wouldn’t allow people to be with their dying loved one due to Covid restrictions in the hospital. NONE of these actions were from Trump. Not one!!!
Ditto here in PA, the same smugly draconian *mitigations*. Although I do believe Whitmer was the most incredibly fascist, with her diktats about seeds and garden supplies.
Which of course is the case with all the so-called Coronavirus legislation, it was individuals and other levels of government that decided how heavy to go depending on how totalitarian they really were underneath.
It was all ultimately a ploy to expose the mini Hitlers and Stalins in our midst.
And boy did it expose them!
In the UK it was all guidance if people had bothered to check, common sense not withstanding.
https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/g-is-forguidance
The lockdowns went STATE BY STATE! Whitmer kept the lockdowns going dispute our constant protesting. Garrett Soldano (GOP GOVERNOR CANDIDATE) was responsible for getting kids back to school and sports and also unmasking the kids
Trump most certainly did NOT lose the 2020 election, Paul, and I am not even a Trump worshipper. I have been studying rigged elections for 23 years. I watched almost every state hearing about the 2020 election fraud. There was mountains of evidence but courts and state legislatures are owned just like everything else. Trump still won more counties by far than Biden, or Obama before him, yet somehow still “lost.” That’s where covid comes in. Covid didn’t defeat Trump. Lockdowns didn’t defeat him. Covid allowed for mail in voting. THAT, combined with multiple other illegal tactics, cost Trump the win. Mail in ballots and easily rigged voting machines!
what happen if I told you internal polls and feedback form voters told us they were dismayed by the lockdowns...you think the lockdown lunacy did not hurt him?
I’m sure it did hurt him, absolutely. What hurt more, though, was allowing them to set up mail in ballots because of the fake pandemic and then finish the steal with the easily rigged voting machines. He got played like maybe no other president in history. How and why is what I want to know. How did they trick the most powerful man in the world, who didn’t have to listen to any of them, to rubber-stamp a fake pandemic and a deadly bioweapon that has now killed or maimed billions?
I suspect that video you shared of his press conference encouraging lockdowns holds a clue. They’re all standing up there giddy as school kids. Trump even gives a little wink and sly smile to somebody in the press. He looks more interested in the proceedings like they’re one of his game shows not to be taken too seriously. Like they used his ego against him. I don’t know but I DO know if you or I were in that position we damn well would’ve done our research instead of trusting lifetime swamp bureaucrats before closing down the country! I am just a carpenter and I knew by March 2020 it was all bullshit!! How the holy f*ck did Trump not know, Paul? I’m sorry but I don’t care if he was wrong or duped. You and I would have told the truth and sacrificed the presidency if we had to…even if the whole country laughed at us. Because we were right! But not Trump. He failed when the biggest crime in human history could have been stopped. He could have looked in the camera and told the American people the truth. I drove 8 hours to DC to support him and I would have done it to back him up calling out the fake pandemic!
And he’s still bragging about the jabs. And he still signed EO 13887 the day after the WHO asked for it. He still took a million from Pfizer and gave RFK Jr the boot. He still picked a “vaccine” that was already made before the fake pandemic (as admitted live on air by Pete Navarro while guest hosting Bannon’s Warroom in early 2022).
All that being said I STILL want Trump back in the White House. I want to see if he’ll go scorched earth on the bastards who rigged the 2020 election and started a fake pandemic, he won’t start more wars, and he’ll fix illegal immigration.
Trump DIDNT lock us down. In Michigan WHITMER locked us down and kept us locked down. It went state by state. Whitmer kept extending the lockdown to get more Covid emergency money. That’s not Trump! Remember it was only supposed to be 2 weeks. We were ok with two weeks but then we started learning the truth during that time. Garrett Soldano who was the leading GOO governor candidate went on Facebook and said something is fishy. He’s a chiropractor and wholistic health expert and he got locked out of social media by saying take your vitamin D because they were finding people low in vitamin D were the sickest. He made one post about it and called out other issues like masks don’t work. He went to 400,000 plus followers in one day from that post. Facebook shut him down. But we all found Garrett’s new account , that got shut down too so then he used his wife’s Facebook account.
Perfectly said. I just wasted my time trying to make the same point above, but you said it more succinctly.
No, you made great points as well. I might not even have commented if I had read yours and some other comments first. You were spot on. Well done.
I AM SORRY, the clarity I cannot write here. I tried to help you get there. I can understand what you are saying for I was part of that too, even asked to partake in the recount efforts etc. again, its all I can say. I support him as much as you. but Trump Jan 2020 was not Trump July 2020...he was in trouble and his people said lockdowns...regardless of the stolen votes...read what I said again...he won, just not by enough. and you can quote what Denish and all the talking heads say...I was there. he won, but not by enough...no steal, he won, but had there been no lockdowns, the steal would have ailed...the lockdowns made the won surmountable. you have to stop thinking one way and think broadly.
In July 2020 Trump could not win.
Yes, he turned it around but the lockdowns took him from unstoppable Jan 2020 to no win July 2020...and he turned it around by Oct 2020 but got over finish line first, YES...he won, but not by enough to spoil the steal. do not ask me how I knew in July 2020 he could not win.
and today he is the only one for the job...always was...to fix the greatest nation...but I talk facts...I have taken the emotion out of it. lockdowns hurt him bad and the vaccine and its effects WILL hurt him if he continues saying it worked.
I am very surprised to read what you are saying Paul. True the Vote is only one source where you will get the correct vote counts that proves that Trump won the election in 2020. Why else have they tried to persecute these people who came out with the truth? I will agree with you that Trump could have lost votes due to lock downs, etc., but the facts are that he won the 2020 election regardless of that! You say you have an open mind, well open it up to accept the fact that Trump DID WIN! Kids found hung in their bedrooms has nothing to do with Trump. It has to do with our sick education system and the filthy MSM that lie to us every single day.
I guess you did not read what I wrote.
Trump won by more in all the swing states in 2020 than in 2016. What math are you using? He got 12 million more votes than in 2016. The aggregate numbers are clear. Biden supporters were in itty bitty crop circles. Nobody was enthusiastic about Biden. All legit metrics show Trump won. Time to take the "L" on this one Dr. Paul.
Trump didn’t lock us down! It went state by state. I live in Michigan and whiter kept extending the lockdown. It was only supposed to be 2 weeks to stop the spread. We had the most ridiculous rules too. Like, couldn’t be in a boat with a motor yet her husband goes and puts their boat in the water and complains because there was no one able to put his dock in because Whitmer wouldn’t allow it. He even tried to pull the, I’m the governors husband, card.
Did he really lose the election? I'm not so sure:
https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2022/demo/p20-585.html
https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2022/demo/p20-585.pdf
Registered—Those who are in the CVAP and registered to vote by or on Election Day. Registered respondents may or may not have
voted. There were an estimated 168.3 million citizens of voting age who registered to vote in the 2020 election.
Registered nonvoters—Those who are in the CVAP and registered to vote but did not vote. An estimated 12.8 million citizens of
voting age were registered to vote in the 2020 election but did not vote.
SO THE CENSUS BUREAU CLAIMS THAT ONLY 12.8 MILLION REGISTERED VOTERS DID NOT VOTE IN THE 2020 ELECTION.
BUT THEN THEY CLAIM THAT VOTER TURNOUT WAS 66.8%...BUT WHAT IS 66.8% OF 168.3 MILLION REGISTERED VOTERS?
THAT MEANS ACCORDING TO THEIR NUMBERS ONLY ABOUT 112,000,000 VOTED IN THE 2020 ELECTION.
BIDEN ALLEGEDLY GOT 81.2 MILLION VOTES, TRUMP GOT 74.2 MILLION VOTES. THAT ADDS UP TO 155.4 MILLION VOTES.
WHERE DID THE EXTRA 33 MILLION VOTES COME FROM?
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2021/2020-presidential-election-voting-and-registration-tables-now-available.html
The 2020 presidential election had the highest voter turnout of the 21st century, with 66.8% of citizens 18 years and older voting in the election,
according to new voting and registration tables released today by the U.S. Census Bureau.
https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2020
In the 2020 elections, Joe Biden (D) won the presidential election. Biden received 306 electoral votes and Donald Trump (R) received 232 electoral
votes. In the national popular vote, Biden received 81.2 million votes and Trump received 74.2 million votes.
https://ballotpedia.org/Eligible_voter
An eligible voter is a person who meets the requirements set forth in a political subdivision for being able to vote. The rules differ from
state-to-state for what makes someone eligible to vote.
Considerations in assessing whether a person is eligible to vote may include:
Age
Length of residency
Ability to establish residency
Whether or not the person is a convicted felon
A person may meet the eligibility requirements for voting, but may not have registered. In that case, although a registrar would accept the person's
application for voter registration because the person meets all the requirements of that political subdivision, it might be said of this person,
"She is eligible to vote, but is not a registered voter."
In many--but not all--states, in order for a person's signature to count on a petition for a candidate or a ballot measure, the person must be not
just eligible to vote, but also registered to vote.
https://ballotpedia.org/Voter_registration
registration is the process that allows citizens to register with election officials in order to become eligible to vote. In 49 states, voters are
required to register to vote. North Dakota is the only state that does not require voters to register. Voter registration methods vary by state and
can include the following: in-person registration at state government agency offices, online registration, registering by mail, and registering
through voter registration drives sponsored by non-government entities.
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2022/03/30/2022-06654/estimates-of-the-voting-age-population-for-2021
Population 18 years or older United States - 258,327,312
Please step back and read and re-read what I am saying...I said he won but not by enough so that the steal was easy, had he won by lots had there been no lockdowns, they could not steal...both sides steal...wake up...but the lockdowns hurt him enough that placed the steal in reach...in Jan 2020 he was unstoppable...polls showed us...July 2020 he was DOA...could not win...the election begin end July 2020 to Nov 3rd...and 45 did the magic we thought, we erased deficits and went ahead...but not by enough to avoid the steal...
Paul, you have to stop saying Trump lost. He won, and we all know it. When someone cheats in a board game, or a card game, or an Olympic contest to "win", they did NOT win, they cheated, and are disqualified.
The election system is the problem. The voter rolls in many states are padded with tens of thousands of names that should have been scrubbed for one reason or another, and the criminals running the elections USE these "names" to cast "votes" for them.
In addition, the MACHINES are connected to the internet, intentionally, and are used to manipulate vote totals and manipulate outcomes.
IT'S THE SYSTEM THAT IS THE PROBLEM. Sure, they used the covid hoax so they could drop in MILLIONS of illegal ballots from non existent people in swing states. But it's the election system that needs to be fixed. Only brain-dead dolts actually believe Biden got 81 million real, lawful votes from real people. It only takes a few thousand pristine pre-printed ballots trucked in and inserted into the count to steal an election.
We MUST have ONE DAY VOTING, NO mail in ballots, except for the "absentee ballots" that some real people need to use, but they must be validated by signature. And NO MACHINE VOTING OR COUNTING. PAPER BALLOTS and votes counted BY HAND at the local precinct level. The totals will be known by midnight, no more cheating.
Trump DID win, the Dems cheated, and the UniParty RINO's helped them in swing states like GA, MI, WI, AZ. This is what happened, the lawless people cheated, and cheating gets you disqualified and sent to prison.
Hysterical proclamations don’t make it so. Where are the receipts that conclusively demonstrate that Donald Trump lost the 2020 election. I don’t believe it. I have seen too much evidence to the contrary over the last 3+years. If I’ve seen it, I’m sure Trump has seen volumes more. On the other hand, I don’t think President Trump is the right presidential candidate for now and for the future for several reasons which I have enumerated previously. Most importantly, he was NOT able to control the swamp during his first presidency and I don’t think he can comprehensively do it now. That said…. almost anyone is better than Joe Biden. I will somewhat reluctantly vote for Donald Trump and hope for the best.
this is a sore topic for many, me too..I wanted him in WH...but he is not...and the lockdowns hurt him. they will again if he continues praising them and the vaccines. the deaths now have accumulated...be careful, the deaths did not yet accumulate from vaccine...now people are angry. lockdowns hurt him before, now lockdowns and vaccines...my mail is a clarion call.
do you wish to chance it, with so many hurt from the vaccines he brought under OWS? should he say the vaccine is the greatest since slice bread?
Trump should just say nothing unprompted in this area. And when asked about any of it, shift to explaining what he will do to hold the liars to account. When he gets the inevitable pushback from lefty media trying to get a 'Stephanopolus/Romney" moment, he hammers back harder with removing liability protection, etc. Everytime they pushback, he then goes further in highlighting the malfeasance by a Fauci or anyone else who operated under the Biden admin. He has to do that consistently so no sound bites. The Left media will stop asking for the most part then because Trump will be hurting the Left position. Trumps opportunity to disavow OWS wholesale ended at the end of 2021. No need for him to now give the Left a hammer to smash him with. We have to be wise as serpents now. Not emotive as infants.
The surprising thing here is that you won't hear someone who knows tell what the Trump vaccine for OWS was and why he had to do OWS. His vaccine was NOT mRNA, it was hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and zinc and it did save many lives.
If you will listen to this, you will know.
https://m.beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2024/03/live-new-michael-jaco-the-real-reason-trump-pushed-the-vacs-was-to-save-america-and-the-world-2550566.html
Donald Trump certainly exposed the swamp. He opened up a huge can of worms and therefore opened a lot of eyes of Americans.
I don’t believe that Trump lost, the hard data suggests that the election was stolen by means of interference with the voting software and massive ballot harvesting including fake ballots without the proper watermark. There was a setup that included using the FBI to run cover for the laptop, the release and timing of the plandemic, fake PCR data and the J6 setup. Desperate people do desperate things. America is awake now and we may have lost 4 years progress and suffered an invasion, but we will recover and MAGA.
yes, I said that, votes were messed with...but there is another aspect you refuse to consider...I can speak and cannot say more...just that the lockdowns hurt him badly. and this is why we want him to speak out about it now...it will hurt him again. do not think Biden et al. is a walk over.
Biden won't be on the ballot in November. I and others have been saying Trump can't win in November because in the SWING states, there has been no real voting integrity reform. PA has gotten worse. (And for all those who cheered DeSantis re-election in Florida, note that Trump gained a greater % of new votes in 2020 in PA than DeSantis did in his re-election in Florida.) I don't entertain "both sides do something" argument if there is no data that can weigh the amount done. Media does it all the time by showing a normal person and a deranged person on an issue, where they frame it as too equally-weighted position. Think of the gender pervs out there, where a news segment shows them, and then a normal mom. They frame to give the impression that there is 50% of people on both sides, which sane people know is not the case. Well, that is the case with "Republicans cheat too." Duh. Of course some do, but the weighting is not even near close to what the Dems do, so bringing that up just gives the Dems what they want, the opportunity for aircover on the cheating issue. I'm in the data industry for decades. I know IT systems, databases, etc. The evidence has passed the sniff test years ago on the amount of cheating and how that is what installed Biden in the White House. To not understand that at this point, and go down the path you continue to, just feeds into the Dems ultimate goals.
I agree with you, Biden will not be the Democrat candidate. They are going to pull him and put someone like Whitmer or Newsom in. Maybe even Michelle Obama. Heck maybe Taylor Swift! Lol!
Dr Paul is technically correct in his analysis and I know that he's holding a few things back for good and proper reasons. However, there are filings this week in more than one court that contain information so explosive that the entire narrative of American elections will be turned on it's head. What I mean is, this particular conversation is premature by a few weeks. It's almost certain that Trump has said things about the shots and continues to appear to support them, that he will not be saying for much longer. To borrow an analogy; It's near the completion of WWII and you're listening to the leader in occupied France promise you the world. However, four feet from this leader stands one of Hitler's finest, fully armed. How much stock do you put in the leaders words? I assume most people realize by now that we are dealing with Psychopaths and assassins!! They are seriously sick. They have already murdered millions more than Hitler for Christs sake! Trump only lost the election because of the SELECTION and people are about to find out that it was partially by an act of war via treason inside the Beltway AND OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY! Huge changes are right around the corner.
as I said above, he won...but the response hurt him and placed the steal in reach...his margin of won was too small though he is the legitimate POTUS
and thank you Clive for this insightful sharing
Huge changes, I hope those changes are we go back to paper ballots and voting only on election day. It worked before. Remember when you found out who your president was later that night after 8 PM?
No, Trump won the 2020 election, and he won it by large measures. Acquiring 12,000,000 more votes than in 2016. More votes than 0bama in either of his *elections*. Capturing all but one bellwether county, while Biden LOST all but one. You can not seriously entertain the idea that Biden---legendarily corrupt dimwitted, racist, media-outed pathological liar and plagiarist---massively outperformed even 0bama, and Trump. It didn't happen. Anecdotally, I was one of the GOP observers in Philadelphia. Trump was ahead by 800,000 votes, with over half the votes in, when---for the first time in our nation's history,---PA and a half dozen other key states shut down the counting, in choreographed uniformity. Magically, in each, when the unprecedented closures reopened, Biden was ahead in all. In PA, the state is red, outside of Philly, Pittsburgh and a couple of much smaller cities, yet Biden impossibly surpassed Trump's winning lead, and then some. As an observer, I can testify that we were barred from re-entering the counting center. BARRED, in blatant defiance of the law, and embellished by covering the windows, doors so that we could not even *observe* from the outside until after many court orders, we were finally admitted, after the cheat was done. Let me emphasize that word...CHEAT. Then, once admitted, we were barred from actually observing at a distance that would permit seeing the ballots, with the Dems arguing that *covid mitigation* demanded that GOP observers not be near those doing the counting, AKK 'cheating', in defiance of election law requiring observers be close enough to view and read the ballots. PA's hard left Supreme Court quite literally and illegally legislated its own laws in ruling that observers could only observe from 20 feet. Covid mitigation, as you know, required only a 6 foot buffer.
They cheated their lying asses off, and you should shed any dangerous delusion that this was in any way, shape, or form a free, fair, and legitimate election. I will also add that cheating and election fraud has long been an acknowledged reality in Philly, and common sense would dictate that this extrapolates to other blue cities. Let me remind you that in 2012, again as a poll observer, the GOP reps were ejected and barred from many of the city's precincts. It took an emergency court injunction to force the Dems to admit GOP observers, costing hours of oversight, in a city that had over 4 dozen precincts tabulate ~110% voter turnout...for 0bama, of course.
I was a poll watcher. In my district Hispanics came in huge numbers by bus loads with someone assisting them. They showed a passport for their ID. You could clearly see they had no idea what they were doing. They were led step by step. THEN, when they went in the voting booth they had a DEMOCRAT interpreter helping with their ballot but they are supposed to have a republican as well. I can say we need more GOP interpreters to volunteer on voting day. I complained to the election inspector about the voter only having a one party interpreter and she was mad I brought this up. I called the GOP hotline to report what was going on and they did come over. There was nothing they could do because there was only Democrat interpreters. I couldn’t challenge these voters either because it’s illegal to challenge based on someone’s race and inability to speak English.
Republicans need to step up and take a volunteer position like mine or take a paying position at the polling stations and counting stations otherwise democrats will always run our elections.
Also, run as a GOP delegate for your area. There are THOUSANDS of open GOP delegate positions in each state that NEVER get filled. You don’t need to do campaigning for yourself if you don’t want to. You just sign up to put your name on the ballot. If you’re the only one there you win by default. Democrats don’t bother running for delegates because their party is run by the higher-ups and it’s dictated what their candidates will do. A delegate is powerless in the Democrat party.
Oh, it's a war. And in Dem-controlled cities like Philly---85+% of the electorate is registered 'D', it's almost futile. 70 years of this. GOP routinely has to seek emergency injunctions to get the observers into the polls and tabulating areas, because the Dems brazenly flip the middle finger to the laws. Filing complaints with election oversight agencies, Committee of Seventy, et al, only results in boilerplate tepid, *we'll try to not let it happen next time*. Me: uh-huh, but what are your plans to address the CURRENT abuses and lawbreaking? ...Always silence in response.
WTF UP! https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/new-rnc-sues-dirty-mi-sos-jocelyn-benson/
Trump lost because the election was stolen. And he will lose again unless he makes a deal with evil.
not entirely and people even his supporters are guilty of cognitive dissonance...only believing what they want to believe
We believe what we observe. I observed, physically, in 2020, and there was nothing of cognitive dissonance in the smugly open fraud, disregard for election law, and state Supreme Courts actively and illegally legislating their opinion into law, while overriding the still red PA legislature's laws. Courts can not make or alter law. They did, and of course, since the courts are corrupted and controlled by the left, there is no one to enforce the law. Per Philly, the city Sheriff refused to enforce a court order that permitted GOP observers to be allowed entry to the Convention Center ( where the votes were counted).
again I agree...read what I wrote...but we have to have balance...there are millions now with vaccine injuries who will have issues Nov 2024 at the polls...they were hurt and do not need 45 to praise the vaccine...it was an unfortunate unforced error
I did read. And I disagree with your reasoning and explained why. Trump did not concoct that vaccine and the blame needs to be squarely on those who did and aggressively, even forcibly, pushed it. It will be a HUGE misstep to accuse those malfeasants, WITHOUT the incontrovertible proof in hand. he MUST have that in hand, BEFORE he makes any statement. Even with proof, you have witnessed how our state media pressitutes flagrantly lie about demonstrably provable truths. Do not give them the added ammunition via demanding an *apology*, which we know will be refuted by them, no matter how egregiously they spin and lie. There's your balance. Let's get him into office first, and he will get there without that apology, because we have other imminently existential worries right now, like a WW3, and the impoverishment of our citizens, as just a shortlist.
Nothing is set in stone. I am just stating some plausible outcomes. Cognitive dissonance is one of the reasons why we are in this mess.
yes...
There is another way for Trump to win, but every American needs to look in the mirror for that...
I should also add, (mentioned below), the swing states all violated the Constitution. They illegally changed their election laws contrary to the Constitution. The Supreme Court FAILED to uphold the Constitution with the Texas lawsuit. For some strange reason, the Court said, "No Standing" A ridiculous decision since all of the 12 states in the lawsuit, as well as each and every American was affected by the election and ALL had standing. The proper remedy, would have been the Court ordered all new elections in the swing states, performed according to Constitutional requirements. The entire purpose of the Supreme Court is to uphold the Constitution, why even have a SUPREME COURT IF THEY REFUSE TO DO THEIR JOB? We've wondered if the justices were threatened, or their families threatened or targeted, it's possible.
I’m sure they were threatened. Nobody wants to see cities burned either. There’s a cost to telling the truth but you need to be brave enough to tell the truth despite the consequences.. Brace yourself for what the truth brings. The deep state is dangerous.
Has to be a reason they refused to do their job and uphold the Constitution. They all swore on the Bible to do so.
Unfortunately, swearing on the Bible does not have the same meaning to most politicians and many judicial activists that it does to someone like me or you.
They should be stuck by lightning when they refute their oath
The cheating the Dems did was massive. 2000 Mules. $400 million Zuckerbucks. Drop and roll, Trump was ahead in the swing states then the voting stopped simultaneously in each of those states, then when the voting resumed, Biden was now miraculously ahead, and they kept Biden ahead. See "Let My People Go" for more cheating. Books written about the cheating, Rigged, The Parallel Election, many more. Wisconsin, they went into the nursing homes and filled out the ballots for Biden for vegetative people. I could fill pages with all the cheating