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denise ward's avatar

Everyone is in denial so the tyrants just get encouraged. Everybody went along so they're going to double-down. It will continue, it will get worse, it will get beyond worse because the people have to say the two letter word "no" and they haven't so far.

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Darel L. Long's avatar

308, 9mm, 50 cal, 223......

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denise ward's avatar

Is that barbaric gun talk? Or something to do with calories? Why can't you be clear?

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Darel L. Long's avatar

Aren't you aware of New Zealand's history with guns? I've lived in New Zealand, and the citizens were appalled when they banned guns and required citizens to turn n their guns. Though out history, when governments ban or confiscate guns tyranny soon follows.

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denise ward's avatar

It's always the only resort men can think of. How about using some strategy instead of guns? I think that relying on weapons only makes the brain into fudge. I am not suggesting guns should be taken away but everyone in NZ is still paying taxes and still not talking about how they can stop paying taxes. All everyone has been doing is bending over to take it in the ass. That only encourages psychopaths. How about learning to say "no"? Or getting together and networking and talking about some kind of strategy? We can't do anything alone. Even with guns, you'd still perish - some people can't grow food, some people need care. In his-story it's always been about war and weapons, how about we try something smart this time?

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Darel L. Long's avatar

Your attempt to repudiate history and chastise men is unwarranted and misguided. The citizens of New Zealand were told if they turned in their guns, the government would maintain peace and order. Didn't you read Paul's headline where they have fallen to Tyranny? Now the only people who have the guns are those enforcing tyranny? No reasonable man or woman should ever promote guns unless it's the last resort and now one of my friends who lives in New Zealand who refused the jab is in jail.

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denise ward's avatar

What did you miss that I wrote? I said I'm not for giving up guns. What my beef is this constant reliance on guns and nothing else. What are you going to do - go shooting your way through life? Guns didn't work because here we are, same situation, same story. Everyone should have seen the writing on the wall ages ago. But they didn't so what now at the final hour? Well there are still some things we can do - like take money out of bank accounts and close them, learn to live on the cash and barter economy, look for alternative currencies (not crypto), boycott big stores especially like Amazon and Walmart. Yes, people have to go without for a while, but that's how we win. It will only be temporary and if people had the spine to do that, the inconvenience would be brief, but on the other side of the wave lays a very abundant new world. We can get through this and with flying colors, but it won't happen if we rely on guns. We have to you the old noggin now. Even guns won't help you, they've got drones and directed energy weapons. Guns are like water pistols in comparison. Intelligence is going to get us out of this and that is all in my view that can do it this time. Men have been fluffing it up for eons. This time is very different to any time in previous his-story.

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Barry Varkel's avatar

Good for you Denise;))

Well said.

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Barry Varkel's avatar

The good ole' swashbuckling frontier days of the USA are still uppermost in so many peoples' minds. As are the founding fathers and all the Aesops fables about freedom and personal choice. It never existed, never will. It was just another fiction created to soothe the frightended general working class population. I cringe every time I hear about the "founding fathers" concept used in current political debates and legal arguments in court cases.

Stop living in an abstract past of 300 years ago and wake up to the contemporary BS happening right now, and day and night, ever since the end of the WW2.

Covid was the atomic bomb of realisation that everyone's country, the world over, had abandoned them, and it was an innocence lost all over again on an unimaginable scale.

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DrLatusDextro's avatar

Oh the grand irony. I'm with you when the government, corporates and the enforcers divest themselves of weapons of subjugation (including guns) though in the end, faced with their irrepressible desire to subjugate, to exploit power and control, to be corrupted and greed ridden, you'll be confronted with a need to erase pitchforks, then sticks and stones, and then anything with the potential of a weapon. So, mandatory removal of all hands at birth should remove the threat of a killer fist? Why go to the trouble? Do what the subjugating anti-human illiberal Greens suggest, aim to expunge homo sapiens from the face of the globe.

No, the answer lies in addressing evil generally, of exercising absolute (rather than relative) morality, of distinguishing between good and evil, the evils of absolute power and control, and the consequence of infinite wealth (Davos man and woman).

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denise ward's avatar

I hope I didn't give the impression that we should give up guns right now. NO, the world has to change first. Governments have to be made obsolete first.

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TSMe's avatar

Denise, your approach can work with a benevolent foe, intent on a genuine resolution. It is grossly misguided when dealing with a foe intent on achieving their nefarious objective.

Should we all put our hand up, shout "No, I don't like it" and watch as these psychopaths slither away defeated?

Have you no understanding of history? If only those who suffered at the hands of the Fascists, Communists, and every other tyrant throughout history had their wits about them, and just said "No, I won't comply".

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TSMe's avatar

The 'pen is mightier than the sword'. But, without a sword in your hand, a powerful enemy will not care what you write.

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Darel L. Long's avatar

We need to use Amendment X as the most peaceful solution to help mitigate USA tyranny across every GOP ran state.

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