And not just in Gaza, in the West Bank, too. But wars end with negotiation. And what the media glosses over is, it’s hard to negotiate when the other side’s bargaining position is you all die
From the river to the sea all Palestine will be free. Free as in Freedom, which the Palestinians living under occupation in the West bank and blockade in Gaza don't currently have. Pretending that is a call for genocide is disingenuous at best, and bordering on moronic. The Israeli Likud party that Netanyahu is a member, has a similar slogan " between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty." Bill Maher has gone full blown retard, and it is sad to see Dr. Alexander has almost reached that point as well. It's like Israeli propaganda has broken their critical thinking skills.
See the video posted. You're not considering that the Palestinians are their own worse enemy. They had Gaza, and could have made it their own prosperous state, if they wanted to. They chose to instead let Hamas who they elected turn Gaza into a terrorist death camp, aid and assistance from dozens of countries to make their lives better they turned over to Hamas, (or Hamas stole it) , to manufacture a terrorist complex with which to attack Israel. Maher and Dr. Alexander are spot on. Notice that the Israeli "blockade" failed to keep weapons out, materials to make weapons, rockets. Not much of a real blockade.
They are under occupation you moron. Do you think oct 7th happened in a vaccuum?
Israel has been terrorizing, raping, killing Palestinians while using Jewish settlers and kibbutz to shrink the size of Gaza and the West bank while expanding greater Israel
Go look at a map of that region since 2002 and youll see the never ending encroachment into Gaza and West Bank as Israel expands and they shrink
Rombios tells one lie after another. Israel terrorizing, raping, killing Palestinians? Where are all the Israeli suicide bombers? Why don't we ever see in any news about Israeli's raping and killing Palestinians? Look at the Israeli Torah and the Bible, they preach peace, kindness, 10 Commandments, turn the other cheek, love not war. Look at the Qur'an. It demands Jihad, killing, raping, torturing, their Allah tortures victims too. That's what Muslims do, exactly what their Qur'an says, and they've been doing it for hundreds of years. How did Israel encroach into Gaza when they gave the whole place to the Palestinians in 2005?
Not only gave it to them, unearned, but provided them with the means to become a flourishing state. They blew it all, because of *the dirty Jews*, cut their whiny stupid noses off to spite their medieval, barbaric faces. Much like they cut the water pipes supplying fresh water, to make housing for rockets.
It is very evident that you dont know the first thing about what's gone on in the area. But as usual the default position on not knowing anything is to weigh in like you're some kind of expert, while ignoring history and go along with a fake narrative that supports your fossilized ideological beliefs. And of course, namecall! That always strengthens your case.....
Lol. Send me something better than Jimmy Dore's pro Hamas propaganda. The clip from 1948 has been debunked earlier, and was the subject of a defamation lawsuit by vets. In JIMMY'S clip segment the viewer cant hear any of what the vets are actually saying in Hebrew: however Jimmy is reading in a loud voice the subtitles in English. Which proves exactly nothing except that he is a lying manipulator on this issue..
If you wanted to you could have chosen any of the well documented evidence of atrocities committed by Hamas at that time from other sources. But you didnt. You prefer to ignore all that in order to regurgitate one item from a questionable source like Haaretz.....but you would never attempt to quote something from Haaretz as a viable source unless it supported your chosen ideology. And again, you are depending on USEFUL IDIOT INFLUENCER Jimmy Dore for your source here. Give me a direct link to Haaretz on that: did you even check that out for yourself before you pressed SEND?
Israel was fully aware of the natural gas and oil fields of Gaza BEFORE they withdrew 20 years ago. What's your point? Why didnt they develop them then? I am just asking obvious questions here. Questions you ought to be asking yourself if you are at all interested in uncovering the complicated truth behind the current situation
Jimmy is a secondary or even tertiary mouthpiece put out there to propagandize people. Do yourself a favor and do better.....you are just taking whatever your favorite influencer has to say as the absolute Truth
Stop lying. It's tiresome, yet comical, in a way that inspires pity for your stunning illiteracy and or dishonesty. There is no historical *Palestinian* nation, state, country, ethnicity...uh...*you moron*. What part of the timeline from the British Mandate, onward, eludes your pitiful comprehension skills? The Brits got tired of the Arabs---there was no Palestine, so just stop the drunken Jew-hatred that drives you to embarrass yourself as the illiterate you are---dickering over EVERY SINGLE partition plan, even when the Arabs wound up with land that had been allotted to Israel. Your narrative is obscenely stoooooopid, to resort to your level of discourse. What a dimwitted coward to persist in denying history. Grow the hell up. Your ignorance is comical, but your Jew-hatred marks you as a vicious, d*ckless coward, since that coarseness is the only language that your brain, denuded of any but the few single digit IQ points remaining. Unless you are an 18-yr-old college freshman, there is no excuse for this illiteracy.
It's historically accurate. The date was 1000 BCE, my error. Many texts describe King David, the Bible and Jewish texts, he's even said to be a prophet of Allah in the Qur'an
Where do you get your misinformation? It was never the Palestinians. It might have once belonged to someone else, Jordan I believe, but not the Palestinians.
Everything that is allowed into Gaza, food, fuel, goods, is totally controlled by Israel. Hamas got money from Israel, Bibi is on vid talking about it, how good it was to divide Palestinians so Israel could control them better. I watched a video about the tunnels in Gaza, no doubt arms brought in, but predominant use was bringing in necessary foods, and other short supply stuff - similar to Warsaw ghetto. Or people took risk to get out to see family members. In West Bank, there are the Israeli illegal settlements, Palestinians forced out of their homes and new Israeli homes and roads built which only Israelis use. Their vehicles have distinctive yellow plates. The Palestinians have to use old roads and tracks, lots unsuitable for vehicles due to Israeli damage or non repair. Lets get this clear, I am for humanity. I am against crazy people, war, genocide. Has everyone forgotten BiBi offered up all Israeli people to be lab rats for Pfizer? Much death and injuries, still ongoing. He doesn't care about Israeli people either. He's carrying out globalists agenda just same as our politicians. Genocide and total eradication from the land is the objective. All but 2 countries of UN voted for ceasefire. The 2 who didn't were UK which abstained and US who was only one voting against a cease fire. They set up UN in first place, surprisingly with Nazi leaders too! Supposedly set up to prevent wars and punish those who break international laws on warfare. I'll let you guess which country has broken the rules every time! Take a step back and look at the bigger picture. Is this being done to bring about a bigger war, to coax an alleged enemy to come to aid of Palestinians? Is it another 9/11 situation to bring this about?
Why do you bend over backwards to defend the Palestinians? Everything you come up with is stretching it like a rubber band. "Divide Palestinians to control them" How did Israel control them when they built hundreds of miles of tunnels, have their own Hamas government, come up with hundreds of weapons? Food came in just fine to Gaza before Israel left in 2005 and there weren't tunnels. Maybe there are disputed Israeli settlements in West Bank, that's another discussion to argue about. What about the 10,000 Israeli's forced out of their homes in Gaza when Israel GAVE GAZA to the Palestinians? Nothing Israel did came within a light year of deserving the Oct 7 attack. It's always the Israeli's continual giving to the Palestinians. Like allowing Palestinians to come work in Israel, only to find out they were spies. Israel is the only country on earth that tries to protect civilians in war, leaflets, phone calls. They only target the military, while Hamas and the Muslims target civilian targets in Israel. War crimes, look to Hamas, Muslims, Russia, even the USA, but not Israel. You're whining about a "cease fire". There was a "cease fire", but Hamas broke it, over and over.
I am speaking out for the innocent peoples caught up in this, from both sides, old, women, children. Can you imagine Northern Ireland being raised to the ground by the British in order to get all the IRA terrorists? Only US voted against cease fire with it's partner in crime, UK abstaining. You must be the only one not seeing genocide. Plenty Jews written open letter to stop genocide and find out what really happened on 7th Oct as to who actually killed the Israelis. Most buildings wrecked by tank fire, with hostages in them, helicopters attacking music festival people fleeing. All reported by soldiers and Israeli surviving witnesses.
Your falsehoods are legend. The only genocide going on is that of Islam attempting to wipe all Jews off the earth. I dare you to watch the video. You don't have the guts.
1948, there were atrocities on both sides, you can't paint 2023 Israel with what happened 75 years ago. Again, why doesn't Gaza use the oil and gas? Israel isn't wiping out Hamas to get this "oil and gas", it's called self defense after Hamas brutally murdered 1200 innocent people.
How convenient pointing at 1948 as if the same rapes and brutalization aren't still occurring. Those veterans weren't under a gag order, the current IDF are
Gaza can't use the oil and gas because they are under occupation.. anything that land through traditional routes must be vetted by the occupying force.
That's why the first thing the IDF did on Oct 8 was cut off all GAZAs electricity, food and Internet access.
For you to ask that stupid question shows how heartless you have become
Now wait a minute. You say huge oil and gas deposits off of the coast of Gaza. So Israel left Gaza in 2005. Why didn't the Gazans develop the oil and gas, they had over 20 years. I think the oil and gas story is all a made up lie. When the Oct 7 attack came with the atrocities, including rape, torture, burning, of innocent people the entire world found out. If the IDF was doing the same, the entire world would find this out right away too. Hamas would be shouting from the rooftops about this, and no, we don't hear a peep. Because IDF doesn't do atrocities like Muslims.
Thats why you dont hear from HAMAS about IDF rapes. IDF cut off power and internet into Gaza on oct 11 and our media censors uncomfortable stories about the IDF
Below us the times of Israel talking about an IDF gag order
They are not *Jews*, writing those letters. They are secular, leftist atheists who reject their Jewish provenance. *Innocent people* in Palestine? You mean the 90% who voted for Hamas, knowing full well of Hamas' STATED SOLE MISSION to eradicate Israel, and exterminate every Jew, not *just* those in Israel. And they still overwhelmingly support Hamas. Got that? ALL JEWS. Everywhere on the earth. USA voted 'no' to ceasefire, because Palestine has broken every single ceasefire that has been brokered---including the one that was in effect on 10/7. And that massacre of Israeli Jews was aided by *innocent Palestinians*, who accompanied the thousands of Hamas killers. Their kids are stewed in murderous Jew-hatred, from birth. And, no, no *Jewish helicopters* attacked, raped, and killed the Israelis at the Nova festival. These blood libels are revolting and make it far too easy to see how cowardly, hateful humans devolved into the same evil as the *good Germans* of the WW2-era.
You are SO full of crap. Where did you get this *education*? The predominant use of those tunnels was for the storage of caches of weapons and armaments and fuel. What does the placement of those tunnels tell you, hun? They were built under hospitals, schools, apartments, for what? Altruism? If that were true, they could store all that *food* in the modern, sanitary warehouses that Israel left them. To compare terrorists openly, publicly committed to the extermination of Jews, to the Warsaw ghettos is just profane. Do you really have no grasp of history? That comparison isn't even subtly nuanced, it's indecently stupid.
You also clearly have no idea of what genocide even is, or who has PUBLICLY, EXPLICITLY COMMITTED TO THE EXTERMINATION OF ALL JEWS. You are most certainly not for *humanity*. Not for Jewish *humanity*. What you wrote is abhorrently a bastardization of history and facts.
Here's a typical Palestinian mother proud of her murdering son. This is how Gazan people brainwash their children to do nothing in life except to hate.
Explain why you think flying the flag of an enemy state publicly vocal about its goal of eradicating your country and exterminating your citizens is not punishable under aiding and abetting the enemy laws. Hamas has declared war on Israel. Your whataboutisms are typical of one who can defend his own argument.
Your series of illiterate lies is so absurd as to invite nothing but laughter. Worse yet, you know you are lying. Hamas massacred well over a thousand Jew in one day. Obviously they are capable of making war, because they have, and been transparent about it. No one is occupying Gaza. That is a patently stupid claim, even on the surface. There are no Jews or Israelis in Gaza. Nor is Israel *occupying palestinian land*. Clearly you have no interest in the history of the partitioning of the region, or regard for facts. You exert a great deal of energy in verbally fellating other Jew-haters. Find another hobby.
Yes they are. On a daily basis long before Oct 7. It's only thanks to social media and the courage of Arab reporters that we get a glimpse of the violence, brutality and rapes of young women committed by the IDF..
Am neither Jew nor Arab. Which allows me an unbiased view of this event
Notice that any criticism of Israel by non Jews is labeled anti semitic even though Palestinians are semites.
But any criticism of Israel by Jews is labeled self hate.
You are such a truly cowardly and unhinged liar. Please save your raucously slapstick *I can't be biased* lunacy for amateur night at the comedy club. And, hun bun, Semite refers to language, not race or nationality, of which, btw, *palestinians* are neither. The term *anti-semite* was coined in the late 1800's by a German Jew-hater whom I'm certain you are familiar with, i.e., Wilhelm Marr, who coined the word to refer to Jews, and only Jews. But you know this.
Israel has not occupied Gaza since 2003....it protects its air space.....but Hamas has occupied the Gaza and terrorized the citizens there....then again they voted Hamas in....i guess you would love women to live under Sharia law and all people be terrorized by terrorists.....perhaps you need to look at your viewpoints because Bill is correct and his history is correct and there have been 5 attempts at a two state solution Israel willing but terrorists not willing.....Israel has delivered food to Gaza but the people have reported that the food did not go to them.....just as when the US gives money for the people of a poor nation and it never gets to the people.....this is not new.....you do not know your facts or history....
Oh, for eff's sake, give it up. Israel has NEVER supplied more than 7% of Gaza's utilities. What part of history again eludes you??? Israel left Gaza with a modern, complex infrastructure, including utilities. But while we're on that subject, recall that the Gazans destroyed the pipelines that provided fresh water, dismembering them to make rocket housings to be lobbed at Israel. Israel left Gaza with ALL the capability and capacity to provide desalinated water, but because Jews are so demonically hated by these inbred buttholes, they stupidly cut their own noses off to spite their faces. And then, in characteristic fashion, whine like 7-th grade mean girls who've been spurned by their crushes.
Your *concern* for the continued wellbeing and convenience of dedicated, genocidal murders is touching. Or more accurately, you are touched.
Sure I am, hun. Rolling my eyes at the standard Jew-haters' defense of claiming that *semite* is a race when it is a language. Arabic and Aramaic and Hebrew are semitic languages, referring to languages spoken in a broad geographic area. *Antisemitism* was coined by Jew-haters as a coy euphemism for *Jew-hatred*.
I didn't say Israel was occupying Gaza, though they have been since Oct 7th. I said that Israel is occupying the West Bank, and imposed an illegal blockade on Gaza in 2007 . "According to modern international law, blockades are an act of war.[2] They are illegal as part of a war of aggression[3] or when used against a civilian population".
Because I don't believe every video on U tube. And I know the truth. Out of the Arab Muslim lands in the middle east, Israel is like 1.5% of the total. Yet the Muslims won't even allow Jews to have the 1.5%, which historically had been their home for hundreds of years. King David established Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel in 1000 B.C. That's more than 1,500 years before Muhammed was born. Another fact, the words Jerusalem or Zion appear nearly a 1000 times in the Hebrew bible and the New Testament. It never appears in the Qur'an. Why do you think Jews aren't entitled to the tiny 1.5% and Muslims are?
God is not on the side of Muslims. Their Islam is a made up phony death cult. The Qur'an was put together from plagiarisms from the Bible, and Torah, and other existing texts, in Baghdad Iraq, 200 years after Muhammad. The Qur'an consists of stories of Muhammads 75 raids to attack innocent people to steal their property and lives. The Qur'an insists that the best thing any Muslim can do is wage Jihad to kill any infidels, and that Muslims who stay home and refuse to fight "are the vile animals". No wonder where ever Islam is there's misery and conflict.
How can there be any peace when people like the examples here are what we're dealing with? There is no God on their side when all they want to do is murder, rape, and steal.
Tell me. The Europeans who immigrate from Poland, Germany, U.S to erect Kibbutzes and use armed forces to remove and detain the individuals in land - have they any conscience: at all?
Israel was created by international agreement and the British. The Jews who came to settle were in the land that was Israel for them to live there. . There were few Palestinians in the land then, Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain) visited Jerusalem in those days and reported the place mostly deserted. Israel has mostly left more land to the Palestinians like Gaza, given to them in 2005, thousands of Jews were forced to leave. The West bank has mostly Arabs and Palestinians, it's governed by the Palestinian authority. Where are the "Armed Forces that removed Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza? Islamic countries consist of 98% of the land area and Israel is only 1.5%. There's plenty of land for Muslims, but they're greedy, they want 100%, 98% isn't enough, and besides wanting all the Jews to leave Israel, they want to kill them also. Look at how unfair that is. You're greedy, you want 100% of all that land, you won't even let the Jews have 1.5%, where is your conscience?
In the age of mass production and centralization of narratives spread around the world at the speed of light critical thinking is difficult. We need to stop thinking in stereotypes. The citizens of every country are pawns. Our villains are propped up in front of us by, wait for it…the real villains. We’re always being led around by the nose by government and rich business oligarchs. We say we know. We say we see it. We cry fake news! Yet virtually everyone falls for whatever the news tells them. The only way any of us form opinions about things that are happening is from the information we are fed. Fed and led. Fed and led…
I agree that we are being fed lies, and it is sad to see the right wing influencers, like Dr. Alexander, swallow all of the Israeli propaganda and lies. https://mellano.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/maga.jpg
@Michael G. Fons You are spreading much worse narratives and lies than Dr Alexander regarding the situations in the West Bank. Do you really honor historical facts or not? If I point out to you Palestine rejected repeatedly rejected the offer for a two-state solution, would you change your mind and rhetoric?
I predict: Fat chance.
You don’t want to know facts and history. But you gave a load of false narratives and spins about Palestine.
Ask Egypt and Jordan why they DON’T WANT Palestinians, especially the Muslim Brotherhood supporters in their countries? I predict you will ignore their answers and continue to sing your false propaganda narrative no matter what.
...and like clockwork, the KKK dude with equal parts of illiteracy, stupidity, and raw Jew-hatred, responded as exactly as predicted. Ya just almost have to laugh.
Anti-Zionism is factually antisemitism. The first hides behind a cowardly shield. Israel is a Jewish state. Hence *anti-Zionism* is anti-Semitism. Stop hiding behind the tortured *rationale* of of *semites*.
How do you negotiate with the whole group which never recognizes the right of existence for the state of Israel? People like you lie about the situation of Palestinian statehood by covering up the fact that Palestine has been given chances of becoming an independent state 5 times since 1947. Fives times the Palestinians REJECTED the solution. Your statement above sounds exactly the same as what the evil leftists maintain. But they are lies.
Check facts and historical records, NOT your bullshits.
Palestinians don't want a independent state. They want every Israeli dead, they want all of Israel. Arab Muslims occupy 98.5% of all the middle east land, but they want 100%, Why do you think it's not fair for Israel to have 1.5%
You are a flat-out liar. The history of the Arabs' refusal to accept anything less than their absurdly baseless demands to *own* a region that HAD NEVER BEEN THEIRS, historically, legally, geopolitically, is public record. And they are not shy about their arrogance and greed.
What *occupation*? Palestine was never, ever a state, or nation or ethnicity. It refers to a region, as in 'Appalachia', 'Ozarks'. 'New England'. Factually, *Palestine* occupies the land that Israel was supposed to occupy, and where they bought land from the Ottomans, per the British Mandate and subsequent divisions. You are full blown *retard* in your persistence in perverting history in the service of Jew-hatred. The Arabs----what you insist, in your illiteracy, on referring to mythical *palestinians*---have rejected every single offer of a two-state solution.
Stop lying. Do you never tire of being rebuked for such lazy cowardice? A *cursory look at the map" only PROVES that your claim is a lie. The only land stolen was from Israel, as a *cursory look at the map*, from 1920 onward, proves that Israel conceded to every demand, hoping for peace. The hell you looked at any map, but that from the KKK Little Golden Coloring Book for
Antisemite Dummies. They didn't have to do that. In retrospect, they were far too optimistic that a people from a cult that is literally built upon the demand for the obliteration of Jews, would ever honor their end of the deals.
@rombios Bullshit narratives. Arafat rejected the two-state solution without any counter offers. Palestine and Arab states rejected 5 times the formal offer for Palestinian State.
Palestinians turned down a "2 state solution" in 1947, '93, '95, '98, 2000, 2008. 400m barrels? Then why didn't the Gazans pump it out and use that money to improve their lives, instead of relying on the entire world and the USA to pump money into their rotten terrorist enclave?
There will never be a independent state, Israel knows it can't trust Palestinians ever again. No more workers either. Trust is gone completely. In fact the world knows there will never be a "Palestinian state. All the money that various countries, and Biden, $300 million to Gaza, they spent on tunnels to conduct war, weapons, rockets, instead of helping the Gazan people. The Hamas leadership, all living in luxury Apt's in Qatar, all billionaires, stole the money from the Gazans. But I wouldn't doubt that the filled with hate, and brainwashed Gazans wouldn't vote for hamas again.
One of your basic premises here is false. WWII, for example, ended with the unconditional surrender of both Germany and Japan to the Western allies. Most wars in history end this way. Certainly not “negotiation”.
Sorry, but wars do not end with negotiation. Wars end when one side can no longer wage war or has lost the willingness to wage war. Or to put it bluntly, wars end when one side has had its sockets knocked off. Negotiated “ends” to wars give us the unended Korean War and the never ending cycle of negotiated cease fires and violations of same in the Middle East. If you want the war between Israel and Hamas to end, you leave them to beat the shit out of each other until only one is left standing. Then the war, as horrible is it is ends. This prolonging the hell of war through generations is probably the single worst idea man has ever come up with.
'Mouse fever outbreak' is 'mowing down frontline Russian troops, with symptoms ranging from vomiting to bleeding eyes' immidiately checking into this story! Drop everything else now! IN DAILY MAIL THEY were soo in the corner they let ykraine unleash a biological weapon on the Russian troops! They did it!! They unleashed probably through a signal the memorizing fever like illness. I KNOW THIS AINT FROM A LITTLE MOUSE JUST IN THE RUSSIANS! AND THEY GLOAT. THEY DID IT CALLING THEM RUSSIAN RATS DYING FROM MOUSE FEVER. AIBT THEY CLEVER. WAIT FOR MORE YERRIBLE WEAPONS UNLEASHED ALSO IN PAKISTAN ABD WHI KNOWS WHERE!! I AM SICK TO MY STOMACH!
I am upset because the Russians def. Will think this is an attack ( which it also is) and we can only expect some counterattack with a biological weapon possibly on the usa.
Uh oh. Blaming a rodent this time (there is no pangolin to blame it on there...). But it does appear legit: leptospirosis from the rats. Could it be something else? Also, any article on Buttar's cause of death?
Btw shedding is now said to be real but as you can see in May it still wasn't 'real'. This whole thing is a weaponssystem developed for ww3. First it gets used in combat and then on any citizen 'enemy sympathizers'. For the weapon to work a few factors have to be activated as a binary (or higher) weapon as Mike Adam's many years ( before covid) ago already explained.
I was listening to Jonathan Otto's interview with B. Ardis and H. Ealy. Interesting how this thing is transmittable. through bacteria and yeast, then 5G and blue light come into play to make sure the "spike" gets past the cell membrane. Bingo.
From the river to the sea all Palestine will be free. Free as in Freedom, which the Palestinians living under occupation in the West bank and blockade in Gaza don't currently have. Pretending that is a call for genocide is disingenuous at best, and bordering on moronic. The Israeli Likud party that Netanyahu is a member, has a similar slogan " between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty." Bill Maher has gone full blown retard, and it is sad to see Dr. Alexander has almost reached that point as well. It's like Israeli propaganda has broken their critical thinking skills.
See the video posted. You're not considering that the Palestinians are their own worse enemy. They had Gaza, and could have made it their own prosperous state, if they wanted to. They chose to instead let Hamas who they elected turn Gaza into a terrorist death camp, aid and assistance from dozens of countries to make their lives better they turned over to Hamas, (or Hamas stole it) , to manufacture a terrorist complex with which to attack Israel. Maher and Dr. Alexander are spot on. Notice that the Israeli "blockade" failed to keep weapons out, materials to make weapons, rockets. Not much of a real blockade.
They had Gaza?
They are under occupation you moron. Do you think oct 7th happened in a vaccuum?
Israel has been terrorizing, raping, killing Palestinians while using Jewish settlers and kibbutz to shrink the size of Gaza and the West bank while expanding greater Israel
Go look at a map of that region since 2002 and youll see the never ending encroachment into Gaza and West Bank as Israel expands and they shrink
You are a heartless human being
Rombios tells one lie after another. Israel terrorizing, raping, killing Palestinians? Where are all the Israeli suicide bombers? Why don't we ever see in any news about Israeli's raping and killing Palestinians? Look at the Israeli Torah and the Bible, they preach peace, kindness, 10 Commandments, turn the other cheek, love not war. Look at the Qur'an. It demands Jihad, killing, raping, torturing, their Allah tortures victims too. That's what Muslims do, exactly what their Qur'an says, and they've been doing it for hundreds of years. How did Israel encroach into Gaza when they gave the whole place to the Palestinians in 2005?
Not only gave it to them, unearned, but provided them with the means to become a flourishing state. They blew it all, because of *the dirty Jews*, cut their whiny stupid noses off to spite their medieval, barbaric faces. Much like they cut the water pipes supplying fresh water, to make housing for rockets.
https://youtu.be/sWka3LDmsIk?si=ZHHXMV770H65uy03
IDF admitting to raping women and killing hostages
https://youtu.be/YLxnhFuUlnQ?si=JxBSISaFCy4dBHLD
Haaretz debunking lies about Hamas. No decapitated newborns
https://youtu.be/R_ojjTGJz7w?si=PMostp7JXaAWr6iY
Gaza has 100b barrels under the sand and many thousands of cubic feet of off shore natural gas
Dore is a comedian, not a investigative journalist
Stay focused moron. Dore is not the issue. The issue is the information in Haaretzhe bring light to
It is very evident that you dont know the first thing about what's gone on in the area. But as usual the default position on not knowing anything is to weigh in like you're some kind of expert, while ignoring history and go along with a fake narrative that supports your fossilized ideological beliefs. And of course, namecall! That always strengthens your case.....
https://youtu.be/sWka3LDmsIk?si=ZHHXMV770H65uy03
IDF admitting to raping women and killing hostages
https://youtu.be/YLxnhFuUlnQ?si=JxBSISaFCy4dBHLD
Haaretz debunking lies about Hamas. No decapitated newborns
https://youtu.be/R_ojjTGJz7w?si=PMostp7JXaAWr6iY
Gaza has 100b barrels under the sand and many thousands of cubic feet of off shore natural gas
Lol. Send me something better than Jimmy Dore's pro Hamas propaganda. The clip from 1948 has been debunked earlier, and was the subject of a defamation lawsuit by vets. In JIMMY'S clip segment the viewer cant hear any of what the vets are actually saying in Hebrew: however Jimmy is reading in a loud voice the subtitles in English. Which proves exactly nothing except that he is a lying manipulator on this issue..
If you wanted to you could have chosen any of the well documented evidence of atrocities committed by Hamas at that time from other sources. But you didnt. You prefer to ignore all that in order to regurgitate one item from a questionable source like Haaretz.....but you would never attempt to quote something from Haaretz as a viable source unless it supported your chosen ideology. And again, you are depending on USEFUL IDIOT INFLUENCER Jimmy Dore for your source here. Give me a direct link to Haaretz on that: did you even check that out for yourself before you pressed SEND?
Israel was fully aware of the natural gas and oil fields of Gaza BEFORE they withdrew 20 years ago. What's your point? Why didnt they develop them then? I am just asking obvious questions here. Questions you ought to be asking yourself if you are at all interested in uncovering the complicated truth behind the current situation
Jimmy is a secondary or even tertiary mouthpiece put out there to propagandize people. Do yourself a favor and do better.....you are just taking whatever your favorite influencer has to say as the absolute Truth
Pathetic straw man and ar hominem attack. Classic deflection.
You can see the sources right in the video itself.
Pathetic
Reread my comment
Stop lying. It's tiresome, yet comical, in a way that inspires pity for your stunning illiteracy and or dishonesty. There is no historical *Palestinian* nation, state, country, ethnicity...uh...*you moron*. What part of the timeline from the British Mandate, onward, eludes your pitiful comprehension skills? The Brits got tired of the Arabs---there was no Palestine, so just stop the drunken Jew-hatred that drives you to embarrass yourself as the illiterate you are---dickering over EVERY SINGLE partition plan, even when the Arabs wound up with land that had been allotted to Israel. Your narrative is obscenely stoooooopid, to resort to your level of discourse. What a dimwitted coward to persist in denying history. Grow the hell up. Your ignorance is comical, but your Jew-hatred marks you as a vicious, d*ckless coward, since that coarseness is the only language that your brain, denuded of any but the few single digit IQ points remaining. Unless you are an 18-yr-old college freshman, there is no excuse for this illiteracy.
Yes, the Palestinians are occupying land that never was theirs.
And Israelis are occupying land that was also never theirs
King David founded Jerusalem as the Jewish capitol in 2000 BC.
No he did not. No such person EVER existed. Its a myth YOU believe in
It's historically accurate. The date was 1000 BCE, my error. Many texts describe King David, the Bible and Jewish texts, he's even said to be a prophet of Allah in the Qur'an
Its all myth (for the feeble minded). No different from Asgard and Thor. Anubis and Ra. Gilgemish and Hercules.
These were the tales given people of that era to quell and subdo them.
I know it must hurt: the realization that you are nothing special, not the "chosen" of anything. Nothing more than a human being like the rest of us.
Were that not the case you wouldnt need fifth generation fighters and tanks from the United States to protect the lands you covet.
Would not god himself send a host of heavenly angels to intercede on your behalf?
Wake the fxck up.
More real evidence for King David than Muhammad
Where do you get your misinformation? It was never the Palestinians. It might have once belonged to someone else, Jordan I believe, but not the Palestinians.
Over and over again, the Israeli's left Gaza in 2005. The land belonged to the Jews 1000 years BC.
You are totally correct.....thank you so much......
Everything that is allowed into Gaza, food, fuel, goods, is totally controlled by Israel. Hamas got money from Israel, Bibi is on vid talking about it, how good it was to divide Palestinians so Israel could control them better. I watched a video about the tunnels in Gaza, no doubt arms brought in, but predominant use was bringing in necessary foods, and other short supply stuff - similar to Warsaw ghetto. Or people took risk to get out to see family members. In West Bank, there are the Israeli illegal settlements, Palestinians forced out of their homes and new Israeli homes and roads built which only Israelis use. Their vehicles have distinctive yellow plates. The Palestinians have to use old roads and tracks, lots unsuitable for vehicles due to Israeli damage or non repair. Lets get this clear, I am for humanity. I am against crazy people, war, genocide. Has everyone forgotten BiBi offered up all Israeli people to be lab rats for Pfizer? Much death and injuries, still ongoing. He doesn't care about Israeli people either. He's carrying out globalists agenda just same as our politicians. Genocide and total eradication from the land is the objective. All but 2 countries of UN voted for ceasefire. The 2 who didn't were UK which abstained and US who was only one voting against a cease fire. They set up UN in first place, surprisingly with Nazi leaders too! Supposedly set up to prevent wars and punish those who break international laws on warfare. I'll let you guess which country has broken the rules every time! Take a step back and look at the bigger picture. Is this being done to bring about a bigger war, to coax an alleged enemy to come to aid of Palestinians? Is it another 9/11 situation to bring this about?
Why do you bend over backwards to defend the Palestinians? Everything you come up with is stretching it like a rubber band. "Divide Palestinians to control them" How did Israel control them when they built hundreds of miles of tunnels, have their own Hamas government, come up with hundreds of weapons? Food came in just fine to Gaza before Israel left in 2005 and there weren't tunnels. Maybe there are disputed Israeli settlements in West Bank, that's another discussion to argue about. What about the 10,000 Israeli's forced out of their homes in Gaza when Israel GAVE GAZA to the Palestinians? Nothing Israel did came within a light year of deserving the Oct 7 attack. It's always the Israeli's continual giving to the Palestinians. Like allowing Palestinians to come work in Israel, only to find out they were spies. Israel is the only country on earth that tries to protect civilians in war, leaflets, phone calls. They only target the military, while Hamas and the Muslims target civilian targets in Israel. War crimes, look to Hamas, Muslims, Russia, even the USA, but not Israel. You're whining about a "cease fire". There was a "cease fire", but Hamas broke it, over and over.
I am speaking out for the innocent peoples caught up in this, from both sides, old, women, children. Can you imagine Northern Ireland being raised to the ground by the British in order to get all the IRA terrorists? Only US voted against cease fire with it's partner in crime, UK abstaining. You must be the only one not seeing genocide. Plenty Jews written open letter to stop genocide and find out what really happened on 7th Oct as to who actually killed the Israelis. Most buildings wrecked by tank fire, with hostages in them, helicopters attacking music festival people fleeing. All reported by soldiers and Israeli surviving witnesses.
You want a cease fire? Then why did Hamas break the cease fire, several times?
Every. Single. One. In. History.
Israel broke the cease fire. The goal.is to depopulate Gaza and get access to the 100b barrels of oil underneath the sands
Your falsehoods are legend. The only genocide going on is that of Islam attempting to wipe all Jews off the earth. I dare you to watch the video. You don't have the guts.
https://youtu.be/sWka3LDmsIk?si=ZHHXMV770H65uy03
IDF admitting to raping women and killing hostages
https://youtu.be/YLxnhFuUlnQ?si=JxBSISaFCy4dBHLD
Haaretz debunking lies about Hamas. No decapitated newborns
https://youtu.be/R_ojjTGJz7w?si=PMostp7JXaAWr6iY
Gaza has 100b barrels under the sand and many thousands of cubic feet of off shore natural gas
1948, there were atrocities on both sides, you can't paint 2023 Israel with what happened 75 years ago. Again, why doesn't Gaza use the oil and gas? Israel isn't wiping out Hamas to get this "oil and gas", it's called self defense after Hamas brutally murdered 1200 innocent people.
How convenient pointing at 1948 as if the same rapes and brutalization aren't still occurring. Those veterans weren't under a gag order, the current IDF are
Gaza can't use the oil and gas because they are under occupation.. anything that land through traditional routes must be vetted by the occupying force.
That's why the first thing the IDF did on Oct 8 was cut off all GAZAs electricity, food and Internet access.
For you to ask that stupid question shows how heartless you have become
Now wait a minute. You say huge oil and gas deposits off of the coast of Gaza. So Israel left Gaza in 2005. Why didn't the Gazans develop the oil and gas, they had over 20 years. I think the oil and gas story is all a made up lie. When the Oct 7 attack came with the atrocities, including rape, torture, burning, of innocent people the entire world found out. If the IDF was doing the same, the entire world would find this out right away too. Hamas would be shouting from the rooftops about this, and no, we don't hear a peep. Because IDF doesn't do atrocities like Muslims.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/13/world/middleeast/chevron-israel-tamar-gas.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/12/no-power-water-or-fuel-to-gaza-until-hostages-freed-says-israeli-minister
Thats why you dont hear from HAMAS about IDF rapes. IDF cut off power and internet into Gaza on oct 11 and our media censors uncomfortable stories about the IDF
Below us the times of Israel talking about an IDF gag order
https://www.timesofisrael.com/ending-censorship-idf-admits-officer-jailed-in-2017-raped-a-palestinian-woman/
https://www.cair.com/cair_in_the_news/israeli-guards-rape-palestinian-women/#:~:text=A%20Palestinian%20female%20freed%20from,collaborate%20with%20the%20Israeli%20intelligence.
https://jordantimes.com/opinion/ramzy-baroud/untold-story-abuse-palestinian-women-hebron
They are not *Jews*, writing those letters. They are secular, leftist atheists who reject their Jewish provenance. *Innocent people* in Palestine? You mean the 90% who voted for Hamas, knowing full well of Hamas' STATED SOLE MISSION to eradicate Israel, and exterminate every Jew, not *just* those in Israel. And they still overwhelmingly support Hamas. Got that? ALL JEWS. Everywhere on the earth. USA voted 'no' to ceasefire, because Palestine has broken every single ceasefire that has been brokered---including the one that was in effect on 10/7. And that massacre of Israeli Jews was aided by *innocent Palestinians*, who accompanied the thousands of Hamas killers. Their kids are stewed in murderous Jew-hatred, from birth. And, no, no *Jewish helicopters* attacked, raped, and killed the Israelis at the Nova festival. These blood libels are revolting and make it far too easy to see how cowardly, hateful humans devolved into the same evil as the *good Germans* of the WW2-era.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2023/12/hamas-senior-official-urges-muslims-we-need-violent-acts-against-america-everywhere
https://www.israelunwired.com/this-video-won-the-case-for-israel-in-just-5-minutes/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67629181
You are SO full of crap. Where did you get this *education*? The predominant use of those tunnels was for the storage of caches of weapons and armaments and fuel. What does the placement of those tunnels tell you, hun? They were built under hospitals, schools, apartments, for what? Altruism? If that were true, they could store all that *food* in the modern, sanitary warehouses that Israel left them. To compare terrorists openly, publicly committed to the extermination of Jews, to the Warsaw ghettos is just profane. Do you really have no grasp of history? That comparison isn't even subtly nuanced, it's indecently stupid.
You also clearly have no idea of what genocide even is, or who has PUBLICLY, EXPLICITLY COMMITTED TO THE EXTERMINATION OF ALL JEWS. You are most certainly not for *humanity*. Not for Jewish *humanity*. What you wrote is abhorrently a bastardization of history and facts.
Here's a typical Palestinian mother proud of her murdering son. This is how Gazan people brainwash their children to do nothing in life except to hate.
https://youtu.be/5RIHupBWYcM?si=9YVdTye2o9z7xljc
Explain this
Explain why you think flying the flag of an enemy state publicly vocal about its goal of eradicating your country and exterminating your citizens is not punishable under aiding and abetting the enemy laws. Hamas has declared war on Israel. Your whataboutisms are typical of one who can defend his own argument.
HAMAS is not capable of making war on Israel.
Only one side is
* Occupying the other
* Raping and Brutalizing the other
* Fielding first generation weapons from America
* Nuclear arm
This isn't any where close to a fair fight. Hamas is David and Israel is Goliath
Your series of illiterate lies is so absurd as to invite nothing but laughter. Worse yet, you know you are lying. Hamas massacred well over a thousand Jew in one day. Obviously they are capable of making war, because they have, and been transparent about it. No one is occupying Gaza. That is a patently stupid claim, even on the surface. There are no Jews or Israelis in Gaza. Nor is Israel *occupying palestinian land*. Clearly you have no interest in the history of the partitioning of the region, or regard for facts. You exert a great deal of energy in verbally fellating other Jew-haters. Find another hobby.
As if Israeli don't brain wash their kids. See how the threat Hassidics that are anti zionism
Really? And are they committing acts of terror against Palestine? No analogy there at all. Just come out and admit you hate *them Joooos*.
Yes they are. On a daily basis long before Oct 7. It's only thanks to social media and the courage of Arab reporters that we get a glimpse of the violence, brutality and rapes of young women committed by the IDF..
Am neither Jew nor Arab. Which allows me an unbiased view of this event
Notice that any criticism of Israel by non Jews is labeled anti semitic even though Palestinians are semites.
But any criticism of Israel by Jews is labeled self hate.
Somehow Israel believes itself above criticism
The gall!!!
You are such a truly cowardly and unhinged liar. Please save your raucously slapstick *I can't be biased* lunacy for amateur night at the comedy club. And, hun bun, Semite refers to language, not race or nationality, of which, btw, *palestinians* are neither. The term *anti-semite* was coined in the late 1800's by a German Jew-hater whom I'm certain you are familiar with, i.e., Wilhelm Marr, who coined the word to refer to Jews, and only Jews. But you know this.
No where does it say any of them are anti Zionism
https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/watch-bone-chilling-video-captures-evil-lessons-hamas-mom-teaches-children-jews?utm_source=Truth
And that is routine throughout *palestine*. All those kids are now future jihadists.
See my video, all the way at bottom of discussion.
Thanks, I'm bookmarking to watch
https://youtu.be/5RIHupBWYcM?si=9YVdTye2o9z7xljc
This iis how Zionists treat non zionist jews
Nobody knows what started the argument.
Israel has not occupied Gaza since 2003....it protects its air space.....but Hamas has occupied the Gaza and terrorized the citizens there....then again they voted Hamas in....i guess you would love women to live under Sharia law and all people be terrorized by terrorists.....perhaps you need to look at your viewpoints because Bill is correct and his history is correct and there have been 5 attempts at a two state solution Israel willing but terrorists not willing.....Israel has delivered food to Gaza but the people have reported that the food did not go to them.....just as when the US gives money for the people of a poor nation and it never gets to the people.....this is not new.....you do not know your facts or history....
At the onset of Israels response on oct 7th the first thing they announced is that they will cut off power and internet into Gaza.
How would they be able to do that if they werent occupying that strip ?
power company and internet doesn't occupy your home, but you have it
But the IDF tanks that can enforce those rules do
Oh, for eff's sake, give it up. Israel has NEVER supplied more than 7% of Gaza's utilities. What part of history again eludes you??? Israel left Gaza with a modern, complex infrastructure, including utilities. But while we're on that subject, recall that the Gazans destroyed the pipelines that provided fresh water, dismembering them to make rocket housings to be lobbed at Israel. Israel left Gaza with ALL the capability and capacity to provide desalinated water, but because Jews are so demonically hated by these inbred buttholes, they stupidly cut their own noses off to spite their faces. And then, in characteristic fashion, whine like 7-th grade mean girls who've been spurned by their crushes.
Your *concern* for the continued wellbeing and convenience of dedicated, genocidal murders is touching. Or more accurately, you are touched.
As opposed to.the forever "victims"
https://youtu.be/5RIHupBWYcM?si=9YVdTye2o9z7xljc
After Oct 7 anyone there with a Palestinian flag should be arrested
Hide behind all the YouTubes you want, hun. You are a run-of-the-mill Jew-hater.
And you an anti Semite (Palestinians are semites too)
Sure I am, hun. Rolling my eyes at the standard Jew-haters' defense of claiming that *semite* is a race when it is a language. Arabic and Aramaic and Hebrew are semitic languages, referring to languages spoken in a broad geographic area. *Antisemitism* was coined by Jew-haters as a coy euphemism for *Jew-hatred*.
You have a different interpretation of occupy.
At the outset of the genocide on Oct 7 the IDF stated they would cut off electricity food and Internet access
How can you do that if you aren't occupying them
I didn't say Israel was occupying Gaza, though they have been since Oct 7th. I said that Israel is occupying the West Bank, and imposed an illegal blockade on Gaza in 2007 . "According to modern international law, blockades are an act of war.[2] They are illegal as part of a war of aggression[3] or when used against a civilian population".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade
Some blockade, still allowed weapons, rockets, cement, all to attack Israel
This is what Israel has to deal with, Hamas mom teaches children to kill
https://youtu.be/5RIHupBWYcM?si=9YVdTye2o9z7xljc
This is how the IDF threat Jews who don't consent to zionism
We have police brutality in the United States. Can't paint all the IDF with one guy
I could post half a dozen more such videos and youd spin each one
Because I don't believe every video on U tube. And I know the truth. Out of the Arab Muslim lands in the middle east, Israel is like 1.5% of the total. Yet the Muslims won't even allow Jews to have the 1.5%, which historically had been their home for hundreds of years. King David established Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel in 1000 B.C. That's more than 1,500 years before Muhammed was born. Another fact, the words Jerusalem or Zion appear nearly a 1000 times in the Hebrew bible and the New Testament. It never appears in the Qur'an. Why do you think Jews aren't entitled to the tiny 1.5% and Muslims are?
You know the truth right?
"Every man thinks God is on his side" isn't it?
God is not on the side of Muslims. Their Islam is a made up phony death cult. The Qur'an was put together from plagiarisms from the Bible, and Torah, and other existing texts, in Baghdad Iraq, 200 years after Muhammad. The Qur'an consists of stories of Muhammads 75 raids to attack innocent people to steal their property and lives. The Qur'an insists that the best thing any Muslim can do is wage Jihad to kill any infidels, and that Muslims who stay home and refuse to fight "are the vile animals". No wonder where ever Islam is there's misery and conflict.
How can there be any peace when people like the examples here are what we're dealing with? There is no God on their side when all they want to do is murder, rape, and steal.
https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/watch-bone-chilling-video-captures-evil-lessons-hamas-mom-teaches-children-jews?utm_source=Truth
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2023/12/nigeria-islamic-jihadis-from-cameroon-murder-over-500-people-in-several-communities#
Tell me. The Europeans who immigrate from Poland, Germany, U.S to erect Kibbutzes and use armed forces to remove and detain the individuals in land - have they any conscience: at all?
Have you ?
Israel was created by international agreement and the British. The Jews who came to settle were in the land that was Israel for them to live there. . There were few Palestinians in the land then, Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain) visited Jerusalem in those days and reported the place mostly deserted. Israel has mostly left more land to the Palestinians like Gaza, given to them in 2005, thousands of Jews were forced to leave. The West bank has mostly Arabs and Palestinians, it's governed by the Palestinian authority. Where are the "Armed Forces that removed Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza? Islamic countries consist of 98% of the land area and Israel is only 1.5%. There's plenty of land for Muslims, but they're greedy, they want 100%, 98% isn't enough, and besides wanting all the Jews to leave Israel, they want to kill them also. Look at how unfair that is. You're greedy, you want 100% of all that land, you won't even let the Jews have 1.5%, where is your conscience?
https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/watch-bone-chilling-video-captures-evil-lessons-hamas-mom-teaches-children-jews?utm_source=Truth
In the age of mass production and centralization of narratives spread around the world at the speed of light critical thinking is difficult. We need to stop thinking in stereotypes. The citizens of every country are pawns. Our villains are propped up in front of us by, wait for it…the real villains. We’re always being led around by the nose by government and rich business oligarchs. We say we know. We say we see it. We cry fake news! Yet virtually everyone falls for whatever the news tells them. The only way any of us form opinions about things that are happening is from the information we are fed. Fed and led. Fed and led…
I agree that we are being fed lies, and it is sad to see the right wing influencers, like Dr. Alexander, swallow all of the Israeli propaganda and lies. https://mellano.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/maga.jpg
@Michael G. Fons You are spreading much worse narratives and lies than Dr Alexander regarding the situations in the West Bank. Do you really honor historical facts or not? If I point out to you Palestine rejected repeatedly rejected the offer for a two-state solution, would you change your mind and rhetoric?
I predict: Fat chance.
You don’t want to know facts and history. But you gave a load of false narratives and spins about Palestine.
Ask Egypt and Jordan why they DON’T WANT Palestinians, especially the Muslim Brotherhood supporters in their countries? I predict you will ignore their answers and continue to sing your false propaganda narrative no matter what.
...and like clockwork, the KKK dude with equal parts of illiteracy, stupidity, and raw Jew-hatred, responded as exactly as predicted. Ya just almost have to laugh.
Anti Zionism != Anti Semite
Palestinians are also semites
https://youtu.be/5RIHupBWYcM?si=9YVdTye2o9z7xljc
Anti-Zionism is factually antisemitism. The first hides behind a cowardly shield. Israel is a Jewish state. Hence *anti-Zionism* is anti-Semitism. Stop hiding behind the tortured *rationale* of of *semites*.
Zionism is Racism. The belief that a group of people have been chosen to lord it over us all (Goyim/Gentile)
If you were a student of history you'd know how well that went the last time it was tried ... Not so well
The mere fact that you saw fit to make an overtly racist jab, as you did, proves you wrong. You just undermined your own *argument*.
Are you saying you disagree with Trump's assessment that Netanyahu is the one who thwarted the deal? https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1735136268109942943
Here is another link of Netanyahu saying himself that he is the one who thwarted the deal. https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1737546674619220090
The Palestinians were offered a state in 1947, '93, '95, '98, 2000, and 2008, They said no each time.
Say 'Yasser Arafat" to these people and their eyes will glaze over...
What's he say in English? It would be the height of stupidity for Israel to agree to a Palestinian state, especially after Oct 7.
That's raucously funny, considering your persistently unhinged fabrications and justifications for the pursuit of genocide of Jews.
How do you negotiate with the whole group which never recognizes the right of existence for the state of Israel? People like you lie about the situation of Palestinian statehood by covering up the fact that Palestine has been given chances of becoming an independent state 5 times since 1947. Fives times the Palestinians REJECTED the solution. Your statement above sounds exactly the same as what the evil leftists maintain. But they are lies.
Check facts and historical records, NOT your bullshits.
Has Israel recognized an independent Palestinian state according to the UN mandate?
Palestinians don't want a independent state. They want every Israeli dead, they want all of Israel. Arab Muslims occupy 98.5% of all the middle east land, but they want 100%, Why do you think it's not fair for Israel to have 1.5%
You have swallowed the Israeli lies. It has been Israel, not Palestine who has thwarted the 2-state solution for decades. Please watch this video. Norman Finkelstein explains it in detail. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4PckPdApIY Also, please watch this video of Trump explaining it as well. https://twitter.com/BellaMorne/status/1735305012488568840
You are a flat-out liar. The history of the Arabs' refusal to accept anything less than their absurdly baseless demands to *own* a region that HAD NEVER BEEN THEIRS, historically, legally, geopolitically, is public record. And they are not shy about their arrogance and greed.
Finkelstein? seriously?
What *occupation*? Palestine was never, ever a state, or nation or ethnicity. It refers to a region, as in 'Appalachia', 'Ozarks'. 'New England'. Factually, *Palestine* occupies the land that Israel was supposed to occupy, and where they bought land from the Ottomans, per the British Mandate and subsequent divisions. You are full blown *retard* in your persistence in perverting history in the service of Jew-hatred. The Arabs----what you insist, in your illiteracy, on referring to mythical *palestinians*---have rejected every single offer of a two-state solution.
Take a look at Hamas Charter!
Bullshit. Israel.has had 70 years yo create a 2 state solution as the UN mandate required (upon stolen land nonetheless).
Any cursory look at a map of that region shows who is driving who into the sea.
Then theres that 400m barallels of oil under Gaza abd itvall makes sense why Israel covets that strip so much.
"Through deception, thou shalt do war"
Stop lying. Do you never tire of being rebuked for such lazy cowardice? A *cursory look at the map" only PROVES that your claim is a lie. The only land stolen was from Israel, as a *cursory look at the map*, from 1920 onward, proves that Israel conceded to every demand, hoping for peace. The hell you looked at any map, but that from the KKK Little Golden Coloring Book for
Antisemite Dummies. They didn't have to do that. In retrospect, they were far too optimistic that a people from a cult that is literally built upon the demand for the obliteration of Jews, would ever honor their end of the deals.
@rombios Bullshit narratives. Arafat rejected the two-state solution without any counter offers. Palestine and Arab states rejected 5 times the formal offer for Palestinian State.
Palestinians turned down a "2 state solution" in 1947, '93, '95, '98, 2000, 2008. 400m barrels? Then why didn't the Gazans pump it out and use that money to improve their lives, instead of relying on the entire world and the USA to pump money into their rotten terrorist enclave?
Over and over again, as recent as 2008, they've been offered a independent state, and they say no.
This is a lie.
You cant offer an independent state with a myriad of restrictions that amount to the status quo with a new label.
Thats not how this works
Israel: "we stole your land and we have relabeled your open air prison since 2008 and you refuse to accept the new name"
There will never be a independent state, Israel knows it can't trust Palestinians ever again. No more workers either. Trust is gone completely. In fact the world knows there will never be a "Palestinian state. All the money that various countries, and Biden, $300 million to Gaza, they spent on tunnels to conduct war, weapons, rockets, instead of helping the Gazan people. The Hamas leadership, all living in luxury Apt's in Qatar, all billionaires, stole the money from the Gazans. But I wouldn't doubt that the filled with hate, and brainwashed Gazans wouldn't vote for hamas again.
One of your basic premises here is false. WWII, for example, ended with the unconditional surrender of both Germany and Japan to the Western allies. Most wars in history end this way. Certainly not “negotiation”.
"This won't end until they love their own children more than they hate us."
-- Golda Meir
Sorry, but wars do not end with negotiation. Wars end when one side can no longer wage war or has lost the willingness to wage war. Or to put it bluntly, wars end when one side has had its sockets knocked off. Negotiated “ends” to wars give us the unended Korean War and the never ending cycle of negotiated cease fires and violations of same in the Middle East. If you want the war between Israel and Hamas to end, you leave them to beat the shit out of each other until only one is left standing. Then the war, as horrible is it is ends. This prolonging the hell of war through generations is probably the single worst idea man has ever come up with.
Both about as real as Santa Klaus and the Easter bunny.
But you are too stupid and too wedded in your group-think to realize that
https://youtu.be/5RIHupBWYcM?si=9YVdTye2o9z7xljc
'Mouse fever outbreak' is 'mowing down frontline Russian troops, with symptoms ranging from vomiting to bleeding eyes' immidiately checking into this story! Drop everything else now! IN DAILY MAIL THEY were soo in the corner they let ykraine unleash a biological weapon on the Russian troops! They did it!! They unleashed probably through a signal the memorizing fever like illness. I KNOW THIS AINT FROM A LITTLE MOUSE JUST IN THE RUSSIANS! AND THEY GLOAT. THEY DID IT CALLING THEM RUSSIAN RATS DYING FROM MOUSE FEVER. AIBT THEY CLEVER. WAIT FOR MORE YERRIBLE WEAPONS UNLEASHED ALSO IN PAKISTAN ABD WHI KNOWS WHERE!! I AM SICK TO MY STOMACH!
Hemorraging like illness- listen to killed dr. Rashid butter! NOW YOU KNOW WHY HE WAS KILLED. HE EXPOSED THE WEAPONSSYSTEM THRY HAVE FOR WW3.
Buttar, I hate the spellchecker
any link??
I am upset because the Russians def. Will think this is an attack ( which it also is) and we can only expect some counterattack with a biological weapon possibly on the usa.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12885495/Mouse-fever-outbreak-mowing-frontline-Russian-troops-Ukraine.html
Uh oh. Blaming a rodent this time (there is no pangolin to blame it on there...). But it does appear legit: leptospirosis from the rats. Could it be something else? Also, any article on Buttar's cause of death?
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/300886404/prominent-antivax-doctor-with-new-zealand-links-dies-after-claiming-he-was-poisoned.
That's what i found. He was unjabbed but got myocardities after he said he got poisoned.
Btw shedding is now said to be real but as you can see in May it still wasn't 'real'. This whole thing is a weaponssystem developed for ww3. First it gets used in combat and then on any citizen 'enemy sympathizers'. For the weapon to work a few factors have to be activated as a binary (or higher) weapon as Mike Adam's many years ( before covid) ago already explained.
I was listening to Jonathan Otto's interview with B. Ardis and H. Ealy. Interesting how this thing is transmittable. through bacteria and yeast, then 5G and blue light come into play to make sure the "spike" gets past the cell membrane. Bingo.
https://www.israelunwired.com/this-video-won-the-case-for-israel-in-just-5-minutes/