"Let the long contention cease, geese are swans and swans are geese. Creep into thy narrow bed, creep and let no more be said."
This whole topic has created in many emotionally and certainly subjective reactions. But not in me. Well, if you believe that have I a bridge to sell you!
So what is Truth? Why have I not in all my life not found/…
"Let the long contention cease, geese are swans and swans are geese. Creep into thy narrow bed, creep and let no more be said."
This whole topic has created in many emotionally and certainly subjective reactions. But not in me. Well, if you believe that have I a bridge to sell you!
So what is Truth? Why have I not in all my life not found/discovered/noted any viable proof of your claims? Huh?
Is history not Truth? Is WW1 and WW2 not Truth? Was the persecution of the Jews not an atrocity? Can you produce evidence to the contrary of my presuppositions? For example, if you claim censorship on behalf of and favorable to Jewish interests, why have I in all my travels, searches. studies, etc NOT come across stated and verifiable proof of your assertions? What is your authority? Your documentation? Your verification? Your historical accounts?
I can take my Book and find but one instance of Jewish culpability but specifically of the religious leaders of that day who were responsible for the crucifixion of Jesus Christ but the authority of the day that carried it out was the Romans. Their eventual punishment was the destruction of their civilization from the inside.
I also contend the current destruction of all western nations today is a reality because of their embrace of the stench/ horrible smell in the nostrils of God.
Carrying that to the present, I note that many nations in the European sphere historically cast out Jewish people. So is that not considered persecution? Nor the historic mistreatment of Jews down through time?
Going back to the scriptures, the condemnation by Jesus the Glorified Christ, in His judgment and condemnation of the seven churches of Asia, representing the current religions of the day, found only ONE religion that He gave a mere pass. The rest He judged as failures.
So what were the beginnings of Islam? Do you consider that Islam existed then as one of the "churches of Asia" He condemned? If He did not, and it existed, then why would He countenance in the doing a complete silent repudiation of His Christianity, works, example, teachings and reality? Islam claims their example to be Mohammed. I claim mine to be Jesus and that I believe will cost me my head down the line that I will gladly offer.
I pose that the only religion, the One He gave a pass to was Christianity, that exists fully teaching the reality of "love thine enemy" when in fact Islam countenances the murder, enslavement and torture of ALL OTHER RELIGIONS. You claim the Jewish religion also does. I find that hard to believe. But I have never delved deeply into things. You are not the first to question my thoughts and opinions. But your demeanor coaxes questions and your questions coax questions in me.
There has been and is a solid setting for the ONLY religion that preaches a tolerant attitude but not agreement of any and all other belief CYSTems I also condemn with the caveat that comes from Him, that He gives us a free moral right to choose or reject Him, curse Him, and even condemn Him. Does there exist any other religion with those quantified qualifications? You know the answer. So you inferred the Jewish religion is corrupt? I note you did not defend Islam but tried to justify its serious excesses on the basis of its right to torture Israeli children.
My case is solidly built on history and accurate fact. You have triggered the full circle route wherein the justification and authentification of the Only True God ordained religion as being Christianity. Did Jesus mandate torture? Slavery? Genocide? Or any sins? No!!!! Does Islam? Yes? Does Judaism? According to you and others it does. Can I believe that? Hard to accept. For me. But I will find the Truth on the matter.
But I can and do accept Jesus alone as the Only Way to salvation. The Only True God and in that process, I condemn ALL other religions as apostate. Your premise tacitly states whether you like it or not that atrocities committed by the Jewish are real but also committed by Islam. Hard for me to accept without valid proof that the Jewish people are guilty of same. But my appetite has been whetted and I fully realize the answer to my question is not only in the Holy Bible BUT also in the temporal realm.
So this is my end game and I know one person and temporal authority I trust who will give me an audience and answer one question that will resolve it all in my mind.
The lineage of Jesus is in fact Jewish and scripturally proven. Yet why have the atrocities you and others claim caused by Jewish people not backed by strong evidence? But I have reached the point in my existence that few reach. Most blindly embrace any one of the many false religions of the day. I do not but I have studied many. And my studies/investigations are NOT COMPLETE on all matters.
I MUST ADD THERE IS ANOTHER AUTHORITY I MENTIONED making three sources of PROBABLE Truth in all this.
So I do not look on you as adversarial. In fact you are one who actually triggered my curiosity for Truth and if you care at all about Truth you might well be interested in my further investigations by my meeting with a trusted man from Israel, a man who is a strong proponent of the Jewish faith, and another who I trust implicitly as a tried and proven source of Truth. I know this because he has never hesitated to encourage me but also never hesitates/hesitated in offering correction and direction to me.
I absolutely know these all will not lie. Two of these are religious leaders, the other is schooled by his experiences and constant presence in Israel.
I will be pleased to offer the results of my observations for your perusal but I am sure I will find Truth in my queries. I do however say I will also meet with another perhaps today also well schooled in reality who happens to be married as a survivor of the Rwandan genocide that resulted in the murder of her husband. Both her and her present husband will have much to say on this.
It is not my will to accept the Jewish people are culpable. I really did not want to go down this road. HamASS started the most recent conflict.
But the people I will query and who will not hesitate on this score to tell me truthfully, I will accept. If I have been in error I can and will delineate that, without excuse.
But the bottom line here is that there is only One God, One alone who can offer redemption. In saying that I will and have aroused anger and hatred from most of the worldly population. But that was also foretold.
Life is exciting and all one has to do is search for, defend and embrace the Truth.
I have given you fair treatment but you have inadvertently given to me more so than anger, a desire to really get to the bottom of this. And I have the ability and the ones who will steer me straight. And I will. My first contact with two will happen right after I post this even at four thirty in the morn.
In my mind is the old song by Johnny Cash titled, "What Is Truth." It can be likened in its substance and priceless value to a beautiful woman, ever elusive but aware of her sublimity. It takes time, and effort, patience and persistence to court and capture the heart of such a woman, I categorically define as "real" women.
I say this knowing of the four I have and do trust as counsel, as being totally honest. The fourth 98% trustworthy. I also add to that something that will seem out of place that I said to a fine and highly intelligent medical professional in my client list for over three decades. I told her in one or our serious discussions, "There are worse things in life than dying." She agreed in a moment. And there are. One of those is living a life where one goes along to get along. Because of that most western nations are in decline. Few care to proclaim the Truth on any matter and Truth has been replaced by greed, selfishness, idolatry, and all that comes from the "love of money" which is the "root of all evil." It is true. All evil exists because of that including porn, (billions in profit yearly) abortion, sex trafficking, illicit drug dealing, scamdemics, etc.
In the USA, the bastion of freedom, I believe the Minutemen are turning in their graves, and I hold accountable apostate ministers few of which preach Truth. They knew and know it, but have become false, and apostate. Nuff said.
"Let the long contention cease, geese are swans and swans are geese. Creep into thy narrow bed, creep and let no more be said."
This whole topic has created in many emotionally and certainly subjective reactions. But not in me. Well, if you believe that have I a bridge to sell you!
So what is Truth? Why have I not in all my life not found/discovered/noted any viable proof of your claims? Huh?
Is history not Truth? Is WW1 and WW2 not Truth? Was the persecution of the Jews not an atrocity? Can you produce evidence to the contrary of my presuppositions? For example, if you claim censorship on behalf of and favorable to Jewish interests, why have I in all my travels, searches. studies, etc NOT come across stated and verifiable proof of your assertions? What is your authority? Your documentation? Your verification? Your historical accounts?
I can take my Book and find but one instance of Jewish culpability but specifically of the religious leaders of that day who were responsible for the crucifixion of Jesus Christ but the authority of the day that carried it out was the Romans. Their eventual punishment was the destruction of their civilization from the inside.
I also contend the current destruction of all western nations today is a reality because of their embrace of the stench/ horrible smell in the nostrils of God.
Carrying that to the present, I note that many nations in the European sphere historically cast out Jewish people. So is that not considered persecution? Nor the historic mistreatment of Jews down through time?
Going back to the scriptures, the condemnation by Jesus the Glorified Christ, in His judgment and condemnation of the seven churches of Asia, representing the current religions of the day, found only ONE religion that He gave a mere pass. The rest He judged as failures.
So what were the beginnings of Islam? Do you consider that Islam existed then as one of the "churches of Asia" He condemned? If He did not, and it existed, then why would He countenance in the doing a complete silent repudiation of His Christianity, works, example, teachings and reality? Islam claims their example to be Mohammed. I claim mine to be Jesus and that I believe will cost me my head down the line that I will gladly offer.
I pose that the only religion, the One He gave a pass to was Christianity, that exists fully teaching the reality of "love thine enemy" when in fact Islam countenances the murder, enslavement and torture of ALL OTHER RELIGIONS. You claim the Jewish religion also does. I find that hard to believe. But I have never delved deeply into things. You are not the first to question my thoughts and opinions. But your demeanor coaxes questions and your questions coax questions in me.
There has been and is a solid setting for the ONLY religion that preaches a tolerant attitude but not agreement of any and all other belief CYSTems I also condemn with the caveat that comes from Him, that He gives us a free moral right to choose or reject Him, curse Him, and even condemn Him. Does there exist any other religion with those quantified qualifications? You know the answer. So you inferred the Jewish religion is corrupt? I note you did not defend Islam but tried to justify its serious excesses on the basis of its right to torture Israeli children.
My case is solidly built on history and accurate fact. You have triggered the full circle route wherein the justification and authentification of the Only True God ordained religion as being Christianity. Did Jesus mandate torture? Slavery? Genocide? Or any sins? No!!!! Does Islam? Yes? Does Judaism? According to you and others it does. Can I believe that? Hard to accept. For me. But I will find the Truth on the matter.
But I can and do accept Jesus alone as the Only Way to salvation. The Only True God and in that process, I condemn ALL other religions as apostate. Your premise tacitly states whether you like it or not that atrocities committed by the Jewish are real but also committed by Islam. Hard for me to accept without valid proof that the Jewish people are guilty of same. But my appetite has been whetted and I fully realize the answer to my question is not only in the Holy Bible BUT also in the temporal realm.
So this is my end game and I know one person and temporal authority I trust who will give me an audience and answer one question that will resolve it all in my mind.
The lineage of Jesus is in fact Jewish and scripturally proven. Yet why have the atrocities you and others claim caused by Jewish people not backed by strong evidence? But I have reached the point in my existence that few reach. Most blindly embrace any one of the many false religions of the day. I do not but I have studied many. And my studies/investigations are NOT COMPLETE on all matters.
I MUST ADD THERE IS ANOTHER AUTHORITY I MENTIONED making three sources of PROBABLE Truth in all this.
So I do not look on you as adversarial. In fact you are one who actually triggered my curiosity for Truth and if you care at all about Truth you might well be interested in my further investigations by my meeting with a trusted man from Israel, a man who is a strong proponent of the Jewish faith, and another who I trust implicitly as a tried and proven source of Truth. I know this because he has never hesitated to encourage me but also never hesitates/hesitated in offering correction and direction to me.
I absolutely know these all will not lie. Two of these are religious leaders, the other is schooled by his experiences and constant presence in Israel.
I will be pleased to offer the results of my observations for your perusal but I am sure I will find Truth in my queries. I do however say I will also meet with another perhaps today also well schooled in reality who happens to be married as a survivor of the Rwandan genocide that resulted in the murder of her husband. Both her and her present husband will have much to say on this.
It is not my will to accept the Jewish people are culpable. I really did not want to go down this road. HamASS started the most recent conflict.
But the people I will query and who will not hesitate on this score to tell me truthfully, I will accept. If I have been in error I can and will delineate that, without excuse.
But the bottom line here is that there is only One God, One alone who can offer redemption. In saying that I will and have aroused anger and hatred from most of the worldly population. But that was also foretold.
Life is exciting and all one has to do is search for, defend and embrace the Truth.
I have given you fair treatment but you have inadvertently given to me more so than anger, a desire to really get to the bottom of this. And I have the ability and the ones who will steer me straight. And I will. My first contact with two will happen right after I post this even at four thirty in the morn.
In my mind is the old song by Johnny Cash titled, "What Is Truth." It can be likened in its substance and priceless value to a beautiful woman, ever elusive but aware of her sublimity. It takes time, and effort, patience and persistence to court and capture the heart of such a woman, I categorically define as "real" women.
I say this knowing of the four I have and do trust as counsel, as being totally honest. The fourth 98% trustworthy. I also add to that something that will seem out of place that I said to a fine and highly intelligent medical professional in my client list for over three decades. I told her in one or our serious discussions, "There are worse things in life than dying." She agreed in a moment. And there are. One of those is living a life where one goes along to get along. Because of that most western nations are in decline. Few care to proclaim the Truth on any matter and Truth has been replaced by greed, selfishness, idolatry, and all that comes from the "love of money" which is the "root of all evil." It is true. All evil exists because of that including porn, (billions in profit yearly) abortion, sex trafficking, illicit drug dealing, scamdemics, etc.
In the USA, the bastion of freedom, I believe the Minutemen are turning in their graves, and I hold accountable apostate ministers few of which preach Truth. They knew and know it, but have become false, and apostate. Nuff said.
Always Edward