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Lilly's avatar

Smarter than that? Why bc he had been POTUS before?He was in the know?

People died because of him? You are slightly confused. Trump didn't make SARS II and he didn't hand it off to Wuhun when Obama decided that these viruses were too dangerous to be on US soil. ๐Ÿ™„

He shut down travel from China . Got called a racist .

I think you are skipping the fact that this virus had gain of function, hell, the entire chymera is a gain of function.

For you to blame deaths on Trump signals that you really have no idea about the depth of this rabbit hole.

Storm coming, think Noah and the flood.

CAN YOU SWIM?

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Dr. Paul Alexander's avatar

nice post Lilly, keep at it

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SmileBeHappy's avatar

Yes, he tells us frequently how smart he is. I agree that he did a lot of good things. He hired some pretty terrible people that steered him wrong on purpose. I can get past that if he will do better next time. I suspect that he will trust fewer people next time. I know very well how deep the rabbit hole goes. I donโ€™t think Trump knew when he was president but I think he does now. We are in for a hard shaking whether he wins or not. Iโ€™ve read the book and my side wins.

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Dr. Paul Alexander's avatar

thank you for this insightful sharing

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Lilly's avatar

@Smile,

Nobody asked my opinion on Trump. He is like a petulant child sometimes. Of course I see that. And you're right, he hired crappy people. The way they turned on him. I think it was a set up to begin with.

I'm sorry that you lost family to the damn covid. I get so hyper thinking about the gd egos of these mofos. Please overlook my cussing. I'm not stopping anytime soon.

I'm of the opinion since last year that we aren't having an election. ๐Ÿคท I think somehow they try to put Johnson in the POTUS chair. Idk what going to happen to Kamela.

The say he became Speaker of the House, 2nd thing out of his mouth was a damn lie. Some ppl would argue with me that it was nothing. When he told Kevin what a good job he had done and he was sure Congress would agree and thanked him. NO. Should have kept that speech to the truth. It has stuck with me ever since. Glib liar. Then he took a knee w supposed other christians inside there. Lawds a mercy. So fast forward he is against Ukraine funding, no no no. Goes behind a closed door, comes out and Jehosophat , he said he got the message. Meanwhile Massey was there too, what message ?

Then he votes yes for Ukraine.

I think the DEVIL offered him power and fame, and money. Power , perhaps as the next POTUS.

WHAT do you think?

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SmileBeHappy's avatar

I think youโ€™re right. There are so few people in charge that we can trust. Iโ€™ve got my doubts about an election happening in November too. Another โ€œpandemicโ€, a new war, whatever they need to do, no matter the cost. They will do it.

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Roger Mall's avatar

Smarter than what? Part of Trumps problem is he pretends to be smarter than everybody, indeed the world's greatest CEO. I have personally attended five Trump rallies, three post 2020 and each of the latter he told us how wonderful project Warped Speed was "everybody said it couldn't be done". We would have been better off if only "everybody" had carried the day.

I am buoyed by the patriotism at his rallies but embarrassed by the ~~ he can do no wrong ~~ demeanor of people who should know better. There are better leader choices, less encumbered, every bit as successful and dedicated to MAGA.

As to Trump's performance and COVID, a good CEO has his radar up about his key project subordinates, whether he picked them or not. At a glance at their backgrounds and record he sees their connections, their proclivities and gives them only appropriate amount of rope or parameters and realizes the need to keep a bridle on their egos and has adequate circumspection about his own.

Not being a specialized expert a great CEO will seek to be grounded at least in relevant history about the type of disease and public health measures. And please not the kind of "deep read" that suggests to him that negotiation and compromise were never tried pre-Civil War suggesting to Trump that possibly had he been around he could have prevented war. But the latter is the type of CEO we are dealing with with Trump such that his own ego clouds depth, analysis, promises and decisions. Of course insentient but instinctively evil tools like Biden are lightyears worse.

A good CEO as regards monumental health ventures aggressively solicits alternative views, including those who counsel don't do this or that, also those that counsel

pretty much let the situation take its course. In the exigent case of COVID inform him that his mRNA "solution" is not a vaccine, it is a gene treatment, it is untested at scale or length on humans, fraught with unknowns, and that the history of medicine is replete with iatrogenic "cures". The same goes for Trumps push for ventilators. Did anyone advise him of the implications of their use (by the way where are all those torture devises now, waiting to be drug out?)?

This is not about whether you or I would have been absolutely overwhelmed and steamrolled on this matter even as President with three years under our belt. This is about the guy who is the greatest CEO ever or something, the greatest personnel judge ever who came to office with incredible insight into job applicants, whose instincts are perfect, unassailable, a quick study on all things important and never distracted.

An interesting question arises -- who should we appreciate more, the guy who says I was misinformed but as a mature CEO I should not have been so credulous, my subordinates were not well directed or appropriately limited but heck we were all in a panic politically and otherwise but forgive me and never again OR the guy who doubles down repeatedly saying project Warped Speed was a stupendous achievement on his part but darned if other people didn't kill the economy. The latter guy serving up a self-serving containment of the truth because in reality he initiated the two weeks shut down which was essentially used as the model for longer, extending throughout his term creating a malaise that enabled his electoral defeat whether or not the result of extensive cheating (there was a lot of cheating).

Undeniably Trump spread the propaganda to get the jab. Even if his approach was voluntarily he helped put people in a panic about the disease and his administrations promotion has all the innocence of a pusher who tells you it is all about feeling good now, its all safe, "science" is behind it and heck good people take it . . . you don't have to take it, I won't break your arm if you do not but if you don't you will get sick and die or something. And all those immersed in government knows best, along with the true believers in Trump jump on the Trump driven train to long term iatrogenic hell.

And never mind that Trump criticized a governor or two for opening their states too early even if he deigned to allow them to do so.

Now in spite of all of Trump's responsibility for setting the stage and though not the only actor, indeed later loosing the directorship and lead role, and while the play was still on a trajectory to a devastating run -- a Democrat in charge at the time seeing the opportunity would have immediately gone into hyper control mode and absolutely we would be even worse off. The iatrogenic deaths more numerous, the social sequelae compounded, the economy crushed and reset in total subservience to the state.

Only right seeing Republican governors, all with longer MAGA credentials than Trump by the way, saved the country with their resistance. The marginal strength of the Republicans in the Congress perhaps gave some pause to some Democrat dreams but certainly the Biden administration have done their damnedest.

Trump's shortcomings ought not be dismissed in the matter of COVID. His braggadocio about his role only compounds the glair from his errors however forgivable as to his humanness, in context and comparability to others.

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SmileBeHappy's avatar

Iโ€™m in complete agree with you on this!!

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