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Stephanie S's avatar

And Al Jazeera media as well?! Face it, no one has the monopoly on truth but God.

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JP Spatzier's avatar

Maybe you should read interviews with survivors from that day who are now suing IDF for killing their OWN that day .. it’s called the Hannibal Directive..

This is being covered more openly in Israel than in America..

How BAD did everyone LIE during

Covid ...

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Gary’S's avatar

Excellent points.

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Gary’S's avatar

If I was forced to choose between the reporting of Al Jazeera and the reporting of the Israeli state media, I’d choose Al Jazeera. I’m notifying you of my bias up front. Considering the ancestral lands of the Palestinians — who are Semites by the way — stolen by the state of Israel versus land & property owned by Jewish people that was stolen by Palestinians, there’s no comparison as to who is the greater thief. As to Palestinians murdered by the state of Israel and the state’s accomplices versus Jewish people murdered by Palestinians and Hamas militants, again, there’s no doubt as to which group is being murdered in the higher numbers.

Maybe theft and murder don’t really matter to you, when the context is which group you believe is in the good graces of GOD? I don’t know how you think.

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Stephanie S's avatar

At least you admit to not knowing how I think as opposed to making assumptions.

It doesn’t matter who I think is in the good graces of God. It matters who God is and the fact that He is sovereignly in control of everything and everyone. He uses wveb our misguided, sinful choices for His purposes. He also never changes so despite Israel’s continued disobedience throughout the Old Testament, He still faithfully kept covenant with them although they were seriously and rightfully disciplined. And maybe that is happening now, too.

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Gary’S's avatar

The holy scriptures tell us from Jesus’s own mouth — unless you reject what’s written; I don’t know how you think — that the Kingdom of GOD was taken from the Jewish people.

Parable of the Evil Farmers (Matthew 21)

33 “Now listen to another story. A certain landowner planted a vineyard, built a wall around it, dug a pit for pressing out the grape juice, and built a lookout tower. Then he leased the vineyard to tenant farmers and moved to another country. 34 At the time of the grape harvest, he sent his servants to collect his share of the crop. 35 But the farmers grabbed his servants, beat one, killed one, and stoned another. 36 So the landowner sent a larger group of his servants to collect for him, but the results were the same.

37 “Finally, the owner sent his son, thinking, ‘Surely they will respect my son.’

38 “But when the tenant farmers saw his son coming, they said to one another, ‘Here comes the heir to this estate. Come on, let’s kill him and get the estate for ourselves!’ 39 So they grabbed him, dragged him out of the vineyard, and murdered him.

40 “When the owner of the vineyard returns,” Jesus asked, “what do you think he will do to those farmers?”

41 The religious leaders replied, “He will put the wicked men to a horrible death and lease the vineyard to others who will give him his share of the crop after each harvest.”

42 Then Jesus asked them, “Didn’t you ever read this in the Scriptures?

‘The stone that the builders rejected

has now become the cornerstone.

This is the Lord’s doing,

and it is wonderful to see.’

43 I tell you, the Kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a nation that will produce the proper fruit. 44 Anyone who stumbles over that stone will be broken to pieces, and it will crush anyone it falls on.”

45 When the leading priests and Pharisees heard this parable, they realized he was telling the story against them— they were the wicked farmers. 46 They wanted to arrest him, but they were afraid of the crowds, who considered Jesus to be a prophet.

Jesus also made reference to the Jews who were of their father, the devil. And there are two references by Jesus about people who call themselves “Jews” but who lie because they are actually of the synagogue of Satan. I realize that these scriptures don’t condemn ALL Jewish people, but the Jewish people who still reject Jesus as their messiah are just as condemned as everyone else who rejects Christ. There’s nothing special about identifying as a Jew.

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Fizzygurl's avatar

We are learning more about Jews and fake Jews lately. “We are God’s chosen people” is going down in tatters.

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Gary’S's avatar

There are the parables of the wise and the foolish virgins & the wheat and the tares & the wheat and the chaff & the sheep and the goats. It seems that, when it comes down to the great division between the just and the unjust, there’s no group of people who are “chosen”. It’s an individual thing.

From the lips of the LORD in the flesh “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless anyone be born of water and of the Spirit, he is not able to enter into the kingdom of God. That having been born of the flesh is flesh, and that having been born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not wonder that I said to you, ‘It is necessary for you all to be born from above.’ The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but you do not know from where it comes and where it goes. Thus is everyone having been born of the Spirit.”

Have those who identify as “Jews” been born of the Spirit? If not….

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Stephanie S's avatar

There are Messianic Jews. Regardless, the land was given to Israel in the Old Testament. The problem came when the Israelites disobeyed God and did not utterly destroy the inhabitants. As a result, they continued to disobey God, by adopting their customs, intermarrying with them and worshipping their gods. But God still didn’t abandon them because He is a covenant keeping God. And still has not abandoned them any more than He abandons Christ followers when they fail to obey.

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Gary’S's avatar

Then why does GOD say that there are people who call themselves “Jews”, but they lie, because they are of the synagogue of Satan. Are you saying that people who are of the synagogue of Satan are still part of GOD’s covenant?!?! If so, that makes no sense.

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Stephanie S's avatar

Nope. I’m not saying that. What I will say is that God alone knows the hearts of men . It’s above our paygrade to decide who is and who isn’t going to heaven. Our purpose as long as we are on this earth is to proclaim the gospel and worship the Only Wise God. 1 Corinthians 4:5 tells us “ 5 Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of the heart. At that time each will receive their praise from God.”

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Gary’S's avatar

I’ll simply take the GOD of Israel at his word when he says that there are people who call themselves “Jews”, but they lie, because they are of the synagogue of Satan.

I’m reasonably sure that there are those who (strangely enough) call these words “antisemitic”.

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scsilvas's avatar

What verse is this stated and more importantly, what is the context?

Take the God of Israel at His Word but not selectively. ALL scripture is inspired by God. And reread 1 Corinthians 4:5.

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AwakeNotWoke's avatar

There have long been concerns about antisemitism in the New Testament. See, e.g., article at the link. Increasingly there are calls for the New Testament to be banned. The Torah is proposed by some as a better alternative. Although Judaism is not a proselytizing religion some former Christians have turned to Judaism.

The New Testament's Anti-Jewish Slander and the Conventions of Ancient Polemic

Luke T. Johnson, Journal of Biblical Literature

https://www.jstor.org/stable/3267112

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Stephanie S's avatar

Christianity is a personal relationship with the Lord , Jesus Christ. The so-called Christians that you claim have put themselves back under the law, which cannot and does not save., may never have truly belonged to Christ. The Bible teaches many things about the wheat and the tares, the seed that falls on good or bad soil, etc. But the one trith taught throughout the Bible, both old and New Testaments is that salvation is by faith alone ; even before Christ came to earth, the heros of faith from the Old Testament were those who believed God for the coming Messiah- not because they were “good” people. They knew they were sinners in need of a Savior..

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Gary’S's avatar

I have concerns about people who call themselves “Jews” being absolutely full of lawlessness, iniquity, transgressions of the law (contained in the Torah) and sin; but who seek to justify themselves by claiming “We are the children of Abraham and of Isaac and of Jacob” as if their patriarchal identity makes them the recipients of YHWH’s graciousness. And I’m even more concerned about the Gentiles who justify the actions of the modern state of Israel. It’s not “antisemitic” to observe and to make comments on one’s observations about the malignant wickedness of the people who call themselves “Jews” any more than it’s pro-semitic to observe and to make comments on one’s observations about the kindness and the compassion and the graciousness of people who call themselves “Jews”. There’s nothing special about identifying as a Jew. The bloodline of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob is thoroughly mixed into the entirety of the human race by now. Jews-as-a-distinct-race, who are specially favored by GOD, who gave the Law, is a falsehood, a lie. If it’s not, what’s the truth?

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Stephanie S's avatar

The kingdom of God refers to a spiritual kingdom- not the land belonging to Israel.

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Gary’S's avatar

That’s debatable. Aren’t the scriptures pretty clear that the Kingdom of GOD is to be established on this earth? That the New Jerusalem will descend from above to the earth?

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Stephanie S's avatar

The kingdom of God IS established on the earth through the proclamation of the gospel.

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Gary’S's avatar

True. And there’s very much more about the Kingdom of GOD and the Kingdom of Heaven which we’re totally ignorant of. “Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.” “Peace on earth, goodwill toward men.” “Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.”

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JP Spatzier's avatar

The gray zone.com

Glenn Greenwald on Rumble is excellent award winning journalist..

I don’t watch AlJazeers

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